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#1021 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2015 - 08:39 PM

Yeah, Skylanders basically is dead now due to Infinity and Amiibos. Nah, not really,  but I think the hype behind them just died and the competition with the other two is just the final nail in the coffin. Infinity around here doesn't seem to be doing any better as its shelves are just as packed as the Skylanders ones are. Amiibos are low but that's just Nintendo being their typical cheapass selves underproducing because they are terrified they will end up with too much product (in their defense though they don't have nearly as much money to throw around compared to the other two). At this point I'm willing to bet this 'bring your figure to life' video game thing will definitely end up being a phase in the gaming industry like the musical game series (RB/GH though they are attempting a comeback) was as all of these companies are just flooding the market with them now and that's just over saturation which leads to sales plummeting.

 

I predict all of these franchises (Skylanders, Amiibos and Disney Infinity) will eventually end and Nintendo will take what they learned from this Amiibo crisis and will one day utilize their most bankable franchise (Pokemon) into a new Pokemon game where they can further exploit gamers and collectors with a similar concept.

I honestly feel the bigger problem with Trap Team was bad word of mouth, and it was just too much.

While I enjoy the games, I don't think they should be annual, it seems to ruin it.

 

Like they have literally over saturated the market now, along with all the new CFGs (Collectible Figure Games)



#1022 elessar123  

Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:19 PM

Lego Dimensions is coming out soon too, which hampered my interest in Skylanders. That, and the water level I played in Superchargers was a turn off.

 

Also, Skylanders should have made old versions and new versions the same, instead of having like 10 gill grunts, 10 stealth elves, 10 pop fizzes, etc. Would have kept more people interested.

 

I'm tempted to dump all my Skylanders and amiibos now too.



#1023 Saphoon   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1846 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2015 - 10:38 PM

How do the gimmick skylanders work in Superchargers?  Are they just effectively core figures?  Or do they:

- Giants: Open chests and move rocks

- Swappers: Assume nothing here, can't see them bringing back swap zones or dual gates

- Minis: Gate in academy last game

- Trap Masters: Break traptanium crystals, open gates, extra damage to bosses (and what are they doing with Blastermind's soul gem?)

 

Just curious if this is going to be more like giant boxes in Swap Force or if I should just vendor the gimmick figures I don't like from past games. 

From what I've gathered, there are no elemental gates. The Superchargers can modify vehicles, while older figures must stick with the base model. That's my biggest sticking point with the franchise - weaken and make irrelevant the older figures.



#1024 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 23 September 2015 - 11:07 PM

From what I've gathered, there are no elemental gates. The Superchargers can modify vehicles, while older figures must stick with the base model. That's my biggest sticking point with the franchise - weaken and make irrelevant the older figures.

Agreed.

Swap Force atleast kept corelanders and Giants relevent

Then Trap Team made everything BUT Trap Masters irrelevent.

 

Supposedly there are no elemental gates.. so everyone is on the same playing field. The difference (From the back of the box) is if you have the correct Driver/Vehicle pair.. the vehicle transformers into an epic version... called "Supercharged" this version is faster and more powerful.

Also all the vehicles act as different racers in the online racing mode.

This video shows the base vehicle supercharged at the end https://www.skylande...ters/hot-streak

 

I don't mind this approach... but it would be nice if they threw a call back to the older chars.. like a spot not required for any achieve.. but where an old swap char or trap char can enter.

 

I DID mind how Trap Team made it so unless you had all the Trap Master elements.. you were screwed.. which made buying anything else worthless.

 

 

Yeah, Skylanders basically is dead now due to Infinity and Amiibos. Nah, not really,  but I think the hype behind them just died and the competition with the other two is just the final nail in the coffin. Infinity around here doesn't seem to be doing any better as its shelves are just as packed as the Skylanders ones are. Amiibos are low but that's just Nintendo being their typical cheapass selves underproducing because they are terrified they will end up with too much product (in their defense though they don't have nearly as much money to throw around compared to the other two). At this point I'm willing to bet this 'bring your figure to life' video game thing will definitely end up being a phase in the gaming industry like the musical game series (RB/GH though they are attempting a comeback) was as all of these companies are just flooding the market with them now and that's just over saturation which leads to sales plummeting.

