FUNi Surveying Fans for DBZ Blu-rays

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Just got an E-mail from FUNimation asking to take a survey about whether we want the original DBZ on Blu-ray and how we want it.

Dunno if it will work, but here's the link:

http://www.funimation.com/rojas/blog/interested-in-more-dbz-blu-rays-we-need-your-help/7740872

They ask if we want the original aspect ratio or if we want it cropped like the Orange Boxes (without the brightness turned up). According to the survey, the sets would be the same amount of episodes as the Orange Boxes and would retail for $44.98 MSRP.

Assuming people want the original ratio, Season 1 would likely be a reissue of the two Level 1 sets.
 
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I'm torn now. I just picked up the 2nd dragon box at a local indy store used for $30. I was thinking about looking for the other sets, but maybe I should wait.
 
If you have a bluray player sell the dragon box. The 1.1 & 1.2 quality blows the dvds away. Takes a few episodes to get use to film grain in DBZ but after that it's all good, people just need to remember it was produced on actual film stock back in the day & that film grain is not a "fuzzy" picture. I hate when they use DNR to reduce film grain...

 
a chance to tell them we want the original uncropped version at an affordable price? yes please.

hopefully they can truly make it look amazing on blu ray. if some older 1960s movies can look stunning on blu ray no reason a show from the 80s and 90s cannot do the same.

 
Really don't care about or even like DBZ anymore but I did the survey anyways and trashed the god awful widescreen nonsense. That crap really changed my buying habits years back

 
greenwolfe7 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Rock-Collectors/dp/B00D7TS972/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1371817361&sr=1-1&keywords=dragonball+z+rock+the+dragon

Found this on amazon wonder if its related...
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That's for the release of the "Ocean dub" episodes. It has the first 67 episodes which are cut and re-edited into 53 episodes, and first 3 movies, and comes with a 48-page movie

Remember way back in the late 90s when you and your friends ran home after school and turned on Toonami to catch the newest episode of Dragon Ball Z? Remember rocking out to that awesome opening theme?
Dragon! Dragon! Rock the Dragon!
Dragon Ball Z!


Yes, there have been previous releases of Dragon Ball Z, but they didn't contain the opening that we all grew up watching, and a lot of fans have told us that they want it. Well, finally, 15 years after first airing on Toonami, Dragon Ball Z will be available in an awesome DVD Collector’s Edition that features all 53 episodes of the original U. S. television broadcast with the Canadian cast (Ocean Dub) and the epic opening theme, “Rock the Dragon!”

With the Dragon Ball Z: Rock the Dragon Collector’s Edition all you DBZ fans out there can relive over 650 minutes of action-packed Saiyan awesome!

But the trip down memory lane doesn’t stop there. Each collector’s edition comes with a 48-page color book that showcases the history and characters of DBZ that helped transform the show into the cultural icon that it is today! This edition also includes three DBZ movies: Dead Zone, Tree of Might and the World’s Strongest.

This is the ultimate DVD collector’s set for you guys that grew up with Dragon Ball Z! Available on August 20, 2013, you can pre-order your copy now.
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Anybody that wants a DBZ remaster that's cropped into wide screen should be hit with a brick.  I was floored when asked that in the survey as I know I wasn't the only one that hated this absurd feature.  

Also, here's a trailer from the original Blu release:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRHCzAHgmq4

 
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ssjChris said:
Anybody that wants a DBZ remaster that's cropped into wide screen should be hit with a brick. I was floored when asked that in the survey as I know I wasn't the only one that hated this absurd feature.

