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#4891 poison_SHADOW   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   508 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

poison_SHADOW

Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:20 AM

Yeah, it's interesting how WB animation isn't doing entirely original stuff anymore... yet they aren't doing direct adaptations either. I loved Under the Red Hood and Flashpoint Paradox, though I've hard both were quite different compared to the comics. Justice League: War is based on the first six issues of the N52 JL, but they've removed Aquaman in favor of Shazam. Son of Batman uses the basic concept, but like you said, seems completely different as well. 

 

I've very curious about the movie after Son of Batman, because it was stated to be set in the same universe as the Arkham games. I just can't help but wonder if it'll be another adaptation or a new story that actually ties in with the games. It'd be great to see something entirely original again... although now that I think about it, there's a chance that it could even be based on the Arkham Unhinged tie-in comics.



#4892 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:05 AM

All-Star Superman (for the most part), Batman: Year One and to my understanding, Dark Knight Returns (only one that I've read, but haven't seen), all seem to remain faithful to the source material. I Think there's still direct adaptations, but I think Batman & Son kinda had to go the "super loosely based" route only because there's still a good amount of characters in the story that they couldn't fit in and just ends in such a way that I don't think they're ready to commit to the whole Batman-Morrison saga. At least that's what I'm assuming. Though I figure Aquaman was removed only to spotlight Shazam a bit more in Justice League: War, since Aquaman will have his own animated feature according to New York Comic Con last year.

 

As for the Arkham animated film, my bet is on just a retelling of the first game as not to confuse people or having to bring up much backstory.



#4893 poison_SHADOW   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   508 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 10:32 AM

All-Star Superman (for the most part), Batman: Year One and to my understanding, Dark Knight Returns (only one that I've read, but haven't seen), all seem to remain faithful to the source material. I Think there's still direct adaptations, but I think Batman & Son kinda had to go the "super loosely based" route only because there's still a good amount of characters in the story that they couldn't fit in and just ends in such a way that I don't think they're ready to commit to the whole Batman-Morrison saga. At least that's what I'm assuming. Though I figure Aquaman was removed only to spotlight Shazam a bit more in Justice League: War, since Aquaman will have his own animated feature according to New York Comic Con last year.

 

As for the Arkham animated film, my bet is on just a retelling of the first game as not to confuse people or having to bring up much backstory.

Yeah, All-Star Superman was pretty much just a very condensed form of the comic version right? Or so I've heard. I'm the opposite of you with DKR - watched the movie, haven't read it completely. I do know that they removed all of Batman's internal monologues. It makes a few scenes (like the "this is a good death..." race car scene) seem a little more random without them, but I loved it regardless.

 

I'm shocked that they're giving Aquaman his own animated movie. I guess they got over their fear of doing non-Batman/Superman/JL movies. Hopefully it sells well enough to warrant other solo animated projects, although honestly my greatest wish is that they would release a Young Justice movie to properly end the series. I'm sure they could rework it so that knowing all of the history isn't NECESSARY. I'm just dying to see The Team work with the Justice League to take down Darkseid and The Light/Vandal Savage.

 

And I'd actually be cool with the Arkham project being a retelling of the first game... as long as they don't make any bad choices with the casting. I really don't like the guy they've hired to play Batman in Flashpoint Paradox, War, and now Son of Batman. Ideally they'd get Conroy, Hamill and everyone else back.     



#4894 Sir_Fragalot   wants Startropics 3. CAGiversary!   8713 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

Started reading East of West. That comic is fantastic. It's hard to really describe the comic without ruining any plot points but it follows the four horsemen after pretty much in a post apocalyptic world. Death from the four horseman is pretty much a badass cowboy.

 

My goals this year is to collect all of Manhattan Projects, Mind Mgmt and if possible all of Saga. It's crazy how much Saga goes for now. Saga #1 goes for more than #1 of Fables on ebay which is insane (I own all of fables too).



#4895 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:58 AM

Yeah, All-Star Superman was pretty much just a very condensed form of the comic version right? Or so I've heard. I'm the opposite of you with DKR - watched the movie, haven't read it completely. I do know that they removed all of Batman's internal monologues. It makes a few scenes (like the "this is a good death..." race car scene) seem a little more random without them, but I loved it regardless.

 

I'm shocked that they're giving Aquaman his own animated movie. I guess they got over their fear of doing non-Batman/Superman/JL movies. Hopefully it sells well enough to warrant other solo animated projects, although honestly my greatest wish is that they would release a Young Justice movie to properly end the series. I'm sure they could rework it so that knowing all of the history isn't NECESSARY. I'm just dying to see The Team work with the Justice League to take down Darkseid and The Light/Vandal Savage.

