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#511 tgk2044   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1070 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

Bosh should be traded. He really doesnt do much for the heat aside from block and rebound. I kind of feel bad for the guy. In Toronto he was the man, now he isnt even the 3rd wheel in the super friends anymore. All i see him do is not fit in and get yelled at by teammates.

 

Haha I thought the exact same thing.  I can't stand Bosh, but last night when Wade was yelling at him for not setting a pick, then Wade literally just dribbled/lost the ball out of bounds, all I could think of was, "that poor velociraptor gets no respect".  It happens at least once a game I swear.


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#512 Cheshire Wolf   CAG BALLER! CAGiversary!   57 Posts   Joined 4.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:04 PM

 

 

Spurs should have won the championship. But they lost it in game 6, and even in game 7 they made stupid turnovers, and danny green wow... he really turned from a positive into a super negative for the spurs in the last 2 games.  Its a shame really.
 
But now Lebron ranks up there with Adam Morrison as a two time NBA Champion.
 
Bosh should be traded. He really doesnt do much for the heat aside from block and rebound. I kind of feel bad for the guy. In Toronto he was the man, now he isnt even the 3rd wheel in the super friends anymore. All i see him do is not fit in and get yelled at by teammates.

danny green i justs a streaky shooter, he brings nothing else to the table. THat is why he bounced around the league for a while, before spurs took a chance on him. Chris bosh is basically useless, if he is not your first option, or second option in offense. He is most effective being the focal point of your offense.

The issue with bosh is that he's playing out of position. I hope the heat pick up a center and let bosh go back to his natural position.

 

Or trade him for someone like Z-BO or Lamarcus Aldridge, someone who is not necessarily a real center, but someone who would fit in Miami's system better. Nothing against Bosh, I've been diehard since birth but really started watching the Heat in '04 when Shaq came in, and as much as 3 trips to the Finals and 2 wins is a big deal I don't think we can 3peat with Bosh, but hey my team never ceases to amaze me. Regardless of who stays or goes at that position I think we can all agree a paycut is the minimum that needs to occur. Do you know Bosh makes as much as Lebron? That's fucking crazy.


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#513 rbanez   ♔♔ CAGiversary!   476 Posts   Joined 4.3 Years Ago  

Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:01 PM

The best thing about this series were Pops' press conferences in Games 6 and 7.

 

I actually think Coach Pop does the best press conf in all of NBA.. The dude is godly in trolling reporters and he knows it LMAO.

 

As for bosh... I really do believe Miami needs him to stay, but boy he is overpaid AF this next season. The best thing for the heat to do is to ask someone from the big 3 (or all 3 of them) to take a pay cut (if that is possible in nba's cba). They need bosh as he can somewhat stretch the floor for lebron and wade. I doubt someone would want to trade for bosh after that performance and that huge contract. But if trading bosh is inevitable I would want the heat to go after its KLove. Think about all the possibilities on a lineup with James, Wade and Love gdamn. (uh oh there is a hidden joke on that lineup lol)

 

They key for heat 3peating like lebron said is guys taking improvement this off-season very seriously.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:26 PM

The only outcome from the Finals that I actually care about is that the time when teams can start talking to free agents is right around the corner.



#515 irideabike   no show CAGiversary!   6027 Posts   Joined 6.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:22 PM

He wants real fans to show up so that they can all cry together when they lose.

 

:baby:

 

Lebron took over and showed the world yet again he is the best player alive right now.  2 MVP's, 2 Finals MVP's, and an Olympic gold medal all within the past two years.  It has been fun to watch, bow to the king :bow:


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

Did Magic, mj  die?

 

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:21 PM

Clippers just landed Doc RIvers for a 1st rd pick. Not sure what their roster will look like yet but they now have one of the best coaches in today's game running them.


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:25 PM

Clippers just landed Doc RIvers for a 1st rd pick. Not sure what their roster will look like yet but they now have one of the best coaches in today's game running them.

Doc Rivers is overrated, Lionel Hollins would of been the better choice. Docs rivers will have harder time in the stronger western conference, than the weak eastern conference.



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:50 PM

While I am not questioning the fact that Hollins would've been a nice hire, I definitely disagree that Doc Rivers is overrated. In my opinion, he's easily been the 2nd best coach in the league (behind Popovich obviously) for years now. Dealing with change around his aging core over the years and keeping them competitive is not an easy feat.

