New XBOX Experience - General Discussion

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FAQ/Stuff that people keep saying every single page:

[size=+2]1. "I HATE THIS, I WANT THE BLADES BACK":[/size]

Press the guide button.

[size=+2]2. "WTF, WHERE IS MY GAMERPIC?":[/size]

Press the guide button. Among other things.

[size=+2]3. TO DELETE DEMOS/GAMES WITH ZERO ACHIEVEMENT POINTS IN YOUR HISTORY:[/size]

Guide Button > Left Arrow > Achievements > select game with score of 0 > X button.

[size=+2]4. HOW TO INSTALL TO THE HARD DRIVE:[/size]

My XBox > Y button on left-most box > Install to hard drive (game must be in tray for both installation and gameplay).

[size=+2]5. "THE OLD THEMES LOOK LIKE CRAP NOW":[/size]

Yes, they do. Wasted money. Pony up for the new overpriced "premium" themes and you'll get something that fits the new layout a bit better. And something that gives your friends list a customized background.

[size=+2]6. QUEUE UP MARKETPLACE DOWNLOADS VIA XBOX.COM SO YOU CAN SHOP THROUGH YOUR PC:[/size]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/ (USA link)

Pre-release stuff:

Confirmed during the TGS presser, the update will be lauched on November 19th.

I actually got an invite during this second round of emails. There probably isn't much for me to discuss at this point but if I see anything cool I'll update here.

[size=+1]UPDATE 11/2/08 - Info from early NXE user:[/size]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5056339&postcount=685 (thanks gordojones88)

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[size=+1]UPDATE 10/20/08 - Memory upgrade program now live:[/size]

Link if you want to try to nab a cheap 20GB hard drive or free 512MB memory card.

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[size=+1]UPDATE 10/10/08 - For the 0.5% of you who do not have a hard drive or memory unit larger than the old 64 MB model:[/size] (Via X3F)
At 128MB, the New Xbox Experience will be too big for some Xbox 360s to handle.

The entry-level Arcade box has no onboard hard drive, but Microsoft has promised to release 'Storage Solutions' to help out those who will otherwise miss out on key features.

Speaking to Xbox 360 Fanboy, LIVE's Major Nelson said, "To help ensure all Xbox LIVE members are able to download the New Xbox Experience and enjoy its new features, Microsoft will be offering storage solutions to the Xbox LIVE community. We are not sharing details of this offering yet."

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[size=+1]UPDATE 10/8/08 - DVD vs. Hard Drive load times video:[/size]

Keep in mind that MS said it'll have a greater effect on older games - the game used in the video is GTA4 so you won't get a major difference.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/275585.html

(thanks bubbafett4hire)


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[size=+1]UPDATE 10/1/08 - Interactive preview videos[/size]

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/nxe/

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[size=+1]UPDATE 9/26/08 - Themes and Friends Channel pics & info[/size]

Via Gamescore Blog:
http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2008/09/26/ntmsxe.aspx

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[size=+1]UPDATE 9/25/08 - ExpertZone points status & Avatar customization video[/size]

FYI for all those who have access to ExpertZone, the points you earn don't carry over to the new site so you have to use them before Nov. 3rd or you lose them. (Thanks to life.exe)

Avatar customization vid: http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2008/09/19/561157.aspx (thanks Prime)

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[size=+1]UPDATE 7/31/08 - Leaked/rumored Avatar customization list:[/size]

Hats:

* Black Baseball Cap
* Baseball Cap
* Flat Cap

Hair:

* Side Parting Hair (and with hat)
* Slicked Parted Hair (and with hat)
* Clean Cut Hair (and with hat)
* Compact Hair (and with hat)
* Crew Cut Hair (and with hat)
* Slicked Hair (and with hat)
* Ponytail Hair (and with hat)
* Swept Hair (and with hat)
* Flat Hair (and with hat)
* The Captain Cut
* Old Hair (and with hat)
* Bun Hair
* Thick Hair
* Pig Tails
* Hair Layered with Fringe Hair Tied On Top
* Bob with Fringe Hair
* Spiked Hair
* Studious Hair Number 66
* Shaped Hair
* Basin Hair

