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Goverrnment Shutdown 2013: The Obamapocalypse is here! :(


#61 Blaster man  

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:32 PM

Well, the "compromise" just means that we're going to go through the same thing again in 6 weeks. It's almost routine at this point, which it shouldn't be.


Well no. Right now there's a government shutdown because there is no budget and there is a debt ceiling issue. 6 weeks gives them time to focus on the budget then the debt ceiling again later instead of both at once.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:57 PM

Well no. Right now there's a government shutdown because there is no budget and there is a debt ceiling issue. 6 weeks gives them time to focus on the budget then the debt ceiling again later instead of both at once.

I didn't mean that we're going to go through another shutdown, but that we're going to have the same bullshit about Obamacare and debt ceiling fight that we've had every time it needed to be raised(and over the shitdown). We're already operating on a the sequester, which the conservatives wanted and we're starting to feel the longer term effects of it slowly trickling through the system.

Serious question, what makes you think that the next discussion over the debt ceiling will be different from the others?
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#63 Yagami   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1194 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:15 AM

Well no. Right now there's a government shutdown because there is no budget and there is a debt ceiling issue. 6 weeks gives them time to focus on the budget then the debt ceiling again later instead of both at once.

 

The way these discussions seem to go is they bullshit for 5 1/2 weeks, saying they are serious. The last couple of days they're like c'mon guys, we're really serious about you needing to negotiate, then when it's due or past due they're like "well I guess we should start negotiating"



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:31 AM

I just saw the Wall St Journal/NBC poll and :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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#65 usickenme   I'm the a-hole CAGiversary!   2499 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:31 AM

I think people are forgetting that the ACA was the compromise. It's a long way from what Obama and a lot dems wanted, universal healthcare. 



#66 UncleBob  

Posted 11 October 2013 - 05:26 AM

One of the issues I've had with the expansion of the Federal Government over state and local government is, if the Federal Government ceases to exist, then everyone is ****ing screwed.

 

Sit back and blame Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum as much as you want - but, in reality, you only have yourselves to blame for the damage done by this shutdown.


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#67 speedracer   Banned Banned   3735 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:32 AM

Well that didn't last long.  The House and Obama are happy with it but Reid is refusing to go along.

http://www.bostonglo...vPVK/story.html

 

Can't say I'm surprised. Reid is probably still pissed off about Boehner reneg'ing the deal they had (and then calling Reid a liar when Reid said they already had a deal). If I were Reid, I wouldn't trust a single word out of Boehner's mouth. Does Boehner even have the authority to negotiate and deliver votes for that negotiation?

 

Say fucking who? Him?

 

Torching the Senate leader alive turns out not to be an effective political strategy. Who knew?


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:43 PM

I almost feel bad for them.  *almost*.


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#69 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2413 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:49 PM

Again, what's the difference between a corporation/industry owning 1 guy for 40 years and a possible 20 guys for 40 years? The 20 guys because the corporate/industrial lobby STILL pays for them. More "choices" only changes the player; not the game.

There will never be that magical unicorn of a candidate because it's not what the system is made to allow and it never was.

The difference is that one scenario has the opportunity that the new guy can't be bought. At the very least, the lobbyists need to spend more after every term to ensure that they can own the new guy, court them, and create a new relationship. It makes them get a new mistress every 4-8 years rather than have a booty call on speed dial for life. That is a HUGE change. And I agree, there will never be a magical candidate, but if you have higher turnover, you've got a better chance of at least finding an improvement.  

 

I think most people would agree that the vast majority of Congress are self serving assholes, so if you make the vast majority shake it up every so often, that breaks down GENERATIONAL representation. Again, I can't fathom how it's a positive thing, to have people serve in Congress for over 30 years. They are an institution at that point, not a representative.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:18 PM

"in reality, you only have yourselves to blame for the damage done by this shutdown."