 

And I'd actually be cool with the Arkham project being a retelling of the first game... as long as they don't make any bad choices with the casting. I really don't like the guy they've hired to play Batman in Flashpoint Paradox, War, and now Son of Batman. Ideally they'd get Conroy, Hamill and everyone else back.     

Yeah, All-Star Supes just basically took all the non Lois and Luthor related storylines (Bizzaro and Jimmy Olsen) and just focused on the rest of the comic, but changed some dialouge and scenes in the last 10 minutes, but still overall was just a condensed version of the series.

 

Plus I wouldn't mind a continuation of Young Justice, though I'd also like the seasons to be on goddamn blu ray. In anycase, the Aquaman movie seems to be the only one that's been confirmed. The rest of the ones rumored or hinted at from cons last year include Sinestro Corps, Green Arrow and Superman: Red Son.

 

I Think Conroy for Arkham Asylum animated makes sense, since he was the voice, but Hamill...eh. Hamill has stated that he's retiring from being the Joker unless they do The Killing Joke as an animated movie (which would blow my goddamn mind if they did it page for page), though Bruce Timm has stated that's one of the one's he wants to do and after Dark Knight Returns there isn't much in the way of stopping it. So that's only way we'll hear definitive Joker again.

 

Started reading East of West. That comic is fantastic. It's hard to really describe the comic without ruining any plot points but it follows the four horsemen after pretty much in a post apocalyptic world. Death from the four horseman is pretty much a badass cowboy.

 

My goals this year is to collect all of Manhattan Projects, Mind Mgmt and if possible all of Saga. It's crazy how much Saga goes for now. Saga #1 goes for more than #1 of Fables on ebay which is insane (I own all of fables too).

It's always a weird nice feeling when I know my comics are worth money despite me possibly never selling them. Though yeah, East of West is awesome. I Think I enjoy Hickman's Image stuff more than his Marvel stuff, it's too bad he didn't have more of a hand in writing God is Dead because it had potential, but goddamn you can tell he just gave the writer a concept and didn't do much else.



#4896 poison_SHADOW   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   508 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 02:46 AM

Yeah, All-Star Supes just basically took all the non Lois and Luthor related storylines (Bizzaro and Jimmy Olsen) and just focused on the rest of the comic, but changed some dialouge and scenes in the last 10 minutes, but still overall was just a condensed version of the series.

 

Plus I wouldn't mind a continuation of Young Justice, though I'd also like the seasons to be on goddamn blu ray. In anycase, the Aquaman movie seems to be the only one that's been confirmed. The rest of the ones rumored or hinted at from cons last year include Sinestro Corps, Green Arrow and Superman: Red Son.

 

I Think Conroy for Arkham Asylum animated makes sense, since he was the voice, but Hamill...eh. Hamill has stated that he's retiring from being the Joker unless they do The Killing Joke as an animated movie (which would blow my goddamn mind if they did it page for page), though Bruce Timm has stated that's one of the one's he wants to do and after Dark Knight Returns there isn't much in the way of stopping it. So that's only way we'll hear definitive Joker again.

 

It's always a weird nice feeling when I know my comics are worth money despite me possibly never selling them. Though yeah, East of West is awesome. I Think I enjoy Hickman's Image stuff more than his Marvel stuff, it's too bad he didn't have more of a hand in writing God is Dead because it had potential, but goddamn you can tell he just gave the writer a concept and didn't do much else.

I don't believe Hamill for a second. I'm sure he'd come back for any Batman project if it piqued his interest enough. Still, ever since Arkham Origins I've come to think of him as less necessary as Joker. Troy Baker's Joker voice isn't quite as refined as Hamill's (which I suppose isn't fair to compare, given the many years of experience he has with the character now) but it is pretty damn close.

 

Conroy, though, is unbeatable. The only person that comes close to being as good is Bruce Greenwood from Young Justice and Under the Red Hood. Like I said, I really don't like the latest guy they've been using regularly. The guy they used in Year One was outright terrible... in my opinion, anyway.

 

I agree wholeheartedly about YJ on blu-ray. That show was absolutely beautiful at times, and it's a shame that it hasn't been given the best treatment. As for the continuation, it would preferably be an animated movie... but I'd also settle for a comic mini-series as long as they got Greg Weisman to properly write it and put Chris Jones back on the art. 



