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MMA (UFC, Strikeforce, Bellator, Invicta, etc.) Discussion Thread -- Version II


#2011 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:03 PM

Wow...what in the Fuck, Japan? And I thought Gabby Garcia fighting that grandma was bad.

 

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Remember this? Well, that 12 year old ended up choking her 24 year old opponent unconscious.  :shock:

 

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#2012 DarkTower80   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1457 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 12:16 AM

Cyborg at it again.

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#2013 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 11:52 PM

Seriously pathetic. She hit a girl she probably outweighs by 50lbs. Suspend her and fold the stupid 145lbs division. 125 makes way more sense anyway. Big girls at 115 can go up and small girls at 135 can go down.

 

And of course, the obvious joke here is "roid rage". She's becoming the female Jon Jones...but without ever actually having any real accomplishments or challenging fights.



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Posted 27 May 2017 - 07:35 PM

Stop what you are doing right meow and look for the Matt Serra and Neil Degrasse Tyson video.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:13 PM

I don't know if they're re-airing the UFC Singapore card tonight, so I'll put this in spoilers just in case...

 

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#2016 DarkTower80   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1457 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 07:00 PM

Lol, Hendricks missed weight again and it was at middleweight this time.



#2017 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 07:28 PM

Jesus H Christ. Just cut him already. I can't believe he's that big of a dipshit.



#2018 Dokstarr   Tap, Snap or Nap CAGiversary!   2223 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:00 AM

What a crazy weeked off stuff.

 

Bellator:

 

Phil Davis and Bader have a repeat of one of the most boring fights possible.

 

Chandler rolls his ankle immediately and the fight is stopped.

 

Fedor and Mitrione almost KO eachother with the first punch of the night, but it ends with Fedor being laid out.

 

Pico who is supposed to be the biggest thing ever (with a Nike sponsorship before his first professional fight and was signed by Bellator like 3 years ago but allowed time to prepare for his MMA career and stardom) gets stopped in 20 seconds.during his first professional fight.

 

Chael and Wanderlei both need to retire. Then Chael calls out Fedor.

 

UFC:

 

BJ Penn needs to retire after that beat down.

 

Hendricks needs to retire after that beat down and for missing weight in a new weight class (hah).

 

Referee stopped the fight when Chisea was still awake. He may not have been able to escape, but there was like 15 seconds left and he was shifting the right direction. Pretty crappy way to end the night.

 

And finally - the highlight of the night was Kish crapping herself in her fight. That was pretty nasty - I've seen some suspicious marks on people pants in the UFC before (Big Tim and Romero) but never just a big case of shits spread over the mat. Extra nasty.



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Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:44 AM



#2020 Gears24   CAG CAGiversary!   1809 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:52 AM

It was a bad stoppage, but there was still over 20 seconds left and it looked like it was heading in that direction. Still a bad call. Pretty disappointing fight.



#2021 Dokstarr   Tap, Snap or Nap CAGiversary!   2223 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:55 AM

Was Chisea going to survive or get out? Probably not, but he should've been given every chance to get out. And it also robbed Lee of getting the tap out or choking him out.  I'm sure the ref thought he was out, but he was wrong. Sucks for both guys. It was also only the first round, so if Chisea did survive til the end it would've been nice to see how the rest played out.



#2022 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 02:24 AM

Daaaamn, Manuwa got starched!

 

As excited as I am about this card, I wish Cerrone/Lawler had been rescheduled as the main event of a different card. We really deserved for that fight to be five rounds. The UFC completely blew that one.

 

*sigh* I wish Cyborg would ever fight a legitimate challenger. Tonya Evinger is ridiculous. I seriously doubt she could even beat Ronda. She only lasted that long because Cyborg was being patient and relishing the moment.

 

And apparently, Tyron Woodley is content to be the Floyd Mayweather of the UFC. People used to give GSP shit about being boring, but I'm not sure I've ever seen anybody fight as defensively as Woodley has been lately. I guess in some ways, he dominates by not allowing his opponent to do anything. But he has to understand that it creates a situation where it's barely a fight. At least GSP would jab a wrestler to death, or repeatedly put a striker on their ass. Woodley just avoids the entire fight.