 

I predict all of these franchises (Skylanders, Amiibos and Disney Infinity) will eventually end and Nintendo will take what they learned from this Amiibo crisis and will one day utilize their most bankable franchise (Pokemon) into a new Pokemon game where they can further exploit gamers and collectors with a similar concept.

I just got back from Gamestop and they shined a new perspective which made me think they truly are right.

 

Trap Team floundered due to the fact they created fake shortages like Nintendo's Amiibos. The workers pointed out that they've not had a Trap Team shipment in months, so what's on the shelf have been there since the beginning of the summer. Add to that, there were many characters on an extremely limited run, such as Gear Shift, KnightLight, Knightmare, and the Kaos Trap. The later only being released in tiny shipments.

This made me think back.

During Swap Force, they staggered the release so that you could NOT 100% the game in a single night.. you had to wait till Nov/December before all the element and ability combinations were released.

 

During Trap Team, they went one worse. Not only did they stagger the release.. they released two new elements. The elements weren't even in game at release just "You seem to have found an unknown element.. it wasn't till March that these elements were released and you could officially 100% the game.

Then there is the rare Kaos trap, which unless your lucky or bought the Dark Version.. you may never find. Which sucks since it was one of the major selling points to capture Kaos.

 

It seems people are finally just tired of the crap Activision is doing with the game.. while Superchargers is a big step forward.. Trap Team hurt them, along wiht competition.

 

 

Lego Dimensions is coming out soon too, which hampered my interest in Skylanders. That, and the water level I played in Superchargers was a turn off.

 

Also, Skylanders should have made old versions and new versions the same, instead of having like 10 gill grunts, 10 stealth elves, 10 pop fizzes, etc. Would have kept more people interested.

 

I'm tempted to dump all my Skylanders and amiibos now too.

They did that to keep the characters relevent and to get people to rebuy them. Each revision had a new ability and all the old abilities mixed in.. though I feel the "Eon's Elite" is a BS cash grab.



#1025 Saphoon   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1846 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2015 - 10:57 PM

Agreed.
Swap Force atleast kept corelanders and Giants relevent
Then Trap Team made everything BUT Trap Masters irrelevent.

Supposedly there are no elemental gates.. so everyone is on the same playing field. The difference (From the back of the box) is if you have the correct Driver/Vehicle pair.. the vehicle transformers into an epic version... called "Supercharged" this version is faster and more powerful.
Also all the vehicles act as different racers in the online racing mode.
This video shows the base vehicle supercharged at the end https://www.skylande...ters/hot-streak


I don't mind this approach... but it would be nice if they threw a call back to the older chars.. like a spot not required for any achieve.. but where an old swap char or trap char can enter.

I DID mind how Trap Team made it so unless you had all the Trap Master elements.. you were screwed.. which made buying anything else worthless.


I just got back from Gamestop and they shined a new perspective which made me think they truly are right.

Trap Team floundered due to the fact they created fake shortages like Nintendo's Amiibos. The workers pointed out that they've not had a Trap Team shipment in months, so what's on the shelf have been there since the beginning of the summer. Add to that, there were many characters on an extremely limited run, such as Gear Shift, KnightLight, Knightmare, and the Kaos Trap. The later only being released in tiny shipments.
This made me think back.
During Swap Force, they staggered the release so that you could NOT 100% the game in a single night.. you had to wait till Nov/December before all the element and ability combinations were released.

During Trap Team, they went one worse. Not only did they stagger the release.. they released two new elements. The elements weren't even in game at release just "You seem to have found an unknown element.. it wasn't till March that these elements were released and you could officially 100% the game.
Then there is the rare Kaos trap, which unless your lucky or bought the Dark Version.. you may never find. Which sucks since it was one of the major selling points to capture Kaos.

It seems people are finally just tired of the crap Activision is doing with the game.. while Superchargers is a big step forward.. Trap Team hurt them, along wiht competition.


They did that to keep the characters relevent and to get people to rebuy them. Each revision had a new ability and all the old abilities mixed in.. though I feel the "Eon's Elite" is a BS cash grab.