Also, here's a trailer from the original Blu release:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRHCzAHgmq4
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yea i cant imagine too many people want it now. at first when it came out when widescreen was still kind of new i would wager 30-40% of people didnt care or wanted it. but now its gotta be like 0%

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greenwolfe7 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Rock-Collectors/dp/B00D7TS972/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1371817361&sr=1-1&keywords=dragonball+z+rock+the+dragon

Found this on amazon wonder if its related...
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That's for the release of the "Ocean dub" episodes. It has the first 67 episodes which are cut and re-edited into 53 episodes, and first 3 movies, and comes with a 48-page movie

Remember way back in the late 90s when you and your friends ran home after school and turned on Toonami to catch the newest episode of Dragon Ball Z? Remember rocking out to that awesome opening theme?
Dragon! Dragon! Rock the Dragon!
Dragon Ball Z!


Yes, there have been previous releases of Dragon Ball Z, but they didn't contain the opening that we all grew up watching, and a lot of fans have told us that they want it. Well, finally, 15 years after first airing on Toonami, Dragon Ball Z will be available in an awesome DVD Collector’s Edition that features all 53 episodes of the original U. S. television broadcast with the Canadian cast (Ocean Dub) and the epic opening theme, “Rock the Dragon!”

With the Dragon Ball Z: Rock the Dragon Collector’s Edition all you DBZ fans out there can relive over 650 minutes of action-packed Saiyan awesome!

But the trip down memory lane doesn’t stop there. Each collector’s edition comes with a 48-page color book that showcases the history and characters of DBZ that helped transform the show into the cultural icon that it is today! This edition also includes three DBZ movies: Dead Zone, Tree of Might and the World’s Strongest.

This is the ultimate DVD collector’s set for you guys that grew up with Dragon Ball Z! Available on August 20, 2013, you can pre-order your copy now.
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wow talk about cash grab lol. also i am confused 67 episodes into 53? is this basically the toonami version that randomly skips over episodes? but i know this will sell i mean it has an art book after lol.

 
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Saban whittled 67 episodes into 53, partially because of editing restrictions and partially because back then nobody picked up more than 26 episodes in a season.

Also remember that Dragonball failed horribly and Pokemon had not been released yet. Airing DBZ on TV was a huge gamble, which is one of the reasons why most of the cuts were time cuts.
 
DNukem170 said:
Saban whittled 67 episodes into 53, partially because of editing restrictions and partially because back then nobody picked up more than 26 episodes in a season.

Also remember that Dragonball failed horribly and Pokemon had not been released yet. Airing DBZ on TV was a huge gamble, which is one of the reasons why most of the cuts were time cuts.
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I remember as a kid watching DBZ and being pissed that they only dubbed until the end of the Saiyan Saga, every time that last episode would air with Vegeta flying away, you'd hope that MAYBE they finally got around to dubbing some new episodes, but nope, every time Monday would roll around after that last episode aired, they'd start over with Raditz again. The worst however is that the Spanish dub on Telemundo actually had newer episodes, so you could see some of the Namek saga, you just couldn't understand any of it unless you knew spanish.

 
I remember the Ocean dub back in around 1996.  I was around eight years old and my brother got me into the anime.  When Funimation licensed the anime for the later episodes, he started buying the VHS tapes for the original dub releases.  I believe he bought the VHS version all the way up to the beginning of Imperfect Cell saga.  I highly doubt that Funi ever got to releasing all of DBZ on VHS, lol.  I later on bought the entire set of the orange bricks when I was 18 I think and then my brother started buying the dragon boxes. 

At this point, if Funi starts releasing DBZ on Blu in season sets, (I'll buy each one during a sale of course) I'll probably bite.  The orange bricks are just collecting dust and my brother has most of the Dragon boxes.  The only scary thing about this is that I hope Toei doesn't announce their own Blu release after these sets are all out and pull a Blu Ray dragon box on us, ugh..  At the odd rate of DBZ releases over the years (VHS, DVD, DVD Uncut (discontinued), Orange bricks, Dragon Boxes, DBZ Level 1.1/1.2 Blus, the old Ocean dub box, etc.) it honestly wouldn't shock me.  

 
Whether Toei releases their own sets or not probably will depend on how many Japanese people reverse-import the FUNi sets.
 
