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#841 Velo214   Chilln like a Villain CAGiversary!   8434 Posts   Joined 7.7 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:21 AM

argh, just don't buy that stuff.
the only ones that really upset me, and im mello vello, so im not ever really upset, but the bot capacity/bot speed dlcs. $5 each, really?! just to increase the resource gathering. so i have to pay more so i won't have to 'grind' as much. argh. even if i don't want micro transactions, it is going to negatively effect the game because you know they have lowered the resource gathering so that these transactions become the way to go. im just gonna get it free/cheap doing this bb preorder, but ugh. and yeah they had dlc in deadspace 1/2, but it wasnt anything like these multiple micro transactions. this micro$ shit is supposed to be in free to play games, now they expect us to pay msrp $60 and give them more not even for story/mp dlc, but just for crap resources. so they expect me to pay them $ so i will play the game less? ugh. EA continually destroying the video game economy. project $10, micro transactions in full priced games, etc. ugh idk.

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#842 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9683 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:22 AM

Wasn't talking about you personally. I was just saying if that were case--and it obviously is for the vast majority of people, otherwise EA would not continue doing this--than it is both futile and a bit hypocritical.

Though the on-disc off-disc DLC distinction is obnoxious. The price of an item is determined by how much people are willing to pay for it, not its production costs nor timing. It doesn't matter one little bit if the DLC could've been included for a small cost to the developer or not. In either case, the developer could've waited and finished all the potential DLC ahead of time. Doesn't matter. People pay for it, they're going to charge for it. Simple as that. The pseudo-ethical distinction between on-disc and off-disc DLC or day-1 and day-100 DLC notwithstanding.


Fair enough. Sorry I thought you were speaking to me. Anyway, my stance is pretty clear that I am more willing to spend full price for a full game at launch. It actually bothers me more when these small things are left out because they are so meaningless it stinks of cash grab. I do not mind some DLC. Games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Borderlands, etc seem to have the model down right. The Dead Space model, while maybe lucrative, just rubs me the wrong way.

Edit: I should say complete game. Things that change the game like the resource gathering while not essential are just manipulative devices I do not want in my $60 games.

#843 panda911   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   996 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:29 AM

I know most of you do not care about the DS3 microtransaction stuff or DLC but I thought I would at least put out there the day 1 DLC shit. Stuff you know that COULD be in the game but EA says Fuck that.

In today's PlayStation Store update, Sony revealed the details on Dead Space 3's controversial microtransactions and downloadable content, spilling the beans on what you'll be able to buy and how much it'll set you back. Let's see if it's everything those mobile gamers expect!

A basic resource pack will set you back a buck, with more significant upgrades and item packs costing five dollars each. The microtransactions will help you get non-paid gear too, as you can buy more scavenger bots (and purchase "personalities" for them) in order to reap in-game rewards. Available is an "accelerator" for the bots -- presumably a way to get your resources faster than the game ordinarily allows.

The list also confirms something we all expected -- an online pass, charging secondhand buyers $9.99 for the privilege of accessing the online co-op mode.

Check out the full microtransaction details below.

Bot Capacity Upgrade $4.99
Bot Personality Pack $4.99
First Contact Pack Free
Marauder Pack $4.99
Sharpshooter Pack $4.99
Tundra Recon Pack $4.99
Witness the Truth Pack $4.99
Bot Accelerator $4.99
Epic Weapon & Resource Pack $2.99
Online Pass $9.99
Ultra Weapon & Resource Pack $1.99
Resource Pack $0.99

Read more at http://www.destructo...X6Tpt3zVpKMJ.99


That all sounds like the shortcut packs that EA has been doing for a while now. And EA has been putting online passes in games for like 4 years now. Not saying that you can't be peeved at this, just that this isn't a surprise.

#844 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9683 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:33 AM

That all sounds like the shortcut packs that EA has been doing for a while now. And EA has been putting online passes in games for like 4 years now. Not saying that you can't be peeved at this, just that this isn't a surprise.


Yeah I am not surprised but rather disappointed that this stuff keeps getting pushed further and further. I buy DLC. I am not against it when it feels like a real effort. This does not feel like effort. It feels like manipulation.

