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#107611 DD83   'nives 'n 'nades CAGiversary!   8677 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:57 PM

Isn't sloppy programming fun? I had a game that took up 90GB of space (full install size of game) and took an hour to update on Steam because of lazy devs. For a 4gb patch. Since I only had about 80GB free on the ssd it is installed on, steam used the slower harddrive's free space.

 

I didn't have that problem you did with the div2 beta on PC as far as I could tell. It did make me load the game, take 2 minutes then tell me it had to finalize the update and reload the game again, making me watch the intro logos again.

Yeah.

 

Also, on PS4, it took about 20 minutes or so to apply the patch.

 

People seem to think that the PS4 copies the game data, applies the patch to the copied data, then erases the original data... or something like that.



#107612 waabulo   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1039 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:14 PM

Good on Steam to have a sale that they try something different with the red envelop with tokens (part of cultural tradition) and also $5 off of $30 purchase funded by Steam and not cutting into the devs/publishers money.  I think they did a good job of try to stimulate sales.  I can hope that Steam continues to have better innovation such as this to show win-win-win (Steam-Devs-consumers) with other sales.

 

Being a CAG, the biggest drawbacks are for me this sale: few games on my wishlist are on sale and most items I either am waiting for a better price (such as Divinity Original Sin 2 or No Man's Sky) due to having a backlog with plenty to play with currently OR games that I think should be in a Humble bundle within this year.  I generally have stopped buying Ubi games on Steam as you still have the same DRM and still have to have Ubi to play those games and Uplay and/or Humble will have the same sales prices during the year.  

 

At MysterD or anyone that has played Mass Effect Andromeda;  the movement animations are still "off" per se, why not a mini map, crafting with 3 different currencies, and the quest tracking is atrocious.  The gameplay is ok, story ok to meh; I think that they were trying to start a new franchise within the Mass Effect universe and tried to cram a lot into this game, but so far it feels flat and very unpolished.



#107613 nny   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   499 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:10 PM

I just watched the 2018 Steam Awards and only like 1 and a half of the categories was won by a game that came out in 18. The half is for Skyrim VR which did come out in 18, but was actually just a 7 year old game with a new perspective. It seems so ridiculous that they just put some of the biggest games of the past 5 years in these categories. I feel like the best thing about awards shows is to spotlight things people might have missed, but all the winners are just games that are already overexposed. It also seems like a bad idea on Steam's part to do this since giving awards out to games that haven't already sold millions of a copy might be a way to spark some new sales.

 

Heh, I just looked at the release dates for the winners and outside of PUBG and the 1.5 games I mentioned before, the other 5 categories were won by 2015 games. Guess they could have called this the 2015 Steam awards. Knowing the kind of backlog Steam users have, I guess it's appropriate to give out most of your awards to 3 year old games.



#107614 Insomniac_34   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   895 Posts   Joined 7.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:21 PM

CDPR won Developer of the Year because they released a good game four years ago and they might release another good game in two years.



#107615 Kelkeen   \mm/ \mm/ CAGiversary!   777 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:38 PM

Thronebreaker isn't a thing.

 

CDPR won Developer of the Year because they released a good game four years ago and they might release another good game in two years.



#107616 Ex~   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   578 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:39 PM

CDPR won Developer of the Year because they released a good game four years ago and they might release another good game in two years.

None of the awards make any sense, only in part because most are for 2015 games. That's because they were all voted on by "The Steam Community", and the Steam community is ... what's a synonym for "retarded" that isn't taboo? 



#107617 Ex~   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   578 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:57 PM

Heh, I just looked at the release dates for the winners and outside of PUBG and the 1.5 games I mentioned before, the other 5 categories were won by 2015 games. Guess they could have called this the 2015 Steam awards. Knowing the kind of backlog Steam users have, I guess it's appropriate to give out most of your awards to 3 year old games.

Just emphasizes the fact that always triggers PC gamers into flabbergasted, flailing, futile fits of denial, but still remains a fact: PC gamers don't buy new games. 



