I'd like to point out a few things.
1. The guns used in this shooting were legally acquired. Not bought on the black market like it's assumed criminals will just do. He used his mother's guns, which brings me to point 2...
2. This man's mother, whom he also killed, was not a responsible gun owner. I've read where people said she was responsible with them, but then her son used them to kill her and many others, so yeah. So I say to "gun enthusiasts" here or otherwise, lock up your shit. If someone uses your weapon to commit a crime, you should be held responsible for what was done with your weapons.
I couldn't agree more.
We should also point out that CT has its own AWB which mirrored the one we had before in this country. And yet, despite this ban, it still happened.
Take away their guns
You asked the question , and thats my response. (sorry , because I know you hate it)
Except they're still violent, so your "solution" solved absolutely nothing.
Think about what your post is actually touching on: In a place like Chicago where thugged out gangsters have gone full retard -
Do those kids need to see a mental healthcare professionalism and prescribed medication?
Or do they just need all their guns taken away.
Ah yes, sort of like how people addicted to drugs would stop being addicted to them if we just ban drugs! Oh wait...
All you'll succeed in is taking away the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves. Again, look at the restrictive rights in Washington DC, Baltimore and Chicago. Despite this, they still get guns, the murders continue.
Heres the thing , Just so you understand me because believe or not, I do get it.
Whenever we go down this path we end up regurgitating the same attack line. I know that when I say "Take away their guns" What the average law abiding responsible gun owner actually hears is: "You're a dumbass". And thats when the conversation falls apart. Thats really what almost every versus convo should teach everyone in the end.
When you have ideological beliefs that are allowed to sort of 'flourish' inside its own vacuum where nothing can touch it , it'll just grow and thrive and become this sacrosanct edict. If you take those same ideological beliefs , remove them to the bubble and then apply them to the actual circumstances / situation - They die. Simply because it could only live in the bubble.
And thats the point I cant let go of.
The circumstances have changed. We're not talkin about a dude and a clocktower or a nut in a book depository anymore. Chicago isnt going to just fix itself , thats for sure.
Sorry, but I'm just more interested in real solutions. Banning guns is not the solution. More background checks? Better systems? Safety requirements? These types of requirements don't hamper your average law abiding citizen. Full out bans on ownership of things
is never a good idea (except slavery of course). Owning something should not be outlawed, because there will always be a demand and those determined will always get them, regardless of the law.
Need an example? Just remember that CT had a ban on the deadly weapons that weren't even used in this crime, and yet, there are calls to ban said weapons? Does. Not. Compute.