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#9541 AvengedBacklog   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   8370 Posts   Joined 3.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:18 PM

You sure? I could have sworn all of the early videos about it said it was a trilogy from the start.

They did.  Hell, I remember reading an article in OXM when the game was first being talked about and they said it would be a trilogy.


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#9542 xtreme_Zr2   Mr. Sonny Crockett CAGiversary!   901 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 02:25 AM

They did. Hell, I remember reading an article in OXM when the game was first being talked about and they said it would be a trilogy.


Shepherd's story/canon was always written as a triology. But I dont think Mass Effect was ever meant to only be a triology - EA will bleed any franchise dry.

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#9543 chubbyninja1319   There has been an awakening. CAGiversary!   4373 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Dragon Age: Inquisition
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:30 AM

And I will be one of the first in line to bask in said bleeding.  EA isn't as bad as everyone wants to make them out to be.  This franchise is in the hands of a great studio and has a damn good publisher. 


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#9544 xtreme_Zr2   Mr. Sonny Crockett CAGiversary!   901 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:30 AM

And I will be one of the first in line to bask in said bleeding.  EA isn't as bad as everyone wants to make them out to be.  This franchise is in the hands of a great studio and has a damn good publisher. 

I'm 100% with you Chubby, until they make Mass Effect: Hardline.

 

BF4 has scarred me for life. Call me gunshy of EA.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:48 AM

Okay, I have to agree with that.  If they start to shamelessly milk it, I'll just have to keep looking at the Trilogy and pretend the other stuff doesn't exist.  But, honestly, I was trying to think of a horrible scenario, like Mass Accelerator Kart Racing or a Sims like friend simulator thing....and every scenario I came up with I thought "nah, I'd play that if it was ME related". 

 

The morale of the story is that I'm hopeless. 


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#9546 Phokal   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   285 Posts   Joined 8.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:34 PM

That's because you are assuming "good" or at least "average" or "working" products. When EA even stumbles publishing Titanfall (see patch notes for the things they are adding in after it was rushed out), I'm going to be cautious.

 

It's unfortunate, because EA publishes things that look thematically appealing to me. But the multi-year trend of technical quality and microtransaction management for everything they touch (develop in house or help publish) have made me pessimistic. 

 

Okay, I have to agree with that.  If they start to shamelessly milk it, I'll just have to keep looking at the Trilogy and pretend the other stuff doesn't exist.  But, honestly, I was trying to think of a horrible scenario, like Mass Accelerator Kart Racing or a Sims like friend simulator thing....and every scenario I came up with I thought "nah, I'd play that if it was ME related". 

 

The morale of the story is that I'm hopeless. 



#9547 chubbyninja1319   There has been an awakening. CAGiversary!   4373 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Dragon Age: Inquisition
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 02:56 PM

I have to disagree with you on this.  Sure, they fumbled BF4 and Titanfall has had a few tweaks post release.  But, overall they're no worse than any other publisher and I think they have microtransactions figured out just right.  Heck even look at PvZ Garden Warfare or Titanfall for a solid argument that EA is better at DLC than most publishers. 


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#9548 Ryuukishi   Come with me if you want to not die CAGiversary!   9723 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:30 PM

I also kind of don't understand the hate against EA. I don't feel like they are notably better/worse than Activision or Ubisoft when it comes to gaffes and debacles and there seems to be a flavor-of-the-month thing going on where next it's going to be Ubisoft that everyone loves to rip on and then it'll be Activision's turn again and so on. Whatever, I just buy the games from the series I like despite whatever internet people are screaming about this week, and if EA or whoever else happens to be the publisher of that series then it is what it is.


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#9549 RBK  

Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:43 PM

It's the popular thing to do in gaming.



#9550 xtreme_Zr2   Mr. Sonny Crockett CAGiversary!   901 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:08 AM

I have to disagree with you on this. Sure, they fumbled BF4 and Titanfall has had a few tweaks post release. But, overall they're no worse than any other publisher and I think they have microtransactions figured out just right. Heck even look at PvZ Garden Warfare or Titanfall for a solid argument that EA is better at DLC than most publishers.

