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#4081 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:31 PM

BioWare announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut

BioWare has announced the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut, a free download for PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 that addresses the controversial ending of the game.
It provides "additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes" to the ending, and launches this summer.
The Extended Cut is designed to give players "seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes", BioWare said.
BioWare boss Ray Muzyka commented: "We are all incredibly proud of Mass Effect 3 and the work done by Casey Hudson and team.
"Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding. With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe."
Executive producer Casey Hudson added: "We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player."


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#4082 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:57 PM

What I am hoping for:

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#4083 Action!   bwip CAGiversary!   7298 Posts   Joined 6.5 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:05 PM

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I was more or less fine with how shit ended, but I'll never argue with them expanding on things.

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#4084 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:10 PM

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#4085 Action!   bwip CAGiversary!   7298 Posts   Joined 6.5 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:21 PM

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#4086 Ink.So.Well.   Well.Went.Wild. CAGiversary!   3020 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:22 PM

Well... at least it's free. If these "explanations" aren't up to snuff however then I'm selling my game. A shame because it has the only version of horde I can stomach for more than 1 hour, but it's pointless to keep playing when I'm not comfortable buying any DLC even for longevity's sake. I'm pretty close to taking a break from the mode anyway out of boredom.

 

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#4087 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:26 PM

I'm pretty close to taking a break from the mode anyway out of boredom.

I still need like 500 kills for Veteran. Debating whether to play some more multi or just import my "everyone died" ME2 character into ME3 for grins.

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#4088 Ink.So.Well.   Well.Went.Wild. CAGiversary!   3020 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

You might as well do an "EVERYBODY GETS/GOT F*CKING SHOT" playthrough. I still haven't finished mine with my Engineer yet. Tried to earlier this week, realized how pointless it was and headed straight back to MP. Bad enough the game decided not to acknowledge the other saves I had in that profile so none of the DLC counted.
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#4089 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:50 PM

Mine is an Engineer too. It was actually my ME2 Insanity playthrough and I had done the minimum number of missions possible. :lol: Almost nobody was loyal and the only survivors were Zaeed, Grunt, and Jack, presumably because they're so hardcore.

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#4090 Spybreak9   $exy Game Scholar CAGiversary!   7337 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:53 PM

BioWare announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut

Wahoo, glad to see it's free, these are probably the edits that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters decided to cut in the end. Yes yes, people do need to know what happened and screw that speculation theory. Kind of sad to see
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I'll see more when I play through it though.

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I was more or less fine with how shit ended, but I'll never argue with them expanding on things.


Kudos to Bioware, I know not many other developers out there that would go this route, well maybe a select few lol (I'm thinking of Valve, Bethesda and Gearbox in particular) but yeah I think this is one of the right moves. Seriously though if Bioware did something akin to an Animal House ending like this fan created one, I would be happy:


What I am hoping for:

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As for me I'm def looking for those and
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#4091 zewone   Thursday CAGiversary!   43156 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:54 PM

I think the way they're handling the ending DLC is the best way. Further clarification (for free) is probably the only viable solution for them without losing integrity and without further pissing off it's fan base. I do wish it was arriving sooner.

#4092 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:05 PM

Seriously though if Bioware did something akin to an Animal House ending like this fan created one, I would be happy:

That is hysterical. Sidebar with the Justicar!

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#4093 JustYourAverageJoe   Dances With Deals CAGiversary!   1278 Posts   Joined 6.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:08 PM

I think the way they're handling the ending DLC is the best way. Further clarification (for free) is probably the only viable solution for them without losing integrity and without further pissing off it's fan base. I do wish it was arriving sooner.

They lost integrity when they fundamentally altered the story and the player's understanding of the universe by releasing DLC. To me, any change to the ending would be comparable, and in no way a compromise of "artistic integrity." If they're willing to release commercial content that alters the game in such an important way, then they lose the right to claim further edits would be harmful. That's a double standard.

Anyways, this is going to amount to a few extra scenes that had been cut (likely due to reasons of time) added back, and some narrative VO. Nothing too substantial, unless they bring back the main VO cast before summer, and that seems unlikely. Who knows, though.
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#4094 Ink.So.Well.   Well.Went.Wild. CAGiversary!   3020 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:11 PM

Spy - Yeah... I was about to say Valve and Bethesda wouldn't bat a single eyelash at doing this sort of thing. The latter especially given how well received Broken Steel was for Fallout. Speaking of which... WHERE IS MAH FALLOUT 4 I HAVE MONEYS TO GIVE YOU! D;

Ryu - LOL. Only Grunt and Zaeed survived my Ultra Renegade Sheploo Soldier playthrough. I only did maybe 1 - 2 loyalty missions for XP sake (Miranda still died lulz) and ZERO ship upgrades. It was a damn massacre. I still have NO IDEA how either of those bums survived. I worked so hard trying to kill everyone.

This female version is more Paragade Light but I've still killed or gotten a plenty of characters killed
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since I don't plan on importing my other profiles. It was so satisfying
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I did the galaxy a favor. I hated that guy.

 

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#4095 Arikado   ...Like Clockwork CAGiversary!   1483 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:17 PM

I am honestly shocked about this. I am cautiously optimistic. It's a step in the right direction, but man, it is going to take a ton of explanation to cover up those massive plot holes introduced by the ending. Since it's due out in the summer, I wonder if these new scenes will be fully voiced. I hope so. Closure for the squad and crew deserves it.

I don't see how they can fully repair the damage done to the themes and the story by the
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, but at least this is better than nothing, I guess. Looking forward to more information in the future.