 

 

 

In who's reality?  The districts are so gerrymandered in favor of republicans in the house that people forget they LOST the last popular vote 46% to 54%, but most of their seats are secure.  These people didn't get voted in.  They lost and got gerrymandered in.  Then the party that controls one half of one part of congress (that they shouldn't) is trying to run the country their way when they LOST.  They've voted to repeal Obamacare 40 or so odd times and failed.  The Supreme Court ruled it constitutional.  The republicans are whiny, spoiled rich kids who are wanting to take their ball and go home, but the weird part is, it's not even their f***ing ball to take!  I'll grant that a lot of voters are misinformed, but to blame people who didn't draw the districts is ridiculous. I don't even vote in my area of TN, because republicans have locked up the vote here and a democrat hasn't held it in decades.  


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#71 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2413 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:25 PM

"in reality, you only have yourselves to blame for the damage done by this shutdown."

 

 

 

In who's reality?  The districts are so gerrymandered in favor of republicans in the house that people forget they LOST the last popular vote 46% to 54%, but most of their seats are secure.  These people didn't get voted in.  They lost and got gerrymandered in.  Then the party that controls one half of one part of congress (that they shouldn't) is trying to run the country their way when they LOST.  They've voted to repeal Obamacare 40 or so odd times and failed.  The Supreme Court ruled it constitutional.  The republicans are whiny, spoiled rich kids who are wanting to take their ball and go home, but the weird part is, it's not even their f***ing ball to take!  I'll grant that a lot of voters are misinformed, but to blame people who didn't draw the districts is ridiculous. I don't even vote in my area of TN, because republicans have locked up the vote here and a democrat hasn't held it in decades.  

Gerrymandering works both ways. Don't be that naïve.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 05:05 PM

Why is it just accepted the new guys
couldnt just be bought also?
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#73 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2413 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

Posted 11 October 2013 - 05:28 PM

Why is it just accepted the new guys
couldnt just be bought also?

I haven't said that at all. Each time I've said that is exactly what might happen, but if you've got a wife, you can get fat and lazy. Not take her out on dates very often. You did all the work in the dating phase. If you have to date all over again every 4-8 years, at least you have to spend more money, more time, and more effort to woo these new prospects. If you need to woo 10 people over 40 years, versus 1 person over 40 years, the chances of somebody not being impressed with you are obviously higher when it's 10 people that need to be considered.

 

Hey, the shady lobbyist purchased politicians process may end up being the exact same, but at least the scenario of new blood in there every 4-8 years means you have a chance for things to be different. I'm way more eager to have a chance at something positive, rather than know for a fact that nothing positive will happen.  



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:39 AM

Gerrymandering works both ways. Don't be that naïve.


Republicans have the house nearly locked up because of Gerrymandering. Don't be so naive as to think it's equally done.
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:39 AM

Come Tuesday we'll have gone 61 months without the GOP wrecking the economy and I say bravo. Deregulation of banks let them dress up securities as AAA and they've somehow resisted the temptation to make my property and savings take another 30% haircut until now, because heaven forbid Johnny Emo can see a psychiatrist for the cost of a copay when he gets out of college so he doesn't shoot me at Batman vs Superman. Oh no, we can't have any discussion whatsoever about making assault rifles or high capacity clips harder to obtain, we need to fix all mental problems by Americans first, so we try to make that a tad easier for people oh wait it's a black guys idea? Lets nuke the economy instead. The first words out of Romneys mouth when asked the first thing he'd do when elected president every God Damn time was "The first thing I'll do is repeal Obamacare." Every time. He loses by 120 electoral votes, the law gets passed, challenged in the Supreme Court, but no because big government bad. How intellectually lazy are these people? These are the same people who name their kids and dogs after Ayn Rand characters. The descendants of the people who fought for the South in the Civil War so that like 10% of the people in those states could own slaves. So when the Dow drops to 12k on Thursday because apparently the representatives of places like Utah and Texas (states known for their down the middle views representative of average Americans) have earned the right to call the shots for all Americans I'll just be thankful for the period of sanity we got.
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#76 Blaster man  

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:33 PM

Wait, they're throwing in the towel?  30 people representing only 7% of the population has forced the House of Reps to cede their power to the Senate Republican's?
http://www.usatoday....ollins/2971575/



#77 Blaster man  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:15 PM

So let me get this straight, the World War 2 memorial is closed just like everything else because of the government shutdown and a few people (Republican activists) are stupid enough to believe that Obama "decided" to close the national parks?  No they're not stupid but they're counting on the public being stupid, just like with all that anti-Obama shit they spouted during the elections (he's not American, he's Muslim (why does this even matter?), he's going to take the guns, he's going to declare martial law, etc). 

