UFC Undisputed 3: CAGFC - Iiit's Tiiime! CAGFC41: KNOCKOUT! (Fights due by 8/18!)

IIIIIIIIIt's Tiiiiiiiiime!!!

Hello everybody! Welcome to the official home of the CheapAssGamer Fighting Championship! Brought to you by n8rockerasu! With the release of UFC Undisputed 3, CAGFC is back for its 3rd year of competition! For all intents and purposes, this will be similar to any other online sports league you've been a part of. The difference is, this is man against man. No seasons. No schedules. No AI teammates. No one to blame but yourself.

WHAT IS CAGFC AND HOW DOES IT WORK? HOW DO I SIGN UP? CAN I SIGN UP MORE THAN ONE FIGHTER? WHEN DO I FIGHT? WHAT THE FANS ARE SAYING

*** ALL FIGHTS SHOULD BE SET UP WITH EQUALIZED STATS AND SIMULATION STAMINA ***

Current Event - 8/11/12 - CAGFC41: KNOCKOUT

*Title fights should be set up by the defending champion and set for a length of 5 ROUNDS

Gail Pennyfeather | TJ Taylor | TKO | 1:14 of Round 2


Past Events

Fight Videos

CAGFC Fighters
CAG Name | Gamertag | Fighter Name | Stats


Heavyweight (over 205lbs to 265lbs)
1. Matt Young | X Matt Young X | Gail "The Predator" Pennyfeather - CAGFC HW Champion!

2. kburns10 | kburns10 | Tj "The Bull" Taylor 3. shotgunshine | shotgunshine | Big "Bad News" Business 4. moojuice | moojuice | Ronald McDonald
Light Heavyweight (over 185lbs to 205lbs)
1. shotgunshine | shotgunshine | Pablo "Destruction" Garcia - CAGFC LHW Champion!
2. n8rockerasu | n8rocker82 | Borat "The Butcher" Sagdiyev 3. xHoochiex | HLK Famous | Diego "Dirty" Sanchez 4. Calipso | Sturmgeist781 | Chris Jordan 5. DarkTower80 | DarkTower80 | Corky Buchek 6. Ultimate Matt X | Ultimate Matt X | Matt "The Boogie Man" Domoracki 7. moojuice | moojuice | Domingo "Big Papi" Ayala 8. Matt Young | X Matt Young X | Tabasco Smothernuts
Middleweight (over 170lbs to 185lbs)

Welterweight (over 155lbs to 170lbs)
1. shotgunshine | shotgunshine | Troy "Danger" Alvarez - CAGFC WW Champion!

2. Fearia | BeFlatLine | Justin "The Destroyer" Kane 3. Rylin210 | Rylin210 | Rob "Shaolin" Lopez 4. urmomlikesme | URM0MLIK3SME | Conrad "The Demolition Man" Silva 5. Matt Young | X Matt Young X | "Machine Gun" Matt Young 6. Scorch | ScorchX | Jack Ryan 7. Calipso | Sturmgeist781 | Max "The Storm" Turner 8. Ultimate Matt X | Ultimate Matt X | Nick "The Grip"
Lightweight (over 145lbs to 155lbs)

Featherweight (over 135lbs to 145lbs)

Bantamweight (over 125lbs to 135lbs)


Retired Fighters

CAGFC Title History
Champion | Date Won | Date Lost

Heavyweight
Current: Gail Pennyfeather | 8/15/12 | Present
Previous:
Light Heavyweight
Current: Pablo Garcia | 4/16/12 | Present
Previous:
Middleweight
Current: Nate Lisa | 8/28/09 | Present
Previous:
Welterweight
Current: Troy Alvarez | 6/18/12 | Present
Previous:
Lightweight
Current: Nick Sutera | 8/10/09 | Present
Previous:
Featherweight
None

Bantamweight
None


UFC Undisputed 3 Game Info

I have been waiting for this. I'm in.

I just really hope the online for this is worth playing. 2010 was so disappointing in that regard. Looking back, I'm impressed with what we were able to do even though CAGFC wasn't quite as good as the year before.

Also looking back, the submission system was terrible. I don't know how it could possibly be too hard to submit people and too easy to submit people at the same time, but it was. It was damn near impossible to submit the CPU, but playing against human opponents (ahem...mrmeaty...ahem), it was ridiculous that you could drag a 250 lb man from side control to rubber guard to triangle choke, in one swift, neat, little motion.

