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CAGcast #190: World of Duty


#151 RoganSarine   Goomba's Elf CAGiversary!   917 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 12:34 AM

Another great episode that started my morning out! Mind you, since I listen to it at work first thing, I can't really remember anything besides CheapyD's and Wombats never ending laughter about call of duty -- not saying it's a bad thing.
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#152 Gamer SDP   not much of a gamer CAGiversary!   4396 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:56 AM

If that Sony Network issue really was due to some small program typo for leap years then WOW...

I actually listened to the ME2 part despite any intention of playing either of the ME games.

#153 donkeydrop   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   307 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:37 AM

Cheapy was incorrect in his understanding of intellectual property rights. Activision in no way has to prevent others from using the Kings Quest name in order to protect their rights; as long as they grant permission and dont just ignore the use then they maintain their rights. In fact several Kings Quest fan projects (including this one) have been done under a non-commercial license with the previous rights holder, so they didnt have to take any action at all. Considering that the last commercial Kings Quest game was 18 years ago they should be thanking people for keeping the name alive.

I believe the project in question did use some copyrighted material from the earlier games, which would be protected almost indefinitely, but I can't imagine that Activision has any claim to the Kings Quest name itself. The usual standard for abandonment on trade marks is only 5 years.

#154 CheeseDAWG1127   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   3 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 03:02 AM

Wombat lashed out of cheapy. I got scared.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 04:06 AM

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#156 Bad7667   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   4 Posts   Joined 5.1 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 05:20 AM

CheapyD, Bioshock 2 does tell you the everything you need to know about what time period you're in. When the game starts its within the first 3 minutes.

Shipwreck couldn't be more wrong about bioshock 2, it does everything better than the first, including removing the worst hacking mini game I have ever played. The only thing it doesn't do was to make rapture feel new, which would be near impossible. Also its a damn sequel what the hell were you expecting?


I have been listening for a month now and the first couple podcast's I really enjoyed Wombat, but these last two he comes across as an arrogant and ignorant prick. Maybe Wombat needs to get off that diet, its making him depressed.

I will continue listening as I have enjoyed most of the ones I have downloaded. And other than Wombat, I am enjoying listening to what the others have to say.

#157 Wolfpup   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9954 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 05:38 AM

Ah man, this is kind of hilarious. I find out I mistyped a post in the last show's thread by hearing it quoted on the CAGcast :lol:
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#158 Captain Ramirez   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   9 Posts   Joined 5.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 05:54 AM

Great show CheapyD, Wombat & Shipwreck, was listing to the CAGcast in Asakusa in Japan & i enjoy the show alot & also that CheapyD keep messing with Wombat :D. also i'm sorry i didn't meet you in person CheapyD but japan is a very big place & i'm still new to the place still. keep up the great work guys.

#159 retro_collector   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   47 Posts   Joined 5.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 04:08 PM

I think Halo Reach looks pretty good. I'm read The Fall of Reach novel, but the two stories are supposed to stand alone. I'm looking forward to it!

#160 PaddedCell   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   104 Posts   Joined 5.5 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 06:52 PM

Until we know what happened with IW and Activison, I will base my opinion on the shittyness that Activision's ceo represents. The statement in which he said is the way to run game development alone is bullshit.

Not to mention raising the prices of games because they know gamers will pay for it. However I guess they were right, MW2 sold billions, they know their market of mindless consumers.

#161 200STM   Bro-Gamer CAGiversary!   791 Posts   Joined 6.1 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 07:35 PM

Wow thanks for the show guys Im looking forward to picking up Bioshock 1 now. Im glad I dont need to jump on Bioshock 2, awesome show thanks

#162 frithion   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   16 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 08:25 PM

Ugh all the wombat hate. Just stop it, its not his fault the mouse and keyboard are too much for him!

#163 Curufinwe   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   954 Posts   Joined 5.9 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 09:49 PM

And some guy here posted that all previous GoW games together have sold 8 million copies. For a AAA flagship series like GoW that is nothing. Both Halo 2 and 3 each sold more than the entire GoW series combined according to vgchartz.com. To me that is an absolute travesty and a clear sign that Sony's marketing is faltering at this.


Sony marketing failed because Halo sells better than God of War? Put down the crack pipe and instead compare God of War's sales to games in the same genre like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden.

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#164 MattZack   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1015 Posts   Joined 8.4 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:11 PM

I think Wombat is right about GoW - Sony should have guitar heroed the heck out of it. What do you guys think the right amount of games per year for a hot property is?
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#165 natrozim   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   15 Posts   Joined 5.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:50 PM

Good show, sadly I decided not to listen to the spoiler section at the end since I didn't play ME2 yet... Guess I'll be leaving this podcast in my ipod a bit. I can't wait to listen to the discussion after finishing the game!!!

#166 Mayday   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   223 Posts   Joined 5.4 Years Ago  

Posted 07 March 2010 - 11:13 PM

Awesome show guys, but still Shipwreck you need to speak up, otherwise great show. Also, with E3 rapidly approaching and with the trio of cagcasters going what are you predictions? Will it be another Family focused frenzy from the big three or will actually see something good.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 12:16 AM

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At the beginning of the game, your partner and Shipwreck's original love interest (Oceana) is about to turn 15. Towards the end, (one year later) she is almost 16. The information about her age is only in the European game. Maybe Nintendo of America thought she was hot too?

