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#2371 neb9  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:55 PM

i own it, so here is my judgement, there is a difference between innovation and gimmicks. seriously, blowing into the mic, wtf, id hate to see where that leads to in the future. also its not really new, since the DS also had that feature. the only useful thing is the dual screen which has already been bested with the vita on sony and smartglass for xbox.

But the Vita + PS4 isn't really dual screen play. It's remote play. And it's $600 compared to $300 for the Wii U.

#2372 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7291 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 04:42 PM

i own it, so here is my judgement, there is a difference between innovation and gimmicks. seriously, blowing into the mic, wtf, id hate to see where that leads to in the future. also its not really new, since the DS also had that feature. the only useful thing is the dual screen which has already been bested with the vita on sony and smartglass for xbox.

It really depends on how you view the tech. The WiiU doesn't  actually see (through the camera) that you are blowing. The mic hears you blowing and that is how it reacts. In Super Mario 3D World, if you blow into the mic you''ll get coins and hidden secrets in the world. Using it to move the platforms is great too.

 

I admit, at first it seemed out there until I was actually using it than it made sense and was innovated. But its really how each individual person views it.

 

And you obviously don't own a Vita or a WiiU if you think the Vita is doing dual screen (which it isnt, Remote Play is not dual screen gameplay) better than the WiiU. The WiiU is seemless and actually uses each screen independently from each other. Not just mirroring games but using each screen as it's own gameplay mechanic.

 

Yoshis Fruit Cart in Nintendo Land is a great example. The fruit is on the TV but not on the gamepad. You have to move Yoshi on the gamepad by drawing where he goes to get the fruit. You use the patterns on both screens to direct where Yoshi goes. In later levels the gamepad gets fewer resources to know where to go. 

That right there is innovated in how we play games. I'm loving it right now and wish there were more games (puzzle) that do it. Hopefully Nintendo Land can show what we'll see in Mario Party WiiU.



#2373 FlyingMonkey9   Genetically Modified CAG CAGiversary!   4269 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:19 PM

I wish vita remote play was like wii u. Even a few feet from my router and pa4 there's too much input lag

#2374 EldritchOnRye   Flim Flam Argle Bargle CAGiversary!   36695 Posts   Joined 18.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:37 PM

I wish vita remote play was like wii u. Even a few feet from my router and pa4 there's too much input lag

 

See I wish WiiU was like Vita remote play.  I want to be able to take the gamepad to bed with me but I got more than 8-10 feet from the system and it loses all signal.



#2375 equistina  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:38 PM

See I wish WiiU was like Vita remote play. I want to be able to take the gamepad to bed with me but I got more than 8-10 feet from the system and it loses all signal.


Really?

I can play on the pad from my bedroom no issue :0

#2376 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7291 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:50 PM

See I wish WiiU was like Vita remote play.  I want to be able to take the gamepad to bed with me but I got more than 8-10 feet from the system and it loses all signal.

Are you sure? I can take my gamepad outside and still play it.



#2377 4thHorseman   The New God CAGiversary!   2469 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:56 PM

I can echo Eldritch. I have far better remote play with my vita than my Wii U. Doesnt even lag, it flat out wont play when i go into my bedroom (about 10 ft away)

#2378 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7291 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:59 PM

Weird, sounds like you guys have some interference. Which could be something bluetooth, usb wireless adapter, microwave, etc. But no, dual screen action on the WiiU for me is seamless and greatly accurate. 



#2379 Jobu2Packy   Childish CAGbino CAGiversary!   1336 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 06:23 PM

Weird, sounds like you guys have some interference. Which could be something bluetooth, usb wireless adapter, microwave, etc. But no, dual screen action on the WiiU for me is seamless and greatly accurate. 

Ditto. I play Mario Kart on it and never miss a beat. Actually prefer it to the TV screen.



#2380 ritchardf  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:34 PM

It really depends on how you view the tech. The WiiU doesn't  actually see (through the camera) that you are blowing. The mic hears you blowing and that is how it reacts. In Super Mario 3D World, if you blow into the mic you''ll get coins and hidden secrets in the world. Using it to move the platforms is great too.

 

I admit, at first it seemed out there until I was actually using it than it made sense and was innovated. But its really how each individual person views it.

 

And you obviously don't own a Vita or a WiiU if you think the Vita is doing dual screen (which it isnt, Remote Play is not dual screen gameplay) better than the WiiU. The WiiU is seemless and actually uses each screen independently from each other. Not just mirroring games but using each screen as it's own gameplay mechanic.

 

Yoshis Fruit Cart in Nintendo Land is a great example. The fruit is on the TV but not on the gamepad. You have to move Yoshi on the gamepad by drawing where he goes to get the fruit. You use the patterns on both screens to direct where Yoshi goes. In later levels the gamepad gets fewer resources to know where to go. 

That right there is innovated in how we play games. I'm loving it right now and wish there were more games (puzzle) that do it. Hopefully Nintendo Land can show what we'll see in Mario Party WiiU.

ok, so you have had a different experience, since ive had no interest in nintendoland or will i have any in mario party. if something is only utilized in party games, its a gimmick. id love to see this better implemented, its just not being done. ive heard some good ideas with the division, even controlling a drone with a tablet. but right now its mostly the same, an option to play the game off the tv, that is how i compare it until something that interests me comes around. just my opinion, im sure its a great feature for couch multiplayer games, i just dont play those.



#2381 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   40133 Posts   Joined 19.1 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:38 PM

Wii U gamepad range is about 10 feet for me as well.

 

And there is no interference. 