#107618 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   8334 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:18 PM

Just emphasizes the fact that always triggers PC gamers into flabbergasted, flailing, futile fits of denial, but still remains a fact: PC gamers don't buy new games. 

Don't confuse this echo chamber with gamers in general.

 

Other gamers buy new games. 

 

Young folks who live minimalist lives will pay full price for digital new releases too.

 

Unless the 'Top Selling' Steam games tab is completely full of shit, all of the notable new releases are always populating that list as well.



#107619 Ex~   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   578 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 10:31 PM

Don't confuse this echo chamber with gamers in general.

 

Other gamers buy new games. 

 

Young folks who live minimalist lives will pay full price for digital new releases too.

 

Unless the 'Top Selling' Steam games tab is completely full of shit, all of the notable new releases are always populating that list as well.

"Top selling" is a list of games that are selling the most that week in order. Yes, the newer ones will be the top selling ones on the latest lists. That doesn't mean they sold anything substantial, just that they sold the most. 

 

Let's look at some top-selling titles. 

 

Assassin's Creed: Origins

 

PS4 sales: 4.06 million, PC sales: 0.10 million

 

Call of Duty: Black Ops III:

 

PS4 Sales: 9.3 million, XBO sales: 4.84 million, PC sales: 0.13 million. 

 

Far Cry 5

 

PS4 Sales: 3.95 million, XBO sales: 1.78 million, PC sales: 0.07 million. 

 

It's not that the playerbase isn't there. Apex Legends reached, apparently, millions of PC players in its first week. Because it's F2P. 

 

Any time a developer points out what a joke it is to try to release new, narrative based content on the PC, that's not based on micro-transactions or F2P, we just jam our fingers in our ears and shout the messenger down. 

 

This is the page you want to look at to see what PC gamers buy new: 

 

https://store.steampowered.com/stats/

 

If PC gamers are buying any new titles at any substantial numbers, then you will find those titles on that list. So, if you see any new titles on there that are sold at a full retail price, then congratulations, you've found a title PC gamers will actually buy new. Also: the sun has frozen over. 

 

On PS4, Xbox One, Switch, they publish lists of top played games, and it's always brand new titles that are selling at full retail prices. Red Dead Redemption II, God of War, Assassin's Creed: Origins, etc. There are always some mainstays like FIFA, GTA V, etc. But comparing top played games on consoles and top played games on PC makes it very apparent: PC gamers don't buy new games. 

 

They are just different beasts, and the Steam Awards is a very poignant representation of that. To succeed on PC, you need to sell very low levels of a game consistently, at low prices, for a very long period of time. Or have a consistent stream of microtransaction money for a long period of time. You are not going to hype up a big release and then make tons of money on that initial release at full retail price. The initial first-week sales at full retail price will all be on console. 



#107620 Pengy99  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 10:46 PM

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#107621 HBX   Let That Boy Cook CAGiversary!   1092 Posts   Joined 5.1 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 10:47 PM

Being a CAG, the biggest drawbacks are for me this sale: few games on my wishlist are on sale and most items I either am waiting for a better price (such as Divinity Original Sin 2 or No Man's Sky) due to having a backlog with plenty to play with currently OR games that I think should be in a Humble bundle within this year.  I generally have stopped buying Ubi games on Steam as you still have the same DRM and still have to have Ubi to play those games and Uplay and/or Humble will have the same sales prices during the year. 

My wishlist has games that are either too new or games that I missed from prior sales and I'm tracking their discounts. One such title I regret missing from a prior sale is Fable Anniversary, which is less discounted in recent sales than before. I also missed getting the 1 dollar Puzzle Quest from the 2017 Winter Sale. Divinity Original Sin 1 seems to be getting better discounts with time, and maybe it will be time for it to be in a Humble Monthly or the like soon.



#107622 BossKey_Fox   Better Than You CAGiversary!   20931 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:11 PM

Revisiting the FC5 DLC, I've been spending the weekend finishing up because New Dawn comes out next week and I have it pre-ordered.  Here's a more complete breakdown:

 

Vietnam - This is just generic FC5 gameplay with a Vietnam skin.  It doesn't have much personality.  Vietnam is serious so it can't have the goofy, funny stuff from FC5 but it just is sort of plain and generic.  Took me about 4 hours to finish.  It's connected to the main game a little because it follows the story of one of the side character's past.

