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Dark Souls II - Scholar of the First Sin - April 7, 2015


#721 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 04:30 AM

Supposedly a lightning infused Defender's sword is one of the best faith weapons since it is one of the few which scales S with faith, though it can't be buffed with sunlight blade since it has its own 2-handed R2 buff.

The attunement levels are confusing but thanks for the tip of going for 32 - I probably will do that. I got it to 25 last night and that actually gave me the extra casting slot. I guess that comes 1 level before you get another cast of the spears. It is kind of annoying because you'd never know you got the extra spears until after you chose the level beyond the slot, which I wouldn't have ever done without reading about it.

I think they did attunement that way so that you are always getting something for points. If not an extra spell slot, then an extra cast of a spell, or a little more agility, or a boost to cast speed. Attunement slots starts at 1 every 3 starting from 10, then 1 every 4 starting at 16, then 1 every 5 starting at 20, then 1 every 10 starting at 30. So 32 is probably where I am going to stop for quite awhile.

I thought about going to 38, but all I would really gain is one more cast of GLS, and 8 extra points for another spell slot (40) is kinda excessive.

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#722 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 18 April 2014 - 05:46 AM

Supposedly a lightning infused Defender's sword is one of the best faith weapons since it is one of the few which scales S with faith, though it can't be buffed with sunlight blade since it has its own 2-handed R2 buff.


Yeah, I did that. I finally used the weapon buff for the first time as a helper summons on the Ancient Dragon. And what do you know - we actually beat the thing! The host had summoned 2 of us but the other guy died on the steps along the way. Then he summoned Head of Vengarl and he made it most of the way but died near the end. But I couldn't believe we made it through. While I triggered the stomp attack several times and kept wailing on his toes, he also did the underneath breath attack a few times and even the AOE like 3 times. Somehow I managed to avoid them all this time!

So, yeah, apparently it is possible to beat the Ancient Dragon via coop. I have to say that was the first time playing this game that I actually felt somewhat badass ;).

And oh crap, I thought the game glitched on me. I was considering trading the King's Soul (for beating Vendrick) for his shield but Ornifex didn't give me the option. But I just read you have to go to Shrine of Amana to get his soul first. I had no idea - I just assumed I had it. And you have to be human apparently as well which is great since I just turned human again after completing the dragon fight.

Edit: I decided that since I couldn't decide what to trade the King's Soul for, I'll just hold on to it ;). I am, however, rocking his gear now even though it has much less defense than the Havel's. I'm considering respeccing to reduce my Vitality (since I'm only around 50% equip burden now) and Dexterity and putting more points into Strength, Faith, and perhaps Adaptability.

I've been hesitating on starting NG+ because of these boss weapons so I keep wasting time summon helping on Ancient Dragon instead. I've had a few people that must have used bonfire ascetics because the knights there were giving 6000+ each (normally about 2000+ with my Jester's Gloves and Silver +2). I'm also starting to get invaded while waiting to get summoned. I hope NG+ is not just full of invading griefers. I want to take on the harder enemies/bosses and don't want to be harassed ;).

#723 Backlash   www.thecoverproject.net CAGiversary!   4794 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

I've been using the DragonRider bow for most of the game.  If you use bows a lot (like I do) I think it's pretty sweet, especially when you shoot magic arrows with it.   I've actually skipped out on leveling my guy up just to load up on magic arrows, iron arrows, and poison arrows - I like to keep several hundred on hand.

 

I've made a few other boss soul weapons but haven't used any other ones.  Most seem to have pretty high STR and/or DEX requirements, and petrified dragon bone is so uncommon.



#724 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

I used jester's glove and silver for awhile but at the rate they give souls out like candy, I'd rather have item find gear on. Pretty much the only time I put on +to soul gear is when I am doing some coop specifically to get enough souls to reach a certain, immediate stat goal.

From Guardian Dragon Soul do I get Drakewing Ultra Greatsword or the Spitfire Spear? I really have no idea here. I was a big winged lightning spear user in Demon's Souls and even the first Dark Souls, but I haven't used a spear at all in DS2.

