if this hasn't been asked, I am not a Mac fan but

There have always been recent releases available on the Mac. But nowadays the Mac is just a pc with a different OS. I really don't see a need to change the title.
 
A PC traditionally (read: almost always) refers to a computer running Windows or something similar, and a Mac refers to a computer running Mac OS...so I would say the name is significant. "Available on PC" does not always mean runs on Mac.
 
[quote name='Hydro2Oxide']PC = Personal Computer, so unless macs aren't very personal, I think the name fits.[/QUOTE]

That's wrong and you know it. A PC is a PC and a Mac is a Mac. Totally different. Look to every single Mac or PC commercial of the last 5 years for confirmation. "Hi I'm a Mac" and "Hi, I'm a PC".

cdietschrun (and his wicked cool Les Paul) is correct.
 
Why not just dummy it down to the architectures...

x86-64 Games & x86-64 General Discussion

...because it sounds stupid.

[quote name='Hydro2Oxide']PC = Personal Computer, so unless macs aren't very personal, I think the name fits.[/QUOTE]

Macs were PersonalComputers first anyways...

[quote name='plong']That's wrong and you know it. A PC is a PC and a Mac is a Mac. Totally different. Look to every single Mac or PC commercial of the last 5 years for confirmation. "Hi I'm a Mac" and "Hi, I'm a PC".

cdietschrun and his wicked cool Les Paul is correct.[/QUOTE]

Actually the title should be renamed to Windows and Linux/Unix, because the last PowerPC Mac game was years ago. Afterall Mac OS is based on Unix now... runs on the same intel chips as many of you are running...
 
[quote name='plong']That's wrong and you know it. A PC is a PC and a Mac is a Mac. Totally different. Look to every single Mac or PC commercial of the last 5 years for confirmation. "Hi I'm a Mac" and "Hi, I'm a PC".[/QUOTE]

It's amazing what a years of advertising can do to the mind set of the average person.
 
[quote name='plong']That's wrong and you know it. A PC is a PC and a Mac is a Mac. Totally different. Look to every single Mac or PC commercial of the last 5 years for confirmation. "Hi I'm a Mac" and "Hi, I'm a PC".

cdietschrun (and his wicked cool Les Paul) is correct.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Should see my David Gilmour Black Strat I got for cheapies... :)
 
[quote name='Draekon']It's amazing what a years of advertising can do to the mind set of the average person.[/QUOTE]
you're kidding right?
a pc is anything that steve jobs denounces ie. flash
a mac is what a pc should. welcome to 2010. hello!!!
 
[quote name='tekzor']you're kidding right?
a pc is anything that steve jobs denounces ie. flash
a mac is what a pc should. welcome to 2010. hello!!![/QUOTE]

A Mac uses the same hardware as a machine that runs Windows or Linux. Say hello to 2006.
 
I always automatically assumed that PC = Mac, Linux, PC, Amiga, C64, Oxygen...etc.

If you can install the OS on a rig you can build yourself it's a PC.
 
[quote name='Megazell']I always automatically assumed that PC = Mac, Linux, PC, Amiga, C64, Oxygen...etc.

If you can install the OS on a rig you can build yourself it's a PC.[/QUOTE]

Word.
 
[quote name='plong']That's wrong and you know it. A PC is a PC and a Mac is a Mac. Totally different. Look to every single Mac or PC commercial of the last 5 years for confirmation. "Hi I'm a Mac" and "Hi, I'm a PC".

cdietschrun (and his wicked cool Les Paul) is correct.[/QUOTE]

Actually its not wrong, but you are.

PC stands for personal computer. A mac is a computer, so is a linux box and so is one running windows 7. A computer is just a inanimate object. Its a box with a processors, a hard drive, ram, a video card, a sound card, some sort of input device, and motherboard hooking them all together and display screen and I hate to break it to you but macs and windows machines both have all that stuff so they are indeed both computers that can be personally owned by a person thus making them personal computers.

Its only been split up as pc and mac by users unofficially because like I said a computer is just a computer and personal means its one for everyday use and owned by a individual and not a database machine or gateway used at a business.

Thats like trying to argue that a whopper and a big mac are completely different and nothing alike. While true they are different but they are still both hamburgers.

The only reason the two are differentiated by people is because of fanboys and computer snobs. Windows users acted like a bunch of hooting dickholes and outwardly make fun of mac users because there are more windows users, mac users on the other hand turn their noses up in general because they are of a higher class of computers users that are to self important to be caught using a mac. So both groups instead of just acting like computer users have unofficially made the two phrases 2 different things when really they arent because like I said a computer is a computer.
 
[quote name='tekzor']you're kidding right?
a pc is anything that steve jobs denounces ie. flash
a mac is what a pc should. welcome to 2010. hello!!![/QUOTE]

wut :drool:
 
Didn't windows have an advertising campaign with something like "I'm a PC?" I am pretty sure the general trend is that PC means Windows.
 
[quote name='help1']Didn't windows have an advertising campaign with something like "I'm a PC?" I am pretty sure the general trend is that PC means Windows.[/QUOTE]

Same trend with the Mac commercials... and that only lasted for what, a year.

