Amazon Now charging State Tax in More States GA, VA, Etc.

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My pre-orders have not been retroactively charged but I am sure it's coming. How could they do this without any notification? I don't read Forbes. 
This blows. I have been shopping with Amazon for years. Now there is no advantage to purchasing from them since they are charging sales tax. I would have saved $20 on my next gen console buying from Amazon. On average I save $4.20 per game.  Even with Prime there is no perk buying from Amazon.  I am depressed. I don't know if I can go on any longer.. Looks like I will be switching to Newegg. 
 
Come on where are you tea baggers at? This is a tax issue and not a peep.
 
They tell you when you place an order that you're subject to applicable taxes.



Unless otherwise noted, items sold by Amazon.com LLC are subject to sales tax in select states in accordance with the applicable laws of that state. If your order contains one or more items from a seller other than Amazon.com LLC, it may be subject to state and local sales tax, depending upon the seller's business policies and the location of their operations.
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Besides, you're subject to use tax, whether or not they tell you.

 
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Amazon has been charging sales tax in California for about a year now I think . Honestly, it doesn't make that much of a difference to me. The one advantage actually is that they have fulfillment centers in California now and it is now uncommon to get something next day with my 2-day Prime shipping. Plus there is an option on something for same day delivery. Can't beat that. 

 
Well GA and VA tax just started September 1st. I Preorder all may games so I get release date delivery. That is convenient unless you have a brick and mortar close. I live in the stix and we have two walmarts a sams club two gamestops target best buy toysrus and probably left out something. Sure there are more rural areas but Walmart is everywhere. The Supreme Court settled this debate in 1992. Now states are writing laws which contradict the previous bill nothing wrong there but really are states like GA and VA going to use this money for something useful? Before the collapse states blew their budget just to show the need for an increase the following year. If your department had a surplus funding was cut back the next year. Budgets are bloated and government contractors are greedy fat cats. I have been on both sides, State and private contractor not just spouting BS. I am sure not all states are the same. Cali obviously does some good budgeting but as for the poor states, Boss Hogg gets the better deal. Conservative states always want to gut and cut funding on the federal level but beg for handouts to fund their BS on the state level.

 
God damn it........love Amazon as it has been the best place to get my soundtracks (because worse buy stopped carrying soundtracks)...blah.

 
Wow...

So you have to actually pay your taxes now and not self report. Sorry you cant break the law any more.

Besides all things being equal now, Amazon is still a good deal, because once you factor in time and expenses such as gas, you're either paying the same as buying any where else such as Walcrap or Worstbuy, and dont even have to leave your house. Can still preorder a game and have it waiting for you when you get home from your job without having to make a special trip just to guy that new game. 

 
I believe the state of South Carolina will be getting added to this list as well. I was told a distribution warehouse/fulfilment center is being built in the state.
 
They obviously don't know the law because in 1992 "Quill v. North Dakota, the U.S. Supreme Court required retailers to collect tax from out-of-state customers with a physical presence in the customer’s state. Yet today some states require merchants to collect taxes if they merely have in-state affiliates." Now states are trying to force internet retailers to charge state tax to all customers based on a bill in the senate "Marketplace Fairness Act (S.336/H.R.684)." There is a fair use tax that is on the books but states have just recently been using it as a way to obtain state tax for internet and some private sales from out of state.

What it boils down to is this: Brick and Mortar have been lobbying for this because they think it is an unfair advantage. In reality, Amazon has built a logistical empire through serving customers online. Gone are the days when people go to big box store and get sold overpriced crap by a minimum wage high schooler. Now people research products online and make a purchase based on personal preference. Brick and Mortar is a dying institution. Amazon killed Booksamillion and Barnes Noble. Now it has taken aim at revolutionizing retail. So Brick and Mortar can either step up or get out the way. I will happily shop brick and mortar when I am able to order all my shit on the phone and stop by a store to pick up my items from Wall-E. I don't need a greeter at the door and three ditsy blondes to pick up my online order. 

 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Do they charge tax with purchases made with credit? GS doesn't in VA

painkillah said:
.... I don't need a greeter at the door and three ditsy blondes to pick up my online order.
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three ditsy blondes ?? I get old middle eastern people that can barely speak english
 
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kilik64 said:
Wow...

So you have to actually pay your taxes now and not self report. Sorry you cant break the law any more.

Besides all things being equal now, Amazon is still a good deal, because once you factor in time and expenses such as gas, you're either paying the same as buying any where else such as Walcrap or Worstbuy, and dont even have to leave your house. Can still preorder a game and have it waiting for you when you get home from your job without having to make a special trip just to guy that new game.
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Get the hell out of here. Don't make me get the hose.