Ultimately, if the online play or submission system is anything like 2010, it probably won't be worth doing CAGFC. I'm not going to have the time or energy to police people this year to not spam exploits. I'm hopeful that they've improved it, but I'm also fairly skeptical.

THQ's tech support was also horrid for 2010. I don't know how many people were still around to figure it out, but most of the online problems (save a crappy submission system) were fixed about 6 months after the game came out. I haven't touched the game since probably April, but back then, the servers were smooth, matchmaking worked flawlessly, and they somehow managed to put back the "view opponent's stats" screen that they "mistakenly" had removed and told everyone it was "not possible" to add to the game when it first launched.

In short, it's actually a pretty decent game now, lol. I just can't believe it took them 6 months to figure out how to make their game work properly. With this year's game trying to be so huge (over 150 fighters, Pride mode, etc.), it will be embarrassing if online play is broken again.

Im 100% in. Ima huge MMA fan and bought both UFC games and loved them...this one looks like its going to blow the other ones away. Definitely a day one purchase for me.

One word....Mayhem. I'm so in just for him.

I would love to jump all over this one but those pre-order deals so far don't look great. On a sidenote, the submission system still looks like garbage to me. It may not be popular opinion but I liked the shining system of 2010 (even with controllers being damaged) and think the similarity to EA MMA's submission system will not be good for UFC 3 at all.

IMO THQ is trying to get people to brawl more, since there were A LOT of cry babies who didn't understand/master the grappling system.

[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']I would love to jump all over this one but those pre-order deals so far don't look great. On a sidenote, the submission system still looks like garbage to me. It may not be popular opinion but I liked the shining system of 2010 (even with controllers being damaged) and think the similarity to EA MMA's submission system will not be good for UFC 3 at all.

IMO THQ is trying to get people to brawl more, since there were A LOT of cry babies who didn't understand/master the grappling system.[/QUOTE]

You must have only played against the CPU. Against human opponents, the grappling/submission system was completely broken. 2009's grappling system was actually better. Takedowns were way too easy in 2010...which led to most people approaching their opponents with their hands down, tapping back on the right stick every few seconds because it was the only way to stuff a takedown.

Transition reversals were also too easy. I'll admit, many people didn't take the time to learn that you needed to vary your timing when trying to transition, but the window to reverse it was still HUGE...which led to people just camping out and only advancing position through reversals.

Finally, the shining submission system was a joke. To be fair, it probably had less to do with the act of shining, and more to do with the simplicity of "click the right stick and get a submission attempt any time you want one". People would just slap on submission attempt after submission attempt, just draining your stamina (while having no affect on their own stamina). When it's routine for someone to have five submission attempts each round, something is wrong with the game.

It has nothing to do with "not understanding the grappling system". It's recognizing that by becoming a top player, you've learned to abuse exploits. I can say that because that's what I had to do to be at all competitive online. The more THQ changes that, the better.

Roster Reveal Video that THQ put up yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuzjhRUALxU&feature=relmfu

[quote name='n8rockerasu']You must have only played against the CPU. Against human opponents, the grappling/submission system was completely broken. 2009's grappling system was actually better. Takedowns were way too easy in 2010...which led to most people approaching their opponents with their hands down, tapping back on the right stick every few seconds because it was the only way to stuff a takedown.

Transition reversals were also too easy. I'll admit, many people didn't take the time to learn that you needed to vary your timing when trying to transition, but the window to reverse it was still HUGE...which led to people just camping out and only advancing position through reversals.

Finally, the shining submission system was a joke. To be fair, it probably had less to do with the act of shining, and more to do with the simplicity of "click the right stick and get a submission attempt any time you want one". People would just slap on submission attempt after submission attempt, just draining your stamina (while having no affect on their own stamina). When it's routine for someone to have five submission attempts each round, something is wrong with the game.

It has nothing to do with "not understanding the grappling system". It's recognizing that by becoming a top player, you've learned to abuse exploits. I can say that because that's what I had to do to be at all competitive online. The more THQ changes that, the better.[/QUOTE]

Nope, I played pretty much exclusively online and was ranked in the top 10 for a little while as well. Had a stellar record and recorded most wins by submission. I truly UNDERSTOOD the grappling/submission system of UFC 2010, and that is what propelled me to the top. Some things were kinda stupid (like the amount of time it took to pass guard on higher level players due to flicking the stick to reverse), but people ran out their stamina and got subbed or didn't transition stall and got reversed very often.