Same stupid falacy.
 
LOL OK how about NON - Console and Mobile Phone based gaming.... this should cover the "anything you can build and put an OS on legally" and the Mac
 
[quote name='help1']Didn't windows have an advertising campaign with something like "I'm a PC?" I am pretty sure the general trend is that PC means Windows.[/QUOTE]

So?

Why would you conform with a company label when it is counter productive for consumer self-interest?

They can have as many commercials as they like. I will still have multiple OS usage through my many rigs in whatever fashion that I dictate.

I am a fanboy of positive and progressive choices. They can keep their stickers to themselves.
 
[quote name='mercilessming']LOL OK how about NON - Console and Mobile Phone based gaming.... this should cover the "anything you can build and put an OS on legally" and the Mac[/QUOTE]

Well, you can actually build your own mobile device - I know it's niche but it can be done and is growing in popularity. Also, since most mobile devices with games are using some form of Linux and/or Windows that you can install yourself - Legally...it's still PC.
 
[quote name='mogamer']A Mac uses the same hardware as a machine that runs Windows or Linux. Say hello to 2006.[/QUOTE]
Really? Where's my Mac OS for Itanium?
 
[quote name='Morrigan Lover']Really? Where's my Mac OS for Itanium?[/QUOTE]

Generally no one is building with Itanium. Itanium is server class. Can't be considered "personal computer".

Xeon chips is where Mac is going. And iCores for everything else.
 
[quote name='Morrigan Lover']Mac OS does what Windon't.[/QUOTE]

LOL It's like 1994 all over again.

Tragic.
 
If you rename it then I would go with "Computer" games. Macs are still computers right? I know how the iphone is an "mobile internet device". So who knows what lame ass marketing has also F'ed up.
 
[quote name='Megazell']So?

Why would you conform with a company label when it is counter productive for consumer self-interest?

They can have as many commercials as they like. I will still have multiple OS usage through my many rigs in whatever fashion that I dictate.

I am a fanboy of positive and progressive choices. They can keep their stickers to themselves.[/QUOTE]

Oh, aren't you so cool refusing to conform to companies labels!

Please, that shit is so high school. The majority of people in America separate the categories into Windows and Mac.

For example, lets take the iPod. The iPod is nothing other than an mp3 player, but the vast majority of the nation differentiates between mp3 players, and iPods.

We can even use one of the biggest gaming websites as a precedent:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/systems.html

Look at the picture above PC. Yup. Windows.

So please, shut up. I'm happy that you refuse to succumb to company's taglines. It's nice to know that your life is complete with this fact and the fact that you made a shitty list compiling free PC games for the masses to ignore. Congrats.
 
Well if you want to get down to it, the name "personal computer" originally was a marketing term basically. Apple just decided not use it like many other companies did, they wanted to differentiate between Apple systems and IBM's PCs and their clones. It's just been turned into an actual category of computer by people who really don't know any better.
 
[quote name='help1']Oh, aren't you so cool refusing to conform to companies labels!

Please, that shit is so high school. The majority of people in America separate the categories into Windows and Mac.

For example, lets take the iPod. The iPod is nothing other than an mp3 player, but the vast majority of the nation differentiates between mp3 players, and iPods.

We can even use one of the biggest gaming websites as a precedent:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/systems.html

Look at the picture above PC. Yup. Windows.

So please, shut up. I'm happy that you refuse to succumb to company's taglines. It's nice to know that your life is complete with this fact and the fact that you made a shitty list compiling free PC games for the masses to ignore. Congrats.[/QUOTE]

Emotional Gamers
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Who cares what the majority does if what they do is not positive or progressive for my own self-interest?

You can stay stuck if you like. But I will be a straight shooter. IPOD is nothing more than an MP3 player. You can wave your corporate flag proudly if you like but in the end - the power is in the consumer choice to agree or not.

PC has no defined OS. Unless I say so.

Shameful.
 
[quote name='Megazell']Emotional Gamers
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Who cares what the majority does if what they do is not positive or progressive for my own self-interest?

You can stay stuck if you like. But I will be a straight shooter. IPOD is nothing more than an MP3 player. You can wave your corporate flag proudly if you like but in the end - the power is in the consumer choice to agree or not.

PC has no defined OS. Unless I say so.

Shameful.[/QUOTE]

LOL. Nonsensical raging from a gamer. Calm down, bro.

Looks like you're stuck being an idiot.

Disgraceful.
 
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I'm going to guess that this is something full of emotions and stalker like troll tactics LOL!
 
[quote name='help1']Oh, aren't you so cool refusing to conform to companies labels!

Please, that shit is so high school. The majority of people in America separate the categories into Windows and Mac.

For example, lets take the iPod. The iPod is nothing other than an mp3 player, but the vast majority of the nation differentiates between mp3 players, and iPods.

We can even use one of the biggest gaming websites as a precedent:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/systems.html

Look at the picture above PC. Yup. Windows.