Do you have a decent amount of points in INT? The dark spear that the spear users in Earthen Peak drop is pretty nifty. The R1 is your standard thrust, but R2 is a wide horizontal sweep. It also upgrades with titanite instead of the rarer twinkling and petrified dragon.



#725 BrolyB593   I've been here well over a decade?!? o.O CAGiversary!   7720 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 18 April 2014 - 03:27 PM

I've been using the DragonRider bow for most of the game.  If you use bows a lot (like I do) I think it's pretty sweet, especially when you shoot magic arrows with it.   I've actually skipped out on leveling my guy up just to load up on magic arrows, iron arrows, and poison arrows - I like to keep several hundred on hand.

 

I've made a few other boss soul weapons but haven't used any other ones.  Most seem to have pretty high STR and/or DEX requirements, and petrified dragon bone is so uncommon.

I love the DragonRider Bow. It was my main weapon during my first playthrough!



#726 Supplice   Meta CAGiversary!   4863 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 05:05 PM

Supposedly a lightning infused Defender's sword is one of the best faith weapons since it is one of the few which scales S with faith, though it can't be buffed with sunlight blade since it has its own 2-handed R2 buff.

 

Unfortunately, the self buff the Defender's GS doesn't add as much as sunlight blade and it lasts 30 seconds. If your a Str/Fth build, the Mastodon GS with sunlight blade is more powerful than a self-buffed Defender's GS.  :) That is the only fault the Defender's GS has really. Also, I see more faith users wielding the Watcher's GS or Thorned GS than Defender's GS lately in PvP.  :-k  



#727 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 09:42 PM

LMAO, Oh From...



#728 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:08 PM

^ Hah - That is just ridiculous!
 

Unfortunately, the self buff the Defender's GS doesn't add as much as sunlight blade and it lasts 30 seconds. If your a Str/Fth build, the Mastodon GS with sunlight blade is more powerful than a self-buffed Defender's GS.  :) That is the only fault the Defender's GS has really. Also, I see more faith users wielding the Watcher's GS or Thorned GS than Defender's GS lately in PvP.  :-k


Oh, so now you tell me ;). But I think I'm still better off with the Defender's GS for normal encounters. I'm getting slightly less physical damage but much more lightning damage after the scaling on both. I mean the only time I've used the buff is on the Ancient Dragon. I wouldn't use it (or Sunlight Blade) very often otherwise. I'm not looking for a PvP build - just something to get me through NG+. Though being prepared for invaders is always nice. And at least that way I can use the slot for something else. But if I'm having trouble with any bosses I can always go back to the Mastadon Greatsword and equip Sunlight Blade. But that wears off too, doesn't it? How long does it last?

As for the armor, I've moved away from the King's gear. While it looks cool and is a "badge of honor" that you beat Vencrick, it just isn't all that great - unless it scales well with twinkling titanite that is. I didn't upgrade it to find out though. So now I'm using Velgstadt's armor and leggings. Those are much better, not much heavier, and look nice as well. They do seem to upgrade better than normal stuff, but that's probably true of all twinkling titanite upgrades (since you only get 5 instead of 10). I upgraded it a few slots after I farmed some more. I still have 15 or so twinkling titanite in reserve. I'm hesitant to use it all on this in case I find or realize that something else is better.

I had my Havel's armor up to +5 and while that stuff is awesome, it looks horrible and of course Dark Souls "git gud" snobs look down on you for wearing it ;).

#729 Backlash   www.thecoverproject.net CAGiversary!   4794 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:22 PM

Apparently all the upgrades for regular titanite end up adding 100%, twinkling adds 50%, and dragon bone upgrades add 150%.  The consistency is nice and makes it easier to see how things will end up or compare something that's partially upgraded to something that's not upgraded.  That's without infusions, but those are also mostly predictable.

 

See this: http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/upgrade



#730 Bezerker   Bezerker Barrage! CAGiversary!   7069 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 19 April 2014 - 01:32 AM

Been spending the majority of the day working on getting to Rank 2 of the Bell covenant so i can get the last damn sorcery I need.  Once I have that I'm going to complete NG+ (already beat the boss) and see how fast I can get my ass to the castle so I can buy the last 3 spells I need from the ghost guy. 