I was, at one period of time, beating top 5 guys (usually by decision) and plenty of top 50 guys all the time, mostly with grappling. I sucked on the feet.

I don't know, I am having trouble seeing this new submission system being any good. I expect the grappling to be great, and the striking to be improved, but without submissions I am worried guys who like to sink in subs will be neglected or need to exploit that foolish Octagon submission ring somehow just to get taps.

[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']Nope, I played pretty much exclusively online and was ranked in the top 10 for a little while as well. Had a stellar record and recorded most wins by submission. I truly UNDERSTOOD the grappling/submission system of UFC 2010, and that is what propelled me to the top. Some things were kinda stupid (like the amount of time it took to pass guard on higher level players due to flicking the stick to reverse), but people ran out their stamina and got subbed or didn't transition stall and got reversed very often.

I was, at one period of time, beating top 5 guys (usually by decision) and plenty of top 50 guys all the time, mostly with grappling. I sucked on the feet.

I don't know, I am having trouble seeing this new submission system being any good. I expect the grappling to be great, and the striking to be improved, but without submissions I am worried guys who like to sink in subs will be neglected or need to exploit that foolish Octagon submission ring somehow just to get taps.[/QUOTE]

So, you were part of the problem, lol. Figures. Did you not notice at all that EVERY fight online was nothing more than a wrestling match? No one ever had any reason to engage in stand up because they could get takedowns so easily. For that matter, anybody who played with CAFs just juiced their fighters to be ground wizards so their stand up skills were non-existent.

It became a formula that you had to follow if you wanted any chance of winning. It's easy to drain your stamina when a guy is attempting submission after submission with no affect on himself. How can you call that an MMA game? You liked it because you got good at it. It doesn't mean it wasn't broken. I'm not saying the new system will be better. But to say they didn't need to change anything is ridiculous. The entire purpose is to make submissions more fair/realistic. If that translates to "not as easy to spam", then too bad.

I'm not saying the original system was perfect, it was far from, but takedowns weren't easy to get if you had skill and timing. I outstruck pure wrestlers/grapplers and outgrappled strikers, its not like I was "part of the problem" and was just grappling/submitting.

I agree about CAFs, and sub spamming was somewhat stupid (although easily defeated), but the grappling system was the best that any game has ever had. I expect UFC 3 to be BETTER, but I have reservations about the submission system, which is a huge part of the game/sport like it or not.

Demo comes out Tuesday!

http://www.ufcundisputed.com/go/art...1/ufc_undisputed_3_demo_launches_this_tuesday

New video showcasing career mode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN6vHH9WtgE&feature=youtu.be

Yay for the demo. I still need to finish career mode on 2010, heh.

The question is what fighters will be available? Wouldn't be surprised to see Evans/Davis and maybe Sonnen/Munoz.

Demo is out now!!!

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/P...acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025451887e?noSplash=1

Really loving the demo so far. It just feels really good to be playing a UFC game again. Kinda makes me wish most sports games were on an every other year cycle. A few things of note:

What I Liked:

* THQ said they wanted this game to be taken seriously in the tournament fighting game scene, and accordingly, they've added different "rulesets" you can play under. In addition to the default playstyle, they've added "Competition", which removes flash KO's, doctor stoppages, and adverse effects from cuts. Another option is "Equalized Stats" which does the same as "Competition", but also normalizes all stats and attributes to a rating of 90, putting all fighters on an even playing field. If we're assuming that these options work properly, those are HUGE positives for trying to do CAGFC again.

* Taking it one step further, they also have two different options for stamina. There is the default option and then also "Simulation" which increases the energy cost and damage of all strikes and transitions. Again, something that could prove very useful to CAGFC.

* I like the new submission system. It may be a bit overblown, and does take away from the action happening in the background, but it gives you a real sense of what locking in a submission means. "Oh, he's trying to force me to go to the left. I need to shift the other way." It is almost literally a cat and mouse game, but it makes more sense than "I can spin my stick faster than you".

I haven't played enough to see the effect it has on stamina though (and the demo only gives you 1 round anyway), so time will tell if "submission on-submission off" still works because you still just have to click the right stick and your guy will just launch into a sub attempt. I'm hoping the "Simulation" stamina will aid with that though.

