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Heavy Rain Discussion Thread


#61 NamPaehc   !Anihc Ni Hsan CAGiversary!   4965 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:39 PM

Ok check out 1UP for a large preview, and a few other places have smaller previews too.

If you are not into QTE's or "Choose Your Own Adventure" then this might not be for you. But, believe it or not there are actually people out there who enjoy such things... Like me.

#62 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:54 PM

LOL, I bet a bunch of previous QTE-opponents suddenly will tolerate them for this one game. :roll:

#63 Shrapnellistic   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   872 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:42 PM

The newest gameplay videos aren't as polished as the first gameplay we saw (female journalist in taxidermist's house) - what's up with that?

#64 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:07 PM

The newest gameplay videos aren't as polished as the first gameplay we saw (female journalist in taxidermist's house) - what's up with that?


Because that video was bullshit, meant to drum up hype.

It's a pretty standard industry practice. Not surprising that Heavy Rain succumbs to it as well, to those who can see through QD's ridiculous claims.

#65 robin2099   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   243 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 05:54 AM

Because that video was bullshit, meant to drum up hype.

It's a pretty standard industry practice. Not surprising that Heavy Rain succumbs to it as well, to those who can see through QD's ridiculous claims.


Ugh, your not starting this again are you. This is getting really annoying when you have nothing better to do than bash the developers and the game cause of a personal vendetta.

#66 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:05 AM

Ugh, your not starting this again are you. This is getting really annoying when you have nothing better to do than bash the developers and the game cause of a personal vendetta.



There's nothing "personal" about it.

Not only did they lie to and string-along the entire gaming public with their insane promises, but by extension, they also spit in the face of the entire collective computer art community and industry alike by claiming to have bested all of their efforts at realism throughout the entire history of computer graphics, and then after enormous gaps of media silence, they put forward this as the fruits of their labor, and the supposed fulfillment of their claims and ambitions. You can't even chalk it up to being a shameless marketing tactic that Sony put them up to; David Cage is known to be an egomaniac.

And I won't even start on gameplay here, other than to say that QTE's and context-sensitive buttons might have been fairly innovative, had this game come out in 2001. To call this a revolution in gameplay and interactive storytelling? Insulting.

The otherwise enthused will brush this off, but I consider the entire existence of Heavy Rain to be a gross insult (again, not a personal one, as stated), which I believe they deserve to be punished for and reminded of for the rest of time. Because I'm a jerk like that, I guess.

#67 Vanigan   V.V.V.V.V. CAGiversary!   1171 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 10:43 AM

*rubs fingers together*

This is the worlds smallest violin is playing for your sense of self righteousness.

Get over it. It's a game, and if you really think it's an insult, do better, become a developer and top them. Otherwise, other developers aren't really complaining, they're too busy actually making games for a living to worry about one outspoken guy doing what outspoken gasbags normally do, which is *gasp* speak hyperbole about their game that they want to sell. Hell, every developer does this.

And even despite all the Heavy Rain still looks like a groundbreaking game on many levels.

#68 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 11:18 AM

And even despite all the Heavy Rain still looks like a groundbreaking game on many levels.


Name one.

#69 Gspoon   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   220 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:14 PM

New clips and Gameplay footage

GAMETRAILERS.COM



#70 TruthinessFC   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   417 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:49 PM

The otherwise enthused will brush this off, but I consider the entire existence of Heavy Rain to be a gross insult (again, not a personal one, as stated), which I believe they deserve to be punished for and reminded of for the rest of time. Because I'm a jerk like that, I guess.

Talk about getting swept away by the hype.. wow.

Spoiler


#71 McNutsack   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   825 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:00 PM

There's nothing "personal" about it.

Because I'm a jerk like that, I guess.


No, just a tool.

#72 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:00 PM

No, just a tool.


Miter saw.

#73 NamPaehc   !Anihc Ni Hsan CAGiversary!   4965 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:11 PM

EVERYONE please try and keep the personal stuff out of this thread. I humbly ask you to "take it outside" via message or a blog, just lets try and have enough respect to keep this thread on track.

#74 DarkNessBear   CABear CAGiversary!   6478 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:16 PM

Yea CoffeeEdge get the Fuck out of here.

#75 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:02 PM

Yea CoffeeEdge get the Fuck out of here.


What? I never made any personal remarks to anyone. McNutsack is the one who decided to make things personal by calling me a "tool," so maybe he should be the one to "get the Fuck out of here."

Now, if we're talking about personal opinions about this game, well, what else is this thread supposed to discuss?

Honestly, NamPaehc, do you believe and expect that the way this thread should play out is just you posting every trivial update about this game, get a few posts about "looks great, can't wait to play it," rinse, repeat? Is that what you're asking for? Because if you want people to "keep the personal stuff out of this thread," then please direct that at McNutsack et al.

#76 Kanik   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   366 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:55 PM

When I saw the preview video I went "huh", just doesn't look like the game that was presented last year. Actually, it kinds looks like the Matrix Online...very unpolished.

The QTE gameplay looks interesting, but I keep reminding myself how frustrated I was with RE5's surprise QTE cutscenes, especially towards the end.

#77 robin2099   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   243 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 03:02 AM

What? I never made any personal remarks to anyone. McNutsack is the one who decided to make things personal by calling me a "tool," so maybe he should be the one to "get the Fuck out of here."

Now, if we're talking about personal opinions about this game, well, what else is this thread supposed to discuss?

Honestly, NamPaehc, do you believe and expect that the way this thread should play out is just you posting every trivial update about this game, get a few posts about "looks great, can't wait to play it," rinse, repeat? Is that what you're asking for? Because if you want people to "keep the personal stuff out of this thread," then please direct that at McNutsack et al.