It looks like this time you can get away with buying 2 vehicles and nothing else. However, if you want every Supercharger and vehicle, you're looking at 10 figures and 10 vehicles to cover every element. Sucks the WiiU version has two life characters.

#1026 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 25 September 2015 - 11:53 PM

It looks like this time you can get away with buying 2 vehicles and nothing else. However, if you want every Supercharger and vehicle, you're looking at 10 figures and 10 vehicles to cover every element. Sucks the WiiU version has two life characters.

Agreed.. why is Donkey Kong life and his Vehicle Tech?
There are 20 figures and 20 vehicles by the looks.. including Donkey & Bowser

2 of every core element, 1 light, 1 dark, and the 2 NIntendo.



#1027 Saphoon   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1846 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 26 September 2015 - 08:39 PM

Agreed.. why is Donkey Kong life and his Vehicle Tech?

 

So you don't get a Supercharger right out of the gate.



#1028 Masterkyo   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   11325 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 27 September 2015 - 02:38 AM

http://skylanderscha...argers-figures/

#1029 SlayerX11  

SlayerX11

Posted 27 September 2015 - 03:42 AM

Personally i wish they would retire more figures and let the older ones become rare in  as sense that ppl would want them



#1030 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 27 September 2015 - 05:02 AM

Personally i wish they would retire more figures and let the older ones become rare in  as sense that ppl would want them

I think the problem is there aren't any Iconic characters honestly.

Like Flynn and the others might be the real icons, not the Skylanders..



#1031 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 27 September 2015 - 05:27 AM

So you don't get a Supercharger right out of the gate.

He's a SuperCharger for his vehicle.



#1032 AriesDog   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   750 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 12:44 PM

This is rather interesting sales statistics

The source for your Skylanders sales statistics? Because anytime Skylanders made the top ten NPDs it was usually the 360 in the lead and the Wii and WiiU were at the lower end. NPD doesn't give out sales numbers either.

#1033 snowmint   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   432 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 11:59 PM

I want the four sykmiibos but what's the cheapest way to get them?

#1034 JSweeney   ... CAGiversary!   11168 Posts   Joined 15.0 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 12:34 AM

I want the four sykmiibos but what's the cheapest way to get them?

Ebay. Otherwise you'd need to buy two dark starter kits and two other starters. 
The figures ONLY exist in the starter kits or second hand. 



#1035 Serejai  

Posted 28 September 2015 - 03:12 AM

The source for your Skylanders sales statistics? Because anytime Skylanders made the top ten NPDs it was usually the 360 in the lead and the Wii and WiiU were at the lower end. NPD doesn't give out sales numbers either.

This is somewhat anecdotal, but as a seller of Skylanders products my best-selling starter pack is the Wii by a very large margin. It outsells the 360 about 2:1.

 

For every one PS4 I sell (worst selling), I sell:

 

2 PS3

2 XOne

3 3DS

6 Wii U

10 360

20 Wii

 

It was pretty much the same for Swap Force and Giants, and Spyro's Adventure was pretty much 80% Wii when I sold those. I move a few hundred starter packs a month so I have a fair amount of data on the packs, but the numbers could be different for brick and mortar stores.



#1036 Josef   Touched the dead CAGiversary!   11307 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

Posted 28 September 2015 - 12:29 PM

The Wii versions are the ones I've always heard as being the most high selling too.  Though they also appear to be the ones with the most game-killing glitches and freezes so perhaps people are buying multiple copies as they return older ones.



#1037 TheAggroCraig   Hummus! CAGiversary!   1430 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 01:30 AM

The fact the Wii one sells so much astounds me... but I guess that's what happens with games made for kids.

 

Hopefully down the road they're still readily available, I hope to get Bowser/DK used at some point on the cheap... hopefully places don't jack up prices, nor do I hope that Amiibo fans keep their prices high. I need to get Trap Team before I pick up Supercharge :/



#1038 Serejai  

Posted 30 September 2015 - 03:03 AM

I will also point out that Superchargers is selling MUCH slower than Trap Team did for me. Not just Superchargers, but Disney Infinity 3.0 is pretty much a flop, too. I'm not expecting many LEGO Dimensions sales, either. The entire toys to life market is completely oversaturated and demand is low for anything that isn't an amiibo. In previous years I made more on day one of a release than I have in the last three weeks combined for the current games.

