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#2521 Cage017   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4781 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2015 - 09:18 PM

This will blow over. They've done quick decision stuff like this before with CM Punk and Emma so it's only a matter of time before Hogan returns to WWE.

 

I'm wondering if Hogan would still be in trouble if he said the same comments but without the use of the n-word.

 

Also, as Booker T explains, this isn't the first time Hogan has said that word:

 



#2522 bardockkun   Porn, Kitsch And Firearms CAGiversary!   12973 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

bardockkun

Posted 24 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

Is it wrong with all the hub bub of WWE casting Hogan as far away from them as possible I went with worst case logical scenario (at least logical in my head), which is him dating his daughter? I Am...relieved? I Think? I...Don't know.



#2523 KaneRobot   The Profit$ of Doom CAGiversary!   10498 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:49 PM

This will blow over. They've done quick decision stuff like this before with CM Punk and Emma so it's only a matter of time before Hogan returns to WWE.

 

What did they do with Punk? I remember that video of him calling that fan a fag or whatever but did they actually do anything (suspension, etc?) Only thing I remember him being forced to apologize for was telling that guy to kill himself on Twitter.



#2524 mitch079   Don't be a moron! CAGiversary!   12700 Posts   Joined 14.2 Years Ago  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 12:28 AM

What did they do with Punk? I remember that video of him calling that fan a fag or whatever but did they actually do anything (suspension, etc?) Only thing I remember him being forced to apologize for was telling that guy to kill himself on Twitter.

Nothing.  http://www.cagesides...ment-of-cm-punk



#2525 tonyvx  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:41 AM

Breaking news: Old white guy says some stupid  Fuck
UPDATE: Sky is blue



#2526 kickrockz713   Say it again CAGiversary!   10674 Posts   Joined 6.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:43 AM

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:lol:



#2527 pitfallharry219  

pitfallharry219

Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:05 PM

That Vince video is currently the top story on TMZ.


But a WWE rep says everyone recognizes the 2005 segment "was an outlandish and satirical skit involving fictional characters, similar to that of many scripted television shows and movies.”


#2528 M-10  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

There is a bit of a double standard going on here. Hogan gets erased from history because of some stupid shit he said in a recording years ago<basically the guy got Sterlinged.> However, Prime Time PLayers and Mark Henry put out a short video of them being pulled over by highway patrol that included stereotypical and racially charged comments, people just have a small laugh and go on about their day.

 

How the hell did we get to this point as a society?

Dont say that, youll get mykevermin to block you :O

 

A lot of the rant seems to be more Hogan jealous that Brooke is dating someone OTHER THAN HIM.

 

WWE did the right thing to fire him (actually Hogan quit) but to treat him like Benoit is absolutely ridiculous. Saying something stupid in a private conversation years ago is no where near the same as killing your family.If they are going to go the route of making everyone in WWE who ever did anything racist vanish than there wont be much left. Piper wearing half black paint to mock Bad News Brown, DX all appearing in black face to mock the Nation, the entire WWE for making Kamala get changed in bathrooms and closets, HHH entire racist pre Mania build against Booker T.

 

Fire Hogan, dont try to erase him from history like Benoit. This over sensitive society needs to grow up and stop making everything out to be worse than it is.



#2529 pitfallharry219  

pitfallharry219

Posted 25 July 2015 - 03:32 PM

Axel is apparently doing a Billy Kidman gimmick now.

 

Spoiler

 

Spoilered because pic is huge.



#2530 Matt Young   Follow the buzzards CAGiversary!   15183 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 04:28 PM

It was a house show and Axel wouldn't have had time to get new gear. I'm sure he will go back to normal tights Monday... when they tape Superstars.

#2531 pitfallharry219  

pitfallharry219

Posted 25 July 2015 - 05:44 PM

It was a house show and Axel wouldn't have had time to get new gear. I'm sure he will go back to normal tights Monday... when they tape Superstars.

...it was a joke.

 

Not a shocker, but Hogan is out of WWE 2K16. I bet they're glad the Hulkamania edition wasn't planned for this year.



