[weretable]

Well, I do have a PS4 Pro, so if I follow your logic, I wouldn't have much of a need to get a PS5 at the moment.

 

If you're watching The Grand Tour, I'm assuming you've seen all of old-school Top Gear. If not, you should go check that out.

Honestly, yeah.  Unless you really want to play Demon's Souls there isn't a lot of reason to get one.  Wait until they make one with more storage and hopefully that isn't so ridiculously huge and nearly impossible to use horizontally.   (slight edit: You do get some improvements even over a Pro but judging from your other posts I don't think they would be worth it to you personally)

 

I haven't watched much since they changed hosts, but yeah old school Top Gear and Doctor Who were shows I actually kept up with.  I just couldn't be bothered to watch Prime Video on my computer which was the only option I really had until I bought the OLED or I would have watched The Grand Tour a long time ago.

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[Nothing-]

There are new components, but I'm not really drilling down to a level of detail that granular--I don't believe. Aren't we basically talking about the following three items? Faster processor, SSD, and 2xxx cards? That's not tech that is as new as 1 or 2 years old, is it?

 

 

Nope. I'm rockin' a GTX1060 at 1080p. Refresh rate? I have absolutely no idea.

New consoles are sporting NVME 4.0+ speeds, RTX 2080 performance, and a downclocked Ryzen 3600/3700 equivalent yes.  They skimped on storage space. 

 

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(Those three PC components alone would have cost ~$1200ish just one year ago.  Of course they are cutdown/integrated but that's the level of performance that they are offering in games).

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I stand by my assertion that all this RT stuff is useless hype for people to justify their 3080 purchase and most gamers don't care nor will they use or see useful RT in action for a good 5-10 years.

Driven by hunger, a Fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine. Although he leaped with all his strength, he couldn't manage to reach the grapes. As he went away, the Fox remarked, 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'
 

[warreni]

Honestly, yeah.  Unless you really want to play Demon's Souls there isn't a lot of reason to get one.  Wait until they make one with more storage and hopefully that isn't so ridiculously huge and nearly impossible to use horizontally.   (slight edit: You do get some improvements even over a Pro but judging from your other posts I don't think they would be worth it to you personally)

 

I haven't watched much since they changed hosts, but yeah old school Top Gear and Doctor Who were shows I actually kept up with.  I just couldn't be bothered to watch Prime Video on my computer which was the only option I really had until I bought the OLED or I would have watched The Grand Tour a long time ago.

Yes, for me personally, I'm not sure whether it will pay to move to a 5 until they're almost getting ready to put out a 6. And by then, Sony might have decided to start putting out all of its first-party stuff on PCs sooner than later, which would pretty much make getting a 5 utterly pointless to me.

 

No, my wife boycotted the show and virtually pretended it never existed after Clarkson was fired--but she loved The Grand Tour. You might want to check out some of the other Hammond and May shows that are on Prime too. There's some old stuff and James May has a show about wandering around and generally faffing about in Japan and a new one that's a cooking show, of all things.
 

[TheKbob]

I already bought a console specifically to play Demon's Souls... That was over 11 years ago, though.

 

[eulogywerd21]

I already bought a console specifically to play Demon's Souls... That was over 11 years ago, though.

 

I imported DS from PlayAsia and took a week off work to play it. I still, mostly, suck at Souls games, though.

[TheKbob]

I imported DS from PlayAsia and took a week off work to play it. I still, mostly, suck at Souls games, though.

I remember seeing the gameplay on like IGN or some site and showing it to a bunch of friends.  I think I sold three of four PS3s that day.  I didn't import a copy, but I have a Japanese copy now just for the sake of it.

[JSweeney]

New consoles are shiny and nice, but honestly I have way too many games to play across so many platforms that I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea of throwing down several hundred dollars to play maybe one or two games I couldn't play elsewhere along with minor improvements on games I haven't even got around to playing yet. 

Between bundles, services that are giving away games (Prime, Epic, etc) or services (Gamepass, Stadia, etc) that have libraries of games, and various holiday sales on last years "big" console games, the new games for PS5 and Series X have almost no allure for me.  
I don't have time to get through the stuff I own or have access to already.  

Maybe in 4-5 years, when there's something that's exclusive to them and I care enough to have to play "right now". 
But it's been a long while since any game reached that threshold. 

[Mooby]

Last week one of my best friends declared to me with a straight face  "Anything above 60 frames per second is imperceptible to the human eye".  I laughed.  He became irritated and demanded an explanation.  But in actuality he just wanted to tell his side.  It was then apparently my job to explain to him how people doing competitive PC gaming have been buying 240hz 1080p freesync displays and there was actually a new 360hz model this year.  All while he didn't care and refused to listen. 

