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CAGcast #343: A Fan of Yours

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#31 Sgt Barone   CAG since 2008 CAGiversary!   2035 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Sgt Barone

Posted 08 November 2013 - 05:38 PM

Excellent show as always guys!



#32 codenamelenny   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   200 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

codenamelenny

Posted 08 November 2013 - 05:58 PM

Great show as usual (except wombat went a little long about the Live thing).

I don't think you guys need to address people calling you guys xbox fanboys. I think it's obvious that all of you prefer Xbox over Playstation/Nintendo and there isn't anything wrong with that. Throughout the generation I had biased towards different consoles, started with wii, then 360, then wii, then ended with PS3 (because of PS plus). Right now I am in the WiiU camp but I still love listening to the CAGcast. Between the two, I would say the PS4 is a more appealing console, but there are more games coming out on Xbox one that I am interested in. If you guys address the xbox comments just say you guys prefer the xbox brand more and move on, don't feed the sony trolls.



#33 LiK   Internet Superstar CAGiversary!   2303 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:09 PM

LOL, the Killer Instinct discussion was funny.

#34 Sgt Barone   CAG since 2008 CAGiversary!   2035 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Sgt Barone

Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:38 PM

No one would care if you brought back ads, Cheapy.  Stick a couple of banner ads at the top and bottom, and put in a few more for people who aren't members, and you'll be all set.  Take advantage of the holiday traffic.



#35 Jasper Kazai   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   184 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Jasper Kazai

Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:45 PM

Today I learned that Japanese wackiness is good, but Japanese wonkiness is bad.

 

(I just thought it was funny how Cheapy summed it up as that and the words are so close to each other.)



#36 DragoonKnight   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   227 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

DragoonKnight

Posted 08 November 2013 - 07:07 PM

Holy cow that Killer Instinct discussion was horrendous.

"It's a matter of nomenclature, they shouldn't call it a loyalty program"

"But they didn't use the word loyalty"

"Give me my free shit dammit!!!"

Best Buy gives out "random" reward certs all the time and I don't see Wombat calling Best Buy to ask why he wasn't one of the chosen few to receive them. The only difference is that in this case Wombat feels entitled to something so he whined and whined and whined about it. If this were the first time Wombat whined about not getting free stuff I'd ignore it, but honestly it's a bit ridiculous. Kazoo!

#37 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11158 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

guardian_owl

Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:05 PM

Is it just me, or does the intro music sound like a rapping muppet?

 

I agree Wombat, I also get annoyed when random people get "good customer" things and I don't, like the $5 Best Buy certificates that are sent out to random customers.

 

Daredevil Director's cut is good, in the theatrical he is all daredevil with very little matt murdock, the DC adds back in the Murdock. If we're playing editor, I would have not added back in the scene with bullseye acting like a toddler (because its stupid) at the airport and kingpin randomly killing his own henchmen (because it is out of character with what we have seen of him from the rest of the film).

 

In reading some of the COD reviews it seems the scores are lower because it is a step back feature-wise. Some of the refinements featured in the previous game were dropped. The replacement of the pick 10 system with an alledgely inferior perk system was something that I saw repeated in a lot of reviews.

 

Also, Dead Rising 3 is locked at 720P...and 30 FPS... :-



#38 canestim   CAG Cane CAGiversary!   164 Posts   Joined 15.2 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:25 PM

Wombat didn't deliver the facts correctly (what's new? :) )  but I mostly agree with him about the Xbox Killer Instinct giveaway.  I think one reason it makes you feel slighted is because you're an Xbox supporter (not a fanboy) and all you hear lately is the shit storm Sony fanboys are spewing (resolution, drm, price, kinect).  And you are spending your hard earned money as an early adopter (and long time supporter) only to see others rewarded with no clear reason as to why.

 

Shipwreck you sounded a little douchey during the whole KI discussion, I'll chock it up to you being tired with a newborn.  But you came off a little hateful and not joking, not cool.  Cheapy always sounds douchey so... ;)  Either way the bit was funny and entertaining.