#731 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:25 AM

Yeah, I'm going to start NG+ this evening so my kids can see it. They've seen me playing a lot of the endgame and are wondering what the rest of it is like. My 4 year-old keeps asking me if there is a "video" (ie, a cutscene like some of the bosses have - they are always disappointed when a host skips it when I'm being a phantom ;)).

#732 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:53 AM

I found the mastadon greatsword after carefully fighting through the sentinel room of death and played around with it a little. Doesn't seem to have much more reach than my claymore and is a lot heavier (and requires 10 more STR), nor much extra starting damage. What is so great about it compared to the claymore? Just the little extra damage?



#733 Supplice   Meta CAGiversary!   4863 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 06:14 AM

Mastodon is meant for strength builds obviously. No point in going for it if you plan on using the minimum stats to wield it. It has better range than most GS (3rd or 4th overall iirc), a good move-set if you know how to use it, and hits a lot harder than the claymore. :)



#734 hongduc.wb   Banned Banned   224 Posts   Joined 7.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 07:55 AM

beginning from demon soul..it's good for prepare to play dark soul 2 ?



#735 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:25 AM

beginning from demon soul..it's good for prepare to play dark soul 2 ?


Sure, might as well. I haven't played Demon's Souls since it first came out but I still have to get the plat in that. I just had a few areas to finish up. I might go back to it again after I plat DS2.

So I started my NG+ run tonight. Way to go From on the surprises
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But man people weren't kidding about it being invasion time in NG+. Wow... So first I put down my summon sign at the very first bonfire in Forest of Giants (by the river). I helped a guy go through to the second bonfire and as soon as we got there he was invaded by an arbiter who spawned practically right on top of me! I nailed him pretty good there despite not realizing at first what was happening (the blue phantom threw me off - had never seen one before) but he got away. Eventually he came back and we killed him. Then after we took care of the Pursuer he got invaded by another arbiter! I guess the dude has some sin ;). After that he dismissed me.

Then I went through the same area on my own - pro tip: you can hurl fireballs at the corner in that second bonfire area to open up the shortcut. That saves a ton of time. I guess there's no reason to go down and do that whole area on the rooftops and talk to Cale unless I want to get into his house again for some reason. Also, the stupid crystal gecko only gave me two lousy regular titanite shards (that's with the gold +1 ring equipped).

The problem was that I kept getting invaded as well. First time was right by the main bonfire. It seems invasions don't happen until you get to that part based on what happened to me and the guy I helped. The red phantom in this case, though, chose not to engage me too directly. He was overly cautious even though he probably could have taken me out if he went after me. So I kept him at bay while I waited for a summon to arrive. Then we destroyed him ;). The summon then helped me with the Pursuer (on the rooftop where he first spawns) and then we headed past the turtle guys and through the fog leading to the area before Last Giant. I got invaded again there (in the room next to the gecko) - so probably 10 minutes after the last time which happened as soon as I got to that main bonfire. So it pretty much seems like I'm getting invaded the maximum amount that I can so far (if the 10 minute timer between invasions is the case in this game). We took care of him and then made short work of the Last Giant.

I had to stop there to watch a movie with my kids but I'm anxious to get back in. I'm just worried that invasions will be so incessant as to make the game a chore from this point. We'll see how it goes once I move on from here... I guess to Heide's now - though I'm sure that is invasion central as well. I was going to try to solo most of the game in NG+ but if I'm constantly being invaded I'll probably just grab summons whenever I see them (as long as I'm still human).

#736 hongduc.wb   Banned Banned   224 Posts   Joined 7.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:58 AM

but i think...demon soul harder than dark soul II... world tendency ,.v. blahblah



#737 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 19 April 2014 - 01:04 PM

So I played for like 4 more hours in NG+ later and went through Heide, No Mans Wharf, and most of the Bastille - not one invasion except for an arbiter on No Mans Wharf when I was helping someone. I even went back to Forest of Giants castle and messed around there some more and did not get invaded. So I'm not sure why I saw those ones right off the bat there and then nothing since. But I'm not complaining. I completed both the Heide bosses, the Wharf boss (with Lucatiel easily surviving) and the Sentry boss in the Bastille. So what probably took me 20-30 hours to finish in NG I did in one evening - and I wasn't even hurrying all that much as I did a lot of coop too.