Sounds like you and your friends get along great!

 

 

 

(And just to trigger you I was using an iPhone 5 up until about a month ago.)

[DD83]

I liked that before you added the iPhone 5 thing... I'm sad I can't like it again.

[Wa1terSobchak]

yelling at cloud deleted...

[BrownDerby]

[Blade]

Late to the party, but I don't think the new consoles are worth it either. Most of the games you can play on these consoles are the same ones you backlogged on the last iteration of the console that came out 3-4 years ago, only with super kewl graphics.

 

You've got Demon's Souls Remastered, but it's not a NEW Souls game. Then there's Spider-Man Miles Morales, which admittedly looks pretty good, but we've all probably already seen Into The Spider-Verse, which is essentially the Telltales version of that game. And lastly on the PS5 side, there's Godfall, the God of War clone. If I wanted God of War, I'd wait for the 3 separate releases of GoW remasters for $60 each with their 1337 ray tracing because my eyes really need to see Kratos' HD johnson whenever he performs an air combo.

 

The Xbox is just a modded Dell Workstation at this point. Get Ultimate, play on PC.

 

The crux is that the hype is real and people are scalping them just like they did with graphics cards, thus evoking that impulse buy mentality we all have in this laissez-faire economy. And I honestly believe the purported shortage for these consoles is artificial, just like most of the hype surrounding how technologically advanced they are. See how many of us were able to get the new GPU's without breaking the bank by simply waiting? If you truly need to play such a small library of new games, then just wait a few months for them to be in stock at MSRP.

 

If Bill Gates boxed one series of boxed Xbox Series X boxes, where's the box of one series of Xbox Series X boxes Bill Gates boxed? I don't know, but I'd box my exes in series for a box of boxed series Xbox Series X boxes boxed by Bill. And then I'd sell them at cost. I can personally wait until the next revision of the consoles is released in another few years.

[FinderKeeper]

Still using an iPhone SE. Not the new one, the old one. I think it was originally released between i6 and i7? Still takes the updates, though. Got it free about three years ago for signing up to MetroPCS. I was required to stay with the service for three months, then switched to TracFone. I'm a CAP (CheapAssPhony) as well as a CAG. But that screen seems to get smaller every year... 

 

re: Microsoft naming its consoles, they clearly were/are insecure about using a standard numbering sequence because that puts them one behind Sony's consoles. They didn't like the idea of 'Xbox 2' competing with 'PlayStation 3' so they went the geometry route with '360'. And while one popular guess for the next iteration was '720' (did some suggest '1080'?), they went the other direction and returned to 'One' (with they might have justified because the original Xbox didn't have a number). And now? I think they just like to with the naming sequence. Personally, I think they missed an opportunity to call the new generation 'Xbox 4K' to return it to some logical sequence, even indirectly.

 

Speaking of console variations, did any of y'all fellow ol' curs manage to try out one of the iterations of the PiPP!N? 

[BaeStuped]

Still using an iPhone SE. Not the new one, the old one. I think it was originally released between i6 and i7? Still takes the updates, though. Got it free about three years ago for signing up to MetroPCS. I was required to stay with the service for three months, then switched to TracFone. I'm a CAP (CheapAssPhony) as well as a CAG. But that screen seems to get smaller every year... 

 

re: Microsoft naming its consoles, they clearly were/are insecure about using a standard numbering sequence because that puts them one behind Sony's consoles. They didn't like the idea of 'Xbox 2' competing with 'PlayStation 3' so they went the geometry route with '360'. And while one popular guess for the next iteration was '720' (did some suggest '1080'?), they went the other direction and returned to 'One' (with they might have justified because the original Xbox didn't have a number). And now? I think they just like to with the naming sequence. Personally, I think they missed an opportunity to call the new generation 'Xbox 4K' to return it to some logical sequence, even indirectly.

 

Speaking of console variations, did any of y'all fellow ol' curs manage to try out one of the iterations of the PiPP!N? 

Both Cricket and MetroPCS are offering the newer iPhone SE for $49 right now if you want to upgrade.  I think you get 4.7'' instead of 4'' on that one.

[INMATEofARKHAM]

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but laugh at the fact that some Shenmue 3 backers paid at least $30 to get a Steam key, had to wait a year to get the key due to EGS exclusivity, and the day it finally releases on Steam, it's discounted down to $17.

Ironic as it is i don't think any game that has finally released on Steam has not had a sale day 1 of release.

[MysterD]

Ironic as it is i don't think any game that has finally released on Steam has not had a sale day 1 of release.

This happens A LOT w/ EGS-exclusives launching on Steam - Metro Exodus, Hades, Control: Ultimate, The Outer Worlds, and now Shemnue 3.