#4897 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 03:24 AM

Then again Conroy is only known for Batman, while Hamill...Jesus, without a doubt he's my favorite voice actor. Meaning for the longest time he's said Arkham City was last forray as the Joker (outside of random small things like doing it at cons or I guess Robot Chicken) and well, he's got enough fantastic voice work under his belt that I can see him not really looking back in having to play the character again anytime soon. I Mean, he plays Skips the skipping yeti on Regular Show, that alone just amazes me knowing that he's played so many characters I enjoy.

 

Also wasn't knocking Conroy, either, but all I can think of him for better or worse is literally just Batman. Meaning he is the quintessential, definitive Batman in my book and I can only think of him as just that.



#4898 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:47 PM

And don't know how, but I got more than usual amount of comics this week...

 

-Animal Man #27

-Avengers #25

-Batman #27

-Batman and Two-Face #27

-Batwoman #27

-Black Widow #1

-Dead Body Road #1

-Deadly Class #1

-FF #16

-Green Lantern: New Guardians #27

-Harley Quinn #2

-Justice League #27

-Walking Dead #120

-Wonder Woman #27



#4899 GhostShark   The Drunken Whaler CAGiversary!   3143 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:53 PM

Yeah. This week was one of those "Almost every single book on my pull list is coming out" weeks. 



#4900 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:08 AM

Last week was super light, but goddamn all of sudden this week and next week seem ridiculous. Also wasn't Forever Evil "suppose" to come out this week?



#4901 poison_SHADOW   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   508 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:49 AM

Yeah, I'm definitely not looking forward to my next comics bill. I'm enjoying Forever Evil but, shit, I really need it to end. 

 

Anyhoo, just watched Justice League: War. I know N52 Superman is a lot more arrogant and hotheaded than before... but was he this "punchy" in the JL arc this was based on? Dude's role was basically to punch EVERYTHING and EVERYONE in sight while smiling, awkwardly stare at Wonder Woman, break someone's neck (where have I seen that before?) and then punch more things. What the hell? Plus George Newbern did voice acting in this movie... as Steve Trevor, not Clark. The hell?!

 

Jason O'Mara is still a terrible Batman. Flash was great but underused overall, Sean Astin as Shazam was fantastic casting in my opinion, WW's actress unfortunately slanted more towards the bad side... and Green Lantern's lines absolutely made the movie for me. Cyborg was okay too, though the dramatic dialogue with his dad could've been written a little better. 

 

It was nowhere near as good as Flashpoint Paradox, though I'd say it was about on par with Justice League: Doom from what I can remember - which is to say that it is fairly forgettable. 



#4902 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:18 AM

Yeah, Forever Evil has been dragging. It's a good read, but goddamn it keeps building things up and we've got four issues out and abunch of tie ins and really nothing to show for it so far besides the events of the first issue.

 

And I wasn't expecting much from JL: War since it wasn't a good story to begin with. Did the movie even have the scene where Batman takes off his cowl for no reason to try and rescue Superman from Apokalips? Because that scene in the comic drove me INSANE with how he basically does it from out of no where and it seems so un-Batman to just reveal his identity for no reason.



#4903 CaptainJoel   In Brightest Day CAGiversary!   15444 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:23 AM

I Think I finally have one complaint about about Injustice. Well, two actually. One is Superman is waaaay too apologetic about his nonstop killing. If he's committed to beating the shit out of people by now, he should have a firm grasp of "Yup, that just happened." Also poor Kyle Rayner...

 

And CaptainJoel, why you no talk comics with us more?!

Sorry, I was gone for a couple of weeks and I just finally caught up with all my comics this week.

 

Now that I have....

 

Forever Evil is badass. Still going where I want it to. Same can be said for Cataclysm and Superior Spidey. Been reading Inhumanity tie ins and while I initially was excited by the premise, I'm becoming sick of it rather quickly. It's just not keeping my attention very well. The Superior tie in was well written and gorgeously illustrated, at least. Catching up on Deadpool since I was gone was major fun. Especially since they decided to add Scott Adsit (Pete from 30 Rock) in as an agent of Shield. That goes right up there with Professor Posehn, Colbert for President, and Hawkeye wearing mc chris shirts on the list of coolest things I've seen in comics.

 

I also watched Justice League: War earlier and I liked it. Green Lantern's voice acting was the worst, though. Justin Kirk's delivery was almost always off and his voice just did not fit well at all. Darkseid's voice acting came in a close second because of the heavy effects they put on it just made it sound like absolute horse shit. Overall, they did a great job adapting the first arc of New 52 JL (as well as including CM without making him feel shoehorned in) and I look forward to more. Especially if they can keep away from the Flashpoint art style. This looked miles better. Also, O'Mara has his moments of being a good Batman in this. I think that he should deliver a better performance in Son of Batman (which I am so goddamned excited for that it hurts).

