Found myself about to buy repros

needler420

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Then I read some peoples posts on the subject and it put me back into perspective.

 I don't think all collectors have it as bad, but this is apparently a misguided sense of justice, where somehow buying this is better than emulating it.

An example with Zelda Parallel Worlds.

This is just a few graphic designers who are making the art boxes and one or two guys, who are taking old carts apart, copying Nintendo's code and hackers' designs onto it...and selling it. Yes, selling it... but NOT owning it.

They DON'T own the original code, they DON'T own the new design i.e. all adaptations of the original game, they DON'T even own the hardware, since the chip and casing was taken from some other SNES cart. They DON'T even own the graphic design of the booklet and the characters (all of this is Nintendo's art work of A link to the past game). They are simply copying all that.

That's why we, the romhackers, only support freeware IPS/patch files. We DON'T support romfiles on the internet, we DON'T support cart making and we especially DON'T support any monetary action connected with them.

And we DON'T support people bragging on the You tube, how they've just bought an illegal cart. It is like saying: "Look, I'm a dumbass, I've just bought a cart from someone, who doesn't own it, and I've spent 150$ for a game I could play for free. I'm a collector and don't like emulators, I like to be abused by cart resellers instead."

Parallel Worlds was released as an IPS file, not a rom file or a cart. The IPS should be used for PERSONAL purposes only. Making and selling carts or putting a rom on the internet for profits is NOT among those!

I just fine it funny with this boom of repros going on and all the mixed preconceptions on the matter.

I've seen youtube videos of these repro buyers bragging about their game online and have seen many of them have discussions about the game with others who have played it but emulated it. Often times blasting the emulators like as if the repros are more morally accepted. It's the same thing.

Here is a comparable quick example I got.

PWheat23 3 years ago
The only use I would have for a reproduction cart is if it were a game that I really wanted to play but was not released in the United States. It would also have to be translated into english for me to have any interest in finding it. Roms, I dont have a problems with it. I too have played roms before and just like you said, it was only to relive the experience I had with a game from my childhood. Now I am collecting games so I do not use roms anymore.
 
 
Little does he know a repro is still a unlicensed rom.
 Emulating is more morally correct to me because its just someone wanting to play the game. While its still not right its more morally right then monetary gains from copyright infrigement on work that isn't even theirs.

Glad I didn't buy any repros. The only thing I can do with it is brag about it on youtube and have a physical item to hold and resell. Playing it on emulation is just as illegal as the repro.

I won't even go into discussion of counterfeits from repros. But someone who wants to pass something off would have a very easy and almost risk free. Even if you got caught passing a counterfit nothing legally would happen.

I will say one thing. I know counterfeits have made there way on the market and are being passed as the real thing. Some may get discovered some might not ever.

 
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If you are buying repros at cost, meaning just reimbursing them for the materials to put together the fancy packaging, then I think most people don't have a problem with that. But I don't like to see them "profit" from the repros, even if they just say it's for their time. Of course all of this, IMO, only goes for "dead" IP that is not owned by a current entitiy or companies do not intend to release again. So that negates most Nintendo items.

Also, I do agree 100% that repros should have a mark indicating that they are repros.

 
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If you are buying repros at cost, meaning just reimbursing them for the materials to put together the fancy packaging, then I think most people don't have a problem with that. But I don't like to see them "profit" from the repros, even if they just say it's for their time. Of course all of this, IMO, only goes for "dead" IP that is not owned by a current entitiy or companies do not intend to release again. So that negates most Nintendo items.

Also, I do agree 100% that repros should have a mark indicating that they are repros.
That's the thing though no one that's doing them is doing them for just someone giving them the donor cart. The difference is what is that value of time worth that it takes them to make it vs amount of copyright infringement damages.

What you're describing is using it on a personal level. A friend making it for a friend. Selling them on websites is for profit.

I see them getting bigger and bigger though so I'm wondering what it's going to do to the collectors market when you have people making unmarked authentic looking copies of Waynes world, Little samson, Panic Restaurant.

It's not sites selling them any more its a DIY project nowadays for some.

 
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