The Tragical History of Doctor Mana Knightus (Banned Users Thread)

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Let me preface this thread with a simple request: please do not send this thread to the gulag like its predecessor. And if you do, at least tell me why my threads/posts have been getting removed of late.

Anyway, inspired by Mana Knight's banning, I am once again asking for a "Banned User Thread". Other forums have used them. Whenever a Mod bans a user, they post in the thread saying who was banned, why they were banned, and how long the ban will last. They don't have to get into too many details on the "why" bit - a simple "Trolling the Vs forum" or "Reincarnation of previously banned user" will suffice. As it is, us peons are totally in the dark. Maybe someone will ask why and for how long X was banned in the OTT or something, maybe a Mod will see it, maybe this Mod will know, maybe this knowledgeable Mod will respond, and maybe a tiny fraction of CAG will see the response.

The last thread lasted anywhere between 2 and 24 hours. Let's see how long this one stays up.
 
It's not feasible for a mod to simply post "The Mana Knight - Harassed people" (not true, I'm just making that up as an example) everytime they ban someone? It takes a total of 30 seconds.

Also, I might as well post it here, but if what I hear about his banning is true then it's bullshit. Permanantly banned without even a warning for being a "fanboy." Well then there's plenty of mods that need to be banned if we're banning for fanboyism now.
 
Banning for fanboyism is the new hip thing.
Good thing ima cheap whore.

Cheapy
You dont have to start from the beginning, just start a new running tally.
2000 banned users is not that much for being around for as long as CAG has.

It would be like what one post a day.
 
If he was banned for fanboyism that was pretty unfair IMO. There are others that are worse, Mana didn't really attack the other systems, he mainly defended Sony while there are others who do a lot worse a lot more.

Maybe just telling him "stop with the 2 page posts" would have been good enough.
 
I would also like to know why TMK got banned.

I like the idea presented, and going back into the history of banned users isn't necessary. Just start from the day the thread starts.
 
[quote name='Rocko']I would also like to know why TMK got banned.

I like the idea presented, and going back into the history of banned users isn't necessary. Just start from the day the thread starts.[/quote]

I agree with this statement.
 
I ain't afaid to say that I gave TMK the boot. I banned him because I just became fed up with his crap and his fanboyism. Let me be frank, his fanboyism is completely on a different level than most other people. The common comparison has been between Linkin and TMK lately, but that is completely unfair. Linkin doesn't run around bashing systems and trying to start flame wars and arguments based on what system that they liked.

Also I am probably the only mod who actually goes through and reads the PS3 board on a daily basis. After a while, TMK just grates on you with his posts and his constant quest to start flame wars. For the betterment of CAG I felt he had to go.
 
Permanently? You couldn't make it temporary? That's extremely unnecessary to give him a permanent ban out of nowhere. May as well start temp banning half of the boards for fanboyism now. Hell, we don't even need a Wii forum.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Let me preface this thread with a simple request: please do not send this thread to the gulag like its predecessor. And if you do, at least tell me why my threads/posts have been getting removed of late.[/quote] I'm also curious as to why your previous thread was deleted. It only mentioned TMK as the reason for creating the thread, and was much like your original post in this thread. Only a suggestion for a new feature on CAG, and you reasons for suggesting it.

I'd hate to think making suggestions for CAG is being discouraged now. The original thread really shouldn' t have been deleted.

Thank you for having the courage to recreate it in the form of this thread.

Edit: Also, talking about issues like these as a community is a good thing, because we are all in fact, a community.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I ain't afaid to say that I gave TMK the boot. I banned him because I just became fed up with his crap and his fanboyism. Let me be frank, his fanboyism is completely on a different level than most other people. The common comparison has been between Linkin and TMK lately, but that is completely unfair. Linkin doesn't run around bashing systems and trying to start flame wars and arguments based on what system that they liked.

Also I am probably the only mod who actually goes through and reads the PS3 board on a daily basis. After a while, TMK just grates on you with his posts and his constant quest to start flame wars. For the betterment of CAG I felt he had to go.[/quote]

I agree with this as well, although I didn't think TMK deserved a boot, I don't think Linkin deserved all of the "Demod him!" statements that he got. However I am glad that finally somebody stepped up and gave an honest answer.
 
Was he ever given a warning from a mod? There was no way you could have suspended his account for a couple days?

Also I've rarely seen him attack anything or anyone. He may make statements like his 360 is too loud, but he's never said anything I would consider an attack. Certainly nothing so bad as to ban him outright with no warning whatsoever. Hell, for the past couple weeks he's been talking about how he really wants a Wii.
 