 

Please don't let us down Jones/DC...

 

WOOOOO! Did not disappoint! :lol: Jones brutalized Cormier. Wow.

 

Pissed at Rogan though for interviewing DC after that. He even talked about hating doing it...then he does it anyway. Then he points out afterward what a terrible idea it was. I feel like he owes DC an apology and then should really refuse to interview fighters after they get devastated like that. And if the UFC brass has a problem with it, he should just stick to his podcast. That was just painful to watch...worse than the KO.



#2023 Gears24   CAG CAGiversary!   1809 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 30 July 2017 - 05:09 PM

I have to watch the fight over again, but I had Cerrone winning. It was 1-1 going into the third, but I thought Cerrone took the 3rd. 

 

Also apparently GSP vs Bisping is back on even though Dana White said the winner of Woodley v Maia would get GSP, but I guess after that boring fight it led to that decision. 



#2024 blueweltall   Kill the Batman CAGiversary!   6216 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 06:08 PM

I thought Cerrone won too. It's getting to be a joke every time it goes to decision with Boxing and MMA.



#2025 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 07:33 PM

I don't know. I'm a Cowboy fan, and I thought the 3rd round felt decidedly different from the 2nd. Lawler turned it back on, and he hurt Cerrone with that body kick. After that, Cerrone started shooting weak takedowns and just didn't look nearly as comfortable as he did in the 2nd. I think the fight was too close to say anybody got "robbed". I honestly would have been happy with a draw to force an instant rematch...as a 5 round main event. Having that fight be only 3 rounds cheated us all.

 

As for Bisping - GSP, Dana is right. Bisping will actually fight. So, why not give him the payday instead of Woodley? As much as Woodley has talked about wanting "super fights", he acts like he has no obligation to make the fight interesting. I saw at the post fight press conference, somebody even asked Dana about Woodley being "like Mayweather". But there has to be something about the guy to make people care. I don't even think people DISLIKE Woodley enough to care.

 

And same thing with GSP, some people thought he was a boring fighter...but he was always extremely likable. If Woodley wants to be strategic and calculated like GSP, great. So, jab Maia to death, use your power to bust him up, and shut down what he wants to do. There's no shame in outpointing him. But there is shame in not trying to score points at all. If you look at it round by round, Woodley only outlanded Maia by 2-3 punches each round. That's just ridiculous. He can't perform like that and then be shocked that the big money fights aren't rolling in.



#2026 Dokstarr   Tap, Snap or Nap CAGiversary!   2223 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2017 - 03:16 AM

Good night of fights.

 

Happy to see that guy beat Manuwa. Manuwa has never super impressed me and it seems like they are always just trying to push him when he isn't ready or capable.

 

I agree with the Lawler decision. It was close but I gave it to Lawler.

 

Woodley vs Maia was about as bad as could ever be expected. I blame that mostly on Woodley though. Maia kept coming forward, would try to strike and go for takedowns. He just has crappy striking and couldn't get the takedowns at all. Woodley could've turned it up any time and potentially finished him but he didn't want to commit at all and would never even think of following him down if he hurt him. It was definitely the safest way possible but made for an extremely boring fight. I wasn't sure Maia would be able to get him down, but was hoping. Woodley is a strong wrestler and a very good base and a low center of gravity. Maia taking down Gunnar, Condit, and Brown and dominating them was impressive but getting those guys down is a lot easier than Woodley. To bad Condit got beat by Maia since I think he would beat Woodley.

 

Cyborg was as expected. A division completely made for her with nobody else in it. They were talking about about Holly moving up to fight her, etc. It just seems crazy to make a division for one fighter and now she is the champ of a division that she is the only person in.

 

DC and Jones was really good. Jones took the 1st, DC the 2nd and then the head kick. Felt bad for DC since he seemed to be picking up steam but that is the way it goes. The other problem is now the division is cleaned out - they could go with Volkan (but he has no name recognition at all) or a rematch with Gus. Gus is probably the fight to make since he gave Jones his toughest fight yet but it is hard giving Gus another shot after losing to Jones, Rumble and DC in the last two years. I do think Gus has a better chance than most to beat Jones since the last fight showed Jones does not know how to handle someone the same size as him. He was not prepared for similar height and reach and it showed in that razor close fight that half the people think Gus won. I'm sure Jones would prepare correctly this time, but it would be interesting.