#2382 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7291 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:42 PM

ok, so you have had a different experience, since ive had no interest in nintendoland or will i have any in mario party. if something is only utilized in party games, its a gimmick. id love to see this better implemented, its just not being done. ive heard some good ideas with the division, even controlling a drone with a tablet. but right now its mostly the same, an option to play the game off the tv, that is how i compare it until something that interests me comes around. just my opinion, im sure its a great feature for couch multiplayer games, i just dont play those.

Do you hear yourself? The mechanics are used in other games, not just party games which there is only 1 party game on the WiiU; Nintendo Land. Pikman 3 uses drawing on the map to move to different locations, 3D World uses the blowing mechanic to move platforms as well as find coins, Mario Kart 8 can use the gyrosensor to control cars. Many other games use these features and luckily not as a selling point but as small touches to games. Notice how all these features are used in single player (apart from Mario KArt 8 which can be used for both).

 

You should really look what other games are doing with it. All the games I've played use it as a independent device for games, not as a mirrored screen.

 

But yeah, just opinions. I own and played multitude of games so far and now see how much these additions to the gamepad do extend what we can do in games far beyond what the Vita does by just mirroring the screen.



#2383 RBK  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:17 PM

If I can get a Wii U for $150 or less, I'm jumping on it ASAP.

Perfect compliment system.



#2384 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   40133 Posts   Joined 19.1 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:22 PM

I can't think of a Wii U game I've played where I thought the gimmicky features of the gamepad improved the game. It's always been the opposite.

 

Seeing a map on it is nice though.



#2385 Olengie   Your Waifu is Kuso. Except Mine CAGiversary!   11873 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:25 PM

Nice. My Command and Conquer 3 arrived and it's pretty minty. Only played Kane's Wrath and Red Alert 3. Time to play it. 



#2386 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7291 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:12 PM

I can't think of a Wii U game I've played where I thought the gimmicky features of the gamepad improved the game. It's always been the opposite.

 

Seeing a map on it is nice though.

I didn't say it improved the game, I'm saying the features added that I've played added something new and exciting to these games. When I was talking about the map, in Pikman 3 you can draw on the map and it moves your characters there. You can than look around the playing field to monitor your Pikman and change what they do based on where they are. All the while your character is moving to the base (though you can move him elsewhere).

 

But I know I can't tell people the WiiU is great b/c of the hate behind it (thinking it's last gen, little 3rd party support, lack of games though it's still new), which I can't blame them for. Once you (not you whoknows) own one and play a good amount of games, you'll see. Hopefully not playing it w/ some premade hatred.



#2387 Lulgasms   Resident Xbone hater CAGiversary!   1021 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:53 PM

Blowing into mic best feature since kinect

#2388 RubMySweatyThighsPls  

RubMySweatyThighsPls

Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:08 PM

Blowing into mic best feature since kinect

Thats the only blowing he going to get  :D/



#2389 ElMexiMerican  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:28 PM

I've never purchased anything through AWD before, so I was just wondering if anyone knew if there was a difference between a product being marked as LN without any description, and one being marked as LN with a description saying that the packaging may be damaged? 

 

EDIT: Nvm, apparently they were just new listings so it took a minute for the descriptions to appear.



#2390 arsenalcrazy8   As Cheap As Wenger. CAGiversary!   2532 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:40 PM

PS3 Saints Row 3 CE (the one with headphones) 7.xx

http://www.amazon.co...&condition=used



#2391 ElMexiMerican  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:46 PM

Also, while not related to gaming, AWD just got a huge amount of Pebble watch's in for anyone interested.

 

Pebble (Black): G-90.59 VG-96.25 LN-101.91 

http://www.amazon.co...ipPromoFilter=1

 

Pebble (Red): VG-99.84 LN-102.04

http://www.amazon.co...ipPromoFilter=1

 

Pebble (White): VG-135.13 LN-138.10

http://www.amazon.co...ipPromoFilter=1



#2392 kickrockz713   Say it again CAGiversary!   10675 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:47 PM

PS3 Saints Row 3 CE (the one with headphones) 7.xx

http://www.amazon.co...&condition=used

Thanks grabbed a vg one that sounded like a dinger



#2393 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   7291 Posts   Joined 15.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:48 PM

Thats the only blowing he going to get  :D/

I'll give you that  :lol:



#2394 DesertLeo   DontReadThis. CAGiversary!   2638 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:54 PM

Grabbed an acceptable SR3, why not

#2395 Lulgasms   Resident Xbone hater CAGiversary!   1021 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:06 PM

whoops



#2396 Lulgasms   Resident Xbone hater CAGiversary!   1021 Posts   Joined 16.2 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:07 PM

I'll give you that  :lol:

Lol as a skinny dude with k pop link and a pokemon avatar I bet you are reeeel popular with the ladies XD... and no not the ones you drug and invite to your 4chan party van.



#2397 kickrockz713   Say it again CAGiversary!   10675 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:10 PM

Lol as a skinny dude with k pop link and a pokemon avatar I bet you are reeeel popular with the ladies XD... and no not the ones you drug and invite to your 4chan party van.

Well shit,  :twoguns:



#2398 DaShaka   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2241 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:13 PM

what's the good disk drive to have in an original 360? Have a few and am giving a few away but want to keep the one that hopefully won't RROD for a while....

#2399 dreamer131313  

dreamer131313

Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:16 PM

what's the good disk drive to have in an original 360? Have a few and am giving a few away but want to keep the one that hopefully won't RROD for a while....

jasper

#2400 RBK  

Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:16 PM

Where are the deals?

Majority of the stuff I'm looking at can be found for lower prices on the regular Amazon site from third-party sellers.