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I'm buying a new laptop, but I need YOUR help!


#1 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:38 AM

I'm sick of using outdate techonology so I've decided to buy a fancy new laptop to replace my dying one. I would like to spend as little as possible but I'd be willing to go as high as about $1000 if necessary.

More than anything I want it to be fast. I hate waiting for my computer to drag its feet or get bogged down when I have several programs running so I guess I'd like plenty of RAM and a good processor (I've gathered that Intel Core 2 Duo is the way to go).

I don't know a thing about video cards but I'd like to be able to play some PC games for a change. I don't see this as being a 'gaming laptop' but rather a laptop that happens to be able to run some games. Also, my major is civil engineering so I'll be using Autodesk software in my future, I'm guessing this needs a decent graphics card?

I don't care about weight and I won't be relying on the battery enough for the battery life to be much of a factor in my decision. The size of the HDD isn't too important either because I have a 500GB external HDD. As for the optical drive, just a CD/DVD burner combo is fine.

I'd like for the screen to be as large as possible, but I know this quickly makes the price go up and it isn't a big priority of mine.

I've been looking at Newegg and Dell(XPS series looks nice) but I don't really know what I'm looking for yet so some help would really be appreciated.

A few questions though, is now a bad time to buy a new computer? Is there anything rumored to be right around the corner that I should wait for? I know Windows 7 isn't far off but Microsoft says it's requirements won't be higher than Vista's so if I get a laptop with Vista, I should be able to switch over to W7 no problems, right?

#2 Hydro2Oxide   Shazbot! CAGiversary!   4773 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:16 AM

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834152086
If you want a gaming laptop, this one seems to be pretty good.

EDIT: Oh, and windows 7 is practically the exact same thing as Vista. There should be no problem should you choose to upgrade but it's not that necessary to upgrade it.

#3 ZerotypeX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3876 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:31 AM

Here's 2 Asus gaming laptops at Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.c...cat150700050002

15.6" screen, 320gb hdd, core 2 duo mobile processor, 512mb vid card, 3gb ram, under $1000

If you want Windows 7, I would prolly wait until computers are preloaded with them if you are not a fan of installing a new OS.

#4 Hydro2Oxide   Shazbot! CAGiversary!   4773 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:29 AM

#2 of the two ^ posted is better, better processor and the same graphics card. Same RAM and processor of the one I posted except it's got the better graphics card and Windows pre-installed so that saves you about 100 bucks. Seems to be the best of the ones posted so far.

#5 SOSTrooper   θ = fractional occupancy CAGiversary!   2739 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:35 AM

I agree, the 2nd one from Best Buy looks like a pretty good pick. Here's the direct link to that laptop.

#6 DrFoo   I think I can beat you. CAGiversary!   573 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:16 AM

Yeah listen to the last 3 posts. That laptop is one of the best deals out right now and has great specs all around as long as you don't care about weight/battery life.

#7 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 12:24 PM

Thanks a lot for the help guys.

The second laptop posted (Best Buy) does look like a really good one. My only question (other than "Why?" for the case) is about the HDD speed. It says it's 5400 RPM in one spot and 7200 in another. Does it really matter either way? This might all be for naught anyways because none of the stores in my area have this and it doesn't ship...

...which brings me to this, the other laptop seen in the 2nd link of this thread. It looks exactly the same as the other one except for a slower processor. I'll probably hold out for something better since obviously they're out there but it seems like a viable option.

#8 ZerotypeX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3876 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:02 PM

^^^
The difference in processor speed between those 2, you will hardly notice a difference.

Also, go to your local best buy to browse around. You might get lucky and find the one you are looking for. Besides, you might find something else better than the ones listed

#9 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:28 PM

I plan on going to stores to play around with some laptops before I buy anything, I just want to have a grasp on what I'm looking for when I go.

As for the two laptops, I noticed here that the P7450 (2.13GHz) actually does better than the P8400 (2.26GHz). The 2.26GHz processor is actually one of their worst rated systems (#10). I don't know how reliable that site is but that certainly makes the second laptop more enticing.

#10 tankass   Badass Mutha CAGiversary!   715 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:51 PM

Quick question. I always ask this when people tell me they are getting a laptop thats gonna be used for gaming and such. Do you really need a laptop? Could u live with a desktop or is this gonna be used for travel on a bus or something. The only reason I ask is cause most of the people that say they want a laptop end up just putting on their desk anyway and never take it anywhere. Which if you want the most bang for you buck would be to get a desktop for half the price and more features.