#738 Bezerker   Bezerker Barrage! CAGiversary!   7069 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:44 PM

I dont know if its just my PS3 getting ready to explode after 115 hours of this game but for some reason the Draw distances in NG++ are almost non-existant. Every now and then I'll run into an area that is completely empty yet should have monsters in it. When I run into the empty room every enemy will magically appear around me.  Also had the fun discovery that the Castle golems will only move when you kill enemies near them.  This has been a huge pain in the Shrine of Amana.

 

I now have every achievement except for the Bernhart one.  For some reason he wouldnt give me his equipment in my NG+ even though I had him alive in 3/4 of the boss battles. Maybe i'll have better luck this time.

 

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Whoohoo,  Platinumed!



#739 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:54 PM

but i think...demon soul harder than dark soul II... world tendency ,.v. blahblah

As long as the online servers are still up for Demon's Souls, world tendency isn't too hard to manage. Logging off and booting up in the Nexus over and over will eventually push your world tendency to (typically) one shade below pure white (which is usually the server average) in all the levels. Then log off and in offline mode in soul form, kill one boss in the world to push it to pure white.

 

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Finished Dranglec, wow those dragonriders are really weak to lightning. Torched one with great lightning spear before the other one attacked and I killed it with a few strokes of my lightning claymore.

 

On the way through I think I found the best way to clear that 6 door ruin sentinel room. I finally unlocked the 2 other sentinel doors on the right side, but now when I enter the center door on either side it draws the attention of the Ruin sentinel in the opposite door. So first I draw out and kill all the royal knights in the room one at a time with a binocular lightning blast. Then kill the RS in the bottom room on the left, then cast BINOC-LIGHT at the floor in front of the RS in the central door across the room to draw it over to you. Kill it. Move into the center room on the left, kill the RS, then attract the attention of the RS across the room in the upper right door with a BINOC-LIGHT blast at the floor. Then draw out the last RS from the upper left room into the center of the room so that it doesn't fall down the hole. In the process I got "ruin leggings" it must be a pretty rare drop as I have killed 15 sentinels and that's the first time I got an armor drop.

 

Looking glass knight was interesting, I was expecting him to be bigger. The only time he really surprised me was with that initial lunge attack. He summoned a phantom but I think it was just an NPC phantom as it didn't put up much of a fight. Do you get an invasion message when a player is summoned by him?



#740 Supplice   Meta CAGiversary!   4863 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 12:07 AM

Looking glass knight was interesting, I was expecting him to be bigger. The only time he really surprised me was with that initial lunge attack. He summoned a phantom but I think it was just an NPC phantom as it didn't put up much of a fight. Do you get an invasion message when a player is summoned by him?

 

I don't think the host does get a message. The biggest difference between fighting an NPC and a summoned player is that the NPC comes through the Knight's Mirror. When summoned, the PvP player just shows up out of thin air somewhere from my experience.  :-o  

 

I miss the early trolling days of being summoned for that fight though :). Back when not many people knew of the white ring, casting warmth to heal the Mirror Knight, or using Channeller's Trident to boost Mirror Knight's attack damage. Last but not least, eliminating Benhart if he was summoned by the host.  O:)



#741 Kameleon   Gaming Mark CAGiversary!   464 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 07:31 AM

LMAO, Oh From...

LOL

I was like "what the hell is the point of this video?", then he gets to the end of it and... there's the pickaxe.



#742 evilw0n   Deals & Games CAGiversary!   1813 Posts   Joined 13.9 Years Ago  

Posted 20 April 2014 - 11:46 PM

WTF....you have to aggro one of those things for that long....for the pickaxe?  Yikes....a lot of work for a bleeping pickaxe.

 

Side note - I decided to do a second play through with a faith build.  Think all but one of my deaths have been due to me thinking I had a shield with me when it was my chime.  Nothing like casting heal when you think you are blocking.  At No Mans Warf and the Bastille.  Probably would be through with the Bastille if I hadn't had that chime in my hand.  