 
Dude, whatever.... if Amazon was in violation of the law, that's their problem... We just happened to be in a state where the greedy motherfucking law makers want more money for their pocket so why not force amazon to make us pay tax?

Vinny said:
Anyone who isn't paying use tax on their online purchases is breaking the law. Just because an online store doesn't charge you tax doesn't mean it's tax free.

Exactly. Online retailers have had this advantage for years now but this should make stores more competitive.
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ITDEFX said:
Dude, whatever.... if Amazon was in violation of the law, that's their problem... We just happened to be in a state where the greedy motherfucking law makers want more money for their pocket so why not force amazon to make us pay tax?
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Amazon isn't violating any laws as they were not required to collect taxes in states where they did not have a physical presence (which will change soon). You're responsible for reporting and paying use tax on all intrastate purchases. Additionally, I'm not here to argue morals and ethics, I'm just telling you the facts. No need to get prissy.

 
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Vinny said:
Amazon isn't violating any laws as they were not required to collect taxes in states where they did not have a physical presence (which will change soon). You're responsible for reporting and paying use tax on all intrastate purchases. Additionally, I'm not here to argue morals and ethics, I'm just telling you the facts. No need to get prissy.
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Amazon helps you out there too. At least in TN. They have a tax page that you can look at and use that to pay the fair use tax bill come tax time.

Its basically the same as if your job didnt take tax out of your paycheck. If you dont report and pay those taxes yourself, you are breaking the law. Only difference hear would be the amounts involved and not really easy for the government to track as Amazon does not have to release records on your purchases. If they did and you didnt report it to your state and pay the tax, they could and should come after you for it. Same as they would on income taxes.

Its the law.

 
Even paying taxes, amazon is cheaper for me on just about everything I normally get.  That and you couldn't pay me to use newegg after the all the problems they've had lately with orders.

 
Man, the crying about this sort of thing is just laughable. We have the absolute lowest taxes of any industrialized nation, whether it be property, income, sales or whatever. Even the most anti-socialists must realize the taxes pay for so many if the things that they take for granted every day (or maybe they don't, hence the tears).

The Canadians on this forum are probably laughing hysterically at the whining that's going on.
 
Hooray! Now I'll stop getting the people arguing with me at work that because amazon doesn't charge tax I should drop the price an extra x.xx dollars to "compensate" them on the price match.
 
I wonder if this will hit any of the third-party sellers, like if you buy a game from Gamestop and then resell to recoup some of your money. That could actually be a form of double taxation on the individual, especially if the second purchase was made in the same state.

 
He doesn't mean the actual term "double taxation", he's just saying re-sellers would be paying taxes twice: sales tax on their purchase and income tax on their sale. So flippers will pay sales taxes when they buy items and then income taxes when they show profit on their sales (which is what they're supposed to do anyway). 

 
Vinny said:
He doesn't mean the actual term "double taxation", he's just saying re-sellers would be paying taxes twice: sales tax on their purchase and income tax on their sale. So flippers will pay sales taxes when they buy items and then income taxes when they show profit on their sales (which is what they're supposed to do anyway).
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My point is though is that some flippers don't make a profit, they take a loss. Taxation under those circumstances is supposed to be illegal.

 
Indigo_Streetlight said:
My point is though is that some flippers don't make a profit, they take a loss. Taxation under those circumstances is supposed to be illegal.
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I might still be missing your point here (and if I am, sorry) but... I think you're confusing state sales taxes with income taxes, wherein you're (kinda) right as there's no such thing as taxation on a net loss. Taxes are only for income, though it's highly unlikely someone has less than 0 taxable income though as any loss you have is supposed to offset other income (not going into further detail here).

Sales taxes (assuming you're in a state that charges sales tax) has to be collected for all sales and forwarded to the state, regardless of whether you're making a profit or loss. Sales taxes are always paid by the buyer though. Therefore, you're never paying any one tax twice and thus, no "double taxation".

Yeah, taxes are a bitch.

 
lol... I guess I can expect 10 more of these threads sooner or later, just deal with it and become a smarter shopper.

 
Indigo_Streetlight said:
My point is though is that some flippers don't make a profit, they take a loss. Taxation under those circumstances is supposed to be illegal.
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No. This is far from double taxation.