I know some people don't like Jim Sterling but his video this week on the DLC issue was pretty good. People should check it out.

http://www.escapistm...nes-of-Business

FYI...some salty language.

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#845 panda911   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   996 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:47 AM

Yeah I am not surprised but rather disappointed that this stuff keeps getting pushed further and further. I buy DLC. I am not against it when it feels like a real effort. This does not feel like effort. It feels like manipulation.


Be sure to vote with your wallet then.

#846 MetalSlugger   :P CAGiversary!   2688 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:04 AM

"Man, Fuck EA! The $60 I paid for this game should've covered the option to play itself!"

Seriously, get a grip.

#847 PhilsUtley26   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   399 Posts   Joined 4.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:17 AM

Crysis beta was ok. I enjoyed 2, but doesn't look like a Day 1 buy. With EA though I'm sure it has a online pass.

#848 panda911   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   996 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:30 AM

Crysis beta was ok. I enjoyed 2, but doesn't look like a Day 1 buy. With EA though I'm sure it has a online pass.


This beta was the first time I've played Crysis and I don't get it. I'm not particularly fond of fps's that allow you to go invisible and I'd imagine most people would be the same. That seems to be a major point of the multiplayer and thus not for me.

#849 PhilsUtley26   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   399 Posts   Joined 4.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:14 AM

This beta was the first time I've played Crysis and I don't get it. I'm not particularly fond of fps's that allow you to go invisible and I'd imagine most people would be the same. That seems to be a major point of the multiplayer and thus not for me.


Cloak will make alot of people rage quit especially if you have snipers camping high. I don't like the high jumping either as people just start jumping when they get shot. Just rent it for the campaign.

#850 xFatalFlaw   Dango Daikazoku! CAGiversary!   1433 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:57 AM

Cloak will make alot of people rage quit especially if you have snipers camping high. I don't like the high jumping either as people just start jumping when they get shot. Just rent it for the campaign.


Cloak doesn't last long and there is kill cam so if someone is camping somewhere they can find that person. Also what's to stop you from sniping with cloak to kill the guy? Seems like a poor reason to not play the MP. If you're not a MP person fine but that reasoning is quite stupid to not play it especially when it can be easily countered.

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#851 Kevlar338   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1016 Posts   Joined 4.1 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:02 AM

Really? I was planning on doing this. I don't feel like going instore to pick up my copy, but it seems I might have to now.

As for those microtransactions, EA can go Fuck themeselves. They already have story dlc being made for the game. If its anything like Sever, its most likely gonna cost $10 and only last an hour or two.


I had the same back order problem with both dead space and crysis but I just got an email stating the back order email was an error ( most likely from when they went up on the best buy website for 5 $ lol ) the games will ship or be ready for store pick up on time .

#852 MetalSlugger   :P CAGiversary!   2688 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:11 AM

Not to get too off topic but my main problem with the beta is how much useless bullshit is built into the HUD; there's just too much random crap beamed into your face. Crysis has always struck me as a poor man's Halo anyway.

#853 panda911   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   996 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:58 AM

Cloak doesn't last long and there is kill cam so if someone is camping somewhere they can find that person. Also what's to stop you from sniping with cloak to kill the guy? Seems like a poor reason to not play the MP. If you're not a MP person fine but that reasoning is quite stupid to not play it especially when it can be easily countered.

If you don't move when you're cloaked, it lasts almost a minute. That can probably be changed but that's ridiculous.

Not to get too off topic but my main problem with the beta is how much useless bullshit is built into the HUD; there's just too much random crap beamed into your face. Crysis has always struck me as a poor man's Halo anyway.

I don't know what's up with EA games lately having the absolute worst HUDs and menus. First Warfighter and now Crysis. Get a UI guy EA!

#854 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9683 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:17 AM

"Man, Fuck EA! The $60 I paid for this game should've covered the option to play itself!"

Seriously, get a grip.



Oh look we got a badass here! People like you who just let crap happen to them are the reason EA does this stuff. You need to get some reality.