Eyes:

* Happy Eyes
* Sharp Eyes
* Half Moon Eyes
* Focused Eyes
* Harmless Eyes
* Passive Eyes
* Relaxed Eyes
* Surprised Eyes
* Soft Lashes
* Restful Eyes
* Monday Morning Eyes
* Bold Eyes
* Soft Eyes
* Funky Eyes
* Wild Eyes
* Comforting Eyes
* Droopy Eyes
* Content Eyes
* Slim Eyes
* Excited Eyes
* Eagle Eyes
* Polite Eyes
* Rested Eyes
* Puppy Eyes
* Rounded Eyes
* Strong Eyes
* Boxed Eyes
* Thin Eyes
* Studious Eyes
* Tranquil Eyes
* Dark Eyes
* Dot Eyes
* Tilted Eyes
* Delicate Eyes
* Almond Eyes
* Wavy Eyes
* Thick Lashed
* Eyes Wide
* Awake Eyes
* Calm Eyes
* Slender Eyes
* Kind Eyes
* Drowsy Eyes
* Acorn Eyes
* Sunset Eyes
* Genial Eyes
* No Features

Eyebrows:

* Normal
* Straight
* Arched
* Studious
* Curvy
* Large
* Familiar
* Thick
* Small
* Angled
* Big and Flat
* Delicate
* Small and Thin
* Short and Thick
* Straight and Thick
* Half Moon
* Soft
* Strong
* Monobrow

Ears:

* Fantasy Ears
* Butterfly Ears
* Round Ears
* Elven Ears
* Long Ears
* Prominent Ears
* Shapes Ears
* Small Ears
* Spiked Ears

Nose:

* Define
* Boxer's Nose
* Curved
* Drooped
* Angled
* Hooked
* Bulbous
* Large
* Sharp
* Perked
* Rough
* Rounded
* Small
* Straight
* Long
* Tiny
* Wide
* Soft

Mouths:

* Spiked Puzzles
* Gentle
* Small and Rounded
* Curvy
* Deep Lips
* Smirk
* Grin
* Vibrant
* Unhappy
* Cheeky
* Lined
* Cute
* Fearsome
* Tongue Out
* Teethy
* Full
* Happy
* Open
* Bunny
* Vampire
* Wide
* Small
* Locked Teeth
* Glamor
* Thin Lipped
* Square
* Thick Lipped

Chins:

* Jaw Stubble
* Large
* Thin
* Long
* Chiseled
* Rounded
* Sharp
* Square
* Small
* Wide

Accessories:

* Funky Shades
* Hip Watch
* Sports Wristband
* Gold Ring
* Silver Ring
* Watch With Leather Strap
* Plain Bracelet
* Pink Bling Ring
* Green Bling Ring
* Cool Earrings

Tops Etc.

* Zip-Up Jacket with Chain Power T-Shirt (Green)
* Power T-shirt (Purple)
* Red T-shirt
* Polo Shirt
* Studious Checkered Shirt
* Blue Shirt Black Jacket with Zips Alt T-Shirt
* Manly T-shirt
* Cheap T-shirt
* Green Flowered Vest
* Tight T-Shirt (Orange)
* Tight T-shirt (Blue)
* Move T-Shirt Open Neck
* Navy Top
* Grey Shirt
* Yellow Cardigan with Green Vest
* Cowgirl Shirt
* Black Crop Top with Sweat Bands
* Short Brown Jacket Tight
* Green Flowered Vest

Bottoms Etc.