If you're operating as a resale business, then you would claim said transaction as a loss. The original purchase would be claimed as "expense" and the sale, being that the income produced by it was less than the expense, is negated. If those were the only transactions for that year, then the business would report a loss and no taxes would be collected.
 
I'm curious - I live in a state where they still don't require or ask for online sale tax but some sites I shop on still tax me. Specifically I'm referring to BestBuy.com and I'm curious, what is this tax? A federal tax or state? If it's the latter even though the state at this time isn't requiring anything to do they just take it anyway? Asking as I'd like to know where that money goes...

 
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Navex said:
I'm curious - I live in a state where they still don't require or ask for online sale tax but some sites I shop on still tax me. Specifically I'm referring to BestBuy.com and I'm curious, what is this tax? A federal tax or state? If it's the latter even though the state at this time isn't requiring anything to do they just take it anyway? Asking as I'd like to know where that money goes...
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It goes to CheapyD, don't tell anybody I told you.... shhhhhhHHHH

 
Sales taxes goes to the state (for the most part). Bestbuy is well within their rights to collect sales tax. The fact that they aren't required to doesn't mean that they aren't able to.
 
Navex said:
I'm curious - I live in a state where they still don't require or ask for online sale tax but some sites I shop on still tax me. Specifically I'm referring to BestBuy.com and I'm curious, what is this tax? A federal tax or state? If it's the latter even though the state at this time isn't requiring anything to do they just take it anyway? Asking as I'd like to know where that money goes...
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Does Best Buy have a store in your state? if so, then because they have a retail presence, they must collect tax from you online.

 
Didn't say anything them not having a right to, was just wondering if te state still took the money or who did since they don't require it.

wiggyx said:
Sales taxes goes to the state (for the most part). Bestbuy is well within their rights to collect sales tax. The fact that they aren't required to doesn't mean that they aren't able to.
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Have even less reason to buy stuff from them now. Which sucks because its been nothing but great til this year. 

First they get rid of .99 cent day one shipping, now they are charging tax. I can just go across the street from the school and get my stuff like a normal person, but liked amazon because I had something waiting for me by time I actually got done with all my classes. Meh oh well. Time to give gamestop money /cringe

 
Valkerion said:
Have even less reason to buy stuff from them now. Which sucks because its been nothing but great til this year.

First they get rid of .99 cent day one shipping, now they are charging tax. I can just go across the street from the school and get my stuff like a normal person, but liked amazon because I had something waiting for me by time I actually got done with all my classes. Meh oh well. Time to give gamestop money /cringe
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Because GameStop isn't charging you tax?
 
Amazon has been pumping the market fairness act to tax online sales. Amazon is doing this to basically screw over all other online venders because they will soon have a warehouse in every state and charge tax anyways.

I don't like amazon and always look elsewhere before buying from them.

 
So if Amazon has a warehouse built in my state.  Will my orders arrive faster?

I guess I could live with the addition of sales tax. 

Then again, I'm not usually in a hurry with my orders since I almost always go for the Free Shipper Savings delivery. 

I think I should consider buying everything I want, before my state starts charging tax on my Amazon orders.

 
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EvilIA said:
Been paying Sales tax in Washington to Amazon for forever. I'm saving more in Gas Money by buying online.
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This is where Prime gets to really pay off, I live with in 5 miles of several Best Buy, Wal-Marts and Targets, it really doesn't matter to me. Before it was just convenience but since Amazon just matches everybody's sales it really doesn't matter if I go to a B&M store.

anotherpoorgamer said:
So if Amazon has a warehouse built in my state. Will my orders arrive faster?

I guess I could live with the addition of sales tax.

Then again, I'm not usually in a hurry with my orders since I almost always go for the Free Shipper Savings delivery.

I think I should consider buying everything I want, before my state starts charging tax on my Amazon orders.
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Just depends if they are a ship center and what type of merchandise they handle there.

 
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You can add WV to the list. Today wasn't a good day for Amazon in my eyes, as I learned about both the $35 FSSS limit & that they are now charging tax in my state.

 
Looks like Ohio has been added also.
Edit: Ohio is not being charged tax by amazon. Went through a 3rd party by mistake.
 
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bfauble83 said:
You can add WV to the list. Today wasn't a good day for Amazon in my eyes, as I learned about both the $35 FSSS limit & that they are now charging tax in my state.
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Yeah, this blows. I was hoping WV would stay off that list longer but all good things come to an end. Oh well, just means some things I'll just be able to get at stores instead since it won't pay to get from Amazon with them now collecting tax. I'm mad but it's not the end of the world since they still charge less than most places do, online or not.

 
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