 

Lost On Mars - I'm only about an hour into this one, but it's great so far.  Has two of the characters from the main game.  It's a sci-fi twist on FC5.  Over the top.  New weapons.  New jump/hover ability.  It's your typical antenna climbing FC gameplay, but it's a lot of fun.

 

Zombies - This is the best FC5 DLC IMO.  You have 7 different missions presented in the form of movie pitches being made by one of the characters in the main game.  They take like 10-15 minutes to get through.  After you play them in story mode you unlock score attack mode where you can replay each mission and if you three star it you unlock cosmetics for the main game.

 

None of the DLC is crucial or has anything to do with the main story line.  Zombies and Mars are the best ones.  Vietnam is pretty skippable.

 

Main game has so much content though that you could just get that and wait for the SP to hit like $10 or less.  On top of the main game, you have probably 100s of arcade levels made by devs and other players.  A good chunk are solo or co-op while others are PvP maps.  Between the main game and that you'll have plenty to do. 



#107623 GauRocks  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:18 AM

This is the page you want to look at to see what PC gamers buy new: 

 

https://store.steampowered.com/stats/

 

If PC gamers are buying any new titles at any substantial numbers, then you will find those titles on that list. So, if you see any new titles on there that are sold at a full retail price, then congratulations, you've found a title PC gamers will actually buy new. Also: the sun has frozen over. 

So according to Football Manager 2019, I should go out and buy a heater?



#107624 INMATEofARKHAM   Looking for my padded cell CAGiversary!   5581 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

INMATEofARKHAM

Posted 10 February 2019 - 01:01 AM

Off topic, but I just had to free up 28 gig of space on my PS4 in order to download the 200 meg patch for Division 2 beta.

 

Yeah.

 

Also, on PS4, it took about 20 minutes or so to apply the patch.

 

People seem to think that the PS4 copies the game data, applies the patch to the copied data, then erases the original data... or something like that.

 

My personal belief is that they have no way of downloading on the parts of files that get updated, like steam does, so if any part of a file is changed it downloads the whole thing over again...  This can lead to really big patches.  The theory makes sense if you look around you see that PS$ almost always has a much larger patch.

 

Also, I question just how much Sony invests in their networking structure...  All those PS+ consumers and I feel that the PS4 networking is just as poor as PS3... but at least (In this argument) that PS3 was free.  PS+ I honestly don't see the 60 dollar value...  I mean they just dropped PS3 and the PSVita games from the monthly list, and let everyone know they could cancel, but if they do they lose access to those games.  Just let people have their PS3/Vita games for real and stop with this "rental" crap.

 

(Oh, well the things we do/endure to do to game with family...)  



#107625 Insomniac_34   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   895 Posts   Joined 7.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 02:48 AM

Let's look at some top-selling titles. 

 

Assassin's Creed: Origins

 

PS4 sales: 4.06 million, PC sales: 0.10 million

 

Call of Duty: Black Ops III:

 

PS4 Sales: 9.3 million, XBO sales: 4.84 million, PC sales: 0.13 million. 

 

Far Cry 5

 

PS4 Sales: 3.95 million, XBO sales: 1.78 million, PC sales: 0.07 million.

 

I mean, I'm not the only person who looked at these numbers and did the biggest double-take, right? Those PC figures are impossibly low. Only 70,000 bought FC5 on PC? If that was true Ubisoft would never bother with another FC game on the platform.

 

EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post and it looks like you're referring to first week sales. So the numbers aren't as ridiculous as originally thought, although I still imagine they're lower than the actual ones.



#107626 INMATEofARKHAM   Looking for my padded cell CAGiversary!   5581 Posts   Joined 9.9 Years Ago  

INMATEofARKHAM

Posted 10 February 2019 - 02:54 AM

I mean, I'm not the only person who looked at these numbers and did the biggest double-take, right? Those PC figures are impossibly low. Only 70,000 bought FC5 on PC? If that was true Ubisoft would never bother with another FC game on the platform.