 

Now we've got people calling for impeachment of the first black President while waving confederate flags.  They aren't even trying to hide the racism.

 

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And another

http://freakoutnatio...eached-resigns/

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Meanwhile, the Chinese "envy" the shutdown.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101109056



#78 FlyingAce39   Flyin' High Again CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 2.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:13 PM

 

Now we've got people calling for impeachment of the first black President while waving confederate flags.  They aren't even trying to hide the racism.

 

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And another

http://freakoutnatio...eached-resigns/

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Meanwhile, the Chinese "envy" the shutdown.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101109056

People like you irritate me.

First of all, the Confederate flag is NOT a symbol of racism. It's a symbol of Southern pride (No different than the rainbow flag is to the gays.) and it's also a symbol of rebellion. (Which is why it's called the "rebel" flag, too.) The fact that there was slavery in the South at the same time as the flag does NOT mean it's a symbol of racism. A symbol of racism would be the KKK's "burning cross" flag, such as this one.

http://www.crwflags....es/u/us}kkk.gif

Second of all, he can wave it if he wants. Remember that First Amendment thing that they taught you in school? That applies to him, too. Especially to him, since he's also a veteran who's waving a USMC flag.

The Nazi flag, although I disagree with it and would like to see it taken down, is also in the same category. First Amendment rights.

Get an education before opening your f***ing mouth.


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#79 Blaster man  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:51 PM

People like you irritate me.

First of all, the Confederate flag is NOT a symbol of racism. It's a symbol of Southern pride (No different than the rainbow flag is to the gays.) and it's also a symbol of rebellion. (Which is why it's called the "rebel" flag, too.) The fact that there was slavery in the South at the same time as the flag does NOT mean it's a symbol of racism. A symbol of racism would be the KKK's "burning cross" flag, such as this one.

http://www.crwflags....es/u/us}kkk.gif

Second of all, he can wave it if he wants. Remember that First Amendment thing that they taught you in school? That applies to him, too. Especially to him, since he's also a veteran who's waving a USMC flag.

The Nazi flag, although I disagree with it and would like to see it taken down, is also in the same category. First Amendment rights.

Get an education before opening your f***ing mouth.

You might believe that's what it means to *you* but that's not what it means to everyone else.  We don't need to go into a history lesson here, everyone knows what the south was trying to keep going.  Oh I'm sure it was allll about states rights which is why they left the union right after Lincoln was elected.  I'm sure the confederate states of america were going to free the slaves.  Even if you were right (you're not), the meanings of things can change over time.  It happens all the time, look at the political party's.  I wonder why these guys have a confederate flag next to theirs?

 

http://www.huffingto..._n_4059498.html

 

 

Not only do these tea baggers hate that there's a black President, they also hate Muslims.  First off, he isn't Muslim.  Second, if he was, why the hell does that matter?  Why didn't they say "put the bible down"?  Gee I wonder.  Xenophobia.

http://www.salon.com...the_quran_down/



#80 CaptainJoel   Where there's Smoke, there's Fire CAGiversary!   14142 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:47 PM

So let me get this straight, the World War 2 memorial is closed just like everything else because of the government shutdown and a few people (Republican activists) are stupid enough to believe that Obama "decided" to close the national parks?  No they're not stupid but they're counting on the public being stupid, just like with all that anti-Obama shit they spouted during the elections (he's not American, he's Muslim (why does this even matter?), he's going to take the guns, he's going to declare martial law, etc). 

 

Now we've got people calling for impeachment of the first black President while waving confederate flags.  They aren't even trying to hide the racism.