 

And yes, Batman did have that moment where he takes off his mask to rescue Superman.

 

 

Outside of the usual stuff, I've been re-reading X-Force/X-Statix. I really wish Marvel would get serious about their animated movies and adapt it. I really think it would be a big hit and possibly even spawn a tv show.



#4904 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:57 AM

So...do they even explain why in the JL:War would Batman ever take off his cowl? Or it kinda just happens and they figure you have to accept it?


Outside of the usual stuff, I've been re-reading X-Force/X-Statix. I really wish Marvel would get serious about their animated movies and adapt it. I really think it would be a big hit and possibly even spawn a tv show.

Still the best X anything from Marvel in the past decade or two. I Always wonder if Marvel didn't just yap their mouths to all media outlets about future big events if we'd have gotten "Di Another Day" story as intended. Plus I'd rather it be an Adult Swim type of cartoon series. I'd love to see the Allred's style animated and brought to life. That and that series had such fantastic one off issues and mini's that spawned off from it, that I'd love to see get the spotlight. Things like the Wolverine & Doop mini series animated would blow my brain out my goddamn skull.

 

Oh and welcome back.

 

Speaking of Posehn, he was on Comedy Central's @midnight a few days ago.



#4905 poison_SHADOW   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   508 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:43 AM

So...do they even explain why in the JL:War would Batman ever take off his cowl? Or it kinda just happens and they figure you have to accept it?


 

He gives a speech about how he and Green Lantern are the only "normal guys" out of the bunch, then removes his mask and tells Hal about his parents being murdered as well as his real name. Then he starts putting civilian clothes on for his Superman rescue. 

 

It was a definite WTF moment. If it were anyone else, you could chalk it up to him feeling like it was only fair to reveal his identity since he knew Hal's name already... but this is Batman we're talking about here.



#4906 CaptainJoel   In Brightest Day CAGiversary!   15444 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:53 PM

So...do they even explain why in the JL:War would Batman ever take off his cowl? Or it kinda just happens and they figure you have to accept it?

Still the best X anything from Marvel in the past decade or two. I Always wonder if Marvel didn't just yap their mouths to all media outlets about future big events if we'd have gotten "Di Another Day" story as intended. Plus I'd rather it be an Adult Swim type of cartoon series. I'd love to see the Allred's style animated and brought to life. That and that series had such fantastic one off issues and mini's that spawned off from it, that I'd love to see get the spotlight. Things like the Wolverine & Doop mini series animated would blow my brain out my goddamn skull.

 

Oh and welcome back.

 

Speaking of Posehn, he was on Comedy Central's @midnight a few days ago.

I agree on literally everything. I really wish we could have seen Di Another Day as originally intended. It would have been great. The show would do amazingly well on Adult Swim. I hope one day that something happens with it.

 

And I know! It was great!

 

He gives a speech about how he and Green Lantern are the only "normal guys" out of the bunch, then removes his mask and tells Hal about his parents being murdered as well as his real name. Then he starts putting civilian clothes on for his Superman rescue. 

 

It was a definite WTF moment. If it were anyone else, you could chalk it up to him feeling like it was only fair to reveal his identity since he knew Hal's name already... but this is Batman we're talking about here.

I still think it was stupid. Mainly because Supes had already spoiled his identity. 

 

I wish Superman hadn't seemed so douchey in this.



#4907 GhostShark   The Drunken Whaler CAGiversary!   3143 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:02 PM

Forever Evil is alright. If not for Lex Luthor, the series would be a bust. And nothing has really happened since issue #1. Johns is pulling a Bendis and dragging this shit out. 

 

Don't judge Inhumanity yet. It's barely gotten started. Plus, the delays are partly Fraction's fault because he wanted to drop the book to focus on more creator-owned titles, so Marvel had to scramble to get a new writer (Charles Soule). And speaking of Soule, Swamp Thing is the best DC book on the market. 



#4908 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:28 PM

He gives a speech about how he and Green Lantern are the only "normal guys" out of the bunch, then removes his mask and tells Hal about his parents being murdered as well as his real name. Then he starts putting civilian clothes on for his Superman rescue. 

 

It was a definite WTF moment. If it were anyone else, you could chalk it up to him feeling like it was only fair to reveal his identity since he knew Hal's name already... but this is Batman we're talking about here.

The hell? Batman is not a normal guy when compared to Green Lantern. Hell, if there was a goddamn comparison between the both mentally, GL would be the only normal guy among the two. That's one scene that should've been left out since it can never make any sense.