We never get proper data on PC sales... Its been like that forever.

#107627 Insomniac_34   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   895 Posts   Joined 7.4 Years Ago  

Insomniac_34

Posted 10 February 2019 - 03:00 AM



Thronebreaker isn't a thing.

And they released Gwent as well. But we all know that they got their votes primarily because of their past and future works.

 



We never get proper data on PC sales... Its been like that forever.

Generally yes, but we know off the bat that its all-time peak on Steam is 92k and early SteamSpy estimates put them at 340k for the first three days on Steam alone. And it was one of 12 Platinum Sellers on Steam in 2018. It's safe to say the game sold quite well.



#107628 rcsample   You're entering a world of pain! CAGiversary!   4560 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:21 AM



New Dawn comes out next week and I have it pre-ordered.


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#107629 Detruire   Would have finished the dark skin first CAGiversary!   5412 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:38 AM

None of the awards make any sense, only in part because most are for 2015 games. That's because they were all voted on by "The Steam Community", and the Steam community is ... what's a synonym for "retarded" that isn't taboo? 

Sheep.

 

The results are mostly a popularity contest: votes are from people who have never played (or even seen) most of the candidates, so they just vote for the games they've heard of.

 

Of course, many of these people probably wouldn't have voted if Valve didn't offer a badge for doing so....



#107630 Zipomatic2   Really, Really Cheap CAGiversary!   550 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:38 AM

None of the awards make any sense, only in part because most are for 2015 games. That's because they were all voted on by "The Steam Community", and the Steam community is ... what's a synonym for "retarded" that isn't taboo? 

Special.

 

The steam community are very special.



#107631 DD83   'nives 'n 'nades CAGiversary!   8677 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:43 AM

I actually bought a couple things from the [ycs]sale[/ycs], both all time low and never bundled.

 

Demon Peak $0.49

A Hole New World $3.99



#107632 rcsample   You're entering a world of pain! CAGiversary!   4560 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:46 AM

I actually bought a couple things from the [ycs]sale[/ycs], both all time low and never bundled.

Demon Peak $0.49
A Hole New World $3.99

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#107633 Ex~   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   578 Posts   Joined 11.3 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 07:14 AM

Compared to 5.5 million on PS4. 

 

I'm not trying to claim I have access to absolutely accurate numbers, yes we all know numbers on PC are sketchy, but they are a good enough ballpark to make this point: PC game sales, even for games that literally the best selling games on PC, are a complete joke.

 

You can see an article proclaiming Far Cry 5 a massive success on PC, and the numbers they are claiming "massive success" off of are completely laughable compared to console game sales. 

 

If you need further evidence, again: look at the Steam Game Awards. We wouldn't see a 2018 Steam Game Awards filled with majority 2015 games if PC gamers bought new games. 

 

If you need further evidence: look at how the entire industry is changing to accommodate how the PC market works. Original, narrative titles are being abandoned, more and more developers are abandoning traditional new game sales for F2P, online based services (Fallout 76) and microtransaction based "continued support". Other developers are abandoning PC entirely for mobile (Blizzard, following in the tracks of the likes of PUBG mobile). 

 

Valve, who has the best access to numbers, was the first to do this, and are a great example: there is no Half Life 3 because Valve of all people know best it would be a complete waste of time, especially on PC. 

 

The 2018 Steam Awards are just a very poignant reminder of something totally apparent throughout the market: PC gaming as we used to know it is fully dead. Original, creative, new narrative titles cannot thrive on PC anymore, they have to totally rely on console sales. 



#107634 HBX   Let That Boy Cook CAGiversary!   1092 Posts   Joined 5.1 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 07:22 AM

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#107635 lakers714  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:35 AM

Ehh Ubisoft Games PC Sales account also for Uplay Versions so I wonder if they have revealed it. Like one of their biggest games Rainbow Six SIege I definitely see way more of the sales from the Uplay Version than the Steam Version 



#107636 BossKey_Fox   Better Than You CAGiversary!   20931 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:11 AM

Compared to 5.5 million on PS4.