* Blue Jeans
* Grey Skirt with Thread Detail Three Quarter Length
* Camo Trousers
* Short Frilly Black Skirt
* Layered Black Skirt with Belt Denim
* Short Shorts
* Hawaiian Hotpants
* Grey Jogging Bottoms
* Turn-up Surfer Shorts
* Fitted Black Trousers
* Polkadot Skirt
* Jeans with Pattern Detail
* Jeans with Side Stitching
* Beige Chinos
* Brown Trousers
* Faded Jeans
* Navy Jeans
* Brown Camo Jeans
* Surfer Shorts

Shoes:

* Formal Shoes
* Orange Sneakers
* White Trainers
* Hiker Trainers
* Brown Decks
* Light Loafers
* White and Red Trainers
* Orange and Blue Trainers
* Dark Brown Decks
* Sky Blue Decks
* Orange Decks
* Pink Decks
* Brown Sandals
* Black Boots with Buckle
* Sports Trainers

Gender and Basic Options:

* Male Body
* Female Body
* Male Body Head
* Texture Head

Neutral Animations:

* Closet Examine
* Lower Closet Examine
* Shoes Closet Examine
* Upper Closet
* Spin Animation
* Creator Walk On
* Creator Walk Off
* Creator Look Down
* Creator Look Left
* Creator Look Neutral
* Creator Look Right
* Creator Look Up
* Creator Turn Left
* Creator Pick Me Start
* Creator Pick Me Stop
* Creator Pick Me
* Generic Clap
* Generic Stand 0
* Generic Stand 1
* Generic Stand 2
* Generic Wave
* Generic Celebration

Male and Female Animations:

* Angry
* Confused
* Idle Looks Around
* Idle Check Nails (female only)
* Idle Shifts Weight (female only)
* Idle Stomp Spider (female only)
* Idle Stretch (male only)
* Idle Turn Around (male only
* Laugh
* Sad Cry
* Shocked Surprised
* Yawn

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[size=+1]Original Post[/size]

Major Nelson posted a few screenshots of "what themes could look like" with the upcoming dashboard revamp:

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Not bad. At least they aren't useless.
 
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Not liking the harsh transition in the Gears theme. I really like the other two though, they actually look like wallpapers, props.
 
Actually that looks way better than it does now. When seeing the new dash now I think it looks boring without one. But wouldnt they have to recode for every them so it works right with the dash and then reup it? If thats the case they better support old themes and have this ready for when the new dash hits.
 
[quote name='fart_bubble']looks better than the way they integrated now[/QUOTE]

I'm loving how the Halo 3 one looks...I think the Gears one is messed up - there should be stuff where the gray area is - if it were corrected that would look good as well. The Viva Pinata one looks like crap. Obviously it'll vary from theme to theme, but if this is how they decide to do it, they definitely could have done a worse job.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I'm loving how the Halo 3 one looks...I think the Gears one is messed up - there should be stuff where the gray area is - if it were corrected that would look good as well. The Viva Pinata one looks like crap. Obviously it'll vary from theme to theme, but if this is how they decide to do it, they definitely could have done a worse job.[/QUOTE]

but if they had it so the theme would stretch the full screen in the part that the GOW one shows, it would look really cluttered and make your eyes bug out. With having the gray bar, it will make it easier to navigate that part of the dash.

fuck, I still don't think I worded that right
 
I hope it's early in the fall. My avatar needs some RB2 clothes. =P

And the themes look decent. I really like the new interface personally. I just hope it isn't as laggy as the blades were.
 
I wonder if they are going to be any free onces.

All my themes are from movies and games that gave them to me for free.
 
I'd have to say that is the most obvious way for them to be... Most themes had multiple backgrounds, I wonder how if it'd still switch through those since there are no "blades".
 
Ok, so basically...all the new features hit this FALL. I believe I read Netflix is late fall also. Hopefully we get them sooner.

I also would assume the current themes would work....maybe it will randomize the blade pictures.
 
I just hope to god that the thing works fucking faster than the one now. To me it always seemed like the dashboard lag a little to much.
 
[quote name='Davideo']I'd have to say that is the most obvious way for them to be... Most themes had multiple backgrounds, I wonder how if it'd still switch through those since there are no "blades".[/quote]
Different picture for each category?
 
