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Should Cannabis be Legalized?


#1 Lunacye   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   5 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 February 2015 - 11:22 PM

Either on a state or federal level, do you think it should be legal?

 

The debate is escalating across the nation as more states legalize medicinal forms of marijuana, limited access to CBD, as well as the recreational use of cannabis for all adults over 21. This year, as well as many years to come, will see cannabis legalization as a popular stance for politicians to project during campaigns (like gay marriage, abortion, tax reforms, etc).

 

It's undeniable presence begs the question, does a human being have the right to use cannabis?



#2 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7183 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 01:38 PM

I just think it should be taxed like beer and cigarettes. :-



#3 irideabike   no show CAGiversary!   6039 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 06:56 PM

It's safer than alcohol and a lot less kids have been beat by their fathers who were partaking.

#4 Darby27   Licensed to Dill CAGiversary!   13856 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:42 AM

Yes and tax the shit out of it.



#5 UncleBob  

Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:52 AM

I suspect you'll find little resistance to this topic here. Be it those who like to toke, those who look at the freedom aspect, those who look at the free market aspect, and those who look at the current incarnation aspect, I don't feel there's many here who are concerned about the morality/religious argument.

#6 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3254 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 07:01 AM

For the popular opinion around here: yes, and it should be taxed like cigarettes and alcohol.

 

Now, to get unpopular: The marijuana, cigarettes, and alcohol taxes should all be 0%.

 

Humans have the right to put whatever they choose in their bodies, not just things that are deemed acceptable by the majority of people living in a given area.



#7 UncleBob  

Posted 03 February 2015 - 04:21 PM

Now, to get unpopular: The marijuana, cigarettes, and alcohol taxes should all be 0%.


0% because you think all sales tax should be 0% or taxed 0% more than any other item?

#8 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7183 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 11:36 PM

We don't choose to breathe in hazardous materials, and have to contend with drunken idiots in public.



#9 rebelschs   Necessary Evil CAGiversary!   259 Posts   Joined 9.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:01 PM

Legalize it ALL.

 

I mean heroin, cocaine, PCP, Meth, pot, all of it. Make it so you can go to your local store of choice, and buy all you want.

 

It would provide more revenue and all of the users could get a good, clean hit, and not have to worry about getting robbed in the process.



#10 Síocháin Zum Subete   Banned Banned   1929 Posts   Joined 9.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 12:57 PM

I think it should.



#11 funkmonker  

Posted 12 February 2015 - 01:29 PM

Hell yeah

#12 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7183 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 10:57 PM

http://www.publicint...-ohios-pot-vote

 

Weed as a monopoly. In Ohio, they're trying to push this as a ballot measure, but it would only benefit the lobbyists that wanted the measure in the first place, not so much everybody else and the businesses that could be opened from the legalization. Money in politics. How American.



#13 Darby27   Licensed to Dill CAGiversary!   13856 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 28 June 2015 - 03:45 AM

http://www.publicint...-ohios-pot-vote

 

Weed as a monopoly. In Ohio, they're trying to push this as a ballot measure, but it would only benefit the lobbyists that wanted the measure in the first place, not so much everybody else and the businesses that could be opened from the legalization. Money in politics. How American.

The most amusing part is that the measure our statehouse is trying to pass to block this is called "Joint Resolution 4"



#14 MYndShenanigans   Satsui no Hado CAGiversary!   59 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:31 AM

THC Oil cures cancer in the blood, they need to legalize it and begin implementing other forms of cures with it as well.

I used to have bad asthma, but haven't had an issue breathing in the 10+ years since I began smoking. I have a card and I honestly can't remember the last day I didn't have at least 1 bowl. Some years now.

Anyway, I eat like an irresponsible 12 year old and should have type whatever is the most severe diabetes by now but every time I go to the Doc he tells me I'm healthy as a horse. I don't even know what's inside a gym.

God's medicine brothers and sisters :)

#15 mrsilkunderwear   Just Do It. CAGiversary!   1701 Posts   Joined 13.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 07:13 PM

THC Oil cures cancer in the blood, they need to legalize it and begin implementing other forms of cures with it as well.

I used to have bad asthma, but haven't had an issue breathing in the 10+ years since I began smoking. I have a card and I honestly can't remember the last day I didn't have at least 1 bowl. Some years now.

Anyway, I eat like an irresponsible 12 year old and should have type whatever is the most severe diabetes by now but every time I go to the Doc he tells me I'm healthy as a horse. I don't even know what's inside a gym.

God's medicine brothers and sisters :)

While I am all about legalization of all drugs, I have a hard time believing that smoking can cure asthma. I need to research that a bit more. 



#16 ChiefBrody1027   40th Anniversary CAG CAGiversary!   1379 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 08:55 PM

While I am all about legalization of all drugs, I have a hard time believing that smoking can cure asthma. I need to research that a bit more.


He may vape it.

#17 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3254 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Feeding the Abscess

Posted 19 July 2015 - 10:09 PM

0% because you think all sales tax should be 0% or taxed 0% more than any other item?

Both 1 and 2.



#18 MYndShenanigans   Satsui no Hado CAGiversary!   59 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 03:15 AM

It's proven that smoking Marijuana induces a productive cough that helps loosen congestion in the lungs. Every day my first bowl is followed by a lot of coughing and a lot of mucus coughed up into a tissue. After that I breathe easy for the remainder of the day despite really bad allergies in an area that is full of pollen.