[quote name='Rocko']Permanently? You couldn't make it temporary? That's extremely unnecessary to give him a permanent ban out of nowhere. May as well start temp banning half of the boards for fanboyism now. Hell, we don't even need a Wii forum.[/quote]

It wasn't out of nowhere. He had been warned by plenty of mods in the past. He can cry and say whatever he wants to TFN on AIM, but it wasn't out of nowhere. I don't get why this is such a big deal. He was a troll who derailed every thread he posted in. CAG is better without him.
 
[quote name='InuFaye']
You dont have to start from the beginning, just start a new running tally.
2000 banned users is not that much for being around for as long as CAG has.
[/quote]Gotcha. I'll think about it.
 
Seriously what would a warning have done? It would have probably put TMK in his place for a week or two then he would be back to his usual fanboy self.
 
The fact is there are worse posters than TMK that should be banned way before he was.

TMK was more of a Sony defender as I said before, I didn't see many times where he started the argument, others usually said something to get him all riled up, I didn't see many cases where he just started ranting out of nowhere.
 
[quote name='Trakan']It wasn't out of nowhere. He had been warned by plenty of mods in the past. He can cry and say whatever he wants to TFN on AIM, but it wasn't out of nowhere. I don't get why this is such a big deal. He was a troll who derailed every thread he posted in. CAG is better without him.[/QUOTE]
Truth.
 
[quote name='whoknows']The fact is there are worse posters than TMK that should be banned way before he was.

TMK was more of a Sony defender as I said before, I didn't see many times where he started the argument, others usually said something to get him all riled up, I didn't see many cases where he just started ranting out of nowhere.[/quote]

I agree. People pushed his buttons.
 
While I agree the guy could get out of control with the fanboyism sometimes, and it could get down right irritating, he was all in all harmless, and was good for a laugh sometimes.
 
awww, TMK was banned... thats too bad. sure he was a fanboy, but i dont think he was that bad, or any worse than the other fanboys on the forum.
 
Sure he was a fanboy but I don't recall him outright bashing 360 or Wii etc. In fact didn't he own them or something? He was annoying at times but being banned for being a fanboy is kind of extreme.
 
If the mods want to "make a difference," I would much rather see more aggressive banning for those who advocate or brag about de-frauding stores.

(I'd love to see the hoarders slapped down as well, but I know I am dreaming on this one.)
 
[quote name='soonersfan60']If the mods want to "make a difference," I would much rather see more aggressive banning for those who advocate or brag about de-frauding stores.

(I'd love to see the hoarders slapped down as well, but I know I am dreaming on this one.)[/quote]
Here, here. Hoarding for profit is definitely against the spirit of CAG, and most of the people who brag about it are probably just here for those opportunities, thus preventing actual gamers from getting in on deals.

While I wasn't in the PS3 thread enough to know the degree to which TMK stirred the shitpot, I always thought he was at least courteous. I never saw him resort to name calling or any general immaturity, no matter how outlandish or absurd some of the things he had to say were. Of course, I didn't read a lot of his posts, so this very well could have been an issue.

And really, his OTT's were effin hilarious, even if it was because they were kind of pitiful. I'll kinda miss him. At the same time, I mostly trust the mods to use good discretion when taking action, because this is usually such a good community to begin with.

Oh, nnd Casey, thanks for giving an answer as to why he was banned.
 
I agree with the banning of TMK. I think honestly it might be better for him anyway.

Kid needs to get off the goddamn computer and leave the house.
 
As far as the workload required for a "banned user" thread, Cheapy, I'm sure everyone would agree it's only necessary for people who are actually a part of the community. Those banned within two posts of their joining aren't really a concern of most.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Fanboyism? Extreme fanboyism, sure, but come on. He was entertaining. Hardly anything banworthy.[/QUOTE]


maybe if the threads you frequent aren't plagued by him it's entertaining. I'm sick of epic flame wars revolving around him on every other page of the general gaming thread.



also, a banned user report doesn't seem necessary. most bannings are for spammers. otherwise, mods usually tell us why a particular person has been banned.
 
I don't agree with the banning. Alot of the threads, at least lately, TMK was provoked because we all knew TMK would come back with something entertaining. I think he was virtually harmless, but I don't know, maybe he did come into threads derailing without reason. Anyone have any links for examples?
I do, however, agree with a thread going forward with a list of bans. It's a good idea!
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Like a car crash, people just want to rubberneck and see all the gory carnage.[/QUOTE]

A bad analogy, since that seems to describe the vibe of most threads that delved into a hyrbid of console war/TMK bashing.

The guy was a whack job or (I don't buy it) joke account, and he brought his fair share of attention his way. No doubt. After awhile, people became reactionary towards anything he said, though.

