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Are people finally fed up with corrupt and bad police across the country


#1 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 09:59 PM

It seems everyday there is a new story of police acting unethically, unprofessional or downright criminal.

 

Has the institution itself, finally now under a microscope that it has never had to deal with before. We are seeing what has been their dirty secrets.

 

On a side note:

Police love to use the "he got a gun, I fear for my life" excuse.   But in all these riots and uprising, there have yet to be "all these bad guys with guns" that we are brainwashed to believe.  And no one has gone on a shootout during these protests.   It looks more like Palestine Vs. Israel when you look at it, the citizens being Palestine and our police being Israel

Not to mention the majority of all people killed by police are never armed with a gun.

 

 

Maybe the fact is that guns really aren't that available to bad people.



#2 synnarc   Lord of the VRAM CAGiversary!   1629 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

Posted 27 April 2015 - 11:07 PM

There are 10s of thousands of good cops to every 1 bad cop. Don't let the main stream media brain wash you any more than you already are. As long as humans are cops there will be bad ones just like every other profession in the world.



#3 detectiveconan16   Delicious! CAGiversary!   7186 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 12:29 AM

The protests are happening because the good cops aren't trying as hard as the people want to weed out and handle those so called 1% of corrupt cops.



#4 YBX87   CAGiversary! Banned   14405 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 12:53 AM

they sure are in baltimore right now , i expect the national guard to be deployed soon, and marital law

 



#5 Spokker   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2211 Posts   Joined 17.4 Years Ago  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 01:37 AM

A city councilman was whining about lack of economic development and opportunity in Baltimore as a reason for the violence.

 

So let's burn down the new $16 million senior center and CVS.



#6 mchittumjr  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 03:05 PM

Its disgusting watching what their doing and the sad part is they're doing it around where they live. It started as a protest and now its just lets loot a store because the cops aren't going to stop us. Supposedly there is another "purge" happening today at another local mall. This whole situation is just hurting Baltimore financially, 10 o'clock curfew is going to really hurt downtown bars and restaurants. Its just sad.



#7 YBX87   CAGiversary! Banned   14405 Posts   Joined 11.2 Years Ago  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 04:28 PM

real life grand theft auto 5 in baltimore

 



#8 dohdough   Sum Dum Guy CAGiversary!   6860 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 04:51 PM

There are 10s of thousands of good cops to every 1 bad cop. Don't let the main stream media brain wash you any more than you already are. As long as humans are cops there will be bad ones just like every other profession in the world.

How many professions have the power of police and kill you if they Fuck up or have a bad day?



#9 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 05:15 PM

How many professions have the power of police and kill you if they Fuck up or have a bad day?

Ehh...that argument is a two way street though. How many professions have you put your life in danger by willingly and continuously confronting some of the worst scum in the country?

 

That doesn't excuse what happened here in any way. But the the way in which our society decides to "protest" now isn't right either. What we're seeing is the equivalent of a toddler kicking, screaming, and throwing a tantrum to get what they want. Even if they had a point, you can't give in to it because it just reinforces that that behavior gets results.

 

But that's how stupid we are as a country now. We have people in power who don't know how to act and people in the streets who don't know how to act. This is a sinking ship, folks. Might as well cue up the band.



#10 UncleBob  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 05:23 PM

If these people actually wanted to protest, they'd be burning down police stations, city halls, capital buildings, etc.

It's less work and more rewarding to burn down private businesses. You're unlikely to get free stuff before burning down a cop-shop.

#11 dohdough   Sum Dum Guy CAGiversary!   6860 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 06:07 PM

Ehh...that argument is a two way street though. How many professions have you put your life in danger by willingly and continuously confronting some of the worst scum in the country?

 

That doesn't excuse what happened here in any way. But the the way in which our society decides to "protest" now isn't right either. What we're seeing is the equivalent of a toddler kicking, screaming, and throwing a tantrum to get what they want. Even if they had a point, you can't give in to it because it just reinforces that that behavior gets results.