Agreed on the micro transactions. I would be embarrassed to know how much real money I spent on the ME3MP. (I still sucked anyway!).

My hatred of EA is not the flavor of the week or "the cool thing in gaming". BF4 broke my buddy's Xbox due to the insane amount of freezing. BF3 was terrible at first but got patched into one of the best mp shooters ever (IMO). And do I have to mention the Extended Cut? All they do is rush the developers to put out an unfinished project and will patch it later. Terrible.

I won't say anything else about it. I promise I'm not trying to troll this thread, just stating that Id rather stop at the trilogy than play some half baked ME side story that doesn't do it justice. I'd prefer to keep my thoughts about Jack...pure :).

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#9551 Phokal   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   285 Posts   Joined 8.4 Years Ago  

Posted 10 July 2014 - 03:35 PM

It's not like these companies are static.  Battlefield Bad Company 2 (EA) introduced "Buy New/Project $10", where it's online pass included *all* of the maps as a reward for customers who bought new instead of used. Ubisoft generally bundles all of its disparate preorder DLC into a megabundle near the end of the schedule, so everyone gets everything if they want.  These positive instances are just becoming increasingly rare examples.

 

I don't want to derail this thread but I've got to conject that EA, Ubi, and Activision aren't the only publishers/developers out there.  Valve, Bethesda, CDProject Red, 2k, TakeTwo/Rockstar, and smaller guys like Paradox, Deep Silver, Devolver Digital generally do "similar but better" business practices (despite technical hiccups here and there, as no one's perfect).  Even Microsoft and Sony generally have more consumer friendly DLC practices with their 1st party titles, where most DLC content is not hypothesized to be anything other than totally optional or additive.

 

A lot of this stuff used to be "free" to build customer loyalty. Half-life 1 was 'promised' to have TF2 as it's multiplayer mode. When it didn't ship with it, people were upset, but Valve eventually patched in Team Deathmatch, Team Fortress Classic, more maps, Ricochet. All part of the license you initially purchased, and all before Valve even had "Steam money" to fall back on. Unreal Tournament 2k4 had free Official Community Map packs that contained hundreds of maps, officially integrated into servers.

 

ME3 multiplayer's microtransaction scheme was the best, optional tip jar I've seen. However, if you see where they've extended it in BF4, you'll be pessimistic of how optional or cheap it'll be in ME4. Titanfall's lack of profile naming or private matches are relatively minor, but it's just one more title in a long line including things like Spore, SimCity, Battlefield 3 and 4, Dragon Age 2 (DLC was cancelled due to lack of popularity), Dead Space 3 (which had a coin doubler), PvZ2, etc (http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games). They had a real bright spot back in 2008-2010 with great titles and practices, but it's diminishing.

 

It's not a flavor of the month to hate EA. It's a disappointment in the last decade if you've been following all of their work.

 

And with that, I cross my fingers *really hard* that ME4 turns out ok.



#9552 gotdott   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2302 Posts   Joined 4.1 Years Ago  

Posted 10 July 2014 - 05:33 PM

It's not like these companies are static.  Battlefield Bad Company 2 (EA) introduced "Buy New/Project $10", where it's online pass included *all* of the maps as a reward for customers who bought new instead of used. Ubisoft generally bundles all of its disparate preorder DLC into a megabundle near the end of the schedule, so everyone gets everything if they want.  These positive instances are just becoming increasingly rare examples.

 

I don't want to derail this thread but I've got to conject that EA, Ubi, and Activision aren't the only publishers/developers out there.  Valve, Bethesda, CDProject Red, 2k, TakeTwo/Rockstar, and smaller guys like Paradox, Deep Silver, Devolver Digital generally do "similar but better" business practices (despite technical hiccups here and there, as no one's perfect).  Even Microsoft and Sony generally have more consumer friendly DLC practices with their 1st party titles, where most DLC content is not hypothesized to be anything other than totally optional or additive.