It's more than a few. I live right outside an army base and 90% of the people in this town and on base believe that Obama closed all parks and the WWII memorial just to spite the veterans and citizens of the USA. It's fucking crazy.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 06:34 PM

You might believe that's what it means to *you* but that's not what it means to everyone else.  We don't need to go into a history lesson here, everyone knows what the south was trying to keep going.  Oh I'm sure it was allll about states rights which is why they left the union right after Lincoln was elected.  I'm sure the confederate states of america were going to free the slaves.  Even if you were right (you're not), the meanings of things can change over time.  It happens all the time, look at the political party's.  I wonder why these guys have a confederate flag next to theirs?

 

http://www.huffingto..._n_4059498.html

 

 

Not only do these tea baggers hate that there's a black President, they also hate Muslims.  First off, he isn't Muslim.  Second, if he was, why the hell does that matter?  Why didn't they say "put the bible down"?  Gee I wonder.  Xenophobia.

http://www.salon.com...the_quran_down/

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAA.......the US gov't thrives on misinformed citizens voting party lines over meaningless, trivial differences. The Left is just as guilty, if not more so, than the Right. The true heart of the Tea Party is people who are fiscal conservatives that can't stand to see how out of control gov't spending is. Racists idiots are on the fringe of both parties, stereotyping a whole group as such is dishonest and goofy.

 

What a great country we could be if everyone was well informed or at least truly cared what was happening in Washington. We have become too comfortable and lazy.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:01 PM

Black presidents rule.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:06 PM

It's more than a few. I live right outside an army base and 90% of the people in this town and on base believe that Obama closed all parks and the WWII memorial just to spite the veterans and citizens of the USA. It's fucking crazy.

 

Thats what happens when all they have is muscles...  and possible inbreeding



#84 Finger_Shocker   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   976 Posts   Joined 2.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:12 PM

People like you irritate me.

First of all, the Confederate flag is NOT a symbol of racism. It's a symbol of Southern pride (No different than the rainbow flag is to the gays.) and it's also a symbol of rebellion. (Which is why it's called the "rebel" flag, too.) The fact that there was slavery in the South at the same time as the flag does NOT mean it's a symbol of racism. A symbol of racism would be the KKK's "burning cross" flag, such as this one.

http://www.crwflags....es/u/us}kkk.gif

Second of all, he can wave it if he wants. Remember that First Amendment thing that they taught you in school? That applies to him, too. Especially to him, since he's also a veteran who's waving a USMC flag.

The Nazi flag, although I disagree with it and would like to see it taken down, is also in the same category. First Amendment rights.

Get an education before opening your f***ing mouth.

 

LOL!!!! cause those southerners were so fighting for a "just" cause  :/

 

That damn Confederate flag was sure a symbol of those "freedom" fighters...  I guess it meant freedom to the white men while enslavement of the colored ones.... :roll:



#85 FlyingAce39   Flyin' High Again CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 2.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:37 PM

LOL!!!! cause those southerners were so fighting for a "just" cause  :/

 

That damn Confederate flag was sure a symbol of those "freedom" fighters...  I guess it meant freedom to the white men while enslavement of the colored ones.... :roll:

Yes, they were. The Civil War was fought not over slavery, despite what YOU may think. It was a war because the South seceded from the Union. The Union didn't like it, so they waged war against the South. Ever wonder why there's 13 white stars on the confederate flag? Probably not. Too much thinking for you, more than likely. You just do whatever everyone tells you, right?

There are 13 Confederate states; Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, and Missouri. One star for each flag. These were the states of the C.S.A. and their flag was, as you idiots call it, "the racist flag". Southerners fly this flag because it's a symbol of rebellion and independence.

Oh, and as for the "enslavement of the colored ones", not every Confederate citizen/soldier had slaves. For example, Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston owned not a single slave nor did they believe in slavery. Also, there was slavery in the North, too. Maryland, for example, had slaves.

Now go get an education before you hurt yourself.


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#86 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 09:55 PM

Yes, they were. The Civil War was fought not over slavery, despite what YOU may think. It was a war because the South seceded from the Union. The Union didn't like it, so they waged war against the South. Ever wonder why there's 13 white stars on the confederate flag? Probably not. Too much thinking for you, more than likely. You just do whatever everyone tells you, right?