 

They (dev's and pub's) know Steam-users aren't happy about the 6 month-to-one year delay, so...they just keep pricing the game like they were doing on EGS. They treat is...as if it ain't a new game.

 

Sometimes, seems like...Steam or GOG (when launching way after EGS version) could possibly get a better version w/ more content, more DLC includes, more options,Achievement support, or whatever - once it launches there.

 

Also, BTW - Shenmue 3 is on GOG too now.

[Souffrir]

Still using an iPhone SE. Not the new one, the old one. I think it was originally released between i6 and i7? Still takes the updates, though. Got it free about three years ago for signing up to MetroPCS. I was required to stay with the service for three months, then switched to TracFone. I'm a CAP (CheapAssPhony) as well as a CAG. But that screen seems to get smaller every year...

re: Microsoft naming its consoles, they clearly were/are insecure about using a standard numbering sequence because that puts them one behind Sony's consoles. They didn't like the idea of 'Xbox 2' competing with 'PlayStation 3' so they went the geometry route with '360'. And while one popular guess for the next iteration was '720' (did some suggest '1080'?), they went the other direction and returned to 'One' (with they might have justified because the original Xbox didn't have a number). And now? I think they just like to with the naming sequence. Personally, I think they missed an opportunity to call the new generation 'Xbox 4K' to return it to some logical sequence, even indirectly.

Speaking of console variations, did any of y'all fellow ol' curs manage to try out one of the iterations of the PiPP!N?

I wish I had the old SE—same form factor as the 5 with the guts of a 6. That size of phone is just more comfortable to hold and type on than the larger phones that took over.

Curious about how the 12 mini might feel—in another two or three years when it’s actually at a reasonable price.

Also no Pippin, but I had a CD-i growing up.

[MysterD]

Bloodrayne 1 and 2 stuff.

 

Terminal Cut (Remasters) are now out for BloodRayne 1 and 2 on both Steam and GOG.

 

On Steam:

• Own BR1, you get BR1: Terminal for free. Check your Steam account.
• Own BR2, you get BR2: Terminal for free. Check your Steam account.

On GOG:

• Own BR1, you get BR1: Terminal for free. Check your GOG account.
• Own BR2, you get BR2: Terminal for free. Check your GOG account.

[Souffrir]

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Bloodrayne 1 and 2 stuff.

Terminal Cut (Remasters) are now out for BloodRayne 1 and 2 on both Steam and GOG.

On Steam:

• Own BR1, you get BR1: Terminal for free. Check your Steam account.
• Own BR2, you get BR2: Terminal for free. Check your Steam account.

On GOG:

• Own BR1, you get BR1: Terminal for free. Check your GOG account.
• Own BR2, you get BR2: Terminal for free. Check your GOG account.

Hey, you should upgrade yourself to a Sunbeam Radiant Control model, MysterD. Maybe you’d be less redundant.

[BreadNiblets]

Been reading through the recent posts and just wanted to say that I'm a shameless loser so I bought the PS5, Series X, and I have a 3080 and I love them all.

[MysterD]

Hey, you should upgrade yourself to a Sunbeam Radiant Control model, MysterD. Maybe you’d be less redundant.

Does not compute. Sorry.

[Nothing-]

Been reading through the recent posts and just wanted to say that I'm a shameless loser so I bought the PS5, Series X, and I have a 3080 and I love them all.

On what system will you be playing Cyberpunk 2077?  That is the main question. 

[BaeStuped]

https://www.pcgamer....sic-load-times/

Lolz

[BreadNiblets]

On what system will you be playing Cyberpunk 2077? That is the main question.

Well it won’t be the PS5, that’s for sure. I filled the SSD on that thing in about 5 minutes. I never planned on getting any multi platform stuff on the PS5 but I have to admit I really like the Dual Sense and depending on how it’s utilized I might slop up some third party slime from time to time on that system.

[MysterD]

Chart from NVidia on Cyberpunk 2077's requirements for all kinds of settings and systems:

[Nothing-]

Ray tracing is a hoax.  High frame rates are part of the radical left agenda.  The democrats are trying to steal this gen. 

 

[walletandgromice]

Ray tracing is a hoax. High frame rates are part of the radical left agenda. The democrats are trying to steal this gen.

Count every legal driver crash!!

[Blade]

Chart from NVidia on Cyberpunk 2077's requirements for all kinds of settings and systems:

The best part about this post is that an image about how awesome this game's graphics are supposed to be looks like shit and is nearly impossible to read. Thanks for the auto formatting, forums.

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The best part about this post is that an image about how awesome this game's graphics are supposed to be looks like shit and is nearly impossible to read.

Try it with ray tracing activated.