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#301 Chetty12   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1368 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Chetty12

Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:08 AM

What happens when multiple people bid 100 points? Random draw? That doesn't seem fair.


Not disputing your point, but we didn't have a single person bid 100. Highest bid was 80, most if the ties came from the minimum bids. I contemplated doing the tiebreak by team need but decided to go random.

#302 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:37 AM

As much as I appreciate that idea being throw out there, it's something that I think most will be against. General consensus seems that people want the lesser teams to have first opportunity for the higher priority free agents, which does make sense and is 100% understandable.

 

This. That's the conclusion they reached in the official league, and I think it's almost even more important here. I don't think disallowing free agent signings entirely is necessary (I just said I'd be ok with it...as I don't care one way or the other). The only thing I want to make sure of is that the system isn't being exploited. If you haven't played in a Madden league before, it might blow your mind the lengths people will go to to gain an advantage.

 

We've seen people offering maximum length contracts with the knowledge that the contracts are backloaded and the franchise would never last into those seasons, we've seen people cut and re-sign players, again to reap the benefits of backloaded contracts where the cost for the first few years is the least. It probably sounds lame, but there are many times I long for simpler days of just "this is your team...do the best you can".

 

Having said that, the only reason at all I wouldn't just do what the official league is doing of waiting until Week 4 of the regular season to do free agency (based on record) is just because we're going to have some CPU teams who could sign some of those players. By that same token, we're playing on All-Pro, which some have felt is "too easy"...so maybe giving those CPU teams a little extra help isn't a bad thing.

 

My number one priority over all else is just keeping things as fair as possible to everyone involved. It's hard to determine skill level before we get started (though, for those who have been in the league several years, we have a general idea)...so other than outlawing free agency (even temporarily) or just doing a random selection order and attributing any unfairness to "bad luck", I'm not sure how many other options there are.

 

I absolutely appreciate the input though. I'm trying not to rule unilaterally on these things...but it seems to be generally slow goings in all Madden leagues so far this year. Not sure why that is.



#303 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 10 September 2013 - 01:40 AM

You could just create a new league N8 and we can all join again. But anyone who screws up again should go to the back of the waiting list.

 

Is this a vote for waiting on the next roster update then? If we're going to restart the league, I'd like to at least get a little more stable of a roster where depth charts aren't all screwed up and ratings aren't questionable.



#304 JoelyPoley   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   378 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

JoelyPoley

Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:51 AM

Not disputing your point, but we didn't have a single person bid 100. Highest bid was 80, most if the ties came from the minimum bids. I contemplated doing the tiebreak by team need but decided to go random.

The only reason I made this point was because I would have bid 100 on one person haha

Is this a vote for waiting on the next roster update then? If we're going to restart the league, I'd like to at least get a little more stable of a roster where depth charts aren't all screwed up and ratings aren't questionable.

Absolutely. 1 extra week would help stable out rosters, maybe fill a few extra spots, and give the rest of the people who haven't even turned on the game a set deadline.

#305 tukai   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1218 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:16 PM

Hey guys. I have mulled over this for days now. I know that the Eagles were already taken, but I can not play in a fans league with a team that I could care less if a nuclear bomb hit the city (Houston). I know stat wise the Texans are a better team than the Eagles, but I can't play with a team I don't care for. I am not asking for the rules to be changed, but I don't want to spend my free time committing to something I wouldn't like to do. I already do that and it's called work. If the owner of the Eagles drops out or something happens, I would like to be a part of the "fans" league, but being tied to a team I don't care about is not for me. Sorry.



#306 Flyersfan   The Dude CAGiversary!   1559 Posts   Joined 16.0 Years Ago  

Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:08 PM

Got my 360 working.

Will play madden before noon so the invite can get sent.

#307 Dark Rider   The Bus Guy CAGiversary!   2922 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:30 PM

Is this a vote for waiting on the next roster update then? If we're going to restart the league, I'd like to at least get a little more stable of a roster where depth charts aren't all screwed up and ratings aren't questionable.


Honestly, I don't have a problem waiting until next week to start. I think the rosters will be a little bit more organized. I know for a fact that the Panthers are missing a couple of undrafted rookies. I am also hoping that their rating will go up based on their strong performance against Seattle.

Is anyone else still playing ultimate team? I wish they still had the all-pro packs. I have bought probably six pro packs and have gotten nothing over 84 OVR. Has anyone had any success with the pro packs? I did get a first round bye in the playoffs though. I have that going for me.