#11 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:25 PM

I could probably get by with a desktop but I am a college student so it's nice to be able to take my computer with me to the library, lecture, etc. I'm willing to pay extra for portability.

#12 tankass   Badass Mutha CAGiversary!   715 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:17 PM

Understood. Then I cant add anything on top of what these guys said. Just be warned, a lot of laptop companies like to make proprietary stuff so get a warranty if possible. Ive had enough people ask me to fix their laptops to end up telling them that whatever is broken cant be replaced without paying a premium price to get it from the company. I know my brother got a laptop with a warranty from best buy and got his moneys worth replacing the battery after a few years cause they all seem to lose their charge capabilities after a while.

#13 Hydro2Oxide   Shazbot! CAGiversary!   4773 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:50 PM

In case you are interested in a desktop, for the same price as these you can get the worlds most epic desktop ever.

#14 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 06 May 2009 - 09:14 PM

Dangit, now you've made my decision 10x harder. :D That thing could probably last me the rest of my life.

#15 SOSTrooper   θ = fractional occupancy CAGiversary!   2739 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:01 AM

In case you are interested in a desktop, for the same price as these you can get the worlds most epic desktop ever.


It has no video card though :bouncy:


You should really stick with the laptop. Like you said, it's really nice to be able to bring your laptop with you to the library (hey, I was a student once too). And to answer your earlier question, a 7200RPM hard drive in theory is faster than 5400RPM in both write and read speed. But in real world test, you're not going to be bothered by the extra second you have to wait for the game level to load or the extra 3 seconds for windows to boot. 5400RPM hard drive saves you a bit of battery, and produces less heat. It's going to be a trade off situation, but to give my opinion based on my experience, the 5400RPM hard drive will be good enough.

#16 ZerotypeX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3876 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:33 AM

Understood. Then I cant add anything on top of what these guys said. Just be warned, a lot of laptop companies like to make proprietary stuff so get a warranty if possible. Ive had enough people ask me to fix their laptops to end up telling them that whatever is broken cant be replaced without paying a premium price to get it from the company. I know my brother got a laptop with a warranty from best buy and got his moneys worth replacing the battery after a few years cause they all seem to lose their charge capabilities after a while.


A warranty shouldn't be needed unless you Fuck things up. If you know what you are doing, it's not needed. Actually, my boss tonight put her big water bottle, company laptop, little book of calendar, and other miscellaneous stuff women put in bags into her bag. 20 secs later, I hear "Crap!" and saw her pull her newly issued company laptop out of her bag and water just dripping out of it. Needless to say, everything in that bag had water damage. Thankfully the laptop was not on/sleep/hibernate, but the battery was still in it.

If you do get a warranty, read the terms and stuff. You might actually luck out/cheat the system like my friend did. Bought a warranty at Circuit City with her laptop, 2 years later when the extended warranty was about to be up, she somehow "fried" the cpu. It was not fixable and since she was under the extended warranty saying if they can't fix it, they provide a new one to her. They couldn't fix it and she was able to get a brand new up-to-date laptop.

In case you are interested in a desktop, for the same price as these you can get the worlds most epic desktop ever.


12 gigs of ram...geez, can a OS even utilize all that ram? Dream machine indeed, but not sure if OP is into/ok with putting parts together.

#17 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 07 May 2009 - 01:33 PM

Good points all around. I think I'll stick with a laptop even if I could get more for my money with a desktop.

I'm hoping to go to BB this Saturday and play around with all their laptops. While I'm there I'll look into their warranties and see if they're worth it.

#18 Hydro2Oxide   Shazbot! CAGiversary!   4773 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 06:01 AM

12 gigs of ram...geez, can a OS even utilize all that ram? Dream machine indeed, but not sure if OP is into/ok with putting parts together.


No they can't actually but I think the selling point to that package is you won't have to upgrade your hardware for another 4-5 years and still be able to run anything. Once it can be utilized you'll have the extra 4 gigs on hand.

#19 DaMonStEr   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   520 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

Posted 08 May 2009 - 06:42 AM

macbook

#20 DrFoo   I think I can beat you. CAGiversary!   573 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:14 PM

macbook

Here is the only macbook in his price range. 2gb ram, 120 gb hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. I guess if the OP wants to spend $100 more for half the computer and buy windows for boot camp it would be a good choice.

#21 Hydro2Oxide   Shazbot! CAGiversary!   4773 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 09:26 PM

Here is the only macbook in his price range. 2gb ram, 120 gb hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. I guess if the OP wants to spend $100 more for half the computer and buy windows for boot camp it would be a good choice.