I do in fact fear change when it comes to this dashboard. This is the first time I've actually seen it and it doesn't look half bad. I don't see where they're going to be able to fit all the TMobile ads though...
 
looks good, the sooner the better...

I thought I had heard/read that the netflix will start up as soon as the new dash goes live. I don't see any reason why they couldn't do that.
 
I guess Major Dickhead has an alias.

I forgot about ads. That takes some of the appeal away from those screenshots since you know the final product won't look as clean as that.

[quote name='Davideo'] Most themes had multiple backgrounds, I wonder how if it'd still switch through those since there are no "blades".[/QUOTE]

True, but you're still moving right and left. I would assume they'd just put some quick change/fading effect on each background as you shuffled through them.
 
when is this supposed to happen? I am really interested in 1 vs. 100 live and how that works... I love the show and always thought there should be live versions of game shows online.... christ, the 3DO had one!
 
[quote name='DestroVega']when is this supposed to happen? I am really interested in 1 vs. 100 live and how that works... I love the show and always thought there should be live versions of game shows online.... christ, the 3DO had one![/quote]
Fall, everything new interface and new to the XBOX dashboard system is just outlined as fall. So that could mean anywhere from September-December. Its very vauge, but at least theyve put some timetable onboard instead of PS3 and Home.
 
I'm scared.

I want my laggy dashboard to stay.

Honestly, I like the modern/cover-flow look but it sure doesn't sound/look like it's going to be easier to navigate and find things but the opposite.
 
[quote name='infinitepez']There seems to be a lot of empty space in the new design. I'm also curious how this'll affect the themes we already have for our 360's.[/quote]

These builds have no ads. Expect that to change.
 
Nelson had some concept shots of how theme pics could be used on this new dash...do not like it one bit. A lot of empty space in this dash. Not even non-usable, just empty.
 
After looking at it again, I hate how they seem to make the "active" window the one on the far left...IMO, would've been better if they kept the active one in the center (and made it slightly larger), with the ones you've passed/are coming up to to the active window's left/right (respectively)
 
[quote name='woodcan']I'm scared.

I want my laggy dashboard to stay.

Honestly, I like the modern/cover-flow look but it sure doesn't sound/look like it's going to be easier to navigate and find things but the opposite.[/QUOTE]

It's hard to see, but it looks like pressing the guide button will bring up what resembles the old dashboard, at any time, anywhere.

So for those that like the old way better, it looks like you can still just hit the guide button as soon as your 360 powers up and do it the way you use to.
 
So did we ever get clarification if other users who don't have Netflix can still watch videos with you if you have the Netflix service?
 
[quote name='JohnnyFoxDarko']Ahem.

I can't wait till my Mii has Gears armor. :cool:
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If they allow that, it'd be pretty cool...but it seems that they all have the same typical shirt and pants templates.
 
[quote name='SoulReaver']So did we ever get clarification if other users who don't have Netflix can still watch videos with you if you have the Netflix service?[/quote]


if it is true or not I don't know, but unclegamers E3 podcast stated they asked, and they were told everyone needed a netflix account. To me the way it was worded at the press conference, "being able to stream it to your friends" and the talk about people watch movies together, it would make sense that you could stream it to your friends w/o them having netflix but having a gold account.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']If they allow that, it'd be pretty cool...but it seems that they all have the same typical shirt and pants templates.[/quote]

Remember when the avatar stories first leaked? They had one pic where the dude was in a bunny suit. I definitely think it's possible that they might have some crazy clothing options, especially for achievement unlockables.
 
I think this interface looks great.

The blades were great for a console with 100's of piece of content, not 1000's. It was a great interface for 4 million hardcore gamers, but it's not great for 40 million consumers. This is far more organized and friendly interface.

As long as it's fast I won't feel like I lost anything.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']Remember when the avatar stories first leaked? They had one pic where the dude was in a bunny suit. I definitely think it's possible that they might have some crazy clothing options, especially for achievement unlockables.[/quote]

It is going to be hilarious to encounter a clan of Furries.
 
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