* Pride mode is awesome! Depending on how extensive the roster is (I could have sworn I saw Don Frye and Dan Severn in the intro video), I have a strong suspicion this is going to be the more popular mode. It seriously feels like its own game. It has its own intro, its own music, its own announcers, its own graphics, and just an overall different feel from the rest of the game. It feels like a true sequel to the Pride FC PS2 game.

* Fighter intros are great! (especially the Pride ones, haha) I really hope we can add custom music for our created fighters. I know it wouldn't play on the other person's 360 in online matches, but it would be pretty awesome just to hear for myself. I can only imagine the music that Gail Pennyfeather would come out to. Something by Boy George or Ricky Martin, I'm sure.

What I Didn't Like:

* Refs still don't always step in to pull you off your opponent. Yes, it's an aesthetic thing, but it can't be that hard to program, and it just feels lazy 3 games into the series. IF the gameplay is strong though, I'll get over it.

* Fights take a bit of time to load. That concerns me that we're in for more of the same with loading screens. This is especially worrisome considering the demo is pulling from the hard drive. If loading from the disc takes longer, be ready to install the game to your hard drive or get really bored.

Overall, the gameplay feels good though. I might even say that the Sim stamina is TOO harsh (when I rocked a guy and tried to finish, I was in a gassed state after maybe 4-5 punches). But I'd rather have that as an option as opposed to just being able to wail away with no consequences. At least there's an option for different game styles now, and they can fine tune them with patches/updates/etc. I'd love to hear your guys' impressions too. I want to see people get amped for this game! I can't wait!

Awesome. Im d/l the demo now...cant wait to try it!

ufc - jones -silva
pride - vanderlei - rampage

I feel the need to add that the demo is currently only available to GOLD members of Xbox Live, which, I feel, is quite weak.

Pulling the demo down for tomorrow evening. I'm excited as I didn't pick up 2010! Not sure how the FC worked (I'll have to glance at the old thread) but I'm down to get my ass beat a few times.

Wow, not sure how I missed this. Apparently, the Pride roster has been out since November. And yes, Freddie Mercury (Severn) and Tom Selleck (Frye) are both in the game! I can only hope this means that we'll be able to put incredible 'staches like theirs on our CAFs. Those moustaches are so spectacular the porn industry is jealous.

http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/videogames/blog/_/name/thegamer/id/7178813/pride?readmore=fullstory

Two more awesome things I noticed playing tonight.

1. The AI still comes out and wants to touch gloves at the beginning of the fight. And you can still just ignore them and throw a cheap shot while their hand is extended. However, if you do this, the crowd will boo you and the commentators will make note of it.

2. When you knock a guy out from standing, you can still jump on him and throw more punches (even though he's clearly out). When you do this, eventually the ref WILL step in to pull you off. The best part is the first time I did this (in Pride mode), Wanderlai fell flat on his face, so when Rampage jumped on him, it looked like he was just mounting him for fun. I had no idea what was going on, so he just sat there, riding his ass in victory, lol.

Love the demo. Im digging most of the changes/tweaks that they've made. Not sure how to feel about the submission system yet as I haven't tried to many subs but its kind of weird...probably take some getting used to. I like how jabs and straights actually serve a purpose this year in interrupting the strong strikes. Also, everything is more fluid and faster and not as stiff as the last two games. Overall, im very happy with it.

Shotgunshine said pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

I like it. Now to find some cash for it. Not sure I like going behind the guy just to slam him to the mat how ever.

Not a bad DLC pack, and I very much hope that THQ is a little more active in updating stats, etc. this time around. I don't like Pascal Kraus being in there though, how did THQ even think of that guy?

Fight of the Night Pack

Featuring UFC fighters renowned for having the most exciting fights of the night – Joe Lauzon, Rory MacDonald, Charles Oliveira and Sam Stout, along with former UFC fighter Anthony Johnson – the Fight of the Night Pack will be available for a suggested purchase cost of 400 Microsoft Points for Xbox 360 or $4.99 USD via PlayStation Network in March 2012.

International Pack

Featuring UFC fighters “The Korean Zombie” Jung Chan-Sung, England’s John Hathaway, Germany’s Pascal Kraus, Australia’s Kyle Noke and Italian Alessio Sakara, the International Pack will be available for a suggested purchase cost of 400 Microsoft Points for Xbox 360 or $4.99 USD via PlayStation Network in April 2012.

