MSG4 on 360?

SmokyPreacher

SmokyPreacher

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I know there hasn't been any official announcements, but do you yourself and eye think that MSG4 will ever come to 360? I think I read that they hinted at it but nothing more came of it. I would love to get it on da box because sorry ps3 owners/fanboys but that game alone isn't enough for me to go drop another $400+ when there aren't nearly any other games I'm remotely interested and most of which are already on/coming to the 360.
 
[quote name='SmokyPreacher']I know there hasn't been any official announcements, but do you yourself and eye think that MSG4 will ever come to 360? I think I read that they hinted at it but nothing more came of it. I would love to get it on da box because sorry ps3 owners/fanboys but that game alone isn't enough for me to go drop another $400+ when there aren't nearly any other games I'm remotely interested and most of which are already on/coming to the 360.[/QUOTE]

I hope it doesn't come out on the 360 just so that you can't play it.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']I hope it doesn't come out on the 360 just so that you can't play it.[/quote]

:cry: that one hurt....well excuse me for not having the income to go buy another $400 console on the basis I want to play one game. I was just asking if anyone thought it would come guess that makes me an asshole.
 
[quote name='SmokyPreacher']:cry: that one hurt....well excuse me for not having the income to go buy another $400 console on the basis I want to play one game. I was just asking if anyone thought it would come guess that makes me an asshole.[/quote]

What sucks even more is that you could have gotten a PS3 last week from Wal-Mart or Best Buy and also get a free $100 gift card with it.
 
[quote name='SmokyPreacher']:cry: that one hurt....well excuse me for not having the income to go buy another $400 console on the basis I want to play one game. I was just asking if anyone thought it would come guess that makes me an asshole.[/QUOTE]

I'm not even trying to be mean, but you're just asking for random thoughts?

Sure! Why not, give me some Mario while we're at it.
 
I was wondering what they'd have to downgrade to make it fit on a dvd9. Sound would probably take a big hit, textures too. If the game was about 8 hours long, it would be no problem, but them cinematics is long.
 
I can almost guarantee I will not own a PS3 unless I am to somehow find one(however that be), I get a hdtv and have the need/want for a blu ray player, or can find one for $200. As of now I would much rather save that money towards a new gaming PC.
 
The 360 has about 2x the install base of the PS3. It will happen.

If that isn't enough reason for you. Sony pretty much lost exclusivity to just about every other major franchise that was "destined" to make the PS3 the front-runner this generation. To think that this series is any different is absurd.

Then again, Snake does have a pretty sexy 'stache.....

I'm sorry, what were we talking about again?

~HotShotX
 
[quote name='ninja dog']I was wondering what they'd have to downgrade to make it fit on a dvd9. Sound would probably take a big hit, textures too. If the game was about 8 hours long, it would be no problem, but them cinematics is long.[/quote]

If the cinematics are using the in-game engine then they shouldn't take up that much space. Those uncompressed audio and texture files'd have to go though.

As for the OP's question:
I think it makes too much sense financially for Konami not to release it on 360. They had no qualms about releasing their PS2 golden egg MGS2 on an Microsoft console a year later, and the 360 user base is much more enticing than the X1's was. I'd guess it's a matter of time.
 
[quote name='HotShotX']The 360 has about 2x the install base of the PS3. It will happen.

If that isn't enough reason for you. Sony pretty much lost exclusivity to just about every other major franchise that was "destined" to make the PS3 the front-runner this generation. To think that this series is any different is absurd.

Then again, Snake does have a pretty sexy 'stache.....

I'm sorry, what were we talking about again?

~HotShotX[/quote]

Exactly. It may be a year or longer, but I think it'll eventually come out on the 360. I bought a 360 around a year ago, and I honestly can't afford another system. $100 gift card or not, I'd still be dropping $400+ on another console.
 
It is possible, they have the technology, and the money...the only thing they'd need to do is lower the texture resolution a bit, and obviously compress the audio (5.1?).
 
I'd imagine that it's going to happen eventually. In all honesty the days of third party system exclusives have pretty much come to an end. It really just boils down to how long you want to wait to play it.
 
[quote name='HotShotX']The 360 has about 2x the install base of the PS3. It will happen.
~HotShotX[/QUOTE]PS2 had a larger install base and games like KOTOR, Dead or Alive 3, etc. were all Xbox exclusive. All consoles will have their own exclusives, that's all their is to it. And do you think Sony is going to let MGS4 slip from them with the amount they are pushing it??? I don't think so (DMC was not a series they really pushed over the years, unlike DMC). 2X the install base is incorrect actually, it's 1.5X worldwide.