 

About half way through but so far so good. 



#39 Ehker  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:31 PM

Best Buy gives out "random" reward certs all the time and I don't see Wombat calling Best Buy to ask why he wasn't one of the chosen few to receive them. The only difference is that in this case Wombat feels entitled to something so he whined and whined and whined about it. If this were the first time Wombat whined about not getting free stuff I'd ignore it, but honestly it's a bit ridiculous. Kazoo!

 

I don't know about Best Buy, but that's some rewards program where I assume everyone gets something. This is an uncommon gesture by MS to offer some members something and leave other fairly hardcore members with nothing.

 

It's also amplified when their direct competition is Sony who is giving away a month of PS+ that comes with access to two new PS4 games and a $10 credit for all the new PS4 buyers. Just bad timing to make a bunch of Xbox One buyers feel left out of the freebies



#40 usickenme   I'm the a-hole CAGiversary!   2559 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

usickenme

Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:37 PM

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      We are not in business with Microsoft, nor do we have a financial interest. We have opinions that differ from yours. That doesn't make us shills, it makes us people.
       
       

 

 

 

not quite there, mooch. Just because you are not  being paid by MS (nor are you above calling a vagina clown a vagina clown) doesn't mean you don't have a bias, clearly you all do - towards Xbox/ MS.  Quite frankly for Cheapy to act like all these "Sony People" are the problem is perhaps the height of myopia and rather insulting. 

 

That said. I don’t really care that you prefer a company.  (Even though it limits the range of topics on the CAGcast, you still manage to fill an hour).  Just be honest.  It’s weird, Cheapy and Shipwreck have no problem telling everyone they like Apple consumer products more. But suggest they like MS products more for gaming and they can’t play the “you’re a fanboy” card fast enough.

 

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n.

1. a condition of the eye in which parallel rays are focused in front of the retina, objects being seen distinctly only when near to the eye; nearsightedness (opposed to hyperopia).
2. lack of foresight or discernment.
3. narrow-mindedness.


#41 Ehker  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:49 PM

Come on, usickenme, no need for name calling. Having a preference doesn't make someone a shill, especially when Wombat is pointing out faults in this move by MS. Cheapy almost seems uninterested in consoles and is just PC PC PC these days anyway.



#42 maxiell   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   417 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:53 PM

After Shipwreck's flacking last week, it would have been deeply wrong for him to not receive Killer Instinct. Meanwhile Wombat's on the fast road to the PS4, so why should Microsoft bother with him?



#43 GOTA   I'm.... CAGiversary!   195 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:35 PM

I'd much rather see some ads than the same Deadpool and Saint Row IV banners that have been up for months now.



#44 shipwreck   CAG Reviews Editor Super Moderators   7576 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:40 PM

I'd much rather see some ads than the same Deadpool and Saint Row IV banners that have been up for months now.


More reviews soon. Been a little busy.

#45 staticz   FortySixin CAGiversary!   3045 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:22 PM

Great show guys. Some of the comments in here are pretty comical. I hope that the people making them realize they are the exact folks that Cheapy was talking about.

 

edit: Put the ads back as well. As long as they aren't super intrusive, no one should care.



#46 urge26   No time for games CAGiversary!   353 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:53 PM

Cheapy your announcement of putting ads on CAG means I'm done with the site.  It's been fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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tis ok cheapy, we love you.



#47 usickenme   I'm the a-hole CAGiversary!   2559 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

usickenme

Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:19 PM

 I hope that the people making them realize they are the exact folks that Cheapy was talking about.

 

 

right on schedule...



