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CAGcast #298: Code Crackers

#61 Sowiejathon   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   8 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  


Posted 30 September 2012 - 01:59 PM

First time posting on the site. Love the show! It is my Friday podcast and feel it is a great way to start the weekend. The dynamic of you 3 is great and enjoy the varied personalities. It's always great when let people have it who say your opinions are "wrong". Stay classy Internet.

P.S. - Please enter me in the Half-Minute Hero Contest. Thanks guys and see you next Friday.

#62 arimajinn   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   12 Posts   Joined 4.2 Years Ago  


Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:32 PM

Great episode guys like always,.. happy you guys are getting more and more into PC gaming.. I just wonder what will it take to get Wombat to try out PC gaming :)
No Torchlight 2 talk? will someone try out Torchlight 2, everyone is saying that is better then Diablo 3.
I would love a Half Minute Hero code, maybe i'm lucky :D thanks!!

Edited by arimajinn, 30 September 2012 - 06:33 PM.

#63 Guimengo   Sim and Real Racing + Sports CAGiversary!   1028 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:52 PM

Regarding 2k series, it's been having gameplay/spacing issues for a while now. Live's only chance of beating it is by offering a better gameplay experience.

#64 jr233270   Esquire CAGiversary!   2768 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:11 PM

I feel like wombat is always sick or complaining about something. And I don't mean that in a bad way - it's part of his personality.

I, too, would like a code for half minute hero on Steam

#65 GameDemonKing   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   749 Posts   Joined 9.6 Years Ago  


Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:40 PM

I like this podcast for the reason that I love CheapyD, Shipwreck and Wombat opinions on Borderlands 2. For a while now, I have been getting more Steam games and I am so addictive with Borderlands 2 because I didn't play the first one and I give kudos to GearBox for creating this brutal game and I am laughing at how many times I die while playing.

I do still play Nintendo games and I do like how your opinions go for Nintendo because I see that you're more of a hardcore gamers. It's also a nice gesture that you have your children play some games and have their opinions discussed on the podcast. But overall awesome episode!

I am interested in the giveaway unless this comment was wrong.

#66 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   38702 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:55 PM

As far as the wii-mote being in an uncomfortable rectangle shape goes, you gotta realize Nintendo fucking loves rectangles and squares. Just look at all the Gameboys and the shapes of most of their consoles. Eventually the GBA came along and it was only not a rectangle or square, but also comfortable to hold. Thankfully Nintendo realized what a mistake that was, so they released the GBA SP and kept the uncomfortable hand cramping trend going.

So in short, Nintendo has a rectangle and square fetish.

Edited by whoknows, 01 October 2012 - 04:30 AM.

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#67 celegus   Kupo for Kupo Nuts! CAGiversary!   338 Posts   Joined 7.9 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 12:09 AM

Last week I thought Shipwreck's point was that it would be dumb to have to buy Wii-mote +'s for all your plusless Wiimotes. I was fine with this, since I'd have to buy extra controllers for any other new system anyway, and at least this way many people already have half of what they need.

I didn't realize you were talking more about the actual design of the wiimote. Which, I agree, is pretty horrendous. I tried not to think about it while I played games on the Wii, but having a decent controller would be just as awesome as getting HD graphics for games like Muramasa, Xenoblade, or Monster Hunter Tri.

Love the show as always, although I don't have an iThingy account to review on iTunes. Not that I've ever even been to the site or service, so maybe you don't need one. But I'll stick with posting here!

Enter me into contest please!

#68 Kaneco   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   79 Posts   Joined 6.4 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:47 AM

I see nothing wrong with the Wiimote being supported on the Wii U (the more control options/methods/styles the better for everyone), but what I can't understand is the assumptions & focus on the Wiimote being a primary control option. It won't be, it's just for the convenience of the Wii-user base and for the sake of accessibility.

Screw 'Standardization' if it doesn't allow people to have a choice on what control scheme they choose to experience their games...PCs can choose between Keyboard/Mouse &/or Gamepads so why can't this be the same?

The Wii U Controller Pro is going to be supported and advertised as the secondary control scheme for every game that provides some form of Multiplayer experience (right after the tablet) so I don't get the problem of supporting Wiimotes, when it's simply 'Optional'! Yes! 'Optional' is the keyword people should be paying attention to.

People are making Nintendo sound like they're in favor of the Wiimotes over the Wii U controllers, when in reality haven't shown any and seem to be mildly supporting both equally as secondary control schemes.

3rd-parties will be the ones making the choice here, when it comes to control schemes (aside from the tablet)...if they decide to use the Wiimote over the Wii U Controller Pro (as in not using it at all, and forcing you to use the Wiimote) then there's no one to blame but those aforementioned 3rd-parties and not Nintendo.

'nuff said.

I hope this opens some close-minded minds and make for interesting/intelligent arguments.

#69 spree4567   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   660 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  


Posted 01 October 2012 - 02:30 AM

Tokyo Jungle is a lot of fun. Very weird but fun to play for a bit. Glad to hear Ship is trying it out.

