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Changes to UK deals - introducing the "Deal Stream"


#1 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 05:06 AM

Posting deals has always been a bit clunky around here. Doing things via the old deal system took forever - you had to fill in a form that took 5 minutes, only to have it turn into a boring link with a rating system no-one ever used. Posting in the forums wasn't much better - with entire threads devoted to a single game, most of the time it wouldn't be worth commenting on. So, we've made some changes to the deal system. It's early days and more changes are coming, but what we have to start off with should make using the deal system a lot more enjoyable for everyone.

The first big change is to the way you can submit a deal into the system. Instead of filling out a massive form, everything has been replaced with a single text field.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=13899
Just type your deal in the field and submit!


The new submission system is pretty smart, it doesn't matter how you input your deal - it'll figure out how to format it and recognize all the key information. Just make sure you include the name of the game, the platform, the price, and the link - along with any info other CAGs will need to get the price. (e.g. coupon codes, specific instructions, etc.) Because deals are now a lot easier to submit, we're moderating all the submissions to cut down on duplicates. As soon as your deal is approved, it'll appear in the deal stream.

The second big change is how the deals are viewed. In the old system, each deal was a bloated table that took up a quarter of the page - it made browsing deals slow, since so much of the page was wasted on blank space and over-sized box art. The new layout has been on a diet, box art will zoom on-click, and unnecessary page elements only appear when you're likely to need them. Click the info button next to a deal's price to launch a price checking window, where you can see all the latest new and used prices for that game - all without leaving the page.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=13902
Extra links only appear when hovering over a deal, and box art can be enlarged with a single click.


Besides helping out your fellow CAGs, there's a new reason to post deals - a weekly raffle to win the game of your choice up to the value of £50 (subject to availability - we have to be able to buy/pre-order it!). Every time you submit a deal that gets approved and added to the deal stream, you'll earn a raffle ticket. Every Sunday we'll randomly draw a ticket out of all the entries to pick our winner. (Registered users only.)

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=98&pictureid=13903
There are no limits to the number of tickets you can earn for deal posting.


So, that's a brief look at the new deal stream system. Stay tuned for more features soon, including a revamp of our front page integration. :)

Edited by John, 13 April 2010 - 06:36 AM.


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Posted 13 April 2010 - 05:44 AM

Good luck!



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Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:36 AM

This looks awesome! Great work John! :D
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:49 AM

Much better!

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 09:56 AM

Wow, it looks amazing. Good Job John!

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 12:16 PM

Good stuff, although I think the rating system held relevance. Now I don't see where you can mark a deal down for being bad or cheaper elsewhere.
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 12:39 PM

Looks Purdyyy :)

also does this mean that this forum would be used for deals that required some coupon codes or something along those lines?
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#8 Benedict   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   106 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 12:54 PM

Hope this works out.

I see some problems that might occur.

Before a deal is moderated and published in the stream the item may be sold out.
I posted a deal about an hour ago and it hasn't showed up yet in the stream. (edit: seems that the deal I posted disappeared last time, resubmitted it again just now)

How do I know that nobody else posted that deal at roughly the same time and how do you choose which one who will be credited with the deal?

The raffle ticket draw is a good idea, but might also give an overflow of "deals", as people try to get as many tickets as possible.

Otherwise it looks interesting.

Edited by Benedict, 13 April 2010 - 01:02 PM.
strange "trash" text in the end message. 2:nd edit: Added information.


#9 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 01:29 PM

Good stuff, although I think the rating system held relevance. Now I don't see where you can mark a deal down for being bad or cheaper elsewhere.


We have an alternative to ratings, it'll be up tonight.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 01:55 PM

Ok, my pending deal dissappeared AGAIN for no reason I can think of...

Is this an error or have somebody judged my deal to be no good?
I have received no messages regarding the deal to my user profile if I posted it wrongly or what.

FYI the deal was Wii Sports Resort with Motion Plus for £24.89 at simplygames.com, Lowest price on CAG is £29.97.

Would love to get a reply on why my deal has dissappeared.

#11 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:22 PM

Ok, my pending deal dissappeared AGAIN for no reason I can think of...

Is this an error or have somebody judged my deal to be no good?
I have received no messages regarding the deal to my user profile if I posted it wrongly or what.

FYI the deal was Wii Sports Resort with Motion Plus for £24.89 at simplygames.com, Lowest price on CAG is £29.97.

Would love to get a reply on why my deal has dissappeared.


A glitch that has now been fixed, sorry about that - try again.

Edit: it's in now, I approved one that you resubmitted.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:26 PM

A glitch that has now been fixed, sorry about that - try again.



Worked perfectly!

Thank you for fixing it.

#13 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:35 PM

Before a deal is moderated and published in the stream the item may be sold out.
I posted a deal about an hour ago and it hasn't showed up yet in the stream.

How do I know that nobody else posted that deal at roughly the same time and how do you choose which one who will be credited with the deal?

The raffle ticket draw is a good idea, but might also give an overflow of "deals", as people try to get as many tickets as possible.