#743 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:38 AM

Side note - I decided to do a second play through with a faith build.  Think all but one of my deaths have been due to me thinking I had a shield with me when it was my chime.  Nothing like casting heal when you think you are blocking.  At No Mans Warf and the Bastille.  Probably would be through with the Bastille if I hadn't had that chime in my hand.


I use a Chime but it is an alternate for my weapon - so it is always in my right hand. I'm so programmed to shield with my left that I could never change that up. But yeah, I have only died a handful of times in NG+ - usually just from stupid mistakes.

I'm now a good chunk through NG+. So after those initial two invasions in Forest of Fallen Giants, I have only been invaded once in several more hours. I was in Shaded Woods (3rd bonfire with the lion warriors), which seems to be a favorite invasion spot as I got invaded on NG there a few times as well.

In beginning of NG+ I had joined Way of the Blue and have been wearing the ring all game. Well, what do you know, I actually got a Blue Sentinel to show up and help me this time! I was holding my own against the invader, so when the sentinel showed up he was toast. Man was that satisfying - eat it ganker!

So I never knew there was a way to light up the Sinner area as I didn't get the key for that area until near the end of the game. I thought the little cells up there were pointless (I didn't realize you could light one up). I've helped a few times on the Sinner and it is a damn tough fight. It is the only one giving me problems so far in NG+ and I haven't even attempted it in my own game yet.

But they sure did pump up Lucatiel's stats - she barely got hurt on Smelter Demon even though he was pounding on her. And Benhart and me made short work of the Congregation (though that one was always easy). Even though I already got their trophies via ascetics in NG, I'm trying to do it again so I can keep their gear (as I reloaded my PS+ save after doing it before).

I suppose that in NG I went down the pit in Majula too soon. I jumped down and the rat boss area was one of the toughest fights in the whole game for me. I didn't realize I probably did it too soon. I haven't even gone there yet in NG+ and I can see how getting the ladder guy from Earthen Peak first (I didn't even see him there the first time - he just showed up in Majula on his own) makes it much easier.

I've already taken care of the fire demon, and I'm close to the spider. Even though someone mentioned it before, it shocked the hell out of me when it popped up the cliff on the way to the Congregation. Man, it would have been nice to kill it there, but I was too cautious and it left.

Also, I found this interesting, but when I got to the guy who pardons you, he said I had no sin. In NG he wanted 100,000+ souls (1000 for each level I think). I guess maybe it was for the Pate killing? This time I did not see them in their fighting spot, so I must have missed a conversation or something. But I thought sin carried over from one game to the next? Didn't people who killed NPCs say that happened? I don't know why mine was wiped unless the Pate thing is a different case.

And man are there a lot of red phantoms. The ones that surprised me the most were the 2 in Iron Keep that are in the
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#744 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:20 AM

So what was the verdict did they patch the tracking on the Armana casters or not on the PS3 version? There are some reports that it is much easier in the Xbox 360 version, I never fought them before the balance patch. The tracking isn't too hard to avoid as long as you roll under if, but when they fire it from really long range or there is more than one caster it's pretty hard to avoid.

 

I too keep my casting weapon on my weapon hand whenever possible so I have quick access to my shield. The only time I put it in my left hand if it is for buffing spells. It's a little annoying that you get access to the non-faith weapon buffing spells so much earlier than sunlight blade. If feels like I'm practically to the end of the game before I got it in the shrine.

 

Ha, Emo Garl Vinland, what a pleasant surprise.



#745 Supplice   Meta CAGiversary!   4863 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:04 AM

In beginning of NG+ I had joined Way of the Blue and have been wearing the ring all game. Well, what do you know, I actually got a Blue Sentinel to show up and help me this time! I was holding my own against the invader, so when the sentinel showed up he was toast. Man was that satisfying - eat it ganker!

 

Way of the Blue members do not need to wear the ring to get assistance from the Blue Sentinels.  :)

 

So what was the verdict did they patch the tracking on the Armana casters or not on the PS3 version? There are some reports that it is much easier in the Xbox 360 version, I never fought them before the balance patch. The tracking isn't too hard to avoid as long as you roll under if, but when they fire it from really long range or there is more than one caster it's pretty hard to avoid.