 

And so far favorite thing I read this week is Deadly Class. That one is definitely going in the pull list.



#4909 GhostShark   The Drunken Whaler CAGiversary!   3143 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:24 PM

Is that the new Remender Image book? I thought about getting it, but decided to pass since I already spent 50+ this week on comics.

 

I also managed to get a copy of All New X-Men 22.NOW (the first chapter of the Trial of Jean Grey cross over with GotG) that came with a giant three foot X-Men poster. Pretty rad. 



#4910 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:35 PM

Yup. It's the new Remender hotness. The art and layout by Wes Craig make it worth it alone, but the concept and setting (which first issue relies heavily on lower income areas of Reagan's America in the 80's) has me interested in seeing where it'll go.



#4911 poison_SHADOW   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   508 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:43 PM

The hell? Batman is not a normal guy when compared to Green Lantern. Hell, if there was a goddamn comparison between the both mentally, GL would be the only normal guy among the two. That's one scene that should've been left out since it can never make any sense.

 

And so far favorite thing I read this week is Deadly Class. That one is definitely going in the pull list.

Yeah, there truly is no way to make sense of it. It seemed to be intended as a "take away your ring, strip away my armor, we're the same" kind of speech but... even that doesn't work. Bruce still has all his crazy skills and martial arts prowess out of the batsuit. Hell, you could even argue that he could perform BETTER without an armored suit on. That's not even taking his mind and general thought processes into consideration, like you said.

 

Then again, dude could have just been trying to get Hal to slow his roll. He did get pummeled and broken just before Batman's speech, and was trying to go off on a lone suicide assault. I guess he was just pointing out that neither one of them were unbreakable. He could've done that with his mask on, though. *shrug* 



#4912 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:51 PM

Hal Jordan came back to life because of Parallax and was The Spectre and his soul was brought back to his body by Ganthet. Bruce Wayne escaped death and went through time and space and back to his normal life because he's motherfucking Batman.

 

Plus Batman tried fighting Superman hours, maybe minutes earlier. The more we discuss this the less it makes sense.



#4913 moon_knight   Gotta Have Blue Hair CAGiversary!   766 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:19 AM

I finished reading Wanted for the first time, I liked it overall. Although, based off it and Kick Ass, Mark Millar's writing seems a little too mean spirited for me.



#4914 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:23 AM

Millar is actually capable of writing things that aren't overly cynical and have a positive message. Superior was basically his love letter to Christopher Reeves and the Superman films. Though for better or worse, Lenil Francis Yu was the artist on that one and he loves drawing tig ol bitties.

 

Otherwise 1985 is only other one I can think of. Supercrooks and The Secret Service are somewhere in that middle ground.



#4915 moon_knight   Gotta Have Blue Hair CAGiversary!   766 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:40 AM

^ What about Old Man Logan? That and Superior are the only comics of his I have an interest in so far.



#4916 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:46 AM

I Think it's possible to get past Lenil Francis Yu's ways of drawing women and enjoy that book. So I can endorse Superior and say give it a shot. Old Man Logan is basically a post apocalyptic western in a Marvel universe where the villains have won. If you enjoyed that sentence I just typed then I think you'll enjoy it, especially if you're a fan of Wolverine.



#4917 GhostShark   The Drunken Whaler CAGiversary!   3143 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:57 AM

Old Man Logan is good. But Ultimates/Ultimates 2 will always be Millar's best work. Ultimates 2 is probably the best-written and developed comic from start to finish.



#4918 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   14637 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:05 AM

Before Jeph Loeb came and took a big ol dump all over it and the rest of the Ultimate universe.



#4919 CaptainJoel   In Brightest Day CAGiversary!   15444 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:18 PM

But the Ultimate Universe is still good. I'm just mad about the Ult X-men plotlines left to float around.



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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:10 PM

Yeah, there truly is no way to make sense of it. It seemed to be intended as a "take away your ring, strip away my armor, we're the same" kind of speech but... even that doesn't work. Bruce still has all his crazy skills and martial arts prowess out of the batsuit. Hell, you could even argue that he could perform BETTER without an armored suit on. That's not even taking his mind and general thought processes into consideration, like you said.

 

Then again, dude could have just been trying to get Hal to slow his roll. He did get pummeled and broken just before Batman's speech, and was trying to go off on a lone suicide assault. I guess he was just pointing out that neither one of them were unbreakable. He could've done that with his mask on, though. *shrug* 

I remember you asking about the X comic heres a  pic its dr.cain finding X I assume so it should be out soon hopefully

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