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The Texas budget is in big trouble. Any thoughts from conservatives?


#271 UncleBob  

Posted 06 June 2017 - 04:55 AM

http://economy.money...richard-fisher/

I giggled.

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 04:21 PM

It's funny to see Rauner (who is such a terrible governor anyway) get so much crap for this... as if the state wasn't in dire straights before he took over or something.

That's what happens when you promise to fix something and instead make it worse.

 

Meanwhile, in Kansas, the Republican-dominated state legislature overturns a veto from Gov. Brownback and is rolling back Brownback's disastrous tax cuts, citing deep budget shortfalls, a lack of promised economic growth, degradation of state services and generally deeming the Great Conservative Tax Experiment a failure.



#273 UncleBob  

Posted 11 June 2017 - 06:36 PM

http://www.politico....239384?cmpid=sf

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 04:47 PM

Yeah, Rauner is likely screwed.  He has accomplished absolutely nothing towards fixing the state finances, has held up budgets for his pet conservative causes (that are non-budget related) and whining "But Madigan..." isn't going to help when he's on a statewide ballot and Madigan only has to run in his district.  Governor Rauner is a plain embarrassment.

 

Hell, Blagojevich was arguably a more effective governor.  You know, until he was arrested and stuff.



#275 UncleBob  

Posted 12 June 2017 - 11:31 PM

I think it's time to break up the state. :/

Madigan has no business being reelected (but will be) and Rauner can't be shown the door fast enough.

#276 UncleBob  

Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:44 PM

http://www.chicagotr...620-column.html pretty bad when the Chicago Tribune suggests just killing the state altogether.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:17 PM

http://www.chicagotr...620-column.html pretty bad when the Chicago Tribune suggests just killing the state altogether.

I left almost two years ago and didn't look back. However, since the shift is off TX right now, just how bad is it down there? My GF and I are weighing options of places to move and Austin is one of the top picks as a center for creative talents. Just how bad/good are things down there?



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Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:13 PM

http://www.chicagotr...620-column.html pretty bad when the Chicago Tribune suggests just killing the state altogether.

You confuse Kass with "the Tribune".

 

He does make me miss the days of Royko though.  There was a guy who could write satire.



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 09:45 PM

The Illinois House just over rode Rauner's veto two days after the Senate did the same, giving Illinois its first budget package in three years.



#280 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7124 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 11:43 PM

Thanks Republicans. https://www.economis...ts-are-shutting



#281 UncleBob  

Posted 09 July 2017 - 06:19 AM

Yay more tax increases for Illinois - but no notable efforts to reign in spending of any kind.

 

That worked out really well the last time we did it.

 

This thread will be interesting in four years (Hint, it won't take four years).



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Posted 10 July 2017 - 02:46 PM

Eh, taxes are at the same place they were in 2014.  There's spending cuts in the budget but I'll decline to quibble over "notable".

 

More to the point, Rauner's failed leadership took us down to the final brink so a triage budget is what we get.



#283 Donken   President & CEO CAGiversary!   3603 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 July 2017 - 05:49 PM

I just had to pay $600 to register my car in my blue state. It used to be about $50 in my old red state I moved from. Democrat states suck. The gas here is taxed like crazy too.

#284 sasquatc4   CAG in Limbo CAGiversary!   1724 Posts   Joined 6.5 Years Ago  

Posted 15 July 2017 - 08:07 PM

yea, except annecdotes do not represent a situation as a whole, its fairly random the distribution of cheap flat rate vs. weight/age/other options that make it expensive

http://www.ncsl.org/...s-by-state.aspx

 

i.e. value based is one of the worst, and thats what we have, but it takes into account depreciation until you hit a flat rate, but thats also in a bunch of red states



#285 UncleBob  

Posted 16 July 2017 - 05:55 AM

Eh, taxes are at the same place they were in 2014.


Yup. When they were supposed to be temporary increases to fix the state's problems. That worked well.

More to the point, Rauner's failed leadership took us down to the final brink so a triage budget is what we get.


Rauner's failed leadership was just the second-in-command taking control of a ship that was already sinking when the captain died, then sitting on his hands and watching it sink.

At this point, someone should run for governor on the platform of dissolving the state and refusing to sign any bill that isn't that.

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 02:33 PM

State governments are shutting down more often, following the lead of the Republicans in the Swamp. It's a good thing the President is here to drain it!



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 02:47 PM

Rauner's failed leadership was just the second-in-command taking control of a ship that was already sinking when the captain died, then sitting on his hands and watching it sink.

Well, no argument that Rauner just sat on his hands and did nothing to help the state, going so far as to actively fight against efforts if they didn't include pet causes.

 

That is, of course, the very definition of "Failed leadership".



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 02:55 PM

I just had to pay $600 to register my car in my blue state. It used to be about $50 in my old red state I moved from. Democrat states suck. The gas here is taxed like crazy too.

It's $101 here in the Land of Lincoln.  Flat rate regardless of vehicle age or vehicle type.  For passenger vehicles anyway; I've never had to buy a plate sticker for a semi or a dump truck.

 

Gas tax is a percentage like sales tax.  Which is a problem when gas prices drop since the state gets less money for roads despite the fact that people aren't actually driving less.  Of course, when prices were $4+ they get more but then you get politicians calling for a suspension of the gas tax as relief so the coffers never really overflow.



#289 UncleBob  

Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:35 AM

http://www.bnd.com/o...e174796016.html

The upside of dysfunction seems to be that if you allow a two-year budget impasse, if you let your deadbeat pile of bills grow from $6.6 billion in 2014 to $16 billion today, and if you ignore pension obligations until they are in a $130 billion hole, then all that will lead to frustration. In fact, it leads to enough frustration to make you want to get out.


http://www.politifac...ing-act-ongoin/

Gov. Bruce Rauner said Illinois’ current operating budget is "is more than $1 billion out of balance…" [...] Some of the assumptions identified as sources of the trouble originated in Rauner’s own budget, a fact that Rauner does not acknowledge and that needs to be considered here. Whether or not the imbalance reaches more than $1 billion is debatable, but Rauner is correct that there remains much work to do. We rate his statement Mostly True.


https://www.reuters....n-idUSKCN1BU242

Illinois’ pile of unpaid bills topped $16 billion for the first time as the state deals with the fallout of an unprecedented two straight fiscal years without complete budgets, the state comptroller’s office reported on Tuesday.

The bill backlog is growing despite the enactment of a fiscal 2018 spending plan and income tax increase in July that ended a budget impasse between Illinois’ Republican governor and Democrats who control the legislature.


https://www.ilnews.o...02933cf0f0.html

Cities that are more dependent on local sales tax revenues will be the most affected, and one of the few other alternatives for cities might be to raise property taxes, he said.



So... how is Texas doing? The mighty Democrats overrode Evil Rauner's veto and now the state of Illinois is outperforming all expectations...

#290 UncleBob  

Posted 05 October 2018 - 10:25 PM

I wonder if anyone is watching the Illinois Governor's race. It's an epic shitstorm. A billionaire running against a millionaire to take a job that pays less than $200k/year running a broke-ass state.

And the Democratic candidate did the same thing Trump did, downplaying the value of his property to get out of paying taxes, but hey, He's a Democrat in Illinois... if that's the worst he's done, then we're moving up!