 

A lot of this stuff used to be "free" to build customer loyalty. Half-life 1 was 'promised' to have TF2 as it's multiplayer mode. When it didn't ship with it, people were upset, but Valve eventually patched in Team Deathmatch, Team Fortress Classic, more maps, Ricochet. All part of the license you initially purchased, and all before Valve even had "Steam money" to fall back on. Unreal Tournament 2k4 had free Official Community Map packs that contained hundreds of maps, officially integrated into servers.

 

ME3 multiplayer's microtransaction scheme was the best, optional tip jar I've seen. However, if you see where they've extended it in BF4, you'll be pessimistic of how optional or cheap it'll be in ME4. Titanfall's lack of profile naming or private matches are relatively minor, but it's just one more title in a long line including things like Spore, SimCity, Battlefield 3 and 4, Dragon Age 2 (DLC was cancelled due to lack of popularity), Dead Space 3 (which had a coin doubler), PvZ2, etc (http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games). They had a real bright spot back in 2008-2010 with great titles and practices, but it's diminishing.

 

It's not a flavor of the month to hate EA. It's a disappointment in the last decade if you've been following all of their work.

 

And with that, I cross my fingers *really hard* that ME4 turns out ok.

I didn't find anything wrong with BF4 or PVZ2 - they're still the same optional tip jars they were in ME3



#9553 chubbyninja1319   There has been an awakening. CAGiversary!   4373 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Dragon Age: Inquisition
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Posted 19 July 2014 - 12:44 AM

Heres a good video that lists the 7 greatest renegade interrupts in the series. It's fun seeing these again.

http://www.outsidexb...enegade-moments

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#9554 chubbyninja1319   There has been an awakening. CAGiversary!   4373 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Dragon Age: Inquisition
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 02:17 AM

Okay, this is cool...



By the way, I will never let this thread die.

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#9555 Action!   bwip CAGiversary!   6298 Posts   Joined 4.9 Years Ago  

Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:19 PM

By the way, I will never let this thread die.

HOLD THE LINE


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Posted 26 July 2014 - 07:58 PM

the Mass Effect panel at SDCC is today (I think in an hour). Wonder what they'll show.



#9557 chubbyninja1319   There has been an awakening. CAGiversary!   4373 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Dragon Age: Inquisition
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Posted 26 July 2014 - 10:20 PM

It is, 2pm Pacific. Fingers crossed for something of substance.

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#9558 chubbyninja1319   There has been an awakening. CAGiversary!   4373 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Dragon Age: Inquisition
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 01:21 AM

New ME-Next deets from the panel at SDCC!

 

Link to Game Informer: http://www.gameinfor...fect-panel.aspx

 

Words from article:

 

 

BioWare's San Diego Comic Con panel "Charting a Course: Developing the Next Mass Effect" is underway, and a few details have trickled out onto Twitter. The panelists are a mix of developers from Bioware's Edmonton and Montreal Studios. Carl Boulay (lead animator), Mike Gamble (producer), Noel Lukasewich (senior artist), Fabrice Condominas (producer), and Jessica Merizan (community manager) are giving fans in attendance a few new details, including a first look at the new Mako in action.

Twitter user Nerd Appropriate, snapped a few shots during the panel (pictured above and below) which show the Mako and various angles of the new N7 armor. Twitter user SuperNerdMe also snapped a shot of male and female hero models (which you can see below).

 

More info found on NEOGAF:

 

Details:
-The Mako is back, they showed video of it, and there are images of it below. It's apparently quite fast now.
-"Building a game about exploring places, so you need a vehicle for that "
-"We learned some things about vehicle frustration"
-"Sounds like the timeline of #MassEffect will be during Shepard's lifetime but won't involve Shepard...hard to tell @GambleMike being cagey!" [Note: Two other tweeters said it sounds like it takes place in another galaxy, though that's not necessarily mutually exclusive with this.]
-"Team reiterates that it is not Shepard's story and that this story one is brand new."
-"no timeline was announced at the panel. Some hints were made but I have to re-listen to the audio."
-"You will see a bit of old with the new (old characters MAY appear) "
-"Competition is critical but cooperation is bigger for us" @GambleMike speaking on multiplayer in #MassEffect / "cooperative MP is bigger for us (than competitive)"
-"Spiritual successor" vibe for the next
-"It's ingrained in us to give players as much choice as possible" - @GambleMike #MassEffect
-"The animation team is now doing stuff we couldn't even dream about before" speaking on Frostbite 3 for #MassEffect
-"it's not called ME 4 damn it! " [I'm going to keep calling it that until they give it a name.]
-No announcements on player race choice of composers when asked

