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Format War - HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray - *Its Over...Toshiba Swings White Flag*


#1111 guyver2077   CAG Original CAGiversary!   16088 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:08 PM

obviously its gonna be weinstein reaffirming their HD DVD exclusitivity



yay... here comes the motherload

#1112 rsigley   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1218 Posts   Joined 16.5 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:09 PM

toshiba, universal, and paramount will all come out and rip off their hd dvd shirts to reveal blu ray shirts and say it was a set up all along to ruin microsoft

nWo theme music will play and the crowd will be left speechless because it makes no sense

just like what happened once a month on nitro

#1113 H.Cornerstone   LaserCannonDethSentence CAGiversary!   2154 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:09 PM

BTW, Anyone have any inkling how this effects New Line? Warners Bros is New Line "sister" company.

And what CAN HD-DVD do?

#1114 Sarang01   My Use Name Is Saber CAGiversary!   5588 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:09 PM

obviously its gonna be weinstein reaffirming their HD DVD exclusitivity


I know you might be joking but if we get the entire Dragon Dynasty with Lossless sound and quality video I WILL buy them.

#1115 rodeojones903   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6366 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:10 PM

I'm pretty sure we all saw this coming. Too many manufactures support Blu-ray for HD DVD to prevail.

Very good news. Fuck MS for trying to ruin physical media formats.

#1116 guyver2077   CAG Original CAGiversary!   16088 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:11 PM

toshiba, universal, and paramount will all come out and rip off their hd dvd shirts to reveal blu ray shirts and say it was a set up all along to ruin microsoft

nWo theme music will play and the crowd will be left speechless because it makes no sense

just like what happened once a month on nitro


lmao

#1117 DestroVega   Life is short... stunt it CAGiversary!   7191 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:12 PM

I support both, but it's interesting to note, out of my 19 HD-DVDs I currently own, 15 are from WB's... that's pretty staggering now that they have bowed out.

#1118 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 16.1 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:12 PM

toshiba, universal, and paramount will all come out and rip off their hd dvd shirts to reveal blu ray shirts and say it was a set up all along to ruin microsoft

nWo theme music will play and the crowd will be left speechless because it makes no sense

just like what happened once a month on nitro


:lol:

As long as David Arquette doesn't get involved.

#1119 coolbho3000   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   22 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:13 PM

I won't believe it even if it does make sense! ;)

Anyways, I just have to post this:

This was a triumph
I’m making a note here: huge success
It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction
Blu-ray Disc Association
We do what we must because we can
For the good of all of us
Except the ones who are dead
But there’s no sense crying over every mistake
You just keep on trying till you run out of investors
And the science gets done and you make a neat format
For the people who are still alive
I’m not even angry
I’m being so sincere right now
Even though you broke my heart and killed me
And tore me to pieces
And threw every piece into a fire
As they burned it hurt because
I was so happy for you
Now these points of data make a beautiful line
And we’re out of profile 1.0, we’re releasing on time
So I’m glad I got burned, think of all the things we learned
For the people who are still alive
Go ahead and leave me
I think I’d prefer to stay inside
Maybe you’ll find someone else to help you
Maybe HD-DVD Association
That was a joke, ha ha, fat chance
Anyway this studio support is great
It’s so delicious and moist
Look at me still talking when there’s science to do
When I look out there it makes me glad I’m not you
I’ve experiments to run, there is research to be done
On the people who are still alive
And believe me I am still alive
I’m doing science and I’m still alive
I feel fantastic and I’m still alive
Until 2160p, I'll be still alive
Still alive
Still alive

MAJOR EDIT!

#1120 tiredfornow   Banned Banned   35417 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:15 PM

Yikes.

:lol:

As long as David Arquette doesn't get involved.


Or Carl Malone.

#1121 millrat1030   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   171 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:15 PM

I can't wait for CES next week. This war has once again hit a new high. I agree with every one that this war sucks, we need just one format. However, I love the plot twists and turn arounds. It truly is like pro wrestling. HA HA.

#1122 Sporadic   done with this site CAGiversary!   9499 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:16 PM

lol this chicken little stuff is funny

I still stand completely firm about what I said a few months ago.