#855 Youngnoble   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   899 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:57 AM

Sorry if this has been asked a million times but if i cancel a preorder that I used a reward cert on, does the cert come back to my account or is it gone? I kinda want to change my platform version of MGR but i'm scared I'll lose the $20 cert I used on it. This is a bestbuy.com order. I'll probably call CS and just have them switch it to be safe.

#856 malfcn   CAGalicious! CAGiversary!   2267 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:03 AM

Can someone again explain how price matching BBY or another retailer works with the $20 reward? Can it be done and not lost?

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#857 Youngnoble   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   899 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:11 AM

Can someone again explain how price matching BBY or another retailer works with the $20 reward? Can it be done and not lost?


Yes as long as they don't return it you don't lose the $20 cert. It will say price match on your receipt.

#858 Enuf   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   8191 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:51 AM

As for those microtransactions, EA can go Fuck themeselves. They already have story dlc being made for the game. If its anything like Sever, its most likely gonna cost $10 and only last an hour or two.

I play thegame with companies like EA & Capcom. Just buy the vanilla game if it comes with credit or a good deal. I never buy DLC & just wait for the complete/GOTY with the way DS3 looks there will be a complete or trilogy pack & I'll get that @ $20.

I don't want the franchise to die(even though I'm not a fam of them moving towards RE instead of silent Hill) but I hope this can be changed down the line.

#859 red_devil32   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   103 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:12 AM

I have been hesitant to get the Unlocked membership cause I refuse to pay the $15 fee and pay more than $30 for a game lol. But I really regret that, I could have got around $10 more over the winter break when doing trade in. Ugh! Anyway, about to get my $15 certificate from doing bestbuy facebook polls. Will pre order Tomb Raider, GTA IV and Last of Us. Hopefully the Survival ed of The Last of Us will be included.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:33 AM

Cloak will make alot of people rage quit especially if you have snipers camping high. I don't like the high jumping either as people just start jumping when they get shot. Just rent it for the campaign.

I played 2 hours of the crysis beta, I probably only got sniped 4 times. Hunter mode is pretty fun, I had some good lol moments.

#861 splattered   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   369 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

Errr just played the Crysis 3 beta on 360 today, the trailers make it look SO much better than it actually is... glad i haven't preordered this one yet :/

#862 Killbomb   Waiting for Darkness CAGiversary!   2767 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:15 PM

Debating over getting Dead Space now using RZ points from previous offers or waiting for a good sale later on. Still have Ni No Kuni and DmC probably not even half finished each. Definitely not touching the DS3 DLC if I do pick it up. I rarely buy DLC anyway and I'm certainly not going to pay for shortcuts through the game.

#863 secondhand1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   26 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:21 PM

Oh look we got a badass here! People like you who just let crap happen to them are the reason EA does this stuff. You need to get some reality.


And people like you who don't really understand how the whole package has to come together and would rather piss and moan about it on the internet give rational gamers a bad name.

#864 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9683 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:46 PM

And people like you who don't really understand how the whole package has to come together and would rather piss and moan about it on the internet give rational gamers a bad name.


Really? Do tell then. How does this whole package have to come together? Please explain how shortcuts, character skins, and monetizing gameplay mechanics "brings the game together"? Try to explain how those things actually don't break the game into little pieces to sell in little chunks? This is a $60 release. Not a F2P game. I bitch because EA will continue to do this until it is pay to play and then pay some more without actually giving us anything. These are not MMOs or F2P games. You seem to think you understand what is happening here so enlighten me. How exactly is this type of thing good for us as gamers that you so desperately think I am giving a bad name. Would it just be better if I bent over and took it like a good little gamer?

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#865 Serpentor   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5048 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

I read that LEs/CEs are now part of the $20 promo? That's pretty awesome for GoW:A and LoU. Question, is there a cheap way to be an unlocked member? $15 magazine subscription is the only way? How do you pre-order the LEs/CEs?