 

This year's team specifically shows Rivers' genius. Had to fill Ray Allen's role, then lost his best player and floor general halfway into the season and still they finished over .500 with a 37 year old KG and 35 year old Paul Pierce leading the way. They didn't exactly have the best role players either but they earned the 7th seed and gave New York a much bigger fight than most people thought. That 20-0 run in game 6 was the fight I expect to see from a Doc Rivers team. I'm excited to see him run a young team (assuming they keep most of that group together)


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#520 thamaster24   Go Bucs! CAGiversary!   1341 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:21 AM

I'm not a guy that likes to talk about the Heat too much, ESPN has that covered, but I do want to say two things about them: (1) LBJ is a great player and with the exception of game 3 (bizarre but everyone has off nights) had to carry that team to a title with help from a random player each game; (2) Miami, while the best team in the league this season, does not deserve a shoutout in the "greatest teams of all time discussion". 

 

It just goes to show how different the reg season is compared to the playoffs. If the Heat roster is the exact same, they are still the favorites, but there are many contenders esp if Westbrook and Rose are healthy.  Last thing about them, which is what others have said on podcasts and articles, is how did they win 27 games and yet still have no shows in the playoffs.  All the talk about them and the non-stop ESPN promotion/shock (when lose it's because they didn't play hard) created this perception that they were unbeatable, when they truly were beatable in a few ways.  Hell, they should've been beaten by the Spurs this series. 

 

All credit goes to the crazy quarter LeBron had in game 6 and the weird dynamic of game 7 with Battier hitting 6 threes and Chalmers hitting that crazy almost-half-court shot at the end of the 3rd.  I'm not sure what they do in the reg season next year, I mean we know that they will coast in the reg season and be right up there with the best record, but if Wade's not 100% and Bosh loses his jumper again, the question becomes does LeBron want to operate a team doing all the heavy lifting in the future?

 

As much as everyone is shitting on this year's draft, usually there are at least a few good players in each one.  I'm also hoping we get more action on draft night because last year was a snoozefest.  I'm also hoping the Grizz can throw something at the Celtics so they can potentially get Paul Pierce, highly unlikely but it would be a nice deal for the Grizz.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:51 AM

Surely this draft class won't be as bad as the 2000 draft class.

 

http://en.wikipedia..../2000_NBA_Draft


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:28 AM

Oh god, Chris Mihm. I forgot about him. At least we got a lot of great names out of that draft (Scoonie Penn, Hedo Turkoglu, Keyon Dooling, Mateen Cleaves).

 

I found it crazy when I saw that rumors were circulating about the Cavs loving Alex Len, which seemed to be such a stretch for the #1 pick. I'd have to think it'll either be Otto Porter or Nerlens Noel. It would be nice to see them get a potentially great SF instead of just sticking with the guy that's clearly a better option than Omri Casspi.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

Oh god, Chris Mihm. I forgot about him. At least we got a lot of great names out of that draft (Scoonie Penn, Hedo Turkoglu, Keyon Dooling, Mateen Cleaves).

 

I found it crazy when I saw that rumors were circulating about the Cavs loving Alex Len, which seemed to be such a stretch for the #1 pick. I'd have to think it'll either be Otto Porter or Nerlens Noel. It would be nice to see them get a potentially great SF instead of just sticking with the guy that's clearly a better option than Omri Casspi.

 

Nerlens Noel makes me nervous as hell. I don't know why. If I had a top 5 pick, I wouldn't even be looking at him.

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#524 FriskyTanuki   Old Fashioned Pizza Lawyer CAGiversary!   58699 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago   Has been playing Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth
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Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:30 PM

The last thing the Cavs needs is another big man with injury issues, as they've been dealing with that stuff since they drafted Big Z over a decade ago.

 

http://probasketball...pick-discussed/

 

The first major trade rumor for the draft has Washington getting Luol Deng for the #3 pick.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:28 PM

The last thing the Cavs needs is another big man with injury issues, as they've been dealing with that stuff since they drafted Big Z over a decade ago.

 

http://probasketball...pick-discussed/

 

The first major trade rumor for the draft has Washington getting Luol Deng for the #3 pick.

Also, there were talks a couple days ago about Dallas and Cleveland swapping the 13th and 19th pick, with the Cavs absorbing Marion's 9+mil contract for next season. Gives them the SF they need along with another lottery pick. That was out there along with CLE offering two 2nd rd picks for Paul Pierce. Not sure how Boston feels about that but they have less than a week to decide to buyout that $15 mil contract for $5 mil...Either way, CLE want that SF.

 

I personally would really hate losing Matrix if it doesn't result in a huge FA (like a Dwight perhaps :))


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:37 PM

From the article I read earlier about the Doc Rivers trade, it was suggested that Boston's going to buy out the rest of Paul Pierce's contract, so anybody that wants him just has to wait for that.