I voted on the 4:3 ratio for obvious reasons. It was made that way and should never be cropped to 16:9. The orange bricks were proof of why that was a bad idea. The other thing I suggested was that they keep the Japanese title cards, correct opening animations (they kept using the one from Dead Zone for the first few episodes), correct ending credits (they kept using episode 1's ending credits for a long while) and next episode previews. That's what was sorely missing with the original Blu-ray releases.

It was really off-putting seeing the subtitles show "The Mightiest Warrior in All of History is Goku's Older Brother!" while the title card read "Reunions."

Then again, I'm probably better off sticking with my complete Dragon Box collection for JP DBZ and then getting all of Kai on Blu-ray for the better dub.

 
ssjChris said:
I remember the Ocean dub back in around 1996. I was around eight years old and my brother got me into the anime. When Funimation licensed the anime for the later episodes, he started buying the VHS tapes for the original dub releases. I believe he bought the VHS version all the way up to the beginning of Imperfect Cell saga. I highly doubt that Funi ever got to releasing all of DBZ on VHS, lol. I later on bought the entire set of the orange bricks when I was 18 I think and then my brother started buying the dragon boxes.

At this point, if Funi starts releasing DBZ on Blu in season sets, (I'll buy each one during a sale of course) I'll probably bite. The orange bricks are just collecting dust and my brother has most of the Dragon boxes. The only scary thing about this is that I hope Toei doesn't announce their own Blu release after these sets are all out and pull a Blu Ray dragon box on us, ugh.. At the odd rate of DBZ releases over the years (VHS, DVD, DVD Uncut (discontinued), Orange bricks, Dragon Boxes, DBZ Level 1.1/1.2 Blus, the old Ocean dub box, etc.) it honestly wouldn't shock me.
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i wonder what would be the difference between a funi and Toei release at this point? i can't imagine they want to dragonbox the world again. also these blu rays really dont need to be more than 30 dollars.

Tsukento said:
I voted on the 4:3 ratio for obvious reasons. It was made that way and should never be cropped to 16:9. The orange bricks were proof of why that was a bad idea. The other thing I suggested was that they keep the Japanese title cards, correct opening animations (they kept using the one from Dead Zone for the first few episodes), correct ending credits (they kept using episode 1's ending credits for a long while) and next episode previews. That's what was sorely missing with the original Blu-ray releases.

It was really off-putting seeing the subtitles show "The Mightiest Warrior in All of History is Goku's Older Brother!" while the title card read "Reunions."

Then again, I'm probably better off sticking with my complete Dragon Box collection for JP DBZ and then getting all of Kai on Blu-ray for the better dub.
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LOL yea the subtitles and what is actually said or shown one screen is always hilarious. i do admit Kai is quite well done. cuts out so much fat.



DNukem170 said:
Saban whittled 67 episodes into 53, partially because of editing restrictions and partially because back then nobody picked up more than 26 episodes in a season.

Also remember that Dragonball failed horribly and Pokemon had not been released yet. Airing DBZ on TV was a huge gamble, which is one of the reasons why most of the cuts were time cuts.
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this is true. its hard to remember a time when dbz was not popular. same with pokemon. it is kind of weird how dragonball never really took off. i had no idea they cut that many episodes though. i knew they did but thats still a lot. that said releasing a set of these 53 episodes is just a weird release. i am not sure the point of it lol.
 
Tsukento said:
Then again, I'm probably better off sticking with my complete Dragon Box collection for JP DBZ and then getting all of Kai on Blu-ray for the better dub.
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This makes me realize even more that no matter how many times you buy DBZ, you never really win.

 
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kayne2000 said:
also these blu rays really dont need to be more than 30 dollars.
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From what I understand, the reason the initial releases were stopped was because it was too expensive to remaster that long of a series yet again. Remember that FUNi isn't just taking the Dragon Box print and porting it over, they are completely redoing the series. Which is why the sets are priced $45. That way, they can get their profit back.