 

Its somewhat patched on the PS3 version. As for the Xbox version, I posted this video I found awhile back so see for yourself.  :lol:

 



#746 io   ... Super Moderators   24779 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:18 AM

Way of the Blue members do not need to wear the ring to get assistance from the Blue Sentinels.  :)


I read conflicting info on the Interweb about that so I've been wearing it. It would be nice to use that slot for something else. I got invaded again tonight while I was in the acid area trying to free Ornifex (interestingly enough, near the same bonfire in Shaded Woods where I got invaded last time - this is definitely an invasion hot spot for some odd reason). I just waited there and the phantom ran around for a while and then went back to his world. No one ever came in to help me then.

If I could take that ring off I sure could use it for something better - say the Southern Ritual +2! I'll give it a shot I guess. The invasions are so infrequent anyway (4 total in 10+ hours of NG+) that I might as well.

But here are some links that say you do need to wear it:
http://darksouls2.wi...ue#.U1TxcZDn-Uk
http://www.reddit.co...r_rings_please/

And hell, in this one the guy says not only do you have to be wearing the ring, you have to be in human form! http://gaming.stacke...ics-of-invasion

So, yeah, kind of confusing there. I found another thread where someone "confirmed" you don't have to wear it. WTF!? But do you have to be human? That may be the key. I'm pretty sure I was the first time I got help and was not the second time when I didn't. But of course that is not enough of a sample size.

I completed Belfry Gargoyles tonight (to get the Bastille Key and the Gold +2 ring is a nice benefit as well). I tried to do it online but man, the invasions are just incessant there. It seems like if you beat 2 they ought to stop for that session. But no, they keep coming. I actually beat those two on my own. The first had some enormous enchanted weapon and got me down to a sliver of health but I actually managed to roll past him and backstab him. That's the first time I've ever done that in PvP. I killed another phantom just after that with a few lightning spears, right after I summoned some help.

I completely forgot that you have to go to the top of the tower to ring the bell to go to the gargoyles. I don't even remember doing that last time. So I hadn't gotten the gate open when I summoned the help. Having to deal with the regular guys on the top when invaders are also there is just a pain. The next invader just sat at the top of the ladder and fired some hex that got us as near the top of the ladder. There was really nothing we could do. Then I couldn't even get to the second floor again before two more invaders came. So, yeah, time to pull the plug and clear out the top floor without the bell jackasses. When I went back online the same guy was waiting to help, and this time, since I had the gate open, we went in to the gargoyle fight and left an invader behind. So sweet.

Then I took care of Lost Sinner - so much easier to do with some light in the place! So I have just The Rotten and the spider left to do... I'm not sure if I'll need to pull the plug once again in the rat area but we'll see. I kind of put off my least favorite parts of the game: getting to the Spider boss, and the whole rat area/Gutter/Black Gulch section. Ugh...

#747 Dwarfman   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   351 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:58 PM


 

 

I completed Belfry Gargoyles tonight (to get the Bastille Key and the Gold +2 ring is a nice benefit as well). I tried to do it online but man, the invasions are just incessant there. It seems like if you beat 2 they ought to stop for that session. But no, they keep coming. I actually beat those two on my own. The first had some enormous enchanted weapon and got me down to a sliver of health but I actually managed to roll past him and backstab him. That's the first time I've ever done that in PvP. I killed another phantom just after that with a few lightning spears, right after I summoned some help.

I completely forgot that you have to go to the top of the tower to ring the bell to go to the gargoyles. I don't even remember doing that last time. So I hadn't gotten the gate open when I summoned the help. Having to deal with the regular guys on the top when invaders are also there is just a pain. The next invader just sat at the top of the ladder and fired some hex that got us as near the top of the ladder. There was really nothing we could do. Then I couldn't even get to the second floor again before two more invaders came. So, yeah, time to pull the plug and clear out the top floor without the bell jackasses. When I went back online the same guy was waiting to help, and this time, since I had the gate open, we went in to the gargoyle fight and left an invader behind. So sweet.

