[quote name='100xp']out of curiosity, any chance they say/how to tell if they are the newer batch of 360 controllers? I bought one with the play and charge kit when it was $38 from amazon last year (yeah, awesome price) but the D-pad felt stiff, almost like it only had a 4 direction pad. The controllers than xbox 360 comes with and the red wireless ones feel like they have an 8 directional D pad.
insight?
(otherwise it's a nice price)[/QUOTE]
It all depends. The one that came with my Elite feels just like the one you're describing, but all others I've bought feel fine (despite the fact that the d-pad sucks regardless).
So, don't assume that the only good ones are the ones that come with the console.