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#23821 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36176 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:01 PM

My Danganronpa 3 is the LE from NISA, it says delivery for today, don't know how that will go. Might be in for a surprise when I get home. YS VIII is also LE from NISA, I opened it to fondle it.

 

You are on Ys Celceta? Game is relatively quick for non-trophy hunters? HLTB says 12 hours.

Yeah, it's not that it's taking a while, just that I recently platted Collar x Malice after playing it for the past 1-2 weeks and am now getting back into Celceta.

 

12 hours? I'm at that playtime and I think I'm only halfway through. I'm not exactly playing slowly, but I'm trying to get everything. :-k


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#23822 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3136 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:02 PM

It is also true that existing non-ESRB rated LRG titles are going to jump in value, and will continue to do so as the years go by. Thanks to this new platform-dictated policy, the number of LRG titles with ESRB ratings will continue to grow, while the number of titles without the rating will be static. If LRG hangs around long enough, the number of rating-less titles will be outstripped by the rating-bearing titles. Then we'll have a scenario on our hands similar to the original-label and greatest-hits versions of the past. Often times, the greatest number of sales for a title comes from its greatest-hits print run. These are normally released later in a console's retail presence, allowing for a much larger install base. They are also usually part of a budget-line, making them much easier on the wallet. These factors often allow a title to sell the greatest number of copies during its greatest-hits print run. And this sort of scenario always boosts the value of the physical copies with the original labels.

The problem with this argument is that it assumes that there will be reprints of the past LRG titles. LRG has already stated that they will not do reprints (it would destroy their public image and business model). Yes, the developer could do a reprint with someone else, but none of the other small publishers are able to compete with LRG at this point.

 

Old LRG titles will stay in demand because they are part of a single print run. Yes, they could (and likely will) lead to them increasing in value over time. However, I don't see how the lack of an ESRB rating would cause it to increase by much more since it's already a limited pool for each title that won't grow (at least through LRG).


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#23823 Alexpguy  

Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:08 PM

They introduced trading cards a few months ago.

Moe Chronicles was never through LRG.

Sorry, I meant Mystery Chronicles. I got the guy on my card, will they have a girl card variant too?

#23824 TooPoor   ∀ Game, ∃ Buy Price CAGiversary!   11184 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:15 PM

Yeah, it's not that it's taking a while, just that I recently platted Collar x Malice after playing it for the past 1-2 weeks and am now getting back into Celceta.

 

12 hours? I'm at that playtime and I think I'm only halfway through. I'm not exactly playing slowly, but I'm trying to get everything. :-k

Typo...21 hours...sorry...

 

From what you said I'd say it is about right.

 

Also, didn't know you were into otome games. I played Code: Realize and might stay off the genre for a while, I do not reject the concept but "gameplay" is simply too boring.


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#23825 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2453 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:17 PM

Old LRG titles will stay in demand because they are part of a single print run. Yes, they could (and likely will) lead to them increasing in value over time. However, I don't see how the lack of an ESRB rating would cause it to increase by much more since it's already a limited pool for each title that won't grow (at least through LRG).

 

Think about it for a second. Before now, any independently published game released for a major console could be printed out without an ESRB rating. In the case of LRG, this was the norm. It was essentially the normal scenario for anyone looking to go this route. Under those circumstances, an officially released physical copy of a game without an ESRB rating was nothing special. It was the de-facto option for a developer too small to warrant the extra expense of getting a physical ESRB rating.

 

But with this shift in policy from the major console platform holders, that door is now closed. And there will never again be officially-sanctioned physical game releases that don't have ESRB ratings. Before, LRG and their lack of ESRB ratings were little more than a curiosity. Their rarity was based only on their low print numbers. With this change, they are now going to be THE ONLY PS4 and Vita physical titles that have no ESRB ratings, and yet are still official releases. And they will hold that distinction forever.

 

For game collecting, that is going to be a big deal. Whether or not these games get reprinted is irrelevant. Just the distinction of not having an ESRB rating is now a point of scarcity in and of itself. If they do get reprinted with an ESRB rating, whether through LRG or through a different publisher, it won't diminish the scarcity and value of the initial print runs. All of these early LRG releases now have a unique selling point that sets them apart from all other potentially collectible game titles, as well as their inherent scarcity from small print runs.



#23826 Chrono Gear   For the Horde! CAGiversary!   5113 Posts   Joined 7.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:24 PM

Think about it for a second. Before now, any independently published game released for a major console could be printed out without an ESRB rating. In the case of LRG, this was the norm. It was essentially the normal scenario for anyone looking to go this route. Under those circumstances, an officially released physical copy of a game without an ESRB rating was nothing special. It was the de-facto option for a developer too small to warrant the extra expense of getting a physical ESRB rating.