Also, Kojima himself doesn't want to bother porting MGS4 anywhere, and Konami just doesn't have any other capable internal team to do it (their 2nd best team is their Castlevania team, but they are busy. Most of their teams are gone).

Late ports just don't sell, regardless of userbase. Viewtiful Joe did solid on GC, but when ported to PS2, next to no one bought it. MGS2 sold crazy well on PS2, but no one really bought MGS2 Substance on Xbox. Konami avoided a port for the third since they knew it just wouldn't sell as a late port. Lost Planet did well on 360 and next to no one bought it on PS3. Despite VF5 having more features on 360, it still sold better on PS3. Late ports just don't sell, because after 6 or so months, a game becomes old news and people want the newest games. Simultaneous games on the other hand can do well on two platforms.
 
LOL.

Do not hold your breathe. And for a lot of people out there, they dont want to buy a 360 to play 1 game (Gears of War 2) so dropping 349.99 for a 360 is out of the question!

Give me a break. I own all 3 systems, the PS3 is my favorite. 360 had good games, but they pretty much have junk for this year for exclusives IMO.
 
This is funny stuff...

[quote name='HotShotX']The 360 has about 2x the install base of the PS3. It will happen.[/quote]

2x in AMERICA. PS3 ahead in europe, 360 is a disaster in japan. Overall worldwide it is nowhere near 2x. By end of the year, PS3 should be even with the 360 worldwide if not already surpassing it.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']This is funny stuff...



2x in AMERICA. PS3 ahead in europe, 360 is a disaster in japan. Overall worldwide it is nowhere near 2x. By end of the year, PS3 should be even with the 360 worldwide if not already surpassing it.[/quote]


You don't have to do this.
 
I don't think it's out of the question completely... it's no doubt that a lot of people don't own a PS3 and that MGS is a damn popular series and it probably cost quite a bit to produce. I'm sure they could make some more money by porting it over to the 360.
 
[quote name='mang9432']why would you want a salty flavor enhancer that's bad for you on your xbox. Let them have their MSG. :)[/quote]

:lol:

Just noticed the title. xD!
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Late ports just don't sell, regardless of userbase. Viewtiful Joe did solid on GC, but when ported to PS2, next to no one bought it. MGS2 sold crazy well on PS2, but no one really bought MGS2 Substance on Xbox. Konami avoided a port for the third since they knew it just wouldn't sell as a late port. Lost Planet did well on 360 and next to no one bought it on PS3. Despite VF5 having more features on 360, it still sold better on PS3. Late ports just don't sell, because after 6 or so months, a game becomes old news and people want the newest games. Simultaneous games on the other hand can do well on two platforms.[/QUOTE]

This is true, and a very good point.
 
I figure it will get ported, but probably not until 2010 at the earliest.

Definitely wouldn't sell well as it would just sell to people with 360s who kind of wanted to play it but didn't give enough of a shit to even think about buying a PS3 to play for it.
 
[quote name='trq']This is true, and a very good point.[/quote]



not really. he's just squirming to justify why they won't do it for his own peace of mind :roll:
 
From a sheer economic standpoint, I'm going to say yes.

If you look at the cross-platform releases for the rest of the series I'd have to think it will eventually see some green as well. MGS on the Gamecube as Twin Snakes, MGS2 on the Xbox as Substance. Only MGS3 didn't see an Xbox release, mostly due to timing - Microsoft discontinued support completely around the time it could have been ported, why bother to do it after that?
 
I hope not, as I now have a PS3. ;)

If it moves to 360, then I'd want to play it for Achievements. As it stands, the PS3 is the only place I can play it...so I will play it there.

The Wii and PS3 are strictly for console exclusives to me, while the 360 gets the multiplatform stuff. If MGS4 gets ported, that goes against my purchasing habit.
 
It has already been confirmed a couple years ago ;)
mgs4xbox360oj1.png
 
Woo, a 20disc box set, count me in!

Another little thing that got me was the addition of the "disc-change" scene, and having to reinstall every chapter (yes I know it's due to BD read speeds) - it just makes it rather convenient to be able to split it up into a 5-6 DVD9 set tho! :)
 
[quote name='looploop']They had no qualms about releasing their PS2 golden egg MGS2 on an Microsoft console a year later, and the 360 user base is much more enticing than the X1's was. I'd guess it's a matter of time.[/quote]Funny, I don't recall MGS3 being released on the Xbox. I mean if number 2 did so well, you'd think they would have kept the port train rolling.