#866 secondhand1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   26 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

Really? Do tell then. How does this whole package have to come together? Please explain how shortcuts, character skins, and monetizing gameplay mechanics "brings the game together"? Try to explain how those things actually don't break the game into little pieces to sell in little chunks? This is a $60 release. Not a F2P game. I bitch because EA will continue to do this until it is pay to play and then pay some more without actually giving us anything. These are not MMOs or F2P games. You seem to think you understand what is happening here so enlighten me. How exactly is this type of thing good for us as gamers that you so desperately think I am giving a bad name. Would it just be better if I bent over and took it like a good little gamer?


I don't pretend to understand the processes involved in getting a game from concept to market. That's the difference between me and people like you. You want to chalk it up unequivocally to scams and nickel and diming and greed and whatever else happens to be the flavor of the month for hating entities whose sole intention is to make money. The reality is, there are budgets and timelines and plans and teams and myriad other things involved that to take the hard line stance of Company vs. Gamer is ignorant and a little embarrassing.

I don't defend DLC or microtransactions or anything else. I realize that, like it or not, the publisher decides what I get for my $60. Anything above and beyond that complete package - and it is complete - is filler. I can take it or leave it. If I think it will add to my personal enjoyment of the game, then I consume it. If not, I ignore it. A novel idea, no?

It's not the downfall of the industry and the sky isn't falling, Chicken Little.

#867 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9683 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

I don't pretend to understand the processes involved in getting a game from concept to market. That's the difference between me and people like you. You want to chalk it up unequivocally to scams and nickel and diming and greed and whatever else happens to be the flavor of the month for hating entities whose sole intention is to make money. The reality is, there are budgets and timelines and plans and teams and myriad other things involved that to take the hard line stance of Company vs. Gamer is ignorant and a little embarrassing.

I don't defend DLC or microtransactions or anything else. I realize that, like it or not, the publisher decides what I get for my $60. Anything above and beyond that complete package - and it is complete - is filler. I can take it or leave it. If I think it will add to my personal enjoyment of the game, then I consume it. If not, I ignore it. A novel idea, no?

It's not the downfall of the industry and the sky isn't falling, Chicken Little.


See that is the thing. Explain how add-ons make budgets? Explain how producing optional items are somehow the savior of the game? The GAME should be the product. Not skins, microtransactions and other fillers. If budgets and timelines are so tight how else are these things not just cash grabs? It is not a defense to say you do have to partake and only have to if you love the game. It is basically extorting your best fans which is a slimy practice. CoD does not do this yet the supposedly superior BF3 does with its ridiculous unlock kits.

As far as downfall of the industry just ask THQ. This stuff is getting a backlash. Ask Capcom whose sale projections are far ahead of their sales reality. They will continue to push until they break.

#868 YBX87   CAGiversary! Banned   14405 Posts   Joined 4.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

Errr just played the Crysis 3 beta on 360 today, the trailers make it look SO much better than it actually is... glad i haven't preordered this one yet :/


also played the crysis 3 beta, nothing to write home about. probably going to flop in sales.

#869 cancerman1120   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9683 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:57 PM

also played the crysis 3 beta, nothing to write home about. probably going to flop in sales.


Crysis 2 only sold about 2.5 million worldwide. These are tech demos for Crytek. They make plenty on their engine. This game will sell about the same. Pre orders are in line with Dead Space 3 (less in the end) so that will be a flop also I guess.

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#870 Kyden139   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   200 Posts   Joined 6.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

See that is the thing. Explain how add-ons make budgets? Explain how producing optional items are somehow the savior of the game? The GAME should be the product. Not skins, microtransactions and other fillers. If budgets and timelines are so tight how else are these things not just cash grabs? It is not a defense to say you do have to partake and only have to if you love the game. It is basically extorting your best fans which is a slimy practice. CoD does not do this yet the supposedly superior BF3 does with its ridiculous unlock kits.


Why do you assume that addons and microtransactions aren't part of the budget? How are optional items bad? Theres a good chunk of time between a game being deemed done and the retail release. Why shouldn't they work on dlc?

You do realize game companies exist to make money, right?

Personally I didn't feel "extorted" by the existence of unlock kits in BF3. I simply didn't buy them. Same deal now with dead space. Its important to you, fair enough. Its not important to everyone.

Edited by Kyden139, 30 January 2013 - 04:58 PM.