 

But that's how stupid we are as a country now. We have people in power who don't know how to act and people in the streets who don't know how to act. This is a sinking ship, folks. Might as well cue up the band.

No it doesn't go both ways. We've already established in the other thread that the chances of getting killed as a cop is highly unlikely considering the volume of encounters. Unless every cop is meeting the worst scum of the earth every time they walk up to someone, I don't see how any reasonable person can make that argument with a straight face. It's a total false equivalence.

 

Most people also seem to conflate protesting with rioting without thinking about the ratio. For someone that bitched about media portrayal previously, your opinion on the matter sure does seem shaped by it. I doubt the news channels are highlighting the protesters that are marching peacefully or trying to mitigate violence or even the cops instigating violence.

 

There is no such thing as having a 100% non-violent movement for social change especially when it comes to race. It never existed. People LOVE to throw fanservice on MLK, but he had Malcolm X and others forcing the issue. The same with Ghandi; he had anti-colonialists fucking shit up. The only thing being non-violent does is making it easier for those in power to Fuck you up.

 

If being non-violent and going through the system worked, we wouldn't have people acting "infantile." Which is a word I'd use to describe some people's "reasoning" behind those types of statements. Believe me, there's an entire army of people trying to do things the "right" way.

 

edit: Passive aggressiveness aside(mine), there's a reason why there's so much focus on the violent aspects and that's because it benefits those in power(political or economically) to do so. It helps them to put a burning cop car with black people running around on every form of media because it makes it easier for those to speak out in the power elite's interests as opposed to showing the street workers that pound pavement everyday trying to make their communities a better place. Even then, people will use that example to dismiss legitimate grievances of people that act out by not seeing how the problems are bigger than those actors.



#12 RedvsBlue  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 06:40 PM

So let me get this straight, a few bad apples in the police department? We say they don't represent the whole group. Some rioters go looting and pillaging? Well then anyone protesting is clearly just trying to destroy their entire neighborhood.

Oh, and just for the record I oppose the over-generalization in both applications.

#13 dohdough   Sum Dum Guy CAGiversary!   6860 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 06:46 PM

I see you camoor...I SEE YOU! :lol:



#14 UncleBob  

Posted 28 April 2015 - 08:59 PM

For the record, to clarify my earlier comment - it was solely in regards to those who are engaging in egregious acts of violence and trying to dress it up as protests. Those who engage in peaceful (as in non-violent) protests are always respected in my book (which I'm sure means nothing to them), regardless if I agree or disagree with the reason for their protest.

Anyone who burns down a random store because of something unrelated, then tries to say they were protesting the unrelated event (or, worse, comes up with some kind of convoluted six degrees of Kevin Bacon reasoning) - bah. Don't need you and neither do the legitimate protestors.

#15 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 10:11 PM

Its funny that police gets to commits acts of violence and then tell everyone else that its time to peacefully protest..

 

Pretty sure people should be outrage at the gov't when they basically almost decapitated a man in police custody and all these cops get is a nice long PAID vacation....  Remember the CEO who kicked his dog in the elevator, well he was fired WITHOUT pay and was ARRESTED and brought to court !!! 

 

Guess a dog have more rights to respect by our gov't then humans

 

This is how disgusting our police force and gov't have in viewing human lives.

 

You got to be kidding me right ???



#16 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 10:16 PM

Don't worry peace is always the way !!!  Is that why our gov't is using force all around the world instead of negotiating peacefully with other gov'ts we don't like?

 

Is Obama and our gov't negotiating peacefully with ISIS

 

Why is it the outrage over protestors who commits violence but not the bad police who do it? 

 

Just understand this :  White kids riots over stupid sports wins/loses, at least minorities riots when they have JUST cause



#17 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 10:21 PM

Want to hurt the gov't financially is to strike at all the tax paying businesses that supports that gov't, police force

 

You want to bring down a gov't, bring it down financially through their money sources ( businesses ),  no police especially even the corrupt ones ( who steal and shakedown ) will want to work for low pay.

