Yeah, but even with Cat Ring and Ring of Binding, you can't get down the well as Hollow. At least now I know, which is good because I'm going to have to do it at least twice more in NG (once for the ledge I skipped where you have a choice of which way to fall, and once for the stone door that was locked that I'll have to come back to at some point, I assume).
I had the same problem. I suppose if you had a lot of levels into Vigor you might be able to be a little more hollow. My problem was beyond that not realizing you need a running jump at one point (until I saw a note about it - but there are so many trolling "jump" notes I'm always skeptical of them). I thought another platform was more directly below me and closer but apparently it was further down. I also saw some item on a lower platform that I had to pass up - will have to try to get back there during cleanup.
Speaking of which, I played for about 3 hours last night and it was just going back to previous areas and cleaning up a bit. I ran through a lot of the poison in Harvest Valley to get the treasures there. I still need to get back to the fire salamander area at some point.
I also ventured into Black Gulch a little bit. And I thought the poison traps in the Gutter were a pain
. I did manage to find the area you drop down to (with the locked stone door) and then down below that with the
. In any case, it seems like I was supposed to see an NPC on that ledge and I did not. I am waiting to fight the Sinner boss until I can summon her - and I guess I need to talk to her first or that doesn't happen. Yet she's not there...
So I tried to see if Manscorpion had a grave so I could revive him, but he didn't.
I do have a tip for another friendly NPC I found that I almost killed while also in the Shaded Woods ruin area. If you played the original Dark Souls and are that far into the game, I would suggest reading this as the NPC looks like an enemy from that game.
I also did this part last night. You can hear her making bird noises as you approach the door (and get attacked by the frog things). I just cautiously went in and waited to see if she attacked and when she didn't I approached to talk. Like with most things in these games, it is never good to rush in flailing your sword
. Now I need to see where she goes afterwards. The area past that is full of curse traps and lion warriors and some giant lizard thing. I killed off a few of the warriors and collected some treasure but then backed off and quit for the night.
At this point it seems like I have at least 5 places I could go. I unlocked the way to that PvP area with a Pharros Lockstone. I have more of Black Gulch (inlcuding the stone door - does the key from down below open that?). I have the Sinner's Rise boss (I assume that is what is down that elevator). Back in Huntsmans Corpse I have the path with all the tough knights that leads to a red phantom and a mist door. I helped someone else as a summon there but haven't done it myself. I have the area past the lion warriors in Shaded Woods ruin. I have earlier parts of Shaded Woods (in the fog) that I have not fully explored. I have other parts of Huntsman's Corpse I have not explored. Oh yeah, and there is that Earthen Keep part I found right after the fat hammer dudes in Harvest Valley. There's probably more I'm not even aware of. Oh yeah, one more is the fire salamander area near the first boss back in Forest of the Giants.
I kind of love all the options here and it definitely seems more extensive and wide open at this point than Dark Souls despite starting off a little more restricted.