They could always go back to the split releases you know...

that said releasing a set of these 53 episodes is just a weird release. i am not sure the point of it lol.
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There are a lot of old school fans who miss the original dub. Hell, one could argue that despite the edits, the Saban version of the Goku/Vegeta fight was the best version.
 
Took the survey some days ago when I saw it on FB, went with the 4:3 but have to say man is Funimation really dipping into the dbz market too much.You had the orange boxsets,you had the dragon boxes,the 1.1s and stuff and DBZ Kai which sort of counts.Just not sure that many people will be interested in it when they've already released all those and probbably got their fix and wouldn't pay 40$ bucks more just for a minor upgrade.

 
The Level sets weren't discontinued due to sales. On the contrary, they were selling like hotcakes.

And DBZ's re-releases aren't as often as any other anime series. Originally released as singles, then in season sets, then on Blu-ray.

Since Kai is a different series, that doesn't count. The last new release the original series had were the Movie Box sets, unless you count the season half-packs and season double sets exclusive to Walmart.
 
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I'm for DBZ Blu-Rays if they can make so I don't have to handle so many discs. If Blu-Rays can hold the equivalent of like six+ DVDs, then I want to watch like 30 episodes a disc, high or standard def.

 
spmahn said:
DNukem170 said:
Saban whittled 67 episodes into 53, partially because of editing restrictions and partially because back then nobody picked up more than 26 episodes in a season.

Also remember that Dragonball failed horribly and Pokemon had not been released yet. Airing DBZ on TV was a huge gamble, which is one of the reasons why most of the cuts were time cuts.
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I remember as a kid watching DBZ and being pissed that they only dubbed until the end of the Saiyan Saga, every time that last episode would air with Vegeta flying away, you'd hope that MAYBE they finally got around to dubbing some new episodes, but nope, every time Monday would roll around after that last episode aired, they'd start over with Raditz again. The worst however is that the Spanish dub on Telemundo actually had newer episodes, so you could see some of the Namek saga, you just couldn't understand any of it unless you knew spanish.
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Omg this bugged me to no end. The whole series would start over and I wouldnt be able to take it anymore. I would read about the storylines and found a website back in the AOL days called like dbzheaven that had the movies on there.

I did like Dragonball though and still have some on VHS. I was glad when they started showing that too.

 
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DNukem170 said:
kayne2000 said:
also these blu rays really dont need to be more than 30 dollars.
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From what I understand, the reason the initial releases were stopped was because it was too expensive to remaster that long of a series yet again. Remember that FUNi isn't just taking the Dragon Box print and porting it over, they are completely redoing the series. Which is why the sets are priced $45. That way, they can get their profit back.

They could always go back to the split releases you know...

that said releasing a set of these 53 episodes is just a weird release. i am not sure the point of it lol.
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There are a lot of old school fans who miss the original dub. Hell, one could argue that despite the edits, the Saban version of the Goku/Vegeta fight was the best version.
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well then it better be a damn good remaster.

honestly at this point i wouldnt be able to tell the difference between the edits without watching them back to back. i am sure some people could but i am not one of them. furthermore why not complete the milking. do the entire series as it was on toonamie.

Magiblaze said:
Took the survey some days ago when I saw it on FB, went with the 4:3 but have to say man is Funimation really dipping into the dbz market too much.You had the orange boxsets,you had the dragon boxes,the 1.1s and stuff and DBZ Kai which sort of counts.Just not sure that many people will be interested in it when they've already released all those and probbably got their fix and wouldn't pay 40$ bucks more just for a minor upgrade.
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well DBZ still sells plenty. and honestly a blu ray release of everything would probably sell pretty well like many blu ray releases of old stuff. not to mention there are a fair amount of blu rays of older stuff that looks fantastic.


DNukem170 said:
The Level sets weren't discontinued due to sales. On the contrary, they were selling like hotcakes.

And DBZ's re-releases aren't as often as any other anime series. Originally released as singles, then in season sets, then on Blu-ray.