-"Seems strongly implied that new Mass Effect will be set in totally different galaxy, but will contain familiar elements.
-"Not playing as Shepherd, and Shepherd is not important to story - new uncharted areas. #SDCC"
-"Mako is back in Mass Effect! More agile, no cannon. #SDCC"
-"New Mass Effect is focused on exploration of planets, Mako is meant to be fast travel on them. #SDCC"
-[Note]: Nerd Appropriate (one of the original tweeters) also said it sounded like another galaxy but they need to double check their audio recording.

 

Images:

Spoiler


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#9559 Ryuukishi   Come with me if you want to not die CAGiversary!   9723 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 03:12 AM

Wow, nice infodump. Still can't believe they haven't even given the game a proper name yet.

 

Would a different galaxy mean no humans? Is there any mention in the existing ME games about humans colonizing other galaxies?


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#9560 xtreme_Zr2   Mr. Sonny Crockett CAGiversary!   901 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 12:43 PM

Thanks Chubby.

REALLY pumped about coop multiplayer coming back!

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 03:23 PM

I'm really happy we get a new Mako and the return of co-op multiplayer.  They are throwing me off with the idea of a concurrent story to Shepard's, especially with talk of a different galaxy yet (seemingly) N7 designated humans and the possibility of returning characters. 

 

My one hope is that this isn't an alternate universe kinda deal.


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#9562 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   19512 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:06 PM

I'm guessing it's going to be an MMO shooter? Sure sounds like a something MMO... 


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#9563 Ryuukishi   Come with me if you want to not die CAGiversary!   9723 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:15 PM

I'm guessing it's going to be an MMO shooter? Sure sounds like a something MMO... 

 

God I hope not. Not that that couldn't be a fun game but it's not Mass Effect.


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#9564 RBK  

Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:20 PM

Just picked this up at GameStop, so I can finally give it a chance.

 

All the ending crap turned me off from the game at release.



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:24 PM

Just picked this up at GameStop, so I can finally give it a chance.

 

All the ending crap turned me off from the game at release.

 

Despite not being quite as great as ME2 in my opinion, it's a great game, and the ending is much less abrupt and confusing since they added the Extended Cut DLC.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:47 PM

I'm really happy we get a new Mako and the return of co-op multiplayer.  They are throwing me off with the idea of a concurrent story to Shepard's, especially with talk of a different galaxy yet (seemingly) N7 designated humans and the possibility of returning characters. 

 

My one hope is that this isn't an alternate universe kinda deal.

 

Wasn't N7 purely a human military designation?  That would indicate that our hero for ME-not-4 is human.  From what was posted above, I could see this as squad out on a Star Trek style mission to explore new worlds type of story that is concurent with Shepard's saga.




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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:13 PM

Video of the ME4 Mako driving around:

 


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:35 PM

Can games still be found online for ME3 or are the servers dead now? I have been thinking about playing on the 360 again.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:57 AM

Video of the ME4 Mako driving around:

Whoa, looks like the Mako will finally be able to break double digit MPH! 

 

I'm glad to see they're bringing it back, though.  The ability to explore planets and do so freely across open surfaces really made the first game seem massive to me.  It's something I really missed in the sequels.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:36 AM

I watched the video from the Escapist and read pretty much everything I could find online about the panel and one thing stood out more than any other....and it's crystal clear in the video of the Mako....this game is YEARS off.  I was betting on a Fall 2015 release and that's probably an unrealistic expectation. 


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