There are 13 Confederate states; Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, and Missouri. One star for each flag. These were the states of the C.S.A. and their flag was, as you idiots call it, "the racist flag". Southerners fly this flag because it's a symbol of rebellion and independence.

Oh, and as for the "enslavement of the colored ones", not every Confederate citizen/soldier had slaves. For example, Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston owned not a single slave nor did they believe in slavery. Also, there was slavery in the North, too. Maryland, for example, had slaves.

Now go get an education before you hurt yourself.


Yep buddy, and the Nazi flag is actually a Hindu symbol of peace. People don't fly that flag to remember the civil war, they do it to be racist, antagonizing assholes. The other part of that story you conveniently left out is that even though it was fought over secession, the reason for their secession was slavery.

#87 FlyingAce39   Flyin' High Again CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 2.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:05 PM

You might believe that's what it means to *you* but that's not what it means to everyone else.  We don't need to go into a history lesson here, everyone knows what the south was trying to keep going.  Oh I'm sure it was allll about states rights which is why they left the union right after Lincoln was elected.  I'm sure the confederate states of america were going to free the slaves.  Even if you were right (you're not), the meanings of things can change over time.  It happens all the time, look at the political party's.  I wonder why these guys have a confederate flag next to theirs?

 

http://www.huffingto..._n_4059498.html

 

 

Not only do these tea baggers hate that there's a black President, they also hate Muslims.  First off, he isn't Muslim.  Second, if he was, why the hell does that matter?  Why didn't they say "put the bible down"?  Gee I wonder.  Xenophobia.

http://www.salon.com...the_quran_down/

That's the KKK. They're idiots. They use the flag because they also have Southern pride. They link their BS beliefs to racism. It's stupid and the fact that they made that connection is bullsh*t. I totally agree with you on that. I don't think the Southern flag should have any connection to the KKK.


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#88 FlyingAce39   Flyin' High Again CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 2.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

Yep buddy, and the Nazi flag is actually a Hindu symbol of peace. People don't fly that flag to remember the civil war, they do it to be racist, antagonizing assholes. The other part of that story you conveniently left out is that even though it was fought over secession, the reason for their secession was slavery.

LOL!!!!

... oh, wait. You're serious.

Well, here. This oughta make you seem less stupid.

http://www2.lhric.or...ilwar/south.htm


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#89 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2413 Posts   Joined 7.3 Years Ago  

Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:29 PM

Yep buddy, and the Nazi flag is actually a Hindu symbol of peace. People don't fly that flag to remember the civil war, they do it to be racist, antagonizing assholes. The other part of that story you conveniently left out is that even though it was fought over secession, the reason for their secession was slavery.

Yah, I'm actually against people displaying the Confederate Flag because people do it to be antagonizing assholes, as you accurately note, but Lincoln once said "If I could save the Union without freeing a single slave, by God I would do it." Slavery was a factor, but it was not the sole, or even main purpose for going to war. It was all economics. People like to overlook this and Lincoln's quote, when calling him the great Emancipator.



#90 dohdough   Sum Dum Guy CAGiversary!   6441 Posts   Joined 6.1 Years Ago  

Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:59 PM

Yah, I'm actually against people displaying the Confederate Flag because people do it to be antagonizing assholes, as you accurately note, but Lincoln once said "If I could save the Union without freeing a single slave, by God I would do it." Slavery was a factor, but it was not the sole, or even main purpose for going to war. It was all economics. People like to overlook this and Lincoln's quote, when calling him the great Emancipator.

All true, but the economy of the South was based on slavery. Without it, the whole thing collapses. It was so important that there are parts of their constitution that explicitly state that it can't outlaw slavery. Maybe the founders of the CSA were cynically using racism, but I highly doubt it. It's like saying Michelle Bachmann doesn't believe a lick of what comes out of her mouth.

 

Personally, I feel like Lincoln is doing a little politiking/pandering in that quote(I'm sure I'm not the only one either), but he had no love for slavery.


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