#308 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:03 PM

Hey guys. I have mulled over this for days now. I know that the Eagles were already taken, but I can not play in a fans league with a team that I could care less if a nuclear bomb hit the city (Houston). I know stat wise the Texans are a better team than the Eagles, but I can't play with a team I don't care for. I am not asking for the rules to be changed, but I don't want to spend my free time committing to something I wouldn't like to do. I already do that and it's called work. If the owner of the Eagles drops out or something happens, I would like to be a part of the "fans" league, but being tied to a team I don't care about is not for me. Sorry.

 

Well, that solves that issue, lol.

 

Seriously though, I appreciate your honesty, and completely understand where you're coming from. If it makes you feel any better, the guy who has the Eagles is a returning player who also played as them last year. So, it's not like some new guy just came in and snatchd them away from you. He's just been here longer. Simple as that. I'll drop you back down to the waiting list then, and make note of your allegience.

 

Honestly, I don't have a problem waiting until next week to start. I think the rosters will be a little bit more organized. I know for a fact that the Panthers are missing a couple of undrafted rookies. I am also hoping that their rating will go up based on their strong performance against Seattle.

 

All right...this seems to be the direction we're heading. Hopefully the estimate of Thursday wasn't just BS. It would make sense for them to do an "after Week 1" update though...as this roster definitely felt like a bit of a rush job.



#309 Flyersfan   The Dude CAGiversary!   1559 Posts   Joined 16.0 Years Ago  

Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:23 PM

Ran into some work issues so didn't get a chance to play madden before noon for the invite. Will get on soon, and post here when I do.

#310 Mr Grand Cru   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2029 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Mr Grand Cru

Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:43 PM

Just wanted to pop in and post this information I posted in the other leagues, I apologize if I am intruding or this gets marked as Spam :

 

 

We were considering doing a 3 on 3 type tourney / mini season type thing the idea was brought up by myself via groupme chat and is still fresh but its something extra to do and not pull any people away from here but just offer up maybe one game a week and some more Madden for those who love the game. I say once a week because it will be a little complicated getting six people online at the same time, but it would be fun none the less, if you are interested shoot me a pm once the reserve is met of people interested , I will create a thread. I am open to suggestions on how it can be done, it would also be cool if you have a headset and are willing to party up with your team if need be.



#311 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

TheN8torious

Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:37 PM

Just wanted to pop in and post this information I posted in the other leagues, I apologize if I am intruding or this gets marked as Spam :

 

We were considering doing a 3 on 3 type tourney / mini season type thing the idea was brought up by myself via groupme chat and is still fresh but its something extra to do and not pull any people away from here but just offer up maybe one game a week and some more Madden for those who love the game. I say once a week because it will be a little complicated getting six people online at the same time, but it would be fun none the less, if you are interested shoot me a pm once the reserve is met of people interested , I will create a thread. I am open to suggestions on how it can be done, it would also be cool if you have a headset and are willing to party up with your team if need be.

 

I appreciate the offer, but I just don't really have time for something like this. It's too bad EA hasn't promoted this mode more though. The NHL series has had online team play since the 09 game, even allowing you to create your own club and player, that you can progress and improve by playing to a set standard. They've also added leagues, playoff tournaments, etc over the years. We've had a CAG team playing that every week since 2008, and it's provided some great times. Madden's mode just seems way less thought out.



#312 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

TheN8torious

Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:32 PM

Hopefully the new rosters will be out sometime today. Everything I've read keeps mentioning "next week's rosters" (though, I guess if it's a full week, it would be Saturday).

 

http://www.pastapadr...-season-out-now



#313 Flyersfan   The Dude CAGiversary!   1559 Posts   Joined 16.0 Years Ago  

Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:23 PM

Forgot to mention I've played madden, so I should be good for an invite next time you put madden in Nate.

#314 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

TheN8torious

Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:36 PM

Still no new update. It better be tomorrow.



#315 pitfallharry219  

pitfallharry219

Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:03 PM

I just saw in the other thread that they did release a roster update today.



#316 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

TheN8torious

Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:33 PM

I just saw in the other thread that they did release a roster update today.


Oh really? I've been following the EA Madden Twitter and they haven't said anything about it. If that's the case, I'll get us set back up and invites sent back out as soon as I get my daughter down for her nap.

#317 staticz   FortySixin CAGiversary!   3045 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:44 PM

Oh really? I've been following the EA Madden Twitter and they haven't said anything about it. If that's the case, I'll get us set back up and invites sent back out as soon as I get my daughter down for her nap.