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#168 gokieks   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   13 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 01:53 AM

Regarding the Wombat and PC gaming parts, while I don't think Wombat is, as others have called him, a douchebag (at least not when he isn't intentionally trying to be one), I do think he was very far off the mark when his statements in the last episode basically seem to indicate that he thinks the only people affected by the draconian DRM are pirates. It's really completely the opposite, and the people who would actually buy the game (or consider doing so) that are the ones negatively affected.

I believe it was Gabe Newell who said that developers and publishers need to stop thinking about the pirates, but instead on the customers who actually will pay, and focus on making making the purchasing and playing experience better for them. Unfortunately it doesn't seem too many publishers have reached the same conclusion.

Anyway, pretty good show, though I think Shipwreck is wrong regarding ME2 allowing you to set ME1 decisions if you don't import a character - it's extremely limited in terms of what you can do and doesn't come anywhere close to having a ME1 save of your own. So Wombat's point of needing to have played ME1 to get the most out of ME2 is correct... but I don't think that's a bad thing. As good a game as ME2 is, it's still the storyline and characters that was the draw - the actual gameplay bits of ME1 have enough issues, even on the improved PC version, that I don't think I would've cared about a sequel if it wasn't that I found the universe to be fascinating. So for a series that was designed from the outset as a trilogy, needing the player to play through all of them to get the full experience is to be expected.

#169 thedolphinsrule   It's Morphin Time!!! CAGiversary!   3106 Posts   Joined 9.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:02 AM

Lets hope they don't Guitar Hero the shit out of the Call of Duty franchise

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#170 itachiitachi   PC Gamer CAGiversary!   636 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:04 AM

I agree with cheapy that ME2 needs space battles, what's the point of a space game if you don't fight in space ships

As for the king's quest thing, there are plenty of fan made games of other IP's and those companies haven't lost their IP's. Even if this king's quest is diffrent I'm sure activision could work out some licensing/contract that would satisfy both sides and instead of looking like douche-bags they would come out smelling like a rose.

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#171 Wombat   CAGcast or nothin CAGiversary!   2317 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:15 AM

Regarding the Wombat and PC gaming parts, while I don't think Wombat is, as others have called him, a douchebag (at least not when he isn't intentionally trying to be one), I do think he was very far off the mark when his statements in the last episode basically seem to indicate that he thinks the only people affected by the draconian DRM are pirates. It's really completely the opposite, and the people who would actually buy the game (or consider doing so) that are the ones negatively affected.


Well if that s what it seemed like, I apologize. I know that DRM greatly effects the consumers, I never said that it only effects pirates nor should it have been implied. All I said was that if you don't like the DRM send the publisher a message by not buying it, but don't pirate it either. Thats all I said.

#172 MIGGO   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   93 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:20 AM

Ah man, this is kind of hilarious. I find out I mistyped a post in the last show's thread by hearing it quoted on the CAGcast :lol:


Had that happen once. Made me feel like a major dumbass.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:21 AM

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#174 Microshock   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   613 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:39 AM

Sony marketing failed because Halo sells better than God of War? Put down the crack pipe and instead compare God of War's sales to games in the same genre like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden.


People think that if a game doesn't sell 5 million plus, it's a failure. Many of Sony's games have long legs. Uncharted 2 didn't sell millions in the first week, but it's sold over 3.5 million copies at this point.

LBP has sold over 3 million. KZ2 over 2 million. I don't know other numbers

#175 bebop   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   93 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:48 AM

Liked the mass effect 2 talk. In regards to DRM thing I think wombat is mostly correct. Going to get that PC now that you are moved in cheapy? I am looking forward to playing starcraft 2 on mine.

#176 gokieks   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   13 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:50 AM

Well if that s what it seemed like, I apologize. I know that DRM greatly effects the consumers, I never said that it only effects pirates nor should it have been implied. All I said was that if you don't like the DRM send the publisher a message by not buying it, but don't pirate it either. Thats all I said.


I was referring to the previous week's episode, when I think you said something along the lines of "the people who're complaining about the DRM are those who were probably going to pirate anyway", which does makes it seem like the legitimate customers don't care about the DRM (which they do, of course). I know it was probably just a slip-up in terms of how you were answering the question (and heck, give anyone a live microphone to speak into long enough and they're bound to have something like that - I know I would!), but I just figured I'd point out (probably) why the vitriol were flowing. :)

#177 yoonas   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   2 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 07:44 AM

Just jumped into the CAGcast after a 6-month hiatus and I have to say that (although this is probably really old news) Shipwreck really brings some new life into the show, along with Cheapy's allmightiness and Wombat's hit-or-miss humor.
Now off to listen to the back catalog.
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#178 hoofrog   Game Whore CAGiversary!   1023 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:28 PM

My only gripe with Wombat's DRM comments are how do you know about a game's specific DRM unless you purchase it or wait for everyone else to do so and complain?

#179 ratzombie   aka yunkie CAGiversary!   12862 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:47 PM

Lets hope they don't Guitar Hero the shit out of the Call of Duty franchise

Well it's already happening... an action adventure Call of Duty game? Ugh.

Anyway, good show.

#180 o2012o   The better David CAGiversary!   489 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:18 PM

Haven't listened to the show in a while, but you guys were in fine form this week.
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