#2532 Rigor Mortis  

Rigor Mortis

Posted 25 July 2015 - 05:52 PM

...it was a joke.

 

Not a shocker, but Hogan is out of WWE 2K16. I bet they're glad the Hulkamania edition wasn't planned for this year.

Damn. How will they make up for that loss of revenue? They had a potential gold mine with the white sheet attire DLC for Hogan...



#2533 Not Eric   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2413 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 06:08 PM

I'll just link this so the timestamp works....



#2534 Matt Young   Follow the buzzards CAGiversary!   15183 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 06:27 PM

...it was a joke.

Not a shocker, but Hogan is out of WWE 2K16. I bet they're glad the Hulkamania edition wasn't planned for this year.


Speaking of... I did this earlier:

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#2535 Rigor Mortis  

Rigor Mortis

Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:49 PM

OMG!! What on earth is Hull Cogan doing in the Amped Ring? 

 

Spoiler

 

 



#2536 Demolition Man   REV-OH-LU-TION! CAGiversary!   14855 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Demolition Man

Posted 25 July 2015 - 09:45 PM

You asked to be quoted, so I did. 

 

We all know that this means Hogan is going to be showing up at the Impact Zone in a month to promote his new TNA Hogan DVD and start a feud with Bram.

Except TNA has pulled all their Hogan merch and removed him from their site as well.... not that it matters since TNA is gone soon enough anyways.



#2537 Matt Young   Follow the buzzards CAGiversary!   15183 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:00 PM

Except TNA has pulled all their Hogan merch and removed him from their site as well.... not that it matters since TNA is gone soon enough anyways.


Man, this is the first time I've seen in post from you in ages. Hello.

#2538 Cage017   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   4781 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:10 PM

What did they do with Punk? I remember that video of him calling that fan a fag or whatever but did they actually do anything (suspension, etc?) Only thing I remember him being forced to apologize for was telling that guy to kill himself on Twitter.

I was thinking more of the lines of the website removing his name and merchandise, then later putting it back at a discount.

 

And in response to the news of Hogan being erased from history:

 

 

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#2539 Matt Young   Follow the buzzards CAGiversary!   15183 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:24 PM

I just found out that I'll be attending the WWE house show in San Diego on Friday.

#2540 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3649 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:37 PM

I wonder who will be replacing Hulk Hogan on Tough Enough...

I kind of hope it's Sting just to get him on WWE TV again, but it will probably be Rick Flair. 



#2541 tangytangerine   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3877 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:16 PM

I wonder who will be replacing Hulk Hogan on Tough Enough...

I kind of hope it's Sting just to get him on WWE TV again, but it will probably be Rick Flair. 

If it is Flair, just hope it doesn't go like TNA's Gut Check did.  Where they had to sign a guy because he changed his vote.



#2542 ThunderChunky62   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   978 Posts   Joined 7.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 12:19 AM

I wonder who will be replacing Hulk Hogan on Tough Enough...
I kind of hope it's Sting just to get him on WWE TV again, but it will probably be Rick Flair.

Might actually be Bret Hart

#2543 Sigma   King of Strong Style CAGiversary!   3568 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 27 July 2015 - 01:13 PM

Might actually be Bret Hart

That's what I heard too and that's a disappointment, Bret Hart was great inside the ring, but was always lacking on the mic and has been terrible in every non-wrestling role he has ever been given.

 

I hope they go with Ric Flair over Hart, but either way Tough Enough lost my interest last week when Patrick was cut from the show and my interest was already low for the show to begin with.  



#2544 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 27 July 2015 - 01:22 PM

Y'all watch Tough Enough?

 

Dang, you're bigger fans than I am.



#2545 pitfallharry219  

pitfallharry219

Posted 27 July 2015 - 01:28 PM

I don't watch it, but I know about Patrick because I've seen a lot of people talk about him. He seems to be pretty polarizing. I read where Foley said he was done watching TE because Patrick got sent home. He said it was too obvious it was a popularity contest and the winner wouldn't be the best for the job.