But with this shift in policy from the major console platform holders, that door is now closed. And there will never again be officially-sanctioned physical game releases that don't have ESRB ratings. Before, LRG and their lack of ESRB ratings were little more than a curiosity. Their rarity was based only on their low print numbers. With this change, they are now going to be THE ONLY PS4 and Vita physical titles that have no ESRB ratings, and yet are still official releases. And they will hold that distinction forever.

For game collecting, that is going to be a big deal. Whether or not these games get reprinted is irrelevant. Just the distinction of not having an ESRB rating is now a point of scarcity in and of itself. If they do get reprinted with an ESRB rating, whether through LRG or through a different publisher, it won't diminish the scarcity and value of the initial print runs. All of these early LRG releases now have a unique selling point that sets them apart from all other potentially collectible game titles, as well as their inherent scarcity from small print runs.

Where were you when I had to explain to everyone in the Amiibo thread what a variant was and why the distinction matters to collectors? Lol


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#23827 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5304 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:36 PM

Where were you when I had to explain to everyone in the Amiibo thread what a variant was and why the distinction matters to collectors? Lol


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Variants in general are sold in that manner, and are limited in that it is a "variant" when it was produced, sold and advertised.

 

I'm not going to say the ESRB won't be a selling point to someone, but I personally don't see that adding anything to an already "limited" item. Will B&C now be worth more simply because it isn't rated, when newer games will be?

 

Honestly, I see both sides of the equation being discussed here, but it's a "chicken & egg" argument. I don't know that anyone could ever prove the ESRB has driven up the collector's market, unless at some point games that didn't command much start to over time, but who's to say that didn't come from more consumers wanting it, and less qty being available?



#23828 csbaker-az  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:54 PM

Speculate speculate speculate speculate speculate speculate speculate blah blah blah.  This is why normal people can't buy things anymore unless they are up spamming F5 till 3 am.



#23829 reaperztoll  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:56 PM

For sale 1 copy law breakers CE ultra rare no *ESRB*

Too much real life, not enough time for video games


#23830 csbaker-az  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:57 PM

You forgot OUT OF STOCK EVERYWHERE OMG LQQK!!!1!!! GET IT WHILE YOU CAN!!!!1

 

For sale 1 copy law breakers CE ultra rare no *ESRB*



#23831 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36176 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:41 PM

Typo...21 hours...sorry...

 

From what you said I'd say it is about right.

 

Also, didn't know you were into otome games. I played Code: Realize and might stay off the genre for a while, I do not reject the concept but "gameplay" is simply too boring.

Eh, if the story sounds interesting, I usually try to find time for it. I still haven't found an otome with a better story + protagonist combination since Code: Realize (except maybe Hakuoki), though:

 

-Amnesia: Memories had an interesting story, but I wasn't a big fan of some of the characters

-Norn9 had a weird story, odd dialogue at times (one route felt like 75% "Tch." sentences), and unlikable characters (not that I hated them, I just...didn't care about any of them)

-Period Cube had a dumb heroine and barely-interesting story

-Collar x Malice was well-written with likable characters and great artwork, but I saw a heck of a lot of translation errors and the heroine did/said dumb things sometimes


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#23832 KillScottKill  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:49 PM

My Danganronpa 3 is the LE from NISA, it says delivery for today, don't know how that will go. Might be in for a surprise when I get home. YS VIII is also LE from NISA, I opened it to fondle it.

 

You are on Ys Celceta? Game is relatively quick for non-trophy hunters? HLTB says 12 hours.

You'll probably get it. I got my DR1+2 Reload from NISA a day early.



#23833 Chrono Gear   For the Horde! CAGiversary!   5113 Posts   Joined 7.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:03 PM

Variants in general are sold in that manner, and are limited in that it is a "variant" when it was produced, sold and advertised.

I'm not going to say the ESRB won't be a selling point to someone, but I personally don't see that adding anything to an already "limited" item. Will B&C now be worth more simply because it isn't rated, when newer games will be?

Honestly, I see both sides of the equation being discussed here, but it's a "chicken & egg" argument. I don't know that anyone could ever prove the ESRB has driven up the collector's market, unless at some point games that didn't command much start to over time, but who's to say that didn't come from more consumers wanting it, and less qty being available?


That’s an awful long reply just to say, ‘yes that is a label variant’ lol

#23834 Giant_Gamer  

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:55 PM

Think about it for a second. Before now, any independently published game released for a major console could be printed out without an ESRB rating. In the case of LRG, this was the norm. It was essentially the normal scenario for anyone looking to go this route. Under those circumstances, an officially released physical copy of a game without an ESRB rating was nothing special. It was the de-facto option for a developer too small to warrant the extra expense of getting a physical ESRB rating.