I'm not trying to claim I have access to absolutely accurate numbers, yes we all know numbers on PC are sketchy, but they are a good enough ballpark to make this point: PC game sales, even for games that literally the best selling games on PC, are a complete joke.

You can see an article proclaiming Far Cry 5 a massive success on PC, and the numbers they are claiming "massive success" off of are completely laughable compared to console game sales.

If you need further evidence, again: look at the Steam Game Awards. We wouldn't see a 2018 Steam Game Awards filled with majority 2015 games if PC gamers bought new games.

If you need further evidence: look at how the entire industry is changing to accommodate how the PC market works. Original, narrative titles are being abandoned, more and more developers are abandoning traditional new game sales for F2P, online based services (Fallout 76) and microtransaction based "continued support". Other developers are abandoning PC entirely for mobile (Blizzard, following in the tracks of the likes of PUBG mobile).

Valve, who has the best access to numbers, was the first to do this, and are a great example: there is no Half Life 3 because Valve of all people know best it would be a complete waste of time, especially on PC.

The 2018 Steam Awards are just a very poignant reminder of something totally apparent throughout the market: PC gaming as we used to know it is fully dead. Original, creative, new narrative titles cannot thrive on PC anymore, they have to totally rely on console sales.


This doesn't sound like a complete joke to me:.

https://in.ign.com/f...ox-last-quarter

#107637 madjoki   Hey, y no wen free!? CAGiversary!   5347 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:25 AM

Well we don't have numbers, but we have profits per platform from Financial 2017Q4/2018Q1 (January - March 2018 / April - June 2018) aka Far Cry 5 release period

 

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And PC buy way more DLC/Microtransactions (which have bigger profits margins than games)

 

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TL;DR. PC seems important from Ubisoft so probably not a joke lol.



#107638 MysterD   38 Year Old Birthday Toaster (Oct. 25th) CAGiversary!   24757 Posts   Joined 15.5 Years Ago  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 01:19 PM

UbiSoft seems to offer up what gamers want: lots of big open-world sandboxes; tons to do even in the main quests; ridiculous amounts of side quests; upgrading skill/weapons/ability elements (ARPG stuff); great PC versions (technically, they look great - but also can be very scale-able to all kinds of different hardware sets so you should be able to at least get them to 30fps+).

 

You take all that above stuff...and Ubi does different stuff with it, making them have that above Ubi blueprint, but make each game experience a bit different enough b/c of how it plays gameplay-wise and what genre (or genres) it's mainly tackling. You can have one game be a FPS (Far Cry series); another be a mix of platformer/stealth/action (Assassin's Creed series); a GTA style game w/ hacking elements (Watch Dogs series); and even a game that has a brand-series identity crisis but offers up so many different styles & is so ambitious in scale & scope, so that you still can't go wrong w/ it (GR: Wildlands - part GR game; part Far Cry game; part GTA game; and part third-person shooter) - and it still all turns out at the very least as good; and is definitely worth the time & money.



#107639 Syntax Error   Art School Dropout CAGiversary!   10965 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 04:09 PM

Can I redeem my Derpvision 2 code now via the AMD system?  Didn't bother to check yet since I know launch isn't until March.  I suppose that might give me access to the closed beta, too?  But I've never been a fan of playing betas.

It's on the Ubi Div2 website somewhere that promotional copies don't count as preorders for beta access.

 

Played a bit of the beta this weekend and I like it.  Some QoL changes to the first game and a few things I'm not in love with but overall it feels like "The Division" which is what I want.  Still getting tweaked; right now weapon mods have equal +/- stats like +10% accuracy -10% stability and they're going to be lowering the negative stats so weapon accessories aren't a zero sum game but actually improve the weapon overall.



#107640 elessar123  

Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:29 PM

Consoles are better up front (first week/month), PC better for longevity. It's been like that. It's why companies port to PC after the console release.