 

Follow @Donny_Moore, he is the roster guy for Madden



#318 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:13 PM

All right, the new league has been set up and invites are going out! There are still a couple odd things with the new roster, but we'll just have to roll with it. Depth charts are still not right. They're basically just slapped together based on the OVR of your players in that scheme. So, if your #1 WR takes an OVR hit because of the scheme EA has him in, he could be dropped to #4. It's dumb, but it's fixable. On the positive side, I have seen additional players who should be there, and the removal of players who shouldn't be there. So, this is probably as good as EA is going to do, lol.

 

When you join the league...MAKE SURE YOU CREATE A COACH

 

And in case you haven't caught it from the other leagues, you will need to go into league settings and make these changes for yourself:

 

Fill Roster: Off

Auto Swap: On

Ballhawk: On

Heatseek: On

 

We also still need a final ruling on free agency. So far, it seems like the idea is to just let the CPU have at it in the beginning, and do a round of draft style free agency based on record around Week 4 of the regular season. Speak up if you're adamently opposed to that or have a better idea.

 

Other than that, let's try to get everyone joined as quickly as possible. This took a bit longer to get started than I expected, and I'd like to get us through the pre-season as quickly as possible.



#319 KasterDB   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1272 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

KasterDB

Posted 14 September 2013 - 12:42 AM

Personally, I'd like one round of free agency. However, since the best way to do it is probably going by team overall, I'm not staunchly in favor.

Unrelated, but I'm guessing we're bringing the trade committee back this year?

#320 chriscolbert   Everything right is wrong again CAGiversary!   3652 Posts   Joined 16.5 Years Ago  

chriscolbert

Posted 14 September 2013 - 04:03 AM

According to Adam Schefter:

"Terms are still coming in, but Jack Soffalot will be the head coach of the Dolphins in 2013."

#321 Superstar   CAG Superstar! CAGiversary!   2081 Posts   Joined 17.4 Years Ago  

Superstar

Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

lol..

 

After accepting the league invite, I was creating my coach, and Madden froze on me. I logged back in and I am in the league for Dallas and my coaches name is "New Coach"



#322 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:33 PM

lol..

 

After accepting the league invite, I was creating my coach, and Madden froze on me. I logged back in and I am in the league for Dallas and my coaches name is "New Coach"

 

I can boot you and send you a new invite. Just don't retire from the league. That's what blacklists you from your team. I probably won't get a chance to do it until this evening though. Got a pretty busy Saturday today.



#323 Flyersfan   The Dude CAGiversary!   1559 Posts   Joined 16.0 Years Ago  

Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:24 PM

Join up fellas! Hope most people are around this weekend to join so we can start early this upcoming week.

#324 njrockpd   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   352 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

njrockpd

Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:56 PM

Joining now.



#325 Superstar   CAG Superstar! CAGiversary!   2081 Posts   Joined 17.4 Years Ago  

Superstar

Posted 14 September 2013 - 08:52 PM

I can boot you and send you a new invite. Just don't retire from the league. That's what blacklists you from your team. I probably won't get a chance to do it until this evening though. Got a pretty busy Saturday today.

 

If you can do that, thanks. I didn't retire or anything. Take your time - I am doing some work today anyhow.

 

Thanks!



#326 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 14 September 2013 - 10:38 PM

13 of 24 people have joined. Still waiting on:

 

Twick87

Panoramic15

swift fix

KasterDB

bfauble83

scrub0bk

dr0ppinl0adz

mvp828

KingofOldSchool

sicsonic

lyric706

 

Sending out a mass PM to these guys. Hoping we can get everyone in as soon as possible.



#327 scrub0bk   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   468 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 14 September 2013 - 10:42 PM

13 of 24 people have joined. Still waiting on:

 

Twick87

Panoramic15

swift fix

KasterDB

bfauble83

scrub0bk

dr0ppinl0adz

mvp828

KingofOldSchool

sicsonic

lyric706

 

Sending out a mass PM to these guys. Hoping we can get everyone in as soon as possible.

I joined up with my coach. did it not work?



#328 CAGLeagueSports   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2628 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

CAGLeagueSports

Posted 14 September 2013 - 10:46 PM

I joined up with my coach. did it not work?

 

I'm not seeing you on there. The league was recreated yesterday with the new roster update though. So, yeah, you'll need to do it again if you're referring to the original league that was set up with the opening day rosters.



#329 dr0ppinL0adz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   370 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

dr0ppinL0adz

Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:25 PM

Joining up now.



#330 scrub0bk   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   468 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:33 AM

I'm not seeing you on there. The league was recreated yesterday with the new roster update though. So, yeah, you'll need to do it again if you're referring to the original league that was set up with the opening day rosters.

sounds good, i'll join up again tomorrow