hmmm, already bought Oblivion twice, and I've already gotten all achievements for both games (well except for brass balls for BioShock, but that's a BS dlc, albeit free dlc, achievement I didn't know about until I had gotten all the other ones; only died 4 times or so on hard anyway, not doing that again). I kind of want to check out mods for Oblivion (Nehrim), but eh it's not worth buying both IMO (hoping for vanilla oblivion dd for $5). Plus I don't need 3 Oblivion discs. Definitely two phenomenal games though and a good deal certainly.