You can't discount them but out of all the companies releasing HDM Warner and Universal are the top two companies in terms of quantity of releases, and if either format lost Warner, it would be a massive (not death) blow.


http://www.cheapassg...ner#post3560628

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Now I'm really curious of what to expect for CES...Will HD DVD raise the white flag or do they have something up their sleeve that we don't know about to fight this?


Until Universal bows out, there will be no white flag or anything. I think people forget just how many movies/blockbusters Paramount/Dreamworks has and they are locked in for at least 18 months.

#1123 anomynous   Banned Banned   5192 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:17 PM

BTW, Anyone have any inkling how this effects New Line? Warners Bros is New Line "sister" company

And what CAN HD-DVD do?

it won't because they might as well have been Blu only.

#1124 RyanFrost   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   161 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:17 PM

Oh, wow. That was faster than I expected. HD-DVD really has no chance now does it?

The future is indeed Blu. :lol:

#1125 dpatel   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3749 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:18 PM

Well I'm glad a side sooner, rather than later. With combo players possibly coming around the corner, I was afraid the war would've never ended. Should be interesting to see what HD-DVD does at CES, though. Hopefully not a whole lot, because, I am glad that the war may finally be coming to an end.

#1126 Stryffe2004   Overlord of the Obvious CAGiversary!   1090 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:23 PM

I don't care that much since I am deeply supporting both and will continue to do so. I do think that HD-DVD has a better product and I do have a few more HD-DVDs compared to my Blu-Rays. What Universal has done with U-Control is pretty sweet. Smokin Aces, Bourne Ultimatum and The Kingdom have U-Control "stuff" that far exceeds anything on Blu-Ray.

Ahh well, looks like I will be grabbing The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray.

#1127 dafunkk12   Coconut Monkey CAGiversary!   1659 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:24 PM

Fortunately I picked up a cheap PS3 and became format neutral. It's kind of odd though how Warner tended to favor HD with some timed exclusives (Batman, Matrix), plus screwing up many different BD titles recently. I have to wonder just how much of a role the Blu-favoring sister company New Line had to do with this. Of course, people can point to the disc sales numbers, and I guess that does mean something.

Ideally, I favor red because they had their technology package together since day one. Both of them are upgradable, though, so now blue is catching up, plus they have capacity on their side. Of course Blu's non-finalized specs sure screwed early adopters, just like how HD early adopters may get screwed with potentially upcoming higher capacity discs.

#1128 Sarang01   My Use Name Is Saber CAGiversary!   5588 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:24 PM

Well I'm glad a side sooner, rather than later. With combo players possibly coming around the corner, I was afraid the war would've never ended. Should be interesting to see what HD-DVD does at CES, though. Hopefully not a whole lot, because, I am glad that the war may finally be coming to an end.


Personally I think it would be funny if Blu got all the world but China. I mean getting that market alone would cause it stay around regardless. Maybe they wouldn't still release here but it wouldn't die by any means.
D are you EVER going to get a 360?! I need more people on my friends list who like JAPANESE developed games and don't obssessively drool over FPS's, especially Halo. I mean I'm excited about "Culdcept Saga" coming because then I can put some more Japanese on my friends lists who are more likely to like the games I do.

#1129 dpatel   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3749 Posts   Joined 16.6 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:26 PM

Personally I think it would be funny if Blu got all the world but China. I mean getting that market alone would cause it stay around regardless. Maybe they wouldn't still release here but it wouldn't die by any means.
D are you EVER going to get a 360?! I need more people on my friends list who like JAPANESE developed games and don't obssessively drool over FPS's, especially Halo. I mean I'm excited about "Culdcept Saga" coming because then I can put some more Japanese on my friends lists who are more likely to like the games I do.


Eh, probably not anytime soon. Wish I had the time and money to invest in more than one console. Really bummed about missing out on Culdcept Saga though. Are they ever gonna release that in the US? I know it's been out in Japan for months now.

#1130 KAR10   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   165 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:28 PM

This is the end of HD DVD.

The main reason HD DVD was in competition is because of Warner.

I supported HD DVD until now. I guess I'll follow Warner to BLUE RAY.

It has to end I'm tired of the format war.