#48 Darth Sontin   Ostrava of Boletaria CAGiversary!   339 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Darth Sontin

Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:30 PM

Cheapy, I don't think it's Sony fans being passionate about the PS4 that you're seeing. Starting with the Adam Orth incident, the vocal contingent of annoying internet gamers assumed that Microsoft was taking away gamers' rights and that Sony was the champion of personal liberty. Once the systems were announced and especially at E3, their assumptions were proved to be true so they became even louder and more obnoxious about it. Anything on Reddit bashing the Xbox One for any reason was immediately upvoted to the front page. There was a post with thousands of upvotes about how evil Microsoft was for not adjusting the European price based on the Euro/USD exchange rate, even though every single electronics manufacturer including Sony uses the same pricing structure.

 

I wish people would realize that Sony is only humble and catering to gamers because Microsoft embarrassed them so badly last generation. I am interested to see how Microsoft behaves with the roles seeming to be reversed this time.



#49 CheapyD   Head Cheap Ass Administrators   17772 Posts   Joined 16.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 12:42 AM

Yes, it is my opinion that the Xbox 360 was the superior console for at least the first half of this generation.  I think we've all be pretty clear that is what we believe.  We are plenty critical of every company's screw-ups (including Microsoft and Apple), and if you don't recognize that, that's your shortcoming.

 

When I see someone haphazardly throw around the terms "biased" or "shill" I automatically assume it's them with the bias or perhaps...



#50 AriesDog   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   767 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

AriesDog

Posted 09 November 2013 - 02:31 AM

I want to argue against Wombat's hate of the Xbox One Tour. Yes, they have the vans that are stopping at stores and malls. They also have tailgating events at stadiums and those big arena events at most major cities. I went to the Philadelphia Arena event and got to play every Xbox One launch game. Also, this week Microsoft Stores have gotten demo units and were showing off a few titles.

 

My point? Xbox has been getting out there showing off the games and new system to the public. Sony hasn't shown off the PS4 to anybody but industry pro reviewers. Not saying the PS4 is better or worse.  But one system is almost secretly launching. The other has real people trying it out and telling their friends they played it. I got quizzed by my friends about how it looked, how the controller felt, and on and on.



#51 Mogambi   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   317 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 02:35 AM

Nice show Cheapy, Wombat and Shipwreck. Keep up the good work!



#52 GunMetalJackal   Tech-Gaming.com CAGiversary!   63 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

GunMetalJackal

Posted 09 November 2013 - 03:34 AM

The reason you guys get so much crap from Playstation fanboys is because there is a secret Playstation society and you are 29th from the bottom on their shitlist. Now excuse me while I flee before they find me.



#53 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3649 Posts   Joined 10.0 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 04:05 AM

I want to argue against Wombat's hate of the Xbox One Tour. Yes, they have the vans that are stopping at stores and malls. They also have tailgating events at stadiums and those big arena events at most major cities. I went to the Philadelphia Arena event and got to play every Xbox One launch game. Also, this week Microsoft Stores have gotten demo units and were showing off a few titles.

 

My point? Xbox has been getting out there showing off the games and new system to the public. Sony hasn't shown off the PS4 to anybody but industry pro reviewers. Not saying the PS4 is better or worse.  But one system is almost secretly launching. The other has real people trying it out and telling their friends they played it. I got quizzed by my friends about how it looked, how the controller felt, and on and on.

 

Sony has been a little slower, but they're setting up demo units across the country at retailers. I finally got a chance to play one at Best Buy, but they need to try to get more out there. The St Louis Metro Area has 3 stores right now with active kiosks (Kansas City, MO has none), but they need to get more of them active and they really need to update the selection of games/firmware. Either way, I'll have mine in less than a week, so it's hard for me to complain.

http://experienceplaystation.com/

 

I think Nintendo did the best with the original Wii by setting up Kiosks in Malls with those Nintendo Reps during the Holiday Season it was released.



#54 usickenme   I'm the a-hole CAGiversary!   2559 Posts   Joined 15.8 Years Ago  

usickenme

Posted 09 November 2013 - 04:55 AM

That's the mature way to approach criticism ...automatically assuming everyone else has an issue but you .