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#22 Timmt   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   784 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2009 - 04:10 AM

Thanks a lot for the help guys.

The second laptop posted (Best Buy) does look like a really good one. My only question (other than "Why?" for the case) is about the HDD speed. It says it's 5400 RPM in one spot and 7200 in another. Does it really matter either way? This might all be for naught anyways because none of the stores in my area have this and it doesn't ship...

...which brings me to this, the other laptop seen in the 2nd link of this thread. It looks exactly the same as the other one except for a slower processor. I'll probably hold out for something better since obviously they're out there but it seems like a viable option.


I just bought this same notebook off of eBay for $730 BIN - 14% cashback = $627.8 + tax with free shipping. Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/...999&PID=1225267

That auction has ended, but the seller relisted here: http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem

Even though it is refurbished, mine looks brand new. Cashback right now is 10%, which makes it $657 + tax, but that is still a great deal (save almost $200 over buying a new one) for an awesome gaming laptop. The only concern is the lack of warranty at all, but you can buy a one-year or two-year warranty from www.squaretrade.com (35% off coupon code floating around) if you want. Also, note that it comes with Vista Home Premium 64-bit.

Whether you buy new or refurbished, the Asus G50vt-x1 is a great machine for the price.

To answer your question, it comes with a 7200 rpm HD, and even though it says it has 4GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM, it actually comes with 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM.

Another option, if you are patient, is this Gateway P-7805u for only $702 shipped: http://forums.slickd...45459&t=1319625

It's currently out of stock, but it comes back once in a while.

#23 DaMonStEr   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   520 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2009 - 05:07 AM

You wouldn't understand the benefits of a mac unless you had one. Does not matter how powerful a pc 's specs are once it gets spyware8-)

#24 mrchainsaw   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1115 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 09 May 2009 - 02:59 PM

I'm not even considering getting a Macbook. I know several people who have them and they love them, but I will be using Autodesk which means I'll just be using it as a PC anyway. And like DrFoo noted, they're expensive.

That Gateway laptop looks REALLY good. Is Gateway a reliable brand? The warranty is only 30 days but if I see that back in stock, I might go for it. Thoughts?

#25 n25philly   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   649 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 03:47 PM

You wouldn't understand the benefits of a mac unless you had one. Does not matter how powerful a pc 's specs are once it gets spyware8-)


ugh. Painfully stupid arguments hurt my productivity even more

#26 Mr. Anderson   spends too much time here CAGiversary!   8984 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 10:38 PM

You wouldn't understand the benefits of a mac unless you had one. Does not matter how powerful a pc 's specs are once it gets spyware8-)


If you know what you are doing and have common sense, you too can keep your PC free of spyware!

Macs are only good for recording and editing.

#27 Staind204   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2317 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

Posted 10 May 2009 - 01:22 AM

I just bought this..

http://www.bestbuy.c...d=1218043606827


So far I love it (besides the fact that the computer is huge). AFAIK it can play all modern games at medium/high settings too!

#28 Hydro2Oxide   Shazbot! CAGiversary!   4773 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 01:28 AM

You wouldn't understand the benefits of a mac unless you had one. Does not matter how powerful a pc 's specs are once it gets spyware8-)


If I wanted to spend a lot of money on a laptop, I'd want it to be a powerful computer to game so I'd need Windows. If I wanted to spend only a little money, I'd get a weak computer like a netbook and I'd run Ubuntu. I see no space for Macbooks in any situation.

#29 maingon   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   138 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 19 May 2009 - 05:03 AM

I just bought this same notebook off of eBay for $730 BIN - 14% cashback = $627.8 + tax with free shipping. Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/...999&PID=1225267

That auction has ended, but the seller relisted here: http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem

Even though it is refurbished, mine looks brand new. Cashback right now is 10%, which makes it $657 + tax, but that is still a great deal (save almost $200 over buying a new one) for an awesome gaming laptop. The only concern is the lack of warranty at all, but you can buy a one-year or two-year warranty from www.squaretrade.com (35% off coupon code floating around) if you want. Also, note that it comes with Vista Home Premium 64-bit.

Whether you buy new or refurbished, the Asus G50vt-x1 is a great machine for the price.

To answer your question, it comes with a 7200 rpm HD, and even though it says it has 4GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM, it actually comes with 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM.

Another option, if you are patient, is this Gateway P-7805u for only $702 shipped: http://forums.slickd...45459&t=1319625

It's currently out of stock, but it comes back once in a while.


So the laptop came looking new, works fine?

#30 devilsrule2004   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   26 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 01:56 AM

that laptop looks good to me