Basically if it wasn't for that first bowl I'd need albuterol. I know this because on days when I've had to travel and can't bring it with me on a plane, I suck down an inhailer like it's giving me Crack money.

#19 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

Posted 20 July 2015 - 11:45 PM

Now, to get unpopular: The marijuana, cigarettes, and alcohol taxes should all be 0%.

So, what, pray tell, are we to fund our government (and government services) with?

 

What tax(es?) do you find acceptable? Property, income, capital gains, sales?

 

Funny you mention taxing salable goods at 0%. Most of you libertarians (who are just closet conservative plutocrat bootlickers in disguise, paying homage to social liberalism, and never voting for those items or doing anything to further their causes) typically GUSH at the idea of an enormous sales tax. What's that regressive Neal Boortz horseshit idea? the "FairTax"? Funny that the centerpiece of modern lunatic Randians in disguise is now a tax even those folks would argue against.



#20 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3254 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Feeding the Abscess

Posted 24 July 2015 - 04:48 AM

So, what, pray tell, are we to fund our government (and government services) with?

 

What tax(es?) do you find acceptable? Property, income, capital gains, sales?

 

Funny you mention taxing salable goods at 0%. Most of you libertarians (who are just closet conservative plutocrat bootlickers in disguise, paying homage to social liberalism, and never voting for those items or doing anything to further their causes) typically GUSH at the idea of an enormous sales tax. What's that regressive Neal Boortz horseshit idea? the "FairTax"? Funny that the centerpiece of modern lunatic Randians in disguise is now a tax even those folks would argue against.

You can't fund the same size government that exists today with a dramatically lessened tax base without significant consequence. Technically, it could be done. However, the amount of borrowing and printing that would be required to finance such an operation would result in a banana republic in short order.

 

I don't support any of the taxes you mentioned.

 

If those who profess to be libertarian are moving away from government interference in voluntary exchange, that's a wonderful occurrence. It also means they're moving towards a more consistently libertarian position.



#21 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:28 AM

Did I stutter?

 

What tax(es?) do you find acceptable? Property, income, capital gains, sales?

 

You can tell me what taxes you're against until you're blue in the face. Why don't you try to tell me a tax you actually support?



#22 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3254 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Feeding the Abscess

Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:41 AM

Did I stutter?

 

What tax(es?) do you find acceptable? Property, income, capital gains, sales?

 

You can tell me what taxes you're against until you're blue in the face. Why don't you try to tell me a tax you actually support?

I don't support taxes, so the only thing I'd be able to do in such a discussion is tell you which ones I oppose.



#23 mykevermin   Queen of Scotland CAGiversary!   37011 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

Posted 24 July 2015 - 12:53 PM

Fair enough. I mean, your response is evidence of how utterly useless Libertarianism is to *build* or *maintain* civilization.

 

That said, I respect that you're willing to directly say what you think instead of hiding behind some bluster. (see also: why people who say "all lives matter" instead of "black lives matter" really mean "shut up and take it, black people".)



#24 Sarang01   My Use Name Is Saber CAGiversary!   5588 Posts   Joined 18.2 Years Ago  

Posted 25 July 2015 - 05:12 PM

Frankly I find the fact I have to pay sales tax on groceries utterly bullshit.  Eating isn't a choice, it's what you need to live ffs.

 

On the weed note, we need it legalized just so Hemp gets legalized as a side note.  Hemp will be the great tool to help build the new Green economy.  Most bugs hate Hemp so you don't need to spray pesticides as much(too bad, so sorry Monsanto, Fuck off).  I mean Hemp is like the perfect human crop.  How many animals will actually eat Hemp besides humans?



#25 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7183 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:28 PM

If you're paying sales tax on groceries, your state is doing it wrong or has done so in a way that would impact the poors (cause you gotta nickle and dime them). If by groceries, you mean cooked food, obviously that's a sales tax.



#26 UncleBob  

Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:24 AM

If you're paying sales tax on groceries, your state is doing it wrong or has done so in a way that would impact the poors


Gotta pay for those farm subsidies somehow...

#27 TheBroKitten   Banned Banned   273 Posts   Joined 7.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 02:33 AM

While I am all about legalization of all drugs, I have a hard time believing that smoking can cure asthma. I need to research that a bit more. 

One of the best things for tobacco smokers who just quit is to smoke grass.    It completely clears out the lungs.  no lies here.



#28 TheBroKitten   Banned Banned   273 Posts   Joined 7.2 Years Ago  

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 02:37 AM

What really makes me sad is that grass has been legal for millions of years. It is only in recent times that is was made illegal. Pharmacists dispensed it up until 1930s. It needs to be relegalized asap

#29 Sarang01   My Use Name Is Saber CAGiversary!   5588 Posts   Joined 18.2 Years Ago  

Posted 29 September 2015 - 01:27 AM

For the popular opinion around here: yes, and it should be taxed like cigarettes and alcohol.

 

Now, to get unpopular: The marijuana, cigarettes, and alcohol taxes should all be 0%.

 

Humans have the right to put whatever they choose in their bodies, not just things that are deemed acceptable by the majority of people living in a given area.

Coughinsurancepoolexclusioncough



#30 Feeding the Abscess   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   3254 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Feeding the Abscess

Posted 29 September 2015 - 08:46 AM

Coughinsurancepoolexclusioncough

Nobody should be forced to finance another person's lifestyle, either, so if someone wants to shoot up heroin and run around on PCP, it should be perfectly fine that no insurance agency would be willing to cover their potential/likely medical expenses.