Armenian Genocide Bill in France

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/17/france-armenia-genocide-bill_n_1155299.html?ref=world

History is riling up the Turks again as France moves to make denial of the Ottoman Empire's destruction of the Armenians a crime on the same level as Holocaust Denial.

On the one hand, I don't feel it's right for people to be prosecuted as criminals for being woefully, tragically misinformed for the sake of their ethnic pride. (Furthermore, this denial isn't an idea they latched on to because they hate Armenians. It's been taught to them as true history since birth, a historical fallacy that became fact for a people.)
I suppose a similar bill in America would be making it a crime to deny slavery or the wars and injustices against the native Americans, or maybe making trutherism or birtherism a crime. Unless there are threats, violence or incitement to violence in their denials, education is the best forward.

While it's certainly satisfying on the face of it to see Turkey again challenged on its tragically ahistorical and heartless denial of the Ottoman Empire's treatment of Anatolia's minorities (and by a big player like France), this seems ultimately counterproductive to me. Being called the children of genocidaires by outsiders (and by a country with a history as checkered as France's) is likely to lead to a bunker mentality that will make it even harder for them to look clearly at the past, and make it easier for them deal resolutely with internal voices of dissent.
Improving relations with Turkey and using that relationship to foster greater freedom of expression and create an environment where history can be discussed without fear of "insulting Turkishness" could be a much more effective route to synching Turkey historically with the rest of the world than criminalizing people for repeating falsehoods they've been told since youth.
 
Have you seen "River Of Red"? See it and then think we shouldn't give Turkey massive shit for being in the closet about it.
The Armenian Genocide has been said even to have inspired Hitler to the Holocaust as he figured that people didn't notice it they wouldn't notice the Holocaust.
 
Criminalizing denialism is kinda iffy for me considering the 1st Amendment over here, so it's really an ethnocentric position for me. However, it's different in Europe and since they already criminalized Holocaust denial, this isn't anything outrageous, but Turkey has a point about France coming clean about it's own bloody history, of which I'm sure that there's a lot of denialism as well. This also leads to historiography, construction of narratives, power, and a whole slew of other factions in which this denialism serves an important purpose.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Have you seen "River Of Red"? See it and then think we shouldn't give Turkey massive shit for being in the closet about it.
The Armenian Genocide has been said even to have inspired Hitler to the Holocaust as he figured that people didn't notice it they wouldn't notice the Holocaust.[/QUOTE]

Another good one to see is "Ararat". It doesn't get 100% into the bloodiness and magnitude of the Armenian Genocide, but it does go into the Turkish attitudes about Armenians at the time (some of things they said mirror what the Germans said about the Jews). It also goes into the modern Turkish denial of it all.
 
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