#1131 H.Cornerstone   LaserCannonDethSentence CAGiversary!   2154 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:28 PM

Maybe this means we will finally get Star Wars on Blu-ray. :drool:

#1132 ITDEFX   My foot itches..must be athlete's foot CAGiversary!   17267 Posts   Joined 16.1 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:30 PM

Weak...that hurts...I'll stay with HD DVD as long as it takes but if it dies, I might have to give up on HDM for a long while and just rent movies from XBOX Live Marketplace.

...Tis a sad day :cry:



Holy Fuck... I really can't believe this. If only Microsoft got off their lazy asses and just put an HD-DVD drive into the 360, it would have helped us out a lot. Now that Warner has taken the Blue ray side, that only leaves a hand full of studios holding out...but it doesn't matter anymore. :( I was so looking forward to Star Trek on HD-DVD format, but I am pretty sure that Paramount is going over to Blue Ray so they don't look left out. This also means I will probably be buying a PS3 this year just for a decent blue ray player. And I just bought the add on drive for the 360 nearly 3 months ago (and within a month I will have 5 more HD-DVD's from that offer :( ) bah.

#1133 anomynous   Banned Banned   5192 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:31 PM

Maybe this means we will finally get Star Wars on Blu-ray. :drool:

maybe in 2011

#1134 Thirtyfour   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   30 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:31 PM

toshiba, universal, and paramount will all come out and rip off their hd dvd shirts to reveal blu ray shirts and say it was a set up all along to ruin microsoft

nWo theme music will play and the crowd will be left speechless because it makes no sense

just like what happened once a month on nitro


:rofl:

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#1135 Sporadic   done with this site CAGiversary!   9499 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:32 PM

Holy Fuck... I really can't believe this. If only Microsoft got off their lazy asses and just put an HD-DVD drive into the 360, it would have helped us out a lot. Now that Warner has taken the Blue ray side, that only leaves a hand full of studios holding out...but it doesn't matter anymore. :( I was so looking forward to Star Trek on HD-DVD format, but I am pretty sure that Paramount is going over to Blue Ray so they don't look left out. This also means I will probably be buying a PS3 this year just for a decent blue ray player. And I just bought the add on drive for the 360 nearly 3 months ago (and within a month I will have 5 more HD-DVD's from that offer :( ) bah.


They have a contract and can't leave until it's up (which is some time in 12 months)

#1136 JokerCard   Go,go Gadget Cheapskates! CAGiversary!   1755 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:33 PM

Whew....glad this war is coming to an end.....

Now we can finally see WB utilize the potential of the Blu-ray discs

#1137 H.Cornerstone   LaserCannonDethSentence CAGiversary!   2154 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:35 PM

BTW, this announcement has crashed HDD and AVSforums. :)

#1138 ITDEFX   My foot itches..must be athlete's foot CAGiversary!   17267 Posts   Joined 16.1 Years Ago  

Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:35 PM

Maybe this means we will finally get Star Wars on Blu-ray. :drool:



20th century fox has distribution rights but needs the ok from Lucasfilm/Lucas and if I remember correctly they wanted to make sure that blue ray had the proper encryption/protection before they released it in that medium. Bullshit I say.

I am very surprised they did give it to us last year for the 30th anniversary. That would have tipped this war into blue rays favor so big that they would have won by a land slide.

#1139 H.Cornerstone   LaserCannonDethSentence CAGiversary!   2154 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:38 PM

20th century fox has distribution rights but needs the ok from Lucasfilm/Lucas and if I remember correctly they wanted to make sure that blue ray had the proper encryption/protection before they released it in that medium. Bullshit I say.

I am very surprised they did give it to us last year for the 30th anniversary. That would have tipped this war into blue rays favor so big that they would have won by a land slide.


IIRC I thought it was because Lucas said he didn't want it out until the war was decided?

#1140 APreciousDragon   The cake is a lie! CAGiversary!   781 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:39 PM

I still love my HD player and will get new movies through May (and possibly some really good "close out" deals as the format dies.

Besides that, it has worked as an amazing upconverter. I don't think I'm going to swap to Blu though. I think I'm going to look into this new Netflix direct to TV thing and start renting my movies more than buying them. Regular DVD is going to be around for quite a while I think!

I think I am going to hit up the BB deal before they sell out of the good HD's. I still really want HP 3 & 4 and the Matrix Trilogy!

I am sad that both formats will no longer be competing though (and therefore BOGO will be scarce).