Since Kai is a different series, that doesn't count. The last new release the original series had were the Movie Box sets, unless you count the season half-packs and season double sets exclusive to Walmart.
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if i am not mistaken werent levels discontinued due to supposedly not being able to finish restoring some of the episodes. Kai is "Different" but the only difference with Kai is the voice script. its otherwise the exact same animations. I woulodnt call Kai brand new but i wouldnt call it a rerelease either.


and dbz has a fair amount releases.....VHS(not a lot of animes got VHS), DVD singles, orange boxes, dragonboxes, some other season boxes, various blu rays, i think all the movies got a blu ray release and dvd release as well as in VHS, not to mention GT has a few versions of itself as well. DBZ has certainly gotten more than its fair share of releases. not a lot animes get beyond dvds. quite a few now get thrown into season sets thankfully or a complete series but its still a random crapshoot with that much less a blu ray after that.

 
DBZ only had one series of season sets. Unless you wanna count the singles in an artbox.

Yu Yu Hakusho had the singles, the edited singles, the singles in the artbox, the 14-episode sets, and the current season sets.

School Rumble had the singles/half-packs, season sets, Viridian Collection, and the S.A.V.E. sets.

Slayers Seasons 4 and 5 have the season sets, combo packs, now the Anime Classics.

Evangelion had the singles, OG box set, Director's Cut, Platinum, Platinum boxset, Platinum Thinpak (with and without tin), and a holiday set.

Chrono Crusade had the singles, singles in a box, thinpak, ADV Complete Collection, ADV Holiday Collection, FUNi Complete Collection, and FUNi Anime Classics line.

Kaleido Star had the singles, singles in a box, thinpak sets, both seasons together thinpak, FUNi sets, now the S.A.V.E. sets.

DBZ gets more attention because of how big it is and its length, but it doesn't get any more releases than other series. GT was only released 3 times (singles, season sets, series set). Moving to a new format doesn't count as a lot of older series do that. Kai may use older footage, but it is still a new series.
 
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ssjChris said:
I highly doubt that Funi ever got to releasing all of DBZ on VHS, lol. I later on bought the entire set of the orange bricks when I was 18 I think and then my brother started buying the dragon boxes.
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You'd be surprised. I remember buying everything from Majin Buu being unleashed to the end of the series on VHS as they were released.

 
Basically, FUNi ended up biting off more than they could chew. They made a bold move to remaster the series, PROPERLY this time around and in HD, frame by frame. This meant not actually feeding it through a machine and calling it a day, but having people touch up a 291-episode series by every single frame.

 
Tsukento said:
Basically, FUNi ended up biting off more than they could chew. They made a bold move to remaster the series, PROPERLY this time around and in HD, frame by frame. This meant not actually feeding it through a machine and calling it a day, but having people touch up a 291-episode series by every single frame.
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yea i wasnt sure what they were doing exactly. but i havent seen the level sets. well hopefully funi does it justice this time

DNukem170 said:
DBZ only had one series of season sets. Unless you wanna count the singles in an artbox.

Yu Yu Hakusho had the singles, the edited singles, the singles in the artbox, the 14-episode sets, and the current season sets.

School Rumble had the singles/half-packs, season sets, Viridian Collection, and the S.A.V.E. sets.

Slayers Seasons 4 and 5 have the season sets, combo packs, now the Anime Classics.

Evangelion had the singles, OG box set, Director's Cut, Platinum, Platinum boxset, Platinum Thinpak (with and without tin), and a holiday set.

Chrono Crusade had the singles, singles in a box, thinpak, ADV Complete Collection, ADV Holiday Collection, FUNi Complete Collection, and FUNi Anime Classics line.

Kaleido Star had the singles, singles in a box, thinpak sets, both seasons together thinpak, FUNi sets, now the S.A.V.E. sets.