Kind of disappointed that those "Fight of the Night" guys aren't in the game to begin with. I guess you could argue that they're "undercard guys", but MacDonald is becoming a top welterweight pretty quickly.

I want in on the CAGFC. Any word when those GameStop timed dlc will be available for everyone?

I'm interested in the league, but I still have to play the demo to see if I'm into the game. It sounds good so far though and I loved the first one.

IGN review is out. They gave it a 9.0!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1218315p1.html

[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']IGN review is out. They gave it a 9.0!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1218315p1.html[/QUOTE]

Steven hopper kinda summed up how I felt in the review just from playing the demo. The movements of the fighter aren't fluid like in real life but still pretty good. Can't wait for Tuesday night to dig my teeth into this game.

Just a few more days!!! I went to Gamestop today to finish paying it all off and asked the guy if they were doing a midnight opening for it and he said they weren't....so disappointed

In the previous games did the way you moved the stick determine if you went left or right in transitions? I can't remember from the first one and didn't play the second. I ask because I like the new amateur setup much better, but I'm wonder if something is lost in it when it comes to determining the direction of your transition.

Yes.

[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']In the previous games did the way you moved the stick determine if you went left or right in transitions? I can't remember from the first one and didn't play the second. I ask because I like the new amateur setup much better, but I'm wonder if something is lost in it when it comes to determining the direction of your transition.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I haven't tried the amateur controls, but if they don't allow you to determine which way you move, you are being limited. That should kinda be expected though. It's a vastly simplified control scheme meant to make the game more accessible. But if you want 100% control over your fighter, re-learning the regular controls is probably the best option. It might even be something where you can start with the amateur and switch to pro controls once the simpler moves become second nature.

[quote name='n8rockerasu']Yeah, I haven't tried the amateur controls, but if they don't allow you to determine which way you move, you are being limited. That should kinda be expected though. It's a vastly simplified control scheme meant to make the game more accessible. But if you want 100% control over your fighter, re-learning the regular controls is probably the best option. It might even be something where you can start with the amateur and switch to pro controls once the simpler moves become second nature.[/QUOTE]

But the regular controls did allow you to control transition direction in the previous games? I don't remember if it did or not. I don't think the amateur ones do here, but honestly I haven't played enough to know.

Does the game account for left and right side stats? If not, would it really make a difference which direction you transitioned?

Regarding the amateur controls, is anything else simplified other than the stick movment? Has anyone read anything on this? It seemed pretty comparable to the first game other than transitions. Everything else felt just about the same.

Got my preorder in on amazon. Sucks they don't have the same dlc pack (or any) as gamestop. Really want nick diaz and hardy. I would buy it at gamestop but no money and amazon credit is paying for my copy. Any word when the dlc pack of gamestop fighters will be available for the masses?

Just played some more and it does seem that the pro mode controls do give more freedom of movement. Not sure if that matters though when it comes to stats if the game doesn't factor in whether your rights or lefts are stronger.

Also, I know this is Xbox discussion, but there is some DLC for it already up in the PS Store for free.

[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']
Also, I know this is Xbox discussion, but there is some DLC for it already up in the PS Store for free.[/QUOTE]

What dlc would that be? Don't have a ps3 to go and check what I'm missing. It's not up on xbox is it? Free dlc isn't the Micro$oft way.

if you pre-order it from THQ, you get the season pass for free which starts you off with the FOTN and International Packs and the Ultimate Submission, Rival, Upsets and Mixed Bag Collection. The Gamestop fighter pack will be available 90 days post-launch. for more info click here. hope this helps

[quote name='nycmetsfan']if you pre-order it from THQ, you get the season pass for free which starts you off with the FOTN and International Packs and the Ultimate Submission, Rival, Upsets and Mixed Bag Collection. The Gamestop fighter pack will be available 90 days post-launch. for more info click here. hope this helps[/QUOTE]

Ok, so the Season Pass includes:
Fighter Packs – Fight of the Night Pack and International Pack
Ultimate Fights Packs – Ultimate Upsets and Mixed Bag
UFC Heavyweight Championship contender Alistair Overeem
All Unlockables

Does not include:

The Contenders Pack (Gamestop pre-order exclusive, will be available to purchase 90-days post launch)
Create a Fighter Boost (Amazon pre-order exclusive, will be available to purchase at launch)
Online Pass - all new copies of UFC 3 contain this for FREE, used copies must purchase.