 

I would expect some very hefty deals around Black Friday; probably as much as 50% off + freebies. You can already see this with the Infinity 3.0 Saga Bundles, that released at $115 and now - a mere three weeks later - are available at Best Buy for effectively $59.99 once you factor in the free figure and GCU. Superchargers vehicles aren't really selling at all, so I would expect there to be a B1G1 50% off sometime very soon - otherwise stores are not going to bother ordering Wave 2/3 boxes when their shelves are still flooded with Wave 1.



#1039 Shadowstrike   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   123 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Shadowstrike

Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:08 AM

So if I missed Golden Hot Streak vehicle do I get another chance besides ebay? Was this a first shipment only thing?



#1040 SlayerX11  

SlayerX11

Posted 01 October 2015 - 06:13 AM

So if I missed Golden Hot Streak vehicle do I get another chance besides ebay? Was this a first shipment only thing?

Id like to know this also



#1041 berzirk   I'm not so serious CAGiversary!   2503 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 06:13 PM

Add me to the list of people who really bought in at first, but as the games release (with too little time in between) I have trouble gearing up.  I purchased every character in Spyro, then I have all the "gimmick" characters through Swap Force.  I actually keep a spreadsheet to track the purchases and characters.  It's pathetic.  All this for a game that I buy "for" my son. It does make for a nice reward for school  work, behavior, or pure bribery though.  Whip out a new Skylander that I found on sale, and give it to him.

 

Superchargers doesn't interest me much, but I suspect I'll buy it when it's down to $25 new, and characters are 30-40% off standard. Infinity never did it for me, and even the Star Wars announcements haven't been enough. LEGO has been the only other one that made me pause for a second, but I kinda look at it like console purchases. I've been really happy with Xbox since I got the first one, so unless Sony or (chuckle) Nintendo do something to totally wow me, Xbox and Skylanders get my toys to life business.



#1042 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:16 PM

The source for your Skylanders sales statistics? Because anytime Skylanders made the top ten NPDs it was usually the 360 in the lead and the Wii and WiiU were at the lower end. NPD doesn't give out sales numbers either.

VGChartz.com

I do not know where they get their numbers from

 

 

This is somewhat anecdotal, but as a seller of Skylanders products my best-selling starter pack is the Wii by a very large margin. It outsells the 360 about 2:1.

 

For every one PS4 I sell (worst selling), I sell:

 

2 PS3

2 XOne

3 3DS

6 Wii U

10 360

20 Wii

 

It was pretty much the same for Swap Force and Giants, and Spyro's Adventure was pretty much 80% Wii when I sold those. I move a few hundred starter packs a month so I have a fair amount of data on the packs, but the numbers could be different for brick and mortar stores.

That's pretty much how I've heard it from many of my Gamestop employee/manager friends..

That the Wii/Wii U versions always do the best...

 

 

I will also point out that Superchargers is selling MUCH slower than Trap Team did for me. Not just Superchargers, but Disney Infinity 3.0 is pretty much a flop, too. I'm not expecting many LEGO Dimensions sales, either. The entire toys to life market is completely oversaturated and demand is low for anything that isn't an amiibo. In previous years I made more on day one of a release than I have in the last three weeks combined for the current games.

 

I would expect some very hefty deals around Black Friday; probably as much as 50% off + freebies. You can already see this with the Infinity 3.0 Saga Bundles, that released at $115 and now - a mere three weeks later - are available at Best Buy for effectively $59.99 once you factor in the free figure and GCU. Superchargers vehicles aren't really selling at all, so I would expect there to be a B1G1 50% off sometime very soon - otherwise stores are not going to bother ordering Wave 2/3 boxes when their shelves are still flooded with Wave 1.