DBZ gets more attention because of how big it is and its length, but it doesn't get any more releases than other series. GT was only released 3 times (singles, season sets, series set). Moving to a new format doesn't count as a lot of older series do that. Kai may use older footage, but it is still a new series.
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orange boxes and dragonboxes are two different releases.....and was that what that third set was? just singles packed together as a season? if so ill discount that. also if you are going to count for example evangelion platinum singles and platinum boxset then you should count dbz and its singles and singles into a boxset. then we have the barely started level series so it could have been three if they had tried. and VHS that makes 3 or 4 if you count the VHS with an attempt for four or five. furthermore if you are going count edited ones like yuyuhakasho then you have to count the edited and unedited ones in dbz as separate and the edited and uncut ones on VHS too. i know all this because about the only one i don't own in the list here is the level series and the dragonboxes. dont ask me why i have so much damn dbz crap but i do.

Kai really isnt a totally new series though. same footage but modified dialogue. its really not new. im not sure where to put it exactly.

take full metal brotherhood. now THATs a new series. the plot varies greatly from the original. and by about episode 20 its an entirely different show.
 
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Kai really isnt a totally new series though. same footage but modified dialogue. its really not new. im not sure where to put it exactly.
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It edits the original footage, all the dialogue was re-recorded, the music (was supposed to be) new, and, most importantly, both Toei and FUNi consider it to be a different show. The story being told may not be new, but that doesn't mean it is the same series. Especially when this is Japan we're talking about here.
 
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Tsukento said:
Basically, FUNi ended up biting off more than they could chew. They made a bold move to remaster the series, PROPERLY this time around and in HD, frame by frame. This meant not actually feeding it through a machine and calling it a day, but having people touch up a 291-episode series by every single frame.
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Knowing how Level 1.1/1.2 was the first time Funi ever properly remastered a series, it doesn't really surprise me that they put the project on hiatus once they figured out how much work it was to do it. I always wondered how they felt they were treating their fans back when they upscaling SD series on Blu Ray (poorly) and of course the orange bricks. Knowing how Funi likes to keep their releases fairly constant on a series, I wonder how quick these season sets will be done pertaining they actually go through with them.


 
DNukem170 said:
kayne2000 said:
Kai really isnt a totally new series though. same footage but modified dialogue. its really not new. im not sure where to put it exactly.
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It edits the original footage, all the dialogue was re-recorded, the music (was supposed to be) new, and, most importantly, both Toei and FUNi consider it to be a different show. The story being told may not be new, but that doesn't mean it is the same series. Especially when this is Japan we're talking about here.
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Kai other than the entrance and ending uses the exact same footage. no new animation are created. its just displayed at a different pace. its no more new than that 53 episode dub mentioned in previous postings that edits dbz. thats all Kai is another edit of DBZ.

and was the music new? other than the intro and ending it all sounded the same from what i remember.

 
Legally, Kai is a different series. Whether you personally believe it or not is irrelevant. If you ask anyone involved in its production either here or in Japan, it is a new series. Just because it uses old footage doesn't make it DBZ Season 10.

And the music was originally all-new, but the composer was fired for plagiarism and they simply reused the music scores from the series.
 
Depending on how good a job they do on this I might pick it up. Although I'm still waiting on dragonbox sets of Dragonball and GT.

 
I don't really care if they do a Dragon Box release or not, but I would love for them to re-release Dragonball in slimmer sets (a la every other DVD-only FUNi release). The digipaks take up way too much space.

 
kayne2000 said:
Kai other than the entrance and ending uses the exact same footage. no new animation are created. its just displayed at a different pace. its no more new than that 53 episode dub mentioned in previous postings that edits dbz. thats all Kai is another edit of DBZ.

and was the music new? other than the intro and ending it all sounded the same from what i remember.
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Actually, Kai's footage is a mix of both original footage remastered and digitally traced scenes (which stick out like a sore thumb). The music for Kai started out being entirely new but then switched to using the original soundtrack (though all of the original music was used or even in the right places - such as Cell saga music used in the Freeza saga).

All in all, the best way to put Kai is that it cuts out the fat of the original and the dub is everything the original dub SHOULD have been.