You basically make it personal when you constantly come in her and bash the game, and seemingly make it your life long goal to bash it, Quantic Dream and the developers. We get it, you hate the game, but most of us have had enough, going back to when you got the original thread closed for the exact same crap.

#78 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 03:13 AM

You basically make it personal when you constantly come in her and bash the game, and seemingly make it your life long goal to bash it, Quantic Dream and the developers. We get it, you hate the game, but most of us have had enough, going back to when you got the original thread closed for the exact same crap.


LOL, I did? I didn't even remember.

Anyways, no. It's no worse than the pattern of NamPaehc posting every trivial update about this game. It's just a pattern of repetition.

#79 robin2099   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   243 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 05:19 AM

LOL, I did? I didn't even remember.

Anyways, no. It's no worse than the pattern of NamPaehc posting every trivial update about this game. It's just a pattern of repetition.


Not really. He actually, you know posts information and updates about the game since it's the official news and discussion thread for it. Your doing nothing but trolling and ranting about things, when no one really cares. So again, not really the same thing.

#80 CoffeeEdge   Resident Communaut CAGiversary!   8536 Posts   Joined 17.0 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 05:40 AM

Not really. He actually, you know posts information and updates about the game since it's the official news and discussion thread for it. Your doing nothing but trolling and ranting about things, when no one really cares. So again, not really the same thing.


I never knew that people "caring" was a requirement for posting.

But fine, dude. I'll leave for a while. But next time I tell someone to STFU and GTFO, they'd better do it, in exchange for this.

#81 DarkNessBear   CABear CAGiversary!   6478 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 06:25 AM

Nobody has a problem with you voicing your opinions on a game, even if they are negative (a few posts above Kanik basically says he doesn't think the game looks any good). It's just how you do it - it's ruthless (and unstopping) and this wouldn't be the first case either. You're a smart guy and I enjoy reading your opinions about things, but you can often times get carried away.

@THREAD- BUT not wanting to take away from this thread - I actually am uneasy about the lack of polish it currently has. The "test" level they showed looked very natural and detailed, but what they have showed recently is lacking heart (minus the club scene - that looks pretty nice). Although, they did say they have a long way in terms of polishing. I'm just excited for it because my girlfriend is, she wants to be a criminal profiler and so this game is pretty much a dream game for her.

#82 NamPaehc   !Anihc Ni Hsan CAGiversary!   4965 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 07:31 AM

Questions Answered on the PSBlog.

States the game is still in alpha, a little surprising to me if they want it out by the end of the year.

#83 laaj   $$$$ CAGiversary!   947 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 09:02 AM

Questions Answered on the PSBlog.

States the game is still in alpha, a little surprising to me if they want it out by the end of the year.


I don't think you know what alpha means. Alpha means all the work on the gameplay and content are about done. All that remains is making the game work without bugs and tweak the game. Beta is when the entire game is playable just incase you're wondering.

#84 JetTone   Life CAGiversary!   2759 Posts   Joined 14.9 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:14 AM

Hmmm, an adventure game. I may need to look into this when it comes out. I haven't really looked at any previews. If I enjoyed Shenmue, and Dreamfall, will I like this?

#85 chuckywang   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1644 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 11:06 AM

How do you actually play this game? In all the videos I've seen, the only thing you can do is press the trigger to move forward and play some minigames God of War style.

#86 Kanik   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   366 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 01:09 PM

I don't think you know what alpha means. Alpha means all the work on the gameplay and content are about done. All that remains is making the game work without bugs and tweak the game. Beta is when the entire game is playable just incase you're wondering.


Ya - they had the Alpha version of DC Universe playable at NY Comic Con. What I played could've easily been released as a game.

#87 Ecofreak   That's Ah Bingo!!! CAGiversary!   4109 Posts   Joined 16.5 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 04:20 PM

Watched the GT TV show from this week -- and I'm glad to know that it's a more complex experience than simply a bunch of QTEs. Having done some research on "Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit," I am really quite interested in seeing how this game turns out.

Only problem is that I'm a "scaredy cat" and I'm not too sure how well I could handle a suspense thriller that is "plausible" in real life (and one reason why I don't watch CSI and their ilk). Still, I'm curious to see how "mature" the game goes and the interplay between the four different characters.

#88 NamPaehc   !Anihc Ni Hsan CAGiversary!   4965 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 05:25 PM

I don't think you know what alpha means. Alpha means all the work on the gameplay and content are about done. All that remains is making the game work without bugs and tweak the game. Beta is when the entire game is playable just incase you're wondering.


No I know what alpha means... Lets say distribution takes about a month and a half. If it comes out at the end of December, being pressed sometime in mid November, that gives them like 5 1/2 months to polish. Can it be done? Oh yeah.

I guess I just prefer for them to be sitting on a beta for months because you really never know what issues might pop up on any part of the product. :D Luckily this isn't an online intensive title, but it has been in development for so long I'm surprised they are so confident to have it cleaned up and gleaming brightly for us this year. Not that I mind.

Again not saying it doesn't happen, but that I am used to them "dragging" things out because this has been in development for so long.

#89 laaj   $$$$ CAGiversary!   947 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 24 May 2009 - 09:48 PM

Again not saying it doesn't happen, but that I am used to them "dragging" things out because this has been in development for so long.


I'd say they're more closer to beta than alpha just by looking at the gameplay video from Gametrailers. So I'm not worried at all :D. And Sony can easily fast track the distribution of this game since they are publishing it.

#90 NamPaehc   !Anihc Ni Hsan CAGiversary!   4965 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 29 July 2009 - 05:46 AM

New interview. Touch on a lot of the same things we've seen before but I noticed some interesting portions too.

David Cage is also keynoting GDC Euro this year.