 

Don't know why Rogan interviewed DC. I'm not saying don't interview any fighter who has be KO'd or TKO'd but take it by a case by case basis. Cormier was obviously confused and agitated running around the ring, so lets shove a microphone in his face.

 

Weird that there are no big fights until September now. There is Connor vs Floyd - blargh



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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:54 AM

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:56 AM

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#2029 ygoloib  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 01:56 AM

man hope he's not that stupid. also let's be honest cormier ain't no real champ, he's more of a runner up/silver medalist

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 02:26 AM

How is DC not a champ?  Gus, Rumble x 2, Silva.  Beat the #1 Contender twice and beat the guy who gave JJ his only beat down.


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 03:54 AM

Can't really see him being back in the UFC tbh.

#2032 Dokstarr   Tap, Snap or Nap CAGiversary!   2223 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:18 AM

man hope he's not that stupid. also let's be honest cormier ain't no real champ, he's more of a runner up/silver medalist

Jones should be given the chance to prove himself innocent - but if it comes out that he cheated again then his career is pretty much done. Going by the rules, the recommended suspension is 4 years. I would think (and they should) throw the book at him to show that no single fighter is above the rules.

 

Also that would have to make Cormier the real champ. Cormier showed up clean to fight while Jones cheated and was caught (again). Would Jones be the real champ if he was caught  cheating some other way? intentionally poking the eyes (more than he usually does), intentional low blows, or using loaded gloves? How many times can someone be caught cheating and still be the real champ?



#2033 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:22 PM

I was one of the biggest Jon Jones fans, and completely saw him as the greatest fighter ever. But he's messed up his career worse than Mike Tyson at this point. Tyson was freaking more innocent than Jones has been the past 3 years. I mean, go all the way back to the first Cormier fight and the "out of competition" drug test. This is his THIRD failed drug test. Throw in the legal issues on top of that, and I don't know how he doesn't become the frontrunner for biggest waste of talent in sports history.

 

The dumbest thing is he's such a freak athlete, you have to wonder how much steroids even help him. I've seen people say "The only reason he ever won a fight is clearly because of steroids". Right...clearly that person has no clue how steroids work. They don't account for Jon's agility, his speed, his fight IQ, his creativity, etc. Did they help keep him stronger than DC? Possibly. And that sucks. It sucks that Jones is so mentally weak that he can't trust his ability and his hard work and his team to be enough to get the job done.

 

The really sad part is it's hard to even know if it's just Jones. People go right back to calling Anderson Silva the GOAT...but somehow fail to remember that he got popped for steroids as well. But most people just brushed it off because "oh, he's old now". But it begs the question of whether more fighters are turning to PEDs or if the testing is just better and catching people more now. A guy like Anderson may have just benefitted from timing. He may have been no different from Jones, but was just fortunate that the era he thrived in wasn't under the same scrutiny as MMA is today.

 

I guess we'll see what the B sample says, but I'll be shocked if it comes back different. Things like this don't tend to accidentally happen...let alone to the same guy this many times. Jones can't just be the boy who cried "boner pills" all the time.



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 05:26 AM

Mayweather won as expected, but what was unexpected is McGregor lasting to the 10th. Than again that was Mayweather plan and it also doesn't look good that the best in the world need 10 rounds to defeat an amatuer.

 

In the end Mayweather got his 50-0 and McGregor got his payday. A win-win situation for both parties.



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:41 PM

Mayweather won as expected, but what was unexpected is McGregor lasting to the 10th. Than again that was Mayweather plan and it also doesn't look good that the best in the world need 10 rounds to defeat an amatuer.

 

In the end Mayweather got his 50-0 and McGregor got his payday. A win-win situation for both parties.

The only payday that was easier was against Ortiz. Mayweather was on cruise control until the 8th and didn't need 10 rounds to get the job done. He decided that it was better to go to 10 instead of decision after 12, which is what would've happened if Mayweather started dominating at 3 like he usually does. McGregor should've been penalized for all those hammers and keeping his arm out for 9 rounds like Khan did. Good call on the ref to stop the fight though.