Gah, Belltower... I hated doing that Covenant to rank 2 AND both of those areas with a passion.  I made the mistake of not planning ahead on my platinum and didn't really jump into the Belltower covenant until I was around SL 200.  While I could still win at PVP a lot of the time my battles would end up being 2 vs 1.  Which when you are melee only and use an ultra greatsword you pretty much die right away.

 

I think they need to rethink the mechanics of PVP.  While I understand situations invading someone and there already being 2 people the game should only allow 1 vs 1 and then add in a 2nd when the host player summons a phantom.  If the invading player is invading a host with a friendly phantom the game should summon in 2 invaders at the same time.  Make it fair on both sides...whatever, I hit rank 2 by farming the Samarai in the Iron Keeps Belfrey Sol area. 

 

I also finally killed Darklurker, I attempted him about 10 times as melee in NG+.  I would get him down to where he would split in two and then it was game over everytime.  I can dodge all his attacks and get in a well timed swing or two but with 2 throwing crap at me there was no way.  My DPS isn't burst or very quick so the battle was stacked against me.  Decided to re-roll my stats and made a Strength/Faith magic build.  Put enough points in strength to weild Havel's Greatshield + 5 and by Supplice's suggestion a Lightning Mastadon Greatsword + 10 and then points in Faith/Attunment/etc.  Darklurker was a JOKE, I literally killed him in about 30 seconds and on my first try.... magic is so OP for bosses IMHO.  Sit back and nuke.. oh well.

 

Moved on to NG++.  Have all the trophies except the spells I'll buy from Chancellor Wellner.  Already blew through 4-5 zones and bosses.  Should get the platinum by tomorrow night.



#748 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11170 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

guardian_owl

Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

 I was pulled into another player's world when I went through the Door of Pharro for the first time, I was killed but since you die in grey phantom form there doesn't appear to be a penalty, you just go back to the spot you were summoned from. unless I am missing something.

 

Human or hollow for way of the blue (though they can only attack invaders, not enemies), human only for blue sentinel (which is really annoying) is probably where the confusion comes from.

 

Shaded ruins is probably a hot spot of invasion (I got invaded once there in hollow form) because of the lion warriors which are easy to aggro several at a time and hard to kill quickly, as well as the cursing jars which if you don't kill quickly will sap your max HP over and over. Not to mention the giant Baselisk.

Its somewhat patched on the PS3 version. As for the Xbox version, I posted this video I found awhile back so see for yourself.  :lol:

Ha, that's hilarious, they don't even track at all, that's got to be an error.



#749 BrolyB593   I've been here well over a decade?!? o.O CAGiversary!   7720 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:42 PM

In regards to the staff/catalyst in the right/left hand and the confusion with the shield:

 

I run with my MLGS in my right hand as well as binoculars. Then in my left I have a staff, chime and flame.

 

I almost never use a shield in Dark Souls unless the situation absolutely warrants it so I never really got confused with the placement of the 'casting' button. I am thinking about my first playthrough of this one and the only real time I threw a shield on was during the Royal Rat Authority fight. I put on a great shield after dying countless times on that sucker. I tried him now after he was patched and was disappointed. The new character I was playing as had much less health and armor than the first character playthrough and yet I was able to get hit dead on and easily survive and heal. I hate when they make bosses easier. He was tough but not impossible and that is the essence of Dark Souls. End mini rant haha 



#750 Backlash   www.thecoverproject.net CAGiversary!   4794 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:51 PM

 I was pulled into another player's world when I went through the Door of Pharro for the first time, I was killed but since you die in grey phantom form there doesn't appear to be a penalty, you just go back to the spot you were summoned from. unless I am missing something.

Yeah there's really no downside for being a victim of the rat covenant, other than wasting estus or items fighting in someone else's world.  It's kind of annoying but when you win you get a lockstone, which is nice.  I was in Doors of Pharro two nights ago and got pulled into someone's world.  He was waiting right behind the spawn spot and tried to backstab me but he swung a little too early so I was able to roll sideways and then beat the hell out of him.  Felt great :)   Usually when I get pulled I end up trying to fight the dogs and the mastadon warrior while the summoner throws lightning at me and I just die quickly.