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Rich dont pay enough but poor people dont pay any and people fine with that


#1 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29143 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 06:45 PM

Someone walk me though this and if this pisses you off too bad cause im sick of my neighbors pulling this crap and everyone else out there doing it.. now if you are disabled and cant work that is another point but this is my POINT

Lets take two people over a 2 year span

YEAR 1

PERSON A makes 100 million a year and pays 1 % tax (okay lets all SCREAM THEY ARE NOT PAYING ENOUGH) they will pay 1 million in taxes


PERSON B sits on their ass all day and can draw section 8 housing. get food stamps and welfare AND PAY NOTHING IN TAXES but have a child and even though they DID NOT PAY A PENNY IN TAXES they will get a tax return CHECK


YEAR 2

Person A makes another 100 million and pays 1 million in tax

Person B still sitting on their asses and under obama does not have to look for a job to keep getting welfare and decides I need more money so i just have another kid even though i cant afford the one i have now and get DOUBLE the refund check at the end of year


so in two years what have these two people done

PERSON A Might of earned 200 Million but paid 2 million in taxes

PERSON B earned no money sat on their asses all day. Got free housing. Got free food stamps. Got a check every week for doing nothing and GOT A REFUND CHECK ON TAXES THEY NEVER PAID



Yea right the Rich dont pay enough .. How about saying

The rich might not pay enough BUT THEY PAY MORE THEN THE Welfare class



had neighbors for the last 15 years noone of them work. when they moved in they had a kid that was 3 years old and had 4 more kids since. They have not 1 put 3 50 to 80 inch FLAT SCREEN tvs , they allow people to move in with them so they can say they have more people in their household so they can get MORE FREE MONEY

and what happen the other day pissed me off the most. I was talking to their kid who got out of school back in june and go .... well what you going to do now go to college or work

She looks right in my face and laugh and goes WORK why the hell would i work when the government gives us money not to... And before you guess She is expecting her first child in FEB


Im sick of this fucking bullshit of Rich dont pay enough KICK THESE SOB OFF THE GOVERMENT ROLE



there is my daily rant
WOOOO I STINK

#2 GBAstar   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9692 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 06:49 PM

oh slidecage.. the softies are going to come in and say person "B" does not exists... and that the only welfare receipients are hard working single mothers.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 06:51 PM

I agree, I oppose socialism.

Let's start opposing socialism by eliminating the military.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 07:33 PM

Somehow I could tell it is a slidecage topic before even clicking on it.

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#5 Icegaryen   Stuart and the Ave CAGiversary!   575 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 07:45 PM

I agree. What happened to capitalism?

#6 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   6899 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 07:45 PM

Yeah, those welfare queens are pretty bad. But not as bad as soldiers in combat, the elderly, five person families making less than $50K a year, people struggling to get by on minimum wage 40+ hours a week, etc. They're the real parasites to this country.

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#7 Dr Mario Kart   SD/2D Defense Force CAGiversary!   10952 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 07:50 PM

Exactly what kind of tax are we talking about here? Federal income tax? State? payroll tax? sales tax? property tax?

#8 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29143 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:41 PM

Yeah, those welfare queens are pretty bad. But not as bad as soldiers in combat, the elderly, five person families making less than $50K a year, people struggling to get by on minimum wage 40+ hours a week, etc. They're the real parasites to this country.


guess what

if they were a 3 person family making less then 50k and had problems getting by then they should of never had more children.. Noone forces you to have children. This is what is wrong with this country people think they have the RIGHT to have them and everyone else has to pay to raise them.

dont even get me started on solders cause this country dont give a damn about them when they return.

and maybe we would have more money for the elderly if the welfare scum wasnt sucking the system dry

yea you dont have to work but they can afford cars, tv , vactions and more crap... need more money have another kid

yea obama helps the poor that is why the DEBT doubled under his watch and twice as many people are on food stamps.

they can sit on their asses while everyone else has to work...