 

Easy money for Mayweather.


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 06:50 PM

To me this was way better than the pac man fight. 



#2037 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 11:56 PM

The only payday that was easier was against Ortiz. Mayweather was on cruise control until the 8th and didn't need 10 rounds to get the job done. He decided that it was better to go to 10 instead of decision after 12, which is what would've happened if Mayweather started dominating at 3 like he usually does. McGregor should've been penalized for all those hammers and keeping his arm out for 9 rounds like Khan did. Good call on the ref to stop the fight though.

 

Easy money for Mayweather.

Well, I'd say Mayweather played it smart. I've seen a bunch of people saying stuff like "He could have ended it in the 1st round if he wanted to!" But the whole point of the gameplan was wearing McGregor out so that his punches didn't have anything on them anymore. If Floyd had come out aggressive from the get go, when Conor was fresh, he could have gotten countered with something very hard.

 

So, I have no qualms with saying Mayweather outclassed McGregor, but I think it's disingenuous to act like McGregor was never a threat at all. Had Floyd fought the first rounds like he did at the end, things could have gotten crazy. But he was very smart, tactical, and disciplined about it. It was a perfect gameplan, perfectly executed.

 

And say what you want about hammerfists, but Floyd also threw some forearms to the neck and turned his back and turtled numerous times...both of which are also illegal in boxing. But Mayweather has been getting away with that stuff his entire career. I thought it was decent that the ref gave both of them a bit of an extended leash. Made it look more like an actual fight, instead of just Floyd exploitng technicalities for 36 minutes.

 

I also found it a little humorous that Mayweather was so proud of himself for "going at him like I said I would". He basically just announced to to the world how unusual it is for him to go out there and actually engage in a fight, lol. Like Conor said, he got him to fight like a Mexican. :lol:

 

Also...just to be clear, if Floyd had been brave enough to allow something as minute as leg kicks, he'd be dead right now.



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 02:26 AM

I don't disagree with you at all. Mayweather has been in the ring with bigger dudes and completely neutralized them. His was the safest strategy and it worked. I fully expected Mayweather to start picking up the pace at round 3, which he did, but clearly didn't turn McGregor's face into hamburger as the rounds started ticking by. It definitely added to the drama and I expected McGregor to run out of gas before he did, but there was a small part of me that thought that McGregor would go the distance since he still looked decent in round 8. Seeing him completely gassed and defenseless in 9 quickly brought me back to reality.

 

I lol'd at the "fight like a mexican." Sorry dude, but you didn't do anything and neither did he.


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#2039 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16857 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

I don't disagree with you at all. Mayweather has been in the ring with bigger dudes and completely neutralized them. His was the safest strategy and it worked. I fully expected Mayweather to start picking up the pace at round 3, which he did, but clearly didn't turn McGregor's face into hamburger as the rounds started ticking by. It definitely added to the drama and I expected McGregor to run out of gas before he did, but there was a small part of me that thought that McGregor would go the distance since he still looked decent in round 8. Seeing him completely gassed and defenseless in 9 quickly brought me back to reality.

 

I lol'd at the "fight like a mexican." Sorry dude, but you didn't do anything and neither did he.

Yeah, it was weird seeing how well he did in round 8, and then just totally disappeared. In a weird way, I almost think if he had come into the fight a little smaller and really focused on going the distance, he might have done even better. At the very least, it would have forced Floyd's hand in needing to score points before McGregor was out of gas. I'm sure he could have. It just would have been interesting to see.

 

I've seen some people talking about the outcome being "too perfect" so it must have been rigged. I guess I get where they're coming from...it was an exciting fight with an ending that left basically everybody looking good. But I don't know. They were out there throwing real punches that actually landed. It's hard for me to call it staged when either of them could have landed something that ended the whole thing at any moment. I just think the likely outcome was likely for a reason. McGregor did as well as he could considering the circumstances, and Floyd did what Floyd has done 49 consecutive times.

 

And it was better than the Pacquiao fight, haha.



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Posted 10 September 2017 - 05:19 AM

Don't agree that Amanda won that fight. Wouldn't necessary say that Valentina was "robbed" but I don't agree with the decision.