I don't think CAG is a worse place without him, but truth be told, I'd like to see mods locking/deleting posts before they get out of hand. This way, we could see folks like GizmoGC stop threadcrapping in the PS3 forumd, we wouldn't have had TMK be a virtual emotional trainwreck to entertain us all, and we'd see less of the crassness and topic deviation that CAG threads more often than not become.

I do, of course, realize my own participation in that...but that doesn't mean it's a bad suggestion.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']A bad analogy, since that seems to describe the vibe of most threads that delved into a hyrbid of console war/TMK bashing.

The guy was a whack job or (I don't buy it) joke account, and he brought his fair share of attention his way. No doubt. After awhile, people became reactionary towards anything he said, though.

I don't think CAG is a worse place without him, but truth be told, I'd like to see mods locking/deleting posts before they get out of hand. This way, we could see folks like GizmoGC stop threadcrapping in the PS3 forumd, we wouldn't have had TMK be a virtual emotional trainwreck to entertain us all, and we'd see less of the crassness and topic deviation that CAG threads more often than not become.

I do, of course, realize my own participation in that...but that doesn't mean it's a bad suggestion.[/QUOTE]
Is it such a bad analogy? TMK's banning really isn't anybody's business and I don't see why an explanation should be owed to anyone as to why, IMHO.
 
The Mana Knight was banned? I never saw him post anything ban-worthy. Never. He was generally pretty defensive about Sony, but not to the degree that everyone (including himself) claimed. If there were comparisons between him and LinkinPrime, I have to say that I find the latter much more annoying, and I was quite shocked (and annoyed) when he became a mod.

But seriously, he needs to be unbanned. People here get banned for crap that isn't ban-worthy, and it's pretty fucking stupid.

Oh, and this thread is a good idea.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Is it such a bad analogy? TMK's banning really isn't anybody's business and I don't see why an explanation should be owed to anyone as to why, IMHO.[/QUOTE]

It's a bad analogy in the sense that the "car wreck" mentality applied to threads he started/posted in rather frequently, so it's not so much the banning that has drawn people's attention as it is who was banned.

Is it the business of other folks? Perhaps. I'm not here to argue that, though.

People don't care when John-Boy gets banned after flooding the deals forum with "free Xbox 360 Elite!" threads. As a "community," though, some may care (i.e., have interest) in why TMK was banned (whether why now as opposed to before, or why at all).
 
no....no TMK?? :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

I haven't really gone through all the forums, but from what I saw of TMK he would inform the masses, advertise Sony's greatness or get provoked intosuper defense mode (as previously mentioned). Even when he was provoked i never saw any F-:bomb:s or personal attacks..there was one instance where he MAY have but by time I got to the forum he had already edited his post and apologized....

Oh TMK, you were loyal to the bitter end


P.S. Buy a :ps3:
 
I think people are just feeling bad because of his social threads where he got crapped on but received some sympathy at the same time. Its like if you took Dwight out of the cast of the Office. I'd like to know if/how he violated the TOS, banning for his extreme opinion seems unjust. I don't look in the PS3 forums often so I'm probably not a victim to his terrorism.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I'd like to know if/how he violated the TOS, banning for his extreme opinion seems unjust. I don't look in the PS3 forums often so I'm probably not a victim to his terrorism.[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='mykevermin']It's a bad analogy in the sense that the "car wreck" mentality applied to threads he started/posted in rather frequently, so it's not so much the banning that has drawn people's attention as it is who was banned.

Is it the business of other folks? Perhaps. I'm not here to argue that, though.

People don't care when John-Boy gets banned after flooding the deals forum with "free Xbox 360 Elite!" threads. As a "community," though, some may care (i.e., have interest) in why TMK was banned (whether why now as opposed to before, or why at all).[/quote]
Definitely in agreement, particularly the last paragraph. When a "regular" or long-time member gets banned it's not asking too much to know the reason. For example, Punk_Raven was recently banned. I'd like to know why since I've never seen a post of his that would indicate he needs to be banned. The fact the first thread was not just locked but deleted was pretty weak. It was a fair discussion that should have stayed open. As far as TMK goes, a temp ban? Maybe. I don't know, I didn't see the offending posts. Permaban? If it was just for fanboyism, even rampant fanboyism, sorry but that seems extreme. I have to disagree with you on that one, Casey.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Punk_Raven asked to be permabanned because he was a :baby:, neocisco.[/quote]

He actually asked to be banned or are you editorializing?
 
[quote name='neocisco']He actually asked to be banned or are you editorializing?[/QUOTE]
He actually asked to be banned because he is actually is a crybaby.
 
[quote name='neocisco']He actually asked to be banned or are you editorializing?[/quote]

He really did ask. Dude's been going off the deep end in the OTT for weeks.

[quote name='Liquid 2']There ya go.[/quote]

That covers just about 90% of the users on this site, I'd say.
 
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