 
Maybe I'm the minority but I'd throw down $300 if they would just release the whole series in one set in 4:3 with the Faulconer score being an option as well, not the only option, though.

 
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Maybe I'm the minority but I'd throw down $300 if they would just release the whole series in one set in 4:3 with the Faulconer score being an option as well, not the only option, though.
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I would love it if they threw every version DBZ orginal, dbz orange bricks, dbz kai, ect... of the entire series on one collector's box so I can buy them all over again for the 6th time. I want dragon ball on bluray too.

 
Tsukento said:
Actually, Kai's footage is a mix of both original footage remastered and digitally traced scenes (which stick out like a sore thumb). The music for Kai started out being entirely new but then switched to using the original soundtrack (though all of the original music was used or even in the right places - such as Cell saga music used in the Freeza saga).

All in all, the best way to put Kai is that it cuts out the fat of the original and the dub is everything the original dub SHOULD have been.
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i thought kai looked quite a bit better. i dont remember anything looking too bad but i probably noticed it while watching and forgot about it. i will say it is amazing how much better dbz is without all the fat in it. some of the fat is fine(garlic jr. for instance) but overall its much more enjoyable this way.

DNukem170 said:
Legally, Kai is a different series. Whether you personally believe it or not is irrelevant. If you ask anyone involved in its production either here or in Japan, it is a new series. Just because it uses old footage doesn't make it DBZ Season 10.

And the music was originally all-new, but the composer was fired for plagiarism and they simply reused the music scores from the series.
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it can legally be whatever it wants. but factually its no different than dbz cut, uncut, and that 53 episode toonami version. its just another version in that exact same vain.

ashame about the plagiarism issue though.
 
kayne2000 said:
i thought kai looked quite a bit better. i dont remember anything looking too bad but i probably noticed it while watching and forgot about it. i will say it is amazing how much better dbz is without all the fat in it. some of the fat is fine(garlic jr. for instance) but overall its much more enjoyable this way.
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I thought it was up and down. The Freeza Saga was definitely better, but the Cell Saga rushed through so much that it killed a lot of the tension.


it can legally be whatever it wants. but factually its no different than dbz cut, uncut, and that 53 episode toonami version. its just another version in that exact same vain.
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How about we agree to disagree?
 
Orange bricks were garbage by taking away some of the original image.  The only thing I liked was the fact that it featured original Bruce Faulconer music(aka the TV music, not the repetitive japanese music).  Hopefully this release will be more like Dragon Box but with the TV music.

 
Jesus_S_Preston said:
You'd be surprised. I remember buying everything from Majin Buu being unleashed to the end of the series on VHS as they were released.
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I have every single episode of DBZ on VHS. It takes up an entire shelf on the wall in my closet. It literally is every single VHS though, if anyone remembers, the side of the VHS box has a part of a picture and when it's lined up in order with the rest of the saga, it forms a picture from said saga. It definitely does go all the way from start to finish though. The worst thing is they were released like 3-4 episodes at a time per VHS, and each VHS tape was like 15 bucks. We would always go buy them as soon as they came out and watch them, because it was months ahead of airing.

 
RistoGriffith said:
I have every single episode of DBZ on VHS. It takes up an entire shelf on the wall in my closet. It literally is every single VHS though, if anyone remembers, the side of the VHS box has a part of a picture and when it's lined up in order with the rest of the saga, it forms a picture from said saga. It definitely does go all the way from start to finish though. The worst thing is they were released like 3-4 episodes at a time per VHS, and each VHS tape was like 15 bucks. We would always go buy them as soon as they came out and watch them, because it was months ahead of airing.
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I did the same thing, I went to either Meida Play or Sunco to get mine. $20 for a VHS with 3-4 episodes, my mom wasn't really into buying them.

 
Its pretty amazing looking back on it.Anime back then for just a few episodes was like a full price 19.99$.These days you can get a full series anime 24 episodes for the same.

 
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