I'd like to get entered into the contest for Half Minute Hero. Thanks!

#70 LiK   Internet Superstar CAGiversary!   2299 Posts   Joined 9.6 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:41 PM

i'll take a half-minute hero code!

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#71 trip1eX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1153 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:43 PM

Why are you guys complaining about using wiimotes for multiplayer?

It has never sounded like any of you ever really play any local multiplayer games on your console.

Yes the sideways wiimote isn't the most comfortable controller to hold, but I know I don't want to buy a new set of extra multiplayer controllers for the wife, kids and I either.

Edited by trip1eX, 01 October 2012 - 06:15 PM.

#72 trip1eX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1153 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:06 PM

Shipwreck needs to take a step back and get the hang of the m/k.

The payoff is there. M/K controls are inherently better in most ways. The mouse is more precise and faster. The keyboard gives you quicker access to everything.

You will be worse with m/k at first, but get over that and you will forget about the controller. It will take a month or two.

***I remember it like the birth of my first child. The day I had to switch from keyboard only to mouse/keyboard. It took me a few attempts. But then finally I stuck with it, suffered for a bit and then ultimately came out of the other side for the better. /dreamlike sequence***

Yes multiplayer helped motivate me. But there are many advantages in single player as well. Compared to a controller, inventories are much easier to navigate with m/k. Combat is more fun with the quick action of a mouse. And menus etc are easier to navigate with all the shortcut keys.

Also I think becoming fluent in another control scheme gives you a different perspective. In BF:BC2 I got decent enough with a controller in addition to m/k and it is weird, but using the controller gave me a new view on how to play the game. I had to slow down because a controller isn't nearly as fast m/k. And out of that I think I became a better player when I went back to m/k. I had a different view on how the game is played. Ok that was a multiplayer example, but it also helps you see the difference in design between control schemes and know when a game is not properly designed for a specific control scheme and how control schemes can force creativity ideas to mask their limitations or how accessing can be better with one scheme or another.

Edited by trip1eX, 01 October 2012 - 06:29 PM.

#73 agent86ix   Co-Founder, Without the Sarcasm CAGiversary!   10 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  


Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:29 PM

You guys have a pretty good dynamic going. The audio quality's really good too, unlike some podcasts I've come across, blargh.

You guys said you got "Mark of the Ninja'd" (in addition to getting "borderlands'ed") - how are you guys liking that? I've been playing it for the last week and it feels really fun, but a bit on the "snack" side. I just wrapped up the first playthrough last night, and I'll probably go for 100%.

RE: Borderlands 2, I've tried to convert a couple of staunch console friends to M/K, and they just won't go. I'll probably play this on Xbox as well, (just because they refuse to play on the PC!) even though I could do it on the pc. So I feel for you both, Cheapy and Shipwreck :)

If possible, I'd like to get in on this Half-minute hero contest. I've had my eye on it, but I'm kinda waiting for a deal. Free is a good deal, imho :P

#74 4thHorseman   The New God CAGiversary!   2375 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  


Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:44 PM

I didn't realize you were talking more about the actual design of the wiimote. Which, I agree, is pretty horrendous. I tried not to think about it while I played games on the Wii, but having a decent controller would be just as awesome as getting HD graphics for games like Muramasa, Xenoblade, or Monster Hunter Tri.!

I feel Nintendo just has terrible controller designs in general. Going back and laying the NES, it's small and uncomfortable with it's square design, the SNES was better but still tiny, then they turn around and give you the N64 controller which is still IMO the worst controller on a console ever. Gamecube is probably my favorite controller a Nintendo console has ever had.



#75 trip1eX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1153 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

The 360 had a lot of Xbox ports at launch/launch window too at least from EA.

And yeah the Wii U isn't as powerful as the next xbox/PS will be. But this is deliberate. Is there a point where we just recognize the Wii U for what it is? And stop acting like Nintendo tried to make a console more powerful than the 360 or PS3 and failed? :lol:

And instead recognize that Nintendo is making vanilla to the other's chocolate.

They tried to do another chocolate with the Gamecube. I don't think that turned out very well for them.

So they made an entirely different flavor. Yes now you have a bunch of chocolate lovers screaming that the Wii U isn't fucking chocolate. Doh! But many others are saying I like this new flavor. Yes I like chocolate too, but it is nice to have a second flavor to choose from and not just one. NOw I can have 2 flavors.

But seemingly some are confused by this new choice of 2 flavors. BEfore they only had to buy chocolate. It came out every year. A bit more chocolate than before. But now are asked to consider Vanilla. This sets them on fire. And they can't get over that a company would dare to make something different. I mean all they had to do was add the chocolate syrup in there and they would have chocolate. But they didn't. Surely they must not know how to make chocolate any more. :lol:

AT least that is sometimes what the whole Nintendo Wii/Wii U/... discussion sounds like to me. :lol:

#76 trip1eX   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1153 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

Gamecube is probably my favorite controller a Nintendo console has ever had.