 

But with this shift in policy from the major console platform holders, that door is now closed. And there will never again be officially-sanctioned physical game releases that don't have ESRB ratings. Before, LRG and their lack of ESRB ratings were little more than a curiosity. Their rarity was based only on their low print numbers. With this change, they are now going to be THE ONLY PS4 and Vita physical titles that have no ESRB ratings, and yet are still official releases. And they will hold that distinction forever.

 

For game collecting, that is going to be a big deal. Whether or not these games get reprinted is irrelevant. Just the distinction of not having an ESRB rating is now a point of scarcity in and of itself. If they do get reprinted with an ESRB rating, whether through LRG or through a different publisher, it won't diminish the scarcity and value of the initial print runs. All of these early LRG releases now have a unique selling point that sets them apart from all other potentially collectible game titles, as well as their inherent scarcity from small print runs.

I agree, and think you make good points. I too am not a re-seller, however on rare occasion in the past, have traded rare and uncommon games with other collectors. I perceive that this ESRB deal will effect the price point of every release up to this point, even if this added extra value is not really showing up right at this moment.



#23835 bojay1997   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5557 Posts   Joined 14.0 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 12:26 AM

Think about it for a second. Before now, any independently published game released for a major console could be printed out without an ESRB rating. In the case of LRG, this was the norm. It was essentially the normal scenario for anyone looking to go this route. Under those circumstances, an officially released physical copy of a game without an ESRB rating was nothing special. It was the de-facto option for a developer too small to warrant the extra expense of getting a physical ESRB rating.

 

But with this shift in policy from the major console platform holders, that door is now closed. And there will never again be officially-sanctioned physical game releases that don't have ESRB ratings. Before, LRG and their lack of ESRB ratings were little more than a curiosity. Their rarity was based only on their low print numbers. With this change, they are now going to be THE ONLY PS4 and Vita physical titles that have no ESRB ratings, and yet are still official releases. And they will hold that distinction forever.

 

For game collecting, that is going to be a big deal. Whether or not these games get reprinted is irrelevant. Just the distinction of not having an ESRB rating is now a point of scarcity in and of itself. If they do get reprinted with an ESRB rating, whether through LRG or through a different publisher, it won't diminish the scarcity and value of the initial print runs. All of these early LRG releases now have a unique selling point that sets them apart from all other potentially collectible game titles, as well as their inherent scarcity from small print runs.

How do you know the policy won't change six months or a year from now?  As others have stated, the print run of all of the titles LRG released without ESRB is not going to change over time.  They also won't be re-releasing the same titles, so while some collectors may be attracted to the lack of ESRB down the road, you may also have some collectors who hate the fact that some LRG games have ESRB and some don't.  You may also have non-US collectors who don't like ESRB rated games as part of their collection.  I personally think ESRB or lack thereof will have zero impact on collectibility for most people.     



#23836 TooPoor   ∀ Game, ∃ Buy Price CAGiversary!   11184 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:56 AM

Got my Danganronpa 3 LE Vita. Need to wait for tomorrow's Japanese audio DLC pack dang it.

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#23837 CAiNiAC   ~Baby got Backlog~ CAGiversary!   5008 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

Speculate speculate speculate speculate speculate speculate speculate blah blah blah.  This is why normal people can't buy things anymore unless they are up spamming F5 till 3 am.

 

 

Yeah, its a shame there are people out there with outrageously obsessive habits.


I just spent an hour dragging a boat up a mountain for a trophy. What have I become...

 

Now just play a really piece of shit game and then complain about it until (and well after) you get the plat.

 

 

 


#23838 WingsDJY   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3136 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 01:58 PM

If anyone missed out on Slain: Back from Hell, Signature Editions is doing another print run. This time it's a standard edition (no signature edition contents). $27.00. No release date listed.

 

https://signatureedi..._eid=478ce4a209

 

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#23839 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   2021 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:20 PM

Variants in general are sold in that manner, and are limited in that it is a "variant" when it was produced, sold and advertised.

 

I'm not going to say the ESRB won't be a selling point to someone, but I personally don't see that adding anything to an already "limited" item. Will B&C now be worth more simply because it isn't rated, when newer games will be?

 

Honestly, I see both sides of the equation being discussed here, but it's a "chicken & egg" argument. I don't know that anyone could ever prove the ESRB has driven up the collector's market, unless at some point games that didn't command much start to over time, but who's to say that didn't come from more consumers wanting it, and less qty being available?

I can't see the lack of ESRB changing anything.  The rarity of a game coupled with the lack of copies on the open market tied to people being willing to pay a higher price for them plus sellers being brave enough to keep prices high until the games sell... that's what will determine the market for these things.

 

The only effect i can see the games with the ESRB having is that they will appear more legit and that may attract a few people in that opted out of the LRG games because they weren't fully retail ready games.  Retail games have ESRB ratings and a registered barcodes.

 

Before anyone says "all the games have barcodes", they are all also forged from some Utah company called "On The Rocks, Inc." and LRG also overlapped barcodes between a few games (look at Drive Drive Drive and the Shantae games).   Unlike say Root Letter which it's barcode is legit registered to Pqube Ltd. and Soul Sacrifice is registered to Sony Computer Entertainment of America.  LRG doesn't appear to have ANY legit registered barcodes on their game releases unless they are secretly owned by On the Rocks, inc. or have partnered with them.

 

You can look barcodes up here to get the company info: https://www.gs1us.or...-database-gepir

You can use the R1 Directory Tweeg put together for barcode info: http://www.tweeg.pso...1_Directory.pdf

 

Just keep in mind you can't easily copy from the R1 directory... but typing the codes in isn't a that hard once you look something up.

 

Also none of this stops the games from being legit since sony manufactured them and approved the games.  But they just haven't been legit retail ready releases until this first batch goes out... and even then they will probably still use forged barcodes on the back.  None of that though will change them from being super low printed games that have value mostly based on purposefully limited availability.


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#23840 KillScottKill  

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:42 PM

Got my email last night saying Undertale standard is about to ship. Came with the PS4 dynamic theme code.

#23841 Josef   Touched the dead CAGiversary!   10616 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:50 PM

Heads up: The Tokyo Tattoo Girls LE on the NISA website is now under 10% stock left.   Only $39.99 (you will need another item to push it over $75 for free shipping though).



#23842 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5304 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 03:09 PM

Heads up: The Tokyo Tattoo Girls LE on the NISA website is now under 10% stock left.   Only $39.99 (you will need another item to push it over $75 for free shipping though).

Yeah, I grabbed this and Demon Gaze II last week for the free shipping, and hopefully they push one or both back a good clip. This month has been insane for Vita releases, and my wallet is on life support. LOL



#23843 Josef   Touched the dead CAGiversary!   10616 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 03:10 PM

Yeah, I grabbed this and Demon Gaze II last week for the free shipping, and hopefully they push one or both back a good clip. This month has been insane for Vita releases, and my wallet is on life support. LOL

Looks like both currently have a release date of 11/14, so you have a little time before you get charged ;)



#23844 TooPoor   ∀ Game, ∃ Buy Price CAGiversary!   11184 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:47 PM

No Ys Origins?

Will get that on digital. Not that I like digital: I force myself to not touch LRG, simply because financials won't allow me to go down that rabbit hole. So sad.


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#23845 erehwon   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3105 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:55 PM

Have any of you heard about the SD card adapter for the vita that replaces the 3G modem of the original vitas?  They are selling them on aliexpress.  I'm thinking about picking one up, but was wondering if you guys had heard of this site and if it was safe?



#23846 nitrosmob   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   8029 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:08 PM

Pretty sure the site is legit. Good luck if you want to do this hack though.



#23847 KillScottKill  

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:50 PM

So I go to pick up my pre-order of Danganronpa V3 at GameStop (trade credit bay-beee) and.... They've lost it. 

 

After about 10 minutes of searching, the manager concludes that my copy was accidentally gutted and placed on the show floor. And it was filed as a DS game in the system somehow. Unbelievable. Now I have my own GS horror story. Got a whole $4 discount for the trouble. 

 

Pains me that GameStop is the only place I see physical Vita games in person anymore.



#23848 GameOverGreggy   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1004 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:53 PM

I'd like to support Gamestop more with their Vita games, but the day I buy a new game that is unsealed is the day hell freezes over.



#23849 Chrono Gear   For the Horde! CAGiversary!   5113 Posts   Joined 7.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:59 PM

Have any of you heard about the SD card adapter for the vita that replaces the 3G modem of the original vitas? They are selling them on aliexpress. I'm thinking about picking one up, but was wondering if you guys had heard of this site and if it was safe?


Aliexpress is legit, but think of it like Amazon. I’ve not had any issues with the components I’ve bought there but I can’t vouch for every seller in the market. This sounds really cool but I don’t really want to physically mod my OG Vita. I have a 64GB card that’s been full for years though...

#23850 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   5304 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:17 PM

Aliexpress is legit, but think of it like Amazon. I’ve not had any issues with the components I’ve bought there but I can’t vouch for every seller in the market. This sounds really cool but I don’t really want to physically mod my OG Vita. I have a 64GB card that’s been full for years though...

If I ever went the modded route, this would be a must, but my 1000 is long gone, and it's doubtful I'll be getting another anytime soon. But I've had my eye on this since it was first shown, as my 64GB card has been full since forever ago as well. LRG is the only thing helping me keep even a little space open now and again, as I'm able to delete any of my digital versions of the games they offer.