What's are people's thoughts on the season pass? Yay or nay? I personally only want The Contenders pack. If it was included in the season pass I would get it but for now it seems a bit steep.

Will the Gamestop DLC be in the case or on the receipt or something outside the case? (Judging from past experiences with Gamestop exclusive DLC)

[quote name='KingofOldSchool']Will the Gamestop DLC be in the case or on the receipt or something outside the case? (Judging from past experiences with Gamestop exclusive DLC)[/QUOTE]

Judging from my dlc from Batman: AC it will be on the receipt.

[quote name='urmomlikesme']What dlc would that be? Don't have a ps3 to go and check what I'm missing. It's not up on xbox is it? Free dlc isn't the Micro$oft way.[/QUOTE]

I forget exactly what they were, but if you check out the PS3 Board and the thread on the PSN Store they're listed there. They're free, I think they're those packs where you get videos and stuff to set up certain historic fights.

[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']I forget exactly what they were, but if you check out the PS3 Board and the thread on the PSN Store they're listed there. They're free, I think they're those packs where you get videos and stuff to set up certain historic fights.[/QUOTE]

If that's it, they'll be free on Xbox too.

Ultimate Submission (FREE AT LAUNCH FOR EVERYONE)
The Ultimate Submissions collection, currently scheduled for release at launch and available free of charge on both videogame platforms, will include:

UFC 109: Mike Swick vs. Paulo Thiago
UFC 115: Mirko Cro Cop vs. Pat Barry
UFC 116: Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin
UFC Fight Night 19: Nate Diaz vs. Melvin Guillard
UFC Fight Night 21: Kenny Florian vs. Takanori Gomi

Ultimate Rival (FREE AT LAUNCH FOR EVERYONE)
The Ultimate Rivals collection, currently scheduled for release at launch and available free of charge on both videogame platforms, will include:

UFC 92: Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva
UFC 111: Georges St-Pierre vs. Dan Hardy
UFC 114: Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Rashad Evans
UFC 117: Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
The Ultimate Fighter® Season 9: Diego Sanchez vs. Clay Guida

Click to expand...

So is the season pass just giving you the two fighter packs (international and fight of the night) and a bunch of videos of Real UFC fights? It's not unlocking the characters because they are already in the game. If you don't have the season pass does that mean you can not fight Brock Lesnar and Cain Velasquez because that's one of the videos? I doubt it. I think I will only be picking up the Contenders pack (when it becomes available) and the international pack.

[quote name='urmomlikesme']So is the season pass just giving you the two fighter packs (international and fight of the night) and a bunch of videos of Real UFC fights? It's not unlocking the characters because they are already in the game. If you don't have the season pass does that mean you can not fight Brock Lesnar and Cain Velasquez because that's one of the videos? I doubt it. I think I will only be picking up the Contenders pack (when it becomes available) and the international pack.[/QUOTE]

It's not exactly VIDEOS per se. I'm guessing it's more like backstory, interviews, relevent fight commentary, etc. Similar to an extra "level" in a different game. If you remember, the past UFC games had classic fights that were introduced by Rachelle Leah/Arianny Celeste, and had the actual pre-fight interviews from the fighters. Then, when the fights started, Goldberg and Rogan would talk specifically about that fight. It was pretty cool. Not sure if it'll be worth the price they're asking, but I'm such a big MMA fan, I feel like there's no way I won't get all the DLC eventually.

I want this really bad, but I think I'll wait for a $40 price point.

[quote name='n8rockerasu']It's not exactly VIDEOS per se. I'm guessing it's more like backstory, interviews, relevent fight commentary, etc. Similar to an extra "level" in a different game. If you remember, the past UFC games had classic fights that were introduced by Rachelle Leah/Arianny Celeste, and had the actual pre-fight interviews from the fighters. Then, when the fights started, Goldberg and Rogan would talk specifically about that fight. It was pretty cool. Not sure if it'll be worth the price they're asking, but I'm such a big MMA fan, I feel like there's no way I won't get all the DLC eventually.[/QUOTE]

I know, I'm a big fan as well but sort of knew to the game so many of those fights I haven't seen. I think you might have just sold me on the season pass. Especially if I can use my $10 video game credit from amazon for pre-ordering to buy Micro$oft points. Is this possible?