 

I heard about the Dallas trade, but there wasn't much concrete about it since there were other rumors about Cavs trades floating around that made it seem more like a smokescreen than a likely thing.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:45 AM

I REALLY hope that Deng Wizards trade goes through for my Bulls. Jimmy Buckets is on the up and up and offers everything Deng does with limitless energy to boot. Oladipo or Mclemore  at 2, Rose, Butler, Noah and whenever we dump Boozer with any other potential signings would make the Bulls contenders, especially in the East, for the next half-decade.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:14 PM

I highly doubt that Dallas does anything with Marion except maybe have him opt out and sign a longer deal. Dude is a beast and one of the best glue guys in the NBA. His defense slipped a little last year, but I think that had more to do with having everyone else play less than stellar defense. Dude plays the 2-4 and always guards the other teams best player. He also is still a quality rebounder and can put up buckets when needed. 

 

If Washington goes through with that trade, that team is going to compete very well in the East last year. Once they got rolling, they were a pretty good team. They could win a playoff series next year if everyone is healthy.



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:23 PM

Bulls and Deng talking extension

 

http://sports.yahoo....-171420751.html


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#530 PimpLimp   Pimpin Aint Easy CAGiversary!   1464 Posts   Joined 4.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Looks like Thomas Robinson is on his way out the door with the Rockets. I've read that they have deals on the table with both the Bulls and Cavs, with the Rockets getting either the 19th or 20th pick in the draft. This also clears cap for the Rockets to go after Dwight Howard.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:38 PM

Looks like Thomas Robinson is on his way out the door with the Rockets. I've read that they have deals on the table with both the Bulls and Cavs, with the Rockets getting either the 19th or 20th pick in the draft. This also clears cap for the Rockets to go after Dwight Howard.

And coincidently (maybe/maybe not), T-Rob was in Cleveland last night for an LL Cool J concert.

 

According to Alex Kennedy, Cleveland has offered New Orleans the No. 1 pick for Greivis Vasquez, the No. 6 pick and a 2014 first-round pick...would you take that move if you were the Pelicans? I feel that CLE is overpricing the value of that top pick.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:46 PM

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Holy shit, the rumors have certainly picked up for the Cavs. If you're wondering where all of the rumors are at, they're in Cleveland. Here's a quick summary:

 

  • CJ Miles for the Nets' 22nd Pick
  • 1st Pick to NO for Greivis Vasquez, 6th Pick, and 2014 Pick
  • 31st and 33rd Pick to Dallas for Shawn Marion and 13th pick to get Karasev
  • 19th Pick to Houston for Thomas Robinson
  • 1st Pick, Tristan Thompson, and Dion Waiters to Minnesota for Kevin Love
  • 1st and 19th Picks to Portland for LaMarcus Aldridge
  • And a couple of rumors about players they'd consider trading to get (Len, Kidd-Gilchrist)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:35 PM

http://espn.go.com/l...ngeles-clippers

 

Wow. Celts and Clippers can't trade players next year because of Rivers going to the Clippers.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:55 PM

thank god for the clippers.  they were trying to pull together a team to compete for the 2008 finals.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:43 PM

The Cleveland Cavaliers take F Anthony Bennett from UNLV with the #1 pick.

 

Edit: The NBA's doing the same stupid thing with their draft hats that the NFL did, where they have something on the underside of the bill that only works for tall people?

 

Edit 2: Wow. Nerlens Noel has dropped past at least the 5th pick.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:28 AM

The Cleveland Cavaliers take F Anthony Bennett from UNLV with the #1 pick.

Edit: The NBA's doing the same stupid thing with their draft hats that the NFL did, where they have something on the underside of the bill that only works for tall people?

Edit 2: Wow. Nerlens Noel has dropped past at least the 5th pick.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:51 AM

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:43 AM

Noel got sent to 76ers for Holiday and picks.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:59 AM

Damn. Boston trades Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry to the Nets for the 2014, 2016, and 2018 1st round picks along with Gerald Wallace and a few other pieces to even out the money part of it. It won't actually happen until July 10, so all of the details will be worked out by then.


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#540 PimpLimp   Pimpin Aint Easy CAGiversary!   1464 Posts   Joined 4.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:13 AM

Damn. Boston trades Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry to the Nets for the 2014, 2016, and 2018 1st round picks along with Gerald Wallace and a few other pieces to even out the money part of it. It won't actually happen until July 10, so all of the details will be worked out by then.

Holy shit is that a crazy trade. Assuming everyone can stay healthy, the Nets should have a damn good line up next year. Now I'm really interested in seeing what Jason Kidd can do as new head coach.

 

I don't see it as that smart a move on Bostons part though. Why make this trade with someone in your own division? And a team that went to the playoffs this year no less. I don't think those picks are going to be worth much either.