Interesting, I knew Superchargers flopped hard.. but I suspected it to be due to Infinity 3.0 selling Star Wars.. something that is a figurative steamroller in the marketplace

 

Dimension... WILL NOT SELL
It is the true emphisis of WB's averice and greed... just like all their other games... they over emphisis the DLC and add ons.



#1043 Saphoon   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1846 Posts   Joined 14.5 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:31 PM

Shame, as I've been having a lot of fun with Infinity, which finally got it right concerning the Toyboxes (user created  content). I think the yearly updates are hurting things, as the playsets are of high quality, but shamefully short. I understand the need this year, with Star Wars joining the fray, but there's no need for a whole new installment next year - DLC patches should accommodate new playsets as they come along. 



#1044 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:33 PM

Shame, as I've been having a lot of fun with Infinity, which finally got it right concerning the Toyboxes (user created  content). I think the yearly updates are hurting things, as the playsets are of high quality, but shamefully short. I understand the need this year, with Star Wars joining the fray, but there's no need for a whole new installment next year - DLC patches should accommodate new playsets as they come along. 

THIS RIGHT HERE!
They should not be annual!

Maybe expand upon the Gimmick of the year in the next year but not a whole new set.



#1045 Frog Ribs   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   186 Posts   Joined 11.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:41 PM

Infinity might pick up with the OT stuff out now, and there's also TFA coming right before Christmas.

#1046 ackbar7   Flamble CAGiversary!   3098 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:44 PM

THIS RIGHT HERE!
They should not be annual!
Maybe expand upon the Gimmick of the year in the next year but not a whole new set.

When Disney Infinity released they claimed this would be true. The game was supposed to be forward compatible. It is a shame they went back on that, and can't even make the old sets backwards compatible.

#1047 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 08:25 PM

When Disney Infinity released they claimed this would be true. The game was supposed to be forward compatible. It is a shame they went back on that, and can't even make the old sets backwards compatible.

Yea, I was wondering how do the Avengers and ETC work in 3.0?
Can they be played in Star Wars, I really wish you could bring those chars into the new universe....



#1048 AriesDog   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   750 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 08:59 PM

Yea, I was wondering how do the Avengers and ETC work in 3.0?
Can they be played in Star Wars, I really wish you could bring those chars into the new universe....

You can put your old playsets on the base to unlock all of the corresponding items in the Toy Box. They still have the limitation of characters not able to play in a play set that's not their own. That's why Toy Box Takeover is secretly the best set to get. It allows any character to play the story. Want Chewbacca and Hulk to team up and fight Davey Jones? Sure.

#1049 Jiryn   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4261 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 October 2015 - 09:35 PM

You can put your old playsets on the base to unlock all of the corresponding items in the Toy Box. They still have the limitation of characters not able to play in a play set that's not their own. That's why Toy Box Takeover is secretly the best set to get. It allows any character to play the story. Want Chewbacca and Hulk to team up and fight Davey Jones? Sure.

Yea, and I am not much into making my own games anymore.

My bachelors was in animation, focusing of stuff for games... then I did it amatuer for a while and.. the job market turned me off.

Which is why my Masters and beyond was in Computer Science: Information Assurance - Network Administration...

So many dreams, but the reality of the industry scared me off.

That's one of the reasons I've been debating Infinity 3.0.. I want it for the gameplay, not the build your own levels.

Same with the Little Big Planet, and SPark games.. I did it for the gameplay, not the create your own.

 

Mario Maker has me curious... ugh if anyone has some insight.. please sent it!



#1050 PikkonFusion   CAG Veteran - DBZ 4 LIFE CAGiversary!   370 Posts   Joined 10.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 03 October 2015 - 10:50 PM

Has there been a good article that covers what the minimums one would need to 100% the game? 
They made it clear that to just beat the game you'd only need a land vehicle.

 

Though, it looks like there's elemental vehicle gates, so there's ten vehicles needed- not sure if the superchargers are required or not, though.

With Amiibos, Infinity 3 and Lego Dimensions around, I don't want it to be like trap team again where you need 21+ things (ten trap masters, ten traps, Kaos trap)... if they keep at reasonable around 10 or so, I'll be a lot happier.

I found this site: ign.com

This series is gonna cost some serious $$$.