So please, shut up. I'm happy that you refuse to succumb to company's taglines. It's nice to know that your life is complete with this fact and the fact that you made a shitty list compiling free PC games for the masses to ignore. Congrats.[/QUOTE]

Irrelevant. That just makes the majority of the nation a bunch of idiots who can't distinguish products. Ipod is and remains a mp3 player.

The same applies between whatever machine runs Windows or the Mac OS. Both are PC (Personal Computer).

GFaqs hardly constitutes a standard for definitions...
 
[quote name='gargus']Actually its not wrong, but you are.

PC stands for personal computer. A mac is a computer, so is a linux box and so is one running windows 7. A computer is just a inanimate object. Its a box with a processors, a hard drive, ram, a video card, a sound card, some sort of input device, and motherboard hooking them all together and display screen and I hate to break it to you but macs and windows machines both have all that stuff so they are indeed both computers that can be personally owned by a person thus making them personal computers.

Its only been split up as pc and mac by users unofficially because like I said a computer is just a computer and personal means its one for everyday use and owned by a individual and not a database machine or gateway used at a business.

Thats like trying to argue that a whopper and a big mac are completely different and nothing alike. While true they are different but they are still both hamburgers.

The only reason the two are differentiated by people is because of fanboys and computer snobs. Windows users acted like a bunch of hooting dickholes and outwardly make fun of mac users because there are more windows users, mac users on the other hand turn their noses up in general because they are of a higher class of computers users that are to self important to be caught using a mac. So both groups instead of just acting like computer users have unofficially made the two phrases 2 different things when really they arent because like I said a computer is a computer.[/QUOTE]

Way to miss the common vernacular with your technically correct post. In the comman parlance, A PC runs Windows, and a Mac runs OSX (and/or Windows, but that's another story LOL). Anybody that called their Mac a PC would be laughed at, and anyone who said they were using iMovie on their PC would be greeted with "lolwut?".

So, to recap: you're not wrong, technically, but you are definitely not right.
 
[quote name='plong']Way to miss the common vernacular with your technically correct post. In the comman parlance, A PC runs Windows, and a Mac runs OSX (and/or Windows, but that's another story LOL). Anybody that called their Mac a PC would be laughed at, and anyone who said they were using iMovie on their PC would be greeted with "lolwut?".[/QUOTE]

Then what do I call a desktop or laptop that can dual boot a Windows OS and a Mac OS?
 
[quote name='Draekon']Then what do I call a desktop or laptop that can dual boot a Windows OS and a Mac OS?[/QUOTE]

Does it have a big apple on the side?
If it's a Mac, you call it a Mac.
If not, it's a home-made frankencomputer that you should treat kindly so it doesn't murder people ;)
 
[quote name='Draekon']Then what do I call a desktop or laptop that can dual boot a Windows OS and a Mac OS?[/QUOTE]

It's called a Papple.

I really didn't think CAGs could be this fucking dense. A PC is a personal computer and that's the end of that, really. The forum name won't change either, so there's no point in arguing.
 
[quote name='KingDox']If you rename it then I would go with "Computer" games. Macs are still computers right? I know how the iphone is an "mobile internet device". So who knows what lame ass marketing has also F'ed up.[/QUOTE]

This is the best idea out of the entire thread. Why are people with Macs so defensive of their computers?
 
[quote name='docvinh']This is the best idea out of the entire thread. Why are people with Macs so defensive of their computers?[/QUOTE]

I think they are so use to corporate rape that they suffer from a mutant form of Stockholm syndrome where they feel they must defend their purchase at all cost.
 
... I'm just happy that my fiance is playing Portal on her dust-covered iMac (bought it strickly for Final Cut projects while at school, and she graduated 6 months ago).
 
[quote name='Megazell']I'm going to guess that this is something full of emotions and stalker like troll tactics LOL![/QUOTE]

LOL a raging stalker troll calling me a an emotional stalker troll

Okkkkkkkkkk retard

But hey, I can still say all the shit I want now and it'll still be responded to! I still win!
 
[quote name='docvinh']Why are people with Macs so defensive of their computers?[/QUOTE]

Because Mac users = elitist assholes. This is common knowledge. :D
 
[quote name='Nogib']Because Mac users = elitist assholes. This is common knowledge. :D[/QUOTE]

Gross generalization YAY!

Fact: It is impossible to have a civilized and informative Mac vs. Windows discussion on the internet.
 
This argument pops up on nearly every website that dedicates itself (fully or in small part) to computers.

The term "personal computer" technically covers both Windows and Mac machines. Again, technically.

However, nearly everybody assumes PC = Windows, and that that's not a Mac. Both companies want you to perceive them this way. It's embedded at this point.

So, why the fuck is there such bickering over something so stupid? Either leave it the way it is, or put PC/Mac in the title.
 
Slightly off topic but interesting, it is "rumored/expected" that Ballmer will come out during Steve Jobs speech at WDC, and state that Visual Studio 2010 will be building native code for OSx and IPhone....Guess the "OLD Dogs" are trying again to reunite to fight the tide that is Google.. I don't see anything about if this is plugin/template for windows VS or a visual studio for Mac, or they are making the .NET framework cross platform much like Java.....
 
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