Did anybody ever actually use the CAG Steam group?
Never, I had no clue if/what the CAG steam group was about when I accepted the invite a little while after joining CAG. I just hadn't had a use for it. It was swelling badly because of the steamgifts mania.
So Steam killed the groups because they were advertising deals elsewhere? Wow. Just wow. Pretty soon it will be a bannable offense to say "GMG", "Amazon", etc.
We'll just adopt codewords for them the same way the intelligence community does: Nancy (NSA), Fred (FBI), Charlie (CIA), etc. Less awkward though since we don't need to communicate about organizations that don't officially exist.
So if anything, Valve shouldn't be shutting down the customers (bad PR) but should be stipulating to the game companies that either it is against their TOS to sell their Steam keys on competing sites, or that if they do sell them on other sites, they cannot be sold for lower than what they're sold on Steam.
Punishing the end users for this behavior is just... bizarre.
That legally borders on price fixing (to be decided in court).
We really cant be angry about them closing deal groups really.
We can be angry at them for making a community-hostile move. I haven't seen anyone argue against "it's their board and they can censor whatever they want."
Valve is letting the power get to their heads. The steam drm is often praised as a good thing, valve must have thought nothing could change that and then this happened. No matter how you put it, steam is drm. A drm that (for the most part) has more pros than cons but the tables are turning.
It's a lot like voting. Steam-DRM is the lesser of DRMs, being just account based, not limited activations (and the sometimes invasive software approach to that -- remember Sony's rootkit fiasco?) Being able to quickly and reliably re-download your games from a company you are sure is going to be around in a few years is a major plus for Backloggers. Some of us bought games from D2D, they went under. While Gamefly allows us to re-download some of our D2D games, we don't have access to everything we bought.
Are you kidding? Post about this on SPUF and you'll get a thousand howling Corporate Paladins bitching at you about how dare you use Steam to talk about another companyAlternately, you are using their software to promote sales of other games using the Steam DRM platform.
It's all about perspective. The muddling comes from Valve wanting "Steam" to be both store and universal platform.
There are other companies? ^_~ Seriously, one of the bigggest pluses for getting newer games on Steam is the ability to pick up DLC later on sale, from many places, but since Steam has the broadest holiday sales, I often pickup DLC on steam.
You know, the way you come off in your posts, I can see why so many people dislike/have/had issues with you.
Actually, I think he's mellowed out in the past few months. IRL you have a reasonably good idea of the age of someone talking. Based on this we give them different leeway and response. Your reaction to identical actions/speech of a 13 year old and a 26 year old are different. Once you have an idea of someone's age, you are able to put their actions into better context.