#55 mwmike11   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   76 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

mwmike11

Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:18 AM

I agree with Wombat...to a point. I don't care that they didn't give me the KI code (for a number of reasons: not getting the console at launch, only been a loyal Live Gold member since 2010, low Gamerscore, etc.), but they should have, at the very least, explained what went into the decisions. That they didn't is fine, but it does tend to make some of us that are loyal Xbox members feel slightly left out.

 

I'm loving LEGO Marvel, easily the best one of the series (if you can call it that...maybe franchise is a better word), even if it is on the longer side of things. Sooooo many characters and SOOOO much to do.

 

I'm curious to know you guys' thoughts on Games for Gold so far, and whether you think it will be carrying over to Xbox One, even if it will be a while.

 

Personally, this whole console war is just getting exhausting. I'm blaming the gaming websites, like IGN, Kotaku, and Gamespot. They always have HIGHLY misleading headlines or just baiting headlines to get page clicks and that, in turn, causes the trolls and anti-Microsoft fanboys to flock. Hell, IGN had one just the last couple days, "Your Xbox One Can do 'Nothing' Until Patched on Day One," that is currently sitting at 7167 comments, most of which are Sony fanboys calling the console shit, Microsoft fans morons for getting the console, and touting how AMAZING the PlayStation 4 is. Never mind that the exact same thing is true of the PS4 and it's day one patch. And I've noticed no one has mentioned the new overheating rumor and the fact that there STILL is no PS4 demo unit in Walmart or Target, even with the console less than a week away from launch. It's all just exhausting...



#56 just-joe   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   134 Posts   Joined 9.6 Years Ago  

just-joe

Posted 09 November 2013 - 07:17 AM

I pulled the clip in case anyone wants to easily relive the compaints:

Listen on Soundcloud.com

 

Should probably put the star spangled banner in the background when Wombat talks about speaking for the people.



#57 CheapyD   Head Cheap Ass Administrators   17772 Posts   Joined 16.4 Years Ago  

Posted 09 November 2013 - 07:58 AM

Bottom line Cag Crew...no matter what you say or do on your show people are going to label you something and bitch and complain about you. So it is always best to just be yourself and let the chips fall where they may and ignore all of the crap.

Do you think the guys @Giant Bomb give 2 shits what the internet says about them? I mean they were playing Wind Jammers over the weekend for a live stream, lol. They shit all almost everything and it is funny as hell to me but some people cal them idiots.

Just keep doing what your doing..its working right?


Exactly. Trust me, if it really bothered me, I wouldn't be posting anything on the Internet. I do the podcast because I enjoy it, not because it's necessary for my livelihood.

If someone really believed we were that biased and unreasonable, why would they continue to listen? I know if I thought someone was full of shit, I wouldn't waste my time.

#58 4nik8tor   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   206 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

4nik8tor

Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:53 AM

Im waiting another year. 

 

I'll sit back and laugh at whats to come.



#59 Airplanespin   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   26 Posts   Joined 8.1 Years Ago  

Airplanespin

Posted 09 November 2013 - 11:10 AM

It took me awhile to even lurk around here, let alone post.  I found the site because of the deals, but my natural inclination was still to not bother with the forums, or anything past the OP, because the inherent nature of video game message board discourse leaves much to be desired.  Once I started listening to the podcast and took a more than cursory glance at the forum, my mind changed and it was worth a modicum of my time.

 

That said, If I felt the podcasts were a shill, or you three were anything less than even keeled and objective when it comes to gaming, I definitely wouldn't have stayed.  Fuck those guys.



#60 TheDrypa   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   23 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

TheDrypa

Posted 09 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

Hearing Wombat complain on how he not got something for free, and then try to justify his complaints by saying the wording Microsoft used was wrong was hilarious. Resembled the ramblings of a child who didn't get sweets from his mother. Also, for every opinion you guys have, there are always good arguments that follow. You all say what's on your minds, even if that means pissing off the fanboys. If there are people that don't like what you guys are saying, they can go and listen to Playstation or Xbox podcasts for their daily propaganda dosis. Loved the show guys, keep up the good work.