Yeah and it did the worst. What kind of message does that send to them. :lol:

#77 Detective #27   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   11 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 07:39 PM

I hope you guys rev up those gaming grills for some Torchlight II multiplayer action at some point; is there any chance for a CAGnight on that? I'm sure even Wombat's computer can support the clicketty clack clicks that game demands.

I'd also like to enter the Half-Minute Hero contest if it's still possible.

#78 BetaDemo   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   261 Posts   Joined 4.8 Years Ago  


Posted 01 October 2012 - 09:09 PM


You have to be aware you're homing in on episode #300. What plans have you guys made for that big round number? Have you been stocking up on code giveaways? Are you ready to take the plunge and field skyped call in voice recordings of CAG'ers via a "voice mail" bag? Is Wombat prepared to trick shoot an apple off Shipwreck's head?? Do you have the poop story to end all poop stories??? Your listeners are dying to know!

#79 boredasfook   Let's Get Weird!!! CAGiversary!   288 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  


Posted 01 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

Great show guys this is an excellent time killer while on the bus and trolley. I agree with you Wombat Borderlands 2 is a lot more enjoyable by yourself. I've been having a real good time with Tokyo Jungle cant wait to hear Ships impressions. Interested in Half-Minute Hero Contest.

PS. Get well soon Wombat.

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#80 Alcedes   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   194 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:58 PM

Wombat: protip, use the free "Find Friends" app instead to track your wife, no need to use her password.

#81 Icedus   Starpointer CAGiversary!   80 Posts   Joined 5.5 Years Ago  

Posted 02 October 2012 - 12:36 AM

Wombat tells a lot of groaners, but the homing grenade thing made me laugh. Hope you're feelin' better.

#82 daminion   Bah CAGiversary!   2494 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:12 AM

i don't see what you guys have against the wiimote and nunchuck. I've never had a problem with the controller and it's a nice change of pace from the ps3 and 360 controllers.

One of my favorite games on the wii was excite truck -- and it wouldn't have been nearly the same awesome experience if it was done with a normal controller.

Good show as always -- and if you end up with a spare steam HMH code I'm in.

#83 Royale   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   25 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:49 AM

It's weird. My Wii has been a door stop for the last 3 years, but strangely I have a WiiU preordered. Why you ask? For the kids. They are 3 and 5 years old and while they love the xbox and even gaming on the PC, for some reason they really want to play Mario. I agree however with everyone that the wiiiiiimote needs to go. I handed it to my 5 year old at a friends house to play Mario Bros Wii and he could not figure it out.

Would love a Half Minute Hero code.

#84 grizbo   where were we CAGiversary!   132 Posts   Joined 6.5 Years Ago  

Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:16 PM

Enjoyed the show, as usual. I agree with the above comment about Cheapy needing to get an Otterbox for his son's hand-me-down iPhone, I have one on my 4S and despite my daughter's best efforts, it's still good as new.

Also, would really love a Half Minute Hero code and would put it to good use. Thanks for the contest.

#85 GeekWhenSpoken2   GeekWhenSpoken2 CAGiversary!   102 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  


Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:43 PM

Hey guys FYI, the Godaddy code: 'CAG5OFF30' doesn't seem to be working any longer.

#86 TestType   model fetishist CAGiversary!   339 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

Posted 02 October 2012 - 10:58 PM

It's been a few days since I listened to the show so I can't remember much about the details but thought I'd post cause I would like a Half-Minute Hero code please.

I will say that I agree with Shipwreck on the Wii motes, I don't really ever want to use one again, and I didn't even own a Wii. Most of the time it was only used to substitute a button press for a shake, which always supremely annoyed me, or some pointless pointy menu navigation.

Also, always been a fan of Wombat, I never understood why people like to complain about him. I like all his jokes, good or bad, they're funny either way.

Edit: Loving the PC love on the show since Cheapy and Shipwreck got their PCs. I'm a PC gamer foremost so it's good to hear more focus on the PC and some PC centric/exclusive games.
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#87 encendido5   Let's Go Mets!!! CAGiversary!   3968 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:08 AM

I will definitely be downloading mass effect when it comes out on PSN. I already have 2 and 3 and since they were on my backlog, I don't know anything about the story. It will be great to start from the beginning.... If I ever find the time. I'll have to go back and listen to your comments from when it came out :)

Would like a Half Minute Hero code please!

#88 shaggyc   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   398 Posts   Joined 5.7 Years Ago  

Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:31 AM

Loved the show. Glad to hear cheapy moving towards mouse and keyboard :)

Would love a half minute hero code as well.
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#89 blueArcana   ... --- ... CAGiversary!   671 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  


Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:57 PM

You guys seem to be my source for new & reviews of the DC animated movies. I'm looking foward to the new site design, whenever it gets around to coming out.

i'd also like a chance at the Half-Minute Hero codes


#90 polly   Karma Policeman CAGiversary!   382 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:38 PM

I just watched Cabin in the Woods and was thoroughly unimpressed. If that movie can't take itself seriously why should I? Maybe you could argue it's a super meta critique on the cut and paste unoriginality of the horror movie industry, but even then, just blog about it so I don't have to sit through a silly movie that can't decide if it's a comedy or a horror film.