#4096 Ink.So.Well.   Well.Went.Wild. CAGiversary!   3020 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

Honestly I don't think they can pull it off, but if they can then I'll gladly support them via DLC. This WILL however be my last ME game regardless of the presentation or genre. Between this and the Retribution novel (which BioWare IMMEDIATELY apologized for due to fan outcry, disregarded it as a non-canon affair and promised there would be a REVISED version released to the public in the future) I won't be taking another gamble on this franchise again. The faith from both a fan/gamer and customer buying a product perspective is gone. Once you've successfully pissed off both I'm done with you.

I'm still not sure how I feel about Dragon Age. I didn't mind the second game that much, but I miss Origins and didn't appreciate how quickly their team bashed fans for hating it. I might check out the third game. I might just call it quits with the company period. *shrug*

 

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#4097 KrizB   Flrying into FWEE! CAGiversary!   762 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:43 PM

Guess we're getting the Fallout/Dragon Age ending text with pictures afterall.

Wonder if the outrage would have been just as bad if they did that in the first place?

#4098 JustYourAverageJoe   Dances With Deals CAGiversary!   1278 Posts   Joined 6.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:43 PM

The timing of the announcement amuses me the most, actually. No doubt they've had this planned for a while, but announcing it now they can hope to defuse the worst of the tension that they would've faced at PAX. I'm not sure how well that'll work though.
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#4099 AvengedBacklog   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   12604 Posts   Joined 5.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

Well,
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#4100 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

The timing of the announcement amuses me the most, actually. No doubt they've had this planned for a while, but announcing it now they can hope to defuse the worst of the tension that they would've faced at PAX. I'm not sure how well that'll work though.

Yup, I would bet a dollar that any and all questions regarding the ending are quickly shut down with a "Oh, we already made our announcement yesterday, that fully addresses all concerns and answers all questions. Next!"

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#4101 HydroX   Quintessential Studmuffin CAGiversary!   7174 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

I could give a shit less about the ending. I'm just pissed that no matter how many Spectre packs I buy, I can't unlock a Krogan (in either class) in MP to save my damn life. I've given up and decided to try the BF3 Soldier, which is surprisingly better than I thought it would be.

#4102 Spybreak9   $exy Game Scholar CAGiversary!   7337 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:57 PM

Yup I still have a ME2 import idling in dark space where I initially killed off everyone in my squad (man that was a tough thing to do/shocked me even knowing it would happen). However
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#4103 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:02 PM

On my Renegade fem Shep character, Jacob was the only squadmate from ME2 who died. I think Marian Hawke is probably better off Forever Alone than with Jacob as a baby daddy, so I call that a win.

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#4104 MSUHitman   Checkmate Arcade Co-Host CAGiversary!   13400 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:02 PM

Eh Feedback takes on the ending, that's all I have to say about this. I thought they should have talked about

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Thanks I'll not listen to Feedback this week then. Talking about the ending & not talking about the S.I. Theory would just infuriate me.

#4105 100xp   Blizzard Spy CAGiversary!   4208 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:09 PM

speaking of packs, i actually havent gotten any of the event packs yet...i know the community ones are on hold until they correct the problem but i'm a bit concerned i didnt get the one for promoting lvl 20's yet.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:17 PM

I like their approach to fleshing out the ending. Plus its free (viva la cheapassedness!). My only concern is how this will impact the dlc schedule. I'm already ready for MP dlc like right now and I hope it doesn't push additional story content to the cancel pile like what happened with the DA2 expansion.

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#4107 JustYourAverageJoe   Dances With Deals CAGiversary!   1278 Posts   Joined 6.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:18 PM

Thanks I'll not listen to Feedback this week then. Talking about the ending & not talking about the S.I. Theory would just infuriate me.

It's still worth a listen. It was one of the more civil discussions on the topic, and they avoided mocking people who didn't like the ending. Some good points from both sides.

I still can't believe people believe the Indoctrination theory. Is it really that hard to conceive poor writing can cause enough plot holes for a new thread to weave through? The epilogue seems to imply only deleted scenes and some extra storytelling, not gameplay. If Indoctrination theory was true, I'd expect a lot more substantial ending to follow. Not an epilogue.
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#4108 Ryuukishi   What a lovely day!! CAGiversary!   10815 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:27 PM

The thing that gets me about Indoctrination Theory is, if you assume it's true, then we go from a game trilogy with a poorly conceived and written ending to a game trilogy with absolutely no ending at all, in any sense. That's supposed to be better?

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#4109 Ink.So.Well.   Well.Went.Wild. CAGiversary!   3020 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:42 PM

speaking of packs, i actually havent gotten any of the event packs yet...i know the community ones are on hold until they correct the problem but i'm a bit concerned i didnt get the one for promoting lvl 20's yet.


Actually the hold has been placed on both packs. People have reported receiving neither of them or just the one Victory since BioWare had the glitch reported to them. No idea when they'll fix it.

 

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#4110 100xp   Blizzard Spy CAGiversary!   4208 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:48 PM

Actually the hold has been placed on both packs. People have reported receiving neither of them or just the one Victory since BioWare had the glitch reported to them. No idea when they'll fix it.


word. that's fine. sort dat #$% out so I can smack some enemies w/my nu gunz that will no doubt be obsolete after a few more spectre packs.

i got a premium spectre pack last night, no claymore ironically but I did get a some gold card shotgun that I'll never use, a falcon (not bad), and salarian infiltrator...again. Hopefully I broke the cycle and i'll finally get some wpns I want.