Otherwise it looks interesting.


The moderation is there to make sure that we don't get a flood of non-deals just for the sake of earning tickets... and to make sure that the automatic deal processing code is working well. (About 90% of the deals that get submitted are automatically processed perfectly, but the other 10% sometimes need a little bit of tweaking - that'll improve as the weeks go on.) Once the kinks are ironed out we might remove moderation for members who have been around for a while, but for now we need to make sure the system is working reliably. As for duplicate deal posts from multiple users, the credit always goes to whoever posts the deal first.

#14 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:45 PM

Looks Purdyyy :)

also does this mean that this forum would be used for deals that required some coupon codes or something along those lines?


The deal stream supports coupon codes - e.g. http://www.cheapassg...php?streamid=65

This forum will still get used, I'm not sure how I'll integrate it with the new system though. We might be doing something where the stream will automatically figure out if you've posted a deal in a thread.... so, if you post something like...

:360: Forza Motorsport 3 £15.91

... it'll automatically submit it to the deal stream. That might be a little way off though.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:55 PM

Sounds great :D

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 03:58 PM

Just a quick question : I live in France but I buy nearly all my games from UK retailers (and I'm sure I'm not the only foreigner). Will I be able to win the weekly raffle or is it UK resident only ?
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#17 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 04:05 PM

Just a quick question : I live in France but I buy nearly all my games from UK retailers (and I'm sure I'm not the only foreigner). Will I be able to win the weekly raffle or is it UK resident only ?


Yep, you can win. We'll send prizes pretty much anywhere it's legal for us to do so.

#18 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 04:27 PM

Top daily deals and top weekly deals have been added to the "deal stream" menu in the navbar, letting you see the most popular deals based on activity.

#19 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 05:36 PM

If you're noticing that some deals you've submitted haven't been approved, it might be because:
- I've found it cheaper elsewhere
- It's been cheaper at some point over the past few weeks
- The price is pretty much the same across all retailers

There are always going to be exceptions of course, but those are the main reasons for a deal not being approved.

#20 widow123   Bagel. CAGiversary!   88 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 05:44 PM

If you're noticing that some deals you've submitted haven't been approved, it might be because:
- I've found it cheaper elsewhere
- It's been cheaper at some point over the past few weeks
- The price is pretty much the same across all retailers

There are always going to be exceptions of course, but those are the main reasons for a deal not being approved.


Its definatly better deals go through this approval process, at least it wont get clustered with deals.

Also, the forums i assume will still be used for the zavvi monday deal posts for example?
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#21 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 05:46 PM

Its definatly better deals go through this approval process, at least it wont get clustered with deals.

Also, the forums i assume will still be used for the zavvi monday deal posts for example?


Yep, I'll probably pick out the best deals and put them in the stream, but I'll still list everything in the forums.

#22 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:02 PM

Added a front page panel showing the top 6 most popular deals on the site.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:10 AM

Cool can we ban the Very.co.uk deals while we're at it?

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:47 AM

Also, any way we can see our pending deals so we can delete them if they're a mistake or if we notice they have been posted already?

#25 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 14 April 2010 - 05:23 PM

Cool can we ban the Very.co.uk deals while we're at it?


Good idea. We won't be allowing them in the deal stream, I'm locking the other Very.co.uk thread too.

Also, any way we can see our pending deals so we can delete them if they're a mistake or if we notice they have been posted already?


Good idea, I'll add it. :)

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:29 PM

Looks really nice, too bad I'm a US-yank :P. CAG just keeps getting better!
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Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:17 AM

I see that, on one of my deals the shop has changed the games place on the site, so the original link is faulty.
Any way of changing it?
The deal was The Beatles Rock Band with mics at gameplay.co.uk.

The new link is:
http://shop.gameplay...red_Microphones

Edited by Benedict, 15 April 2010 - 10:18 AM.
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#28 John   This post entitles you to one free Morty! Administrators   2516 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 April 2010 - 11:27 AM

I see that, on one of my deals the shop has changed the games place on the site, so the original link is faulty.
Any way of changing it?
The deal was The Beatles Rock Band with mics at gameplay.co.uk.

The new link is:
http://shop.gameplay...red_Microphones


Fixed.

#29 Benedict   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   106 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 07:47 AM

So far I think this new stream has been very successful.
Very easy to add deals.
I've seen many good games for great prices.

I've would have preordered GOW Collection myself, but the shipping cost of £4.00 to deliveries outside of UK makes me wait a bit more.

I will continue to search for deals when I have the time.
I'm unemployed at the moment, so I have time.
I will probably get a new job in the following weeks which will make me post less deals when I'm out in the forest and working.

#30 JonUK   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   4 Posts   Joined 8.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:24 PM

First time i've come to this site, just registered and the deal stream has been very helpful, i've added a couple of deals of my own as i can't add links in my forum posts yet :cry:.

Hopefully i've submitted the deals correctly and they help others just as the current deals have helped me.

Thanks and keep up the good work :lol: