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CAGcast #359: Prepare for Wingfall


#1 CheapyD   Head Cheap Ass Administrators   17751 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:52 AM

The crew has more thoughts on Titanfall, Sony VR Project Morpheus, Walmart used games, and much more!

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#2 thorbahn3   Everyone talks too much! Super Moderators   4208 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:08 AM

Why didn't Wombat download Outlast, Contrast, ResoGun, etc? You can claim PS+ games without actually owning a PS4 on Sony's digital store website.



#3 Thevoiceinyourhead   UKCAG CAGiversary!   85 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

Thevoiceinyourhead

Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:22 AM

Thank you for the show guys!



#4 Wombat   CAGcast or nothin CAGiversary!   2365 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:17 AM

Why didn't Wombat download Outlast, Contrast, ResoGun, etc? You can claim PS+ games without actually owning a PS4 on Sony's digital store website.


I didn't even think of it. I was still able to get resogun though. No outlast or contrast for me.

#5 BetaDemo   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   261 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

BetaDemo

Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:13 PM

Thanks for the show fellas!  This'll give me something to listen to to block out all thoughts and feelings about the NCAA tourney after yesterday's pitiful performances by Ohio State and UC.  Thank goodness that Major League Baseball's 2014 season starts tomorrow.  

 

@Wombat 

 

Even easier; you can "purchase" all the PS+ stuff (for ps3/ps4/psvita) via the Playstation app on your smartphone.

 

BTW: Contrast is horrible but Outlast is actually worth buying at retail price.   



#6 skadave   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   207 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:34 PM

So what I got out of the podcast is that we should all send Wombat butt plugs? Is this a correct assumption?

 



#7 szeuner  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:52 PM

Wombat thinks Titanfall is Tomb raider.  O:)



#8 LiK   Internet Superstar CAGiversary!   2303 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:21 PM

Oh snap, Shipwreck shit story.

Also, Wombat was thinking of Gran Turismo HD Concept.

#9 bcrt2000   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   12 Posts   Joined 9.1 Years Ago  

bcrt2000

Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:33 PM

shipwreck (I see you reading this right now)-- you and the other hosts are so wrong about Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. You're mainly parroting uninformed opinions on it by other people who haven't played the game.

 

I think you and Cheapy need to put your money where your mouth is (or "Play this bitches!") and put down $30 and play it on PS4, and then come back next week with your opinions on it.

 

In terms of my experience-- the main mission was about 2.5 hours long. This whole 1 hour thing is ridiculous. Maybe it was a little longer for me because I turned off Tagging and Reflex mode immediately in the options because that's not really what I want from my Metal Gear experience-- so it was probably a little harder for me to get through. My clear time said 112 minutes, but that doesn't include the 30 or so minutes that I played and died before hitting the next checkpoint in various spots nor does it include the 10 minute intro or the 10 minute outro sequences.

 

The whole thing about this being an FMV was also ridiculous-- as I mentioned there's an intro and a couple of outro cutscenes and that's it. This game is 95% gameplay. After you beat the Ground Zeroes mission you unlock 4 extra missions, and there's an additional 1 secret mission you get access to (on PS3/4 it's the MGS1 Deja Vu mission) by collecting the 9 XOF patches scattered around the map.

 

I've played 2 of the extra missions, and while they are on the same map, they are definitely different than the main mission. One of them is a pretty fun mission where you're in a helicopter chase and then get on the ground where a boss fight sort of ensues (something which isn't even in the Ground Zeroes mission). I spent close to 90 minutes playing through both of these missions.

 

The map is pretty dense, there's a lot of stuff to do which is why it's great to have multiple things to do on it through the different missions.

 

And most importantly, the gameplay mechanics are GREAT and the way this game is structured gives you a chance to experiment with the mechanics to the fullest and have a lot of fun playing around with the AI. I know if I was just dropped into Phantom Pain without a prologue like this I probably wouldn't let myself experiment with the mechanics so much and see what the different play styles I could use.

 

There's at least 4 solid hours of gameplay here, even going through it on normal difficulty, and only once through. And if going through it again in harder difficulties or experimenting with the sandbox appeals to you, then there's even more here.

 

edit: also reason why people can speed run the main mission in like 10 minutes is because once you know how to beat the game you don't have to go through the process of exploring the map to figure out what to do. You're not going to do that first time around.



#10 TVs Mr. Neil   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   3 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

TVs Mr. Neil

Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:53 PM

Hey, Cheapy and the gang.  Next episode is #360.  You've come all the way around.  Or your podcast has become a video game console.  One of the two.



#11 bickle   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   815 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:22 PM

The 360 Simpsons game was good and had the same sense of humor as the series.

#12 bickle   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   815 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:24 PM

CAG 359

5:15 Wombat in Jamaica
12:00 Show Feedback
13:15 - Taiko Drum Master
14:45 Watch This: Frozen
16:15 - Free to Play (Valve documentary)
18:30 New Release
18:45 - Metal Gear Solid 5 Ground Zero
23:30 - Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z
24:30 - Luftrausers
27:45 Wombat's PS4 story
32:00 Ship - 3DO and 32x
35:00 - Infamous Second Son
40:15 Titanfall
55:30 PvZ Garden Warfare
58:30 Sony VR
1:06:00 The Witch and the Hundred Knight
1:10:00 Walmart taking trade-ins
1:12:15 Cagback
1:12:15 - Simpsons/Family Guy games
1:14:15 - Amazon Prime price hike

#13 Curufinwe   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1059 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:40 PM

I thought the guys were overly harsh on Ground Zeroes.  I don't think there's anything wrong with it expect that it's $10 overpriced.  I'm not a huge Metal Gear fan and don't own a new console, so there's no way I'm paying $30 for the PS3 or 360 version.  But later this year when I have a PS4 I might grab it for around $15.  The Giant Bomb Quick Look made it seem like a lot of fun.

 

Titanfall must be a real mess on Cheapy's PC if it runs less smoothly than the Xbox One version which tears and drops frames all over the place.

 

Titanfall_sub20fps_drops.png



#14 FAMOUSLASTWORDS   WTC7lookitup CAGiversary!   29 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

FAMOUSLASTWORDS

Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:55 PM

On today's CAGcast Wombat wants to get neutered. In my opinion snipping is reserved for animals and stupid people, basically shit that you don't want reproducing. But Wombat is an animal, soo... Plus I hear that your balls fockin hurt after. What if they fock up and cut your dick off, what if future Mrs. Wombat #2 wants kids? Hmmm, have you ever thought of that? I also enjoyed  how Wombat pretended  to be clueless how VR works.  Wombat and every male CAG is getting VR. Why you ask? Because of the games but primarily because of porn.  3D VR PORN, enough said.  And that's what the Oculus Rift has over Sony, and also a cooler name.  Good show guys, and thank you to Wombat's secret big tipper. I really want to know what Wombat thinks of his PS4 vs XBONE? Btw Wombat deserves the PS4 cause he seems like a good guy who really needs to smoke some weed. Quick somebody send him a bag of weed. 



#15 Stryffe2004   Overlord of the Obvious CAGiversary!   1090 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Stryffe2004

Posted 21 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

Wombat if I remember right, you were a fan of Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.  If so, you need to download Warframe on the PS4.  It has a weird art style, but plays like a more fleshed out version of ME 3 multiplayer.  It's four player co-op but you aren't limited to horde style modes.  There are assassinations, exterminations, sabotage, etc. in addition to the horde type (defense) modes.  There are factions similar to ME - Grineer (Cerberus), Corpus (Geth) and Infested (Reapers).  If you have the same OCD loot hoarding gene I have, you may be hooked

 

It's free to play so you really have nothing to lose.  Most of the stuff you can get just by playing the game and putting some time in.  PS+ members even get a special bonus pack.



#16 koheed  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 04:42 PM

OH!! "Dog-fighting." For about a minute there I was worried Michael Vick put out a video game.

#17 Sgt Barone   CAG since 2008 CAGiversary!   2033 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

Sgt Barone

Posted 21 March 2014 - 04:46 PM

Awesome show.  Great diarrhea story, Ship. 



#18 koheed  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:21 PM

Wombat, I'm with you in Titanfall in that I have a hard time distinguishing between teammates and opponents. I usually have to look at the color of the dot on my mini-map.



#19 guardian_owl   Keeper of the CAG Shrine CAGiversary!   11155 Posts   Joined 15.1 Years Ago  

guardian_owl

Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:44 PM

Frozen is pretty good, it's my second favorite musical called Frozen.

 

Metal Gear would of gotten less shit if it priced it closer to the other standalone expansions like Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon and Infamous: Festival of Blood. $15 for PS3 and maybe a $5 premium for next gen. $20. Ratchet & Clank: Into the Nexus (a smaller in scope R&C game) was also MSRP of $30, but you could get it pretty easily for $20 at release from multiple outlets, perhaps they should of gone that route.