They dont pay taxes so why the Fuck did i have to send in 600 bucks on federal and 150 on state 2 weeks ago

WHY WORK WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WILL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE and that is why he will win this nov.


OBAMA = FREE MONEY
MITT = GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GET A JOB

yea right like they are going to get a fucking job
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#9 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   10048 Posts   Joined 7.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:42 PM

It is not even worth arguing about. If being poor was such a sweet deal there would be no rich people right? Why get millions of dollars when the government will give $200 a month for food right? Rich people whining about their taxes is nothing but white noise. I could care less about their "problems".

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:49 PM

Man, poor people get all the breaks!

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:57 PM

The thing that bothers me most is the attitude the super rich have like they actually earned all that money. That somehow they worked so hard they deserve every last penny of that $50 million dollars this year. It is borderline sociopaths that complain about shit like this.

#12 jimmywolf   wolf CAGiversary!   441 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

the thing that your pretty little argument leaves out is when you rich you have a lot power maybe having billions dallors force you pay few million but you have the power too make millions every year the poor that you wish too spit on don't really have many options an are forced into situations that they have little control over their always be those that exploit the system for their own gain rich an poor but don't try make it seem like the rich are suffering injustice an are doing the rest of the world a favor

#13 slidecage   Nothing to say CAGiversary!   29143 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:16 PM

the thing that your pretty little argument leaves out is when you rich you have a lot power maybe having billions dallors force you pay few million but you have the power too make millions every year the poor that you wish too spit on don't really have many options an are forced into situations that they have little control over their always be those that exploit the system for their own gain rich an poor but don't try make it seem like the rich are suffering injustice an are doing the rest of the world a favor


yea someone holds a gun to your head and forces you to keep having children


about the super rich

yea the took the risk so why shouldnt get the the breaks.. I give them a break over little old lazy Fuck who sits on the ass all day and just waits for obama to come give them their government check

and he knows they are too lazy to get off their asses that is why he TOOK THE WORK REQUIREMENT OUT of getting government handouts

YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO LOOK FOR A Fucking JOB ANYMORE
WOOOO I STINK

#14 Cantatus   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   988 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:22 PM

and he knows they are too lazy to get off their asses that is why he TOOK THE WORK REQUIREMENT OUT of getting government handouts


Wow, I guess if you repeat a lie often enough, people do believe it.

#15 Dark_Sage   Superior CAGiversary!   3422 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:50 PM

Slide, you're wrong about the work requirement bit. http://www.politifac...g-welfare-work/

tl;dr: Obama said he's willing to consider proposals from states on how to better move people from welfare into jobs. That's kind of... common sense for a states-right person, yeah?

I don't think anyone here is in disagreement with you that those whose entire lives are built around leeching off the system shouldn't be getting away with it. But don't pretend like Mitt Romney is going to fix the situation. Did Bush turn your neighbors into productive citizens? Did any president? No current or past politician was able to fix the situation, so what makes you think Mitt will? Does he have a sensible plan for it?

#16 Josh1billion   ゲーム開発者 CAGiversary!   2054 Posts   Joined 7.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:14 PM

By the way everyone talks, one would imagine that the government is just sitting there, giving away free money to everyone and anyone who asks for it.

From my own experience, it seems it's not so simple. For the past few years, I've been a full-time university student, paying all of my own living expenses via programming (both freelance and formal employment). Throughout most of that time, I've had an extremely difficult time balancing rent/food and studying, at times even having to skip a less-important class or two in order to have more time to work. In that time, I've applied for food stamps twice, state health care once or twice, several appeals processes, and have been rejected on every single application and appeal. Either I was doing something wrong (not forging documents?), or the government isn't as willing to give "handouts" as some people would like to believe. I mostly just went without food and healthcare.