Come on people, this is KONAMI we're talking about. Guitar Hero gets huge, instead of releasing a sweet Guitar Freaks/Drum Mania combo they give us BEATMANIA. You can see where their common sense is lacking.
 
[quote name='TimPV3']
Come on people, this is KONAMI we're talking about. Guitar Hero gets huge, instead of releasing a sweet Guitar Freaks/Drum Mania combop they give us BEATMANIA. You can see where their common sense is lacking.[/quote]

They named it Rock Revolution.
 
[quote name='Rig']They named it Rock Revolution.[/quote]Wow, I totally missed that.

Hilarious considering some idiots don't know about their music games and assume they're ripping off of Guitar Hero/Rock Band.
 
Aside from all the technical challenges facing a port, they would either have to cut out a few scenes or have the actors do new voicework for certain sections of the game. Without spoiling much the game is very aware that it is a ps3 game.
 
[quote name='ninja dog']not really. he's just squirming to justify why they won't do it for his own peace of mind :roll:[/QUOTE]

The point about late ports is valid. There are some exceptions -- RE4, for example -- but in general, they just don't sell. I don't foresee Bioshock doing gang-busters on the PS3 either.

That said, though, I'm still not sure that this trend would be enough to prevent Konami from releasing it on the 360 -- they really need every sale they can get. Metal Gear has always been a stronger franchise in the US than Japan, and the numbers they've said they'd need to move for the game to be successful are pretty high, so unless Sony is quietly slipping Konami some moneyhats under the table, not doing it would be foolish. And porting it without Kojima is far from unlikely; ports are rarely done with the lead developer -- Ninja Gaiden and Bioshock are good examples again. And the technical "hurdles" are negligible, as far as I can tell. The issue of blu-ray storage is mitigated by replacing the install after every act with a disk change.

On the other hand, it's entirely possible that Konami would just take the extremely narrow profit they'll make with it as a PS3 exclusive and call it a day. I wouldn't be surprised either way.
 
[quote name='trq']The point about late ports is valid. There are some exceptions -- RE4, for example -- but in general, they just don't sell. I don't foresee Bioshock doing gang-busters on the PS3 either.

That said, though, I'm still not sure that this trend would be enough to prevent Konami from releasing it on the 360 -- they really need every sale they can get. Metal Gear has always been a stronger franchise in the US than Japan, and the numbers they've said they'd need to move for the game to be successful are pretty high, so unless Sony is quietly slipping Konami some moneyhats under the table, not doing it would be foolish. And porting it without Kojima is far from unlikely; ports are rarely done with the lead developer -- Ninja Gaiden and Bioshock are good examples again. And the technical "hurdles" are negligible, as far as I can tell. The issue of blu-ray storage is mitigated by replacing the install after every act with a disk change.

On the other hand, it's entirely possible that Konami would just take the extremely narrow profit they'll make with it as a PS3 exclusive and call it a day. I wouldn't be surprised either way.[/quote]
MGS4 on the 360 makes sense because Konami has put millions into the PS3 version. A MGS4 on the 360 would cost a fraction of what it did on the PS3 simply because they have all the assets. They will no doubt be lowering the resolution of the textures, so porting down (even if only a slight bit) is perfect in this case. I imagine the game would be on 2-4 discs, but we already have Lost Odyssey to break that mold. What i really think could prosper on the 360 is MGSO. Xbox Live would be perfect to really get MGSO up and going.
 
It'll happen, but it'll take several years (to allow time for PS3 owners to finish watching all the cutscenes).
 
[quote name='TimPV3']Wow, I totally missed that.

Hilarious considering some idiots don't know about their music games and assume they're ripping off of Guitar Hero/Rock Band.[/quote]
I think it's been discussed on the forums and I think even the CAGCast that, that game is totally ripping off GH/RB. With the whole interface and how it throws everything from Guitarfreaks and Drummania out the door for similar interface to those games. So just because Konami started it, doesn't mean they're not following their exact example now (plus their drum set is fraggin hideous).

Also, this does not look like any member of the team that made those games http://kotaku.com/5016798/zo-mode-revealed-as-rock-revolution-dev Ah, good to go off course.
 
So what if it doesn't come out for the 360? Buy a PS3 then. You want to spend $300+ for one game be my guest. I'll buy a PS3 when blu-ray movies hit $15 or less like normal DVDs and theres more then one game worth owning (although I have quite a bit interest in drake).

BTW someone needs to call the Microsoft defense force (what is our logo, Master Chief's helmet?) over the PS3 outselling the 360 in the US. It's not going to happen till the 720/whatever they call it is out. Microsoft had a huge jump in the US, Europe and Japan is another story and the PS3 will win those two territories.
 
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