#2546 Matt Young   Follow the buzzards CAGiversary!   15183 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:13 PM

Play as Arnold Schwarzenegger's Terminator in WWE 2K16

http://www.ign.com/a...or-in-wwe-2k16?

#2547 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 27 July 2015 - 02:59 PM

I don't watch it, but I know about Patrick because I've seen a lot of people talk about him. He seems to be pretty polarizing. I read where Foley said he was done watching TE because Patrick got sent home. He said it was too obvious it was a popularity contest and the winner wouldn't be the best for the job.

I've done a LOT of driving the last few weeks, and listened to a lot of podcasts. I'm a big fan of the MLW radio podcasts, even when I tend to roll my eyes a lot (esp. at Konnan, or somehow Disco Inferno turning a blog on what a piece of shit MMA fighter War Machine is into a treatise on golddigging fans who live to be offended - some kind of inane anti-SJW rant). A few things the guys on those shows have pointed out in the last few weeks w/r/t Tough Enough:

 

1) the current incarnation is boring as Fuck

2) the eventual winner will have hellfire level heat in the NXT locker room, having a $250K contract off the bat

3) outside of Johnny Mundo and Miz, nobody on that show ever amounted to shit



#2548 Chase   imo CAGiversary!   7655 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:00 PM

I've done a LOT of driving the last few weeks, and listened to a lot of podcasts. I'm a big fan of the MLW radio podcasts, even when I tend to roll my eyes a lot (esp. at Konnan, or somehow Disco Inferno turning a blog on what a piece of shit MMA fighter War Machine is into a treatise on golddigging fans who live to be offended - some kind of inane anti-SJW rant). A few things the guys on those shows have pointed out in the last few weeks w/r/t Tough Enough:

 

1) the current incarnation is boring as Fuck

2) the eventual winner will have hellfire level heat in the NXT locker room, having a $250K contract off the bat

3) outside of Johnny Mundo and Miz, nobody on that show ever amounted to shit

Ryback is pretty successful. ;)

Ivelisse has done well for herself. Kenny King, Matt Morgan, Josh Matthews, and Jackie Gayda were also featured on the show. 

Miz has come a long way and deserves all the credit in the world.



#2549 M-10  

Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:14 PM

Ryback is pretty successful. ;)

Ivelisse has done well for herself. Kenny King, Matt Morgan, Josh Matthews, and Jackie Gayda were also featured on the show. 

Miz has come a long way and deserves all the credit in the world.

TNA and WWE are both dumb to not have Ivelisse on their rosters. That girl can go and has the IT factor that most male wrestlers dont have these days.

 

Nidia had a decent run too. Also Cameron or whatever he name is who was eliminated first last season is doing pretty well now. Boogeyman was over enough to keep getting guest spots every now and then. Not to mention Awesome Kong and ODB, who were on the first or second season but didnt make the cut to enter the house.

 

I dont think anyone watches TE to see the next WWE star. They need to change the show into more of a behind the scenes look at the training of the next group of stars. Get rid of the elimination aspect of it.



#2550 Sigma   King of Strong Style CAGiversary!   3568 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 27 July 2015 - 04:38 PM

TNA and WWE are both dumb to not have Ivelisse on their rosters. That girl can go and has the IT factor that most male wrestlers dont have these days.

 

Nidia had a decent run too. Also Cameron or whatever he name is who was eliminated first last season is doing pretty well now. Boogeyman was over enough to keep getting guest spots every now and then. Not to mention Awesome Kong and ODB, who were on the first or second season but didnt make the cut to enter the house.

 

I dont think anyone watches TE to see the next WWE star. They need to change the show into more of a behind the scenes look at the training of the next group of stars. Get rid of the elimination aspect of it.

I agree, I think Tough Enough would work better as a reality/documentary style show following a handful of current developmental talent. Similar to Total Divias, but less drama and more of a documentary style. Tough Enough is a great concept, but it's consistently executed poorly and aside from John Morrison I can't think of a single winner who has actually gone on to really do anything in the business, as you mentioned several talents who either didn't make it into the house or lost the contest have gone on to do some amazing work.