Not a big deal now, since I'm making much more money freelancing now than I was then, but yeah, if the systems in place in my state are airtight enough that I couldn't receive a hand up (not a hand-out) when I legitimately needed it, I have a hard time believing that the government is as willing to throw around welfare quite as loosely as some would have you believe. There's sure to be a certain amount of people who are illegitimately taking advantage of the system, but that's no reason to remove entire programs at the cost of endangering those who actually need them.

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#17 Msut77   Occam's Shank CAGiversary!   6177 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 22 September 2012 - 11:02 PM

i agree. What happened to capitalism?


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#18 niceguyshawne   Hardcore since '74 CAGiversary!   2510 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:07 AM

Does anyone else find it weird that the dude who is always looking for someone to sue would be against a person getting something for nothing?
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#19 GBAstar   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9692 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:23 AM

It is not even worth arguing about. If being poor was such a sweet deal there would be no rich people right? Why get millions of dollars when the government will give $200 a month for food right? Rich people whining about their taxes is nothing but white noise. I could care less about their "problems".



Nope you would have poor people and rich people... and a decline in middle class.. kind of like.. wait a minute? Isn't that the modern trend?

#20 ElwoodCuse   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1554 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:28 AM

haha "welfare scum" that's rich considering corporations get more welfare than poor people
But when his drinking and lusting and his hunger for power became known to more and more people, the demands to do something about this outrageous man became louder and louder.

#21 Confucius   Corporate Shill CAGiversary!   16221 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:25 PM

slidecage is the republican party's wet dream.

they're ashamed of him but welcome his votes.

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#22 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:56 PM

slidecage is the republican party's wet dream.

they're ashamed of him but welcome his votes.


They need people like slidecage, it's not like they could win any elections with just 1% of the vote...

#23 Confucius   Corporate Shill CAGiversary!   16221 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:01 PM

They need people like slidecage, it's not like they could win any elections with just 1% of the vote...


I don't understand poor people who vote republican. Unless you're absolutely unswayable, and the only thing you care about is being pro-life, why would you vote republican if you're poor?

Edited by confoosious, 23 September 2012 - 02:32 PM.
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#24 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:08 PM

I don't understand poor people who vote republican. Unless you're absolutely unswayable, that's the only thing you care about pro-life, why would you vote republican if you're poor?


Easy, because you've had it drilled into your head that one day you might be rich too...

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:29 PM

I don't understand poor people who vote republican. Unless you're absolutely unswayable, that's the only thing you care about pro-life, why would you vote republican if you're poor?


Yeah, combination of being socially conservative, and buying into the American Dream, free market crap the right spouts in stirring up anti-government furor.

#26 Confucius   Corporate Shill CAGiversary!   16221 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:32 PM

Easy, because you've had it drilled into your head that one day you might be rich too...


the dumber the sheep, the easier it is to herd them, I guess.

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#27 EmpireWF   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   40 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:55 PM

They dont pay taxes so why the Fuck did i have to send in 600 bucks on federal and 150 on state 2 weeks ago


You do know that the 47% figure tossed around is largely old folks, young students and others who work but dont make enough to pay federal income taxes. They still pay other taxes like payroll, local, etc.

Besides, what's funny and sad at the same time is a good chunk of that 47% comes from southern states that vote Republican.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:21 PM

Besides, what's funny and sad at the same time is a good chunk of that 47% comes from southern states that vote Republican.


This is largely my earlier point. if you're 1%, by all means, vote republican. That makes complete sense. But if you're part of the poor 47% (excluding students and filthy rich people with great accountants), then you're just being a dumbass.

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#29 camoor   Jams on foot fires CAGiversary!   15213 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:50 PM

slidecage is the republican party's wet dream.

they're ashamed of him but welcome his votes.


Nah.

They are either ideologues who think having a dumbass like slidecage as their thrall is part of the natural order.

Or they are neocons who hold him in bitter contempt but will gladly take his vote.

There are some high-profile party members that they are ashamed of, the unstable true believers like Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann who constantly say insanely stupid shit and threaten to expose their game.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:54 PM

I think we should proclaim a vs forum holiday, type like slidecage day.
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