#20 Digital Bees   Streets Ahead CAGiversary!   221 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Digital Bees

Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:37 PM

I don't understand why Wombat thinks Titanfall "doesn't have legs" to stick around for a while. Games like this usually have people playing for a long time. Recently I have seen at least over 100,000 people still playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II. Not the newest game Ghosts, the previous one. People play these games for a long time and this will be no different.

 

Also...I don't know if I agree with Cheapy's advice to you Wombat. If you are going to use a shotgun...you better make sure you get close to your opponents. Shotguns are not good at long range fire fights. And if you just play attrition, maybe just focus on killing grunts and spectres since they count towards the score as well and will help you get your titan faster.



#21 jinboy   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   30 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:35 PM

@wombat i understand what you're saying about the maps, feeling like they're large. that quickly changes with experience, once you play the game more the maps actually begin to feel much smaller due to familiarization and memorization. 

 

also its very easy to find grunts once you equip the 'minion detector' perk which shows all grunts/spectres on the minimap (unlocks very early). if you use the smart pistol you can dispatch them very fast. I think the smart pistol is really awesome because it allows people who arent as good at twitch shooters to contribute to their team in a very impactful way.



#22 jinboy   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   30 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:41 PM

I thought the guys were overly harsh on Ground Zeroes.  I don't think there's anything wrong with it expect that it's $10 overpriced.  I'm not a huge Metal Gear fan and don't own a new console, so there's no way I'm paying $30 for the PS3 or 360 version.  But later this year when I have a PS4 I might grab it for around $15.  The Giant Bomb Quick Look made it seem like a lot of fun.

 

Titanfall must be a real mess on Cheapy's PC if it runs less smoothly than the Xbox One version which tears and drops frames all over the place.

 

Titanfall_sub20fps_drops.png

lower frame drops are more common during titan usage. however titan battles are much slower compared to pilot combat so yes its not great but its not going to hurt as much as you'd think. even cod on consoles frequently dropped frames as well especially on ps3 but people still bought it and enjoyed it.



#23 csx009   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   18 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:52 PM

Spending 20 minutes jumping between shipping containers in a remote corner of the map then complaining there's no open world or people around to kill. Sounds like a Polygon review.

 

Maybe Wombat bought that Jamaica weed after all..



#24 metalmat   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   57 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

metalmat

Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:56 PM

Are they just giving Wombat a hard time or is he really that bad at first person shooters?



#25 aclayton   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   48 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:58 PM

Cheapy and Wombat (and any other male out there who has reached their kid limit), definitely go get the vasectomy.  These days the technique uses only tiny incisions, takes less than an hour, and in my case leaves no pain, just a little discomfort for a day or two. 

 

Honestly, leaving alone the obvious sensation benefits, the peace of mind from erasing any concern about a surprise makes it all unquestionably worth it.  Now I wonder why I waited so long.

 

Get the snip!



#26 actripxl   BITW! CAGiversary!   238 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

actripxl

Posted 22 March 2014 - 12:56 AM

1.  The Xbox One version of Titanfall drops frame rates all the time and very noticeable, I find it hard to believe that the PC version is worse.

2.  It is somewhat difficult to notice the opposing team in the beginning but I don't seem to have that problem anymore.

3.  Titanfall doesn't have much legs for me but I will definitely get Titanfall 2 on the PS4 when they fix things like story, customization options, hopefully unique looking titans for each group, and a solid frame rate.



#27 codenamelenny   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   200 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

codenamelenny

Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:23 AM

So what I got out of the podcast is that we should all send Wombat butt plugs? Is this a correct assumption?

Best part about this post, Wombat liked it.



#28 x2k-one   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   46 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:29 AM

this episode reminded me of this prank call.




#29 x2k-one   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   46 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:42 AM

the frik did i just listen to in the beginning and end?



#30 Sashka   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   119 Posts   Joined 9.8 Years Ago  

Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:08 AM

It was interesting to hear Cheapy's thoughts on the Free To Play documentary, since his perspective was that of someone who doesn't and has never played a DOTA game.

 

The documentary was about the first International, and the most recent one was held in August, The International 3, with an almost $3mil prize pool! And the Grand Finals were absolutely insane. Here's a 4 minute clip of the last minutes and the awards ceremony, it shows both teams in their booths and their reactions. One of the teams is actually Na'Vi, who won the first TI, and you'll recognize Dendi.

 

 

Anyway, this year Valve wants to hold the event at the Basketball stadum celtics used to play, which seats around 20k people.

 

Thanks for the great cast, guys, as always.