 

So people who want to make a statement should always strike where it hurts the gov't financially.



#18 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 10:27 PM

And the main point is ALMOST all police are bad, doesn't matter if its black, white, yellow, purple, mixed, brown, red... The only color is blue and brass to them, once they wear that uniform its a pass to commits acts of crime or violence without the fear of punishment.

 

And we will never hold police accountable due to the law of necessary evil..  We will accept evil because without the evil there maybe something even worst.  So no we will never hold the police accountable no matter what  crimes they commit.

 

Cops been getting away with crimes even when video exists of them doing it, they have no fear cause they know they can get away with it.

Rodney King proved that even video won't matter, so no amount of video now will make the difference



#19 Darby27   Licensed to Dill CAGiversary!   13856 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 03:49 AM

There are some good cops, yes.  But if you are a cop and you see another cop doing something bad/wrong, and you say/do nothing.  Then you are just as bad.

 

So, no, the 10,000 to 1 BS is stupid.  There are plenty of bad cops that are bad because they don't do anything about the really bad cops.



#20 UncleBob  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 04:17 AM

There are some good cops, yes.  But if you are a cop and you see another cop doing something bad/wrong, and you say/do nothing.  Then you are just as bad.
 
So, no, the 10,000 to 1 BS is stupid.  There are plenty of bad cops that are bad because they don't do anything about the really bad cops.


If you live in a poor neighborhood and see a fellow resident do something bad/wrong and you say/do nothing, then are you just as bad as your fellow resident?

#21 Darby27   Licensed to Dill CAGiversary!   13856 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 04:20 AM

If you live in a poor neighborhood and see a fellow resident do something bad/wrong and you say/do nothing, then are you just as bad as your fellow resident?

That depends.  Does what they are doing affect you in any way?



#22 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 04:44 AM

Don't worry, guys. I have decided to throw myself into researching these incidents as heavily as possible. I will be watching these two films back to back. I will report my findings when I finish.

 

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#23 UncleBob  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 07:16 AM

That depends.  Does what they are doing affect you in any way?


"In any way" is pretty broad.

I'm thinking stuff like this.

#24 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 12:23 PM

Don't worry, guys. I have decided to throw myself into researching these incidents as heavily as possible. I will be watching these two films back to back. I will report my findings when I finish.

 

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Troll  .....



#25 Finger_Shocker  

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 12:36 PM

If you live in a poor neighborhood and see a fellow resident do something bad/wrong and you say/do nothing, then are you just as bad as your fellow resident?

 

I am reminded of the stupidity of some people who continues to deflect from the real issues by deflecting ...

 

You know who RATS out those people who the police post wanted posters or when the local news runs the "we need your help identifying a suspect in the video etc etc."  ?  Let me point you to that answer... THE COMMUNITY

 

Now when the local news runs a story about how a man mysteriously has his spinal column severed while in a marked police van, do the police RAT out what really happened?   NO..

Now when the local news runs a story about how a unarmed guy gets shot in the back, do the police RAT out what really happened?  Or did they RAT out once some NON-LEO private citizen provided the video footage necessary?

I believe the first response to the media by the police was that this guy's death was justified  until that pesky private citizen video showed up

 

There you go....  good enough for you.

 

Again there will always be people like those above and in the world who will keep deflecting the real issues with posting stupid and ridiculous questions to try to take away from the real issue.  Lets see what new deflecting statement he will make...



#26 egofed   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1020 Posts   Joined 16.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 01:32 PM

Want to hurt the gov't financially is to strike at all the tax paying businesses that supports that gov't, police force

 

You want to bring down a gov't, bring it down financially through their money sources ( businesses ),  no police especially even the corrupt ones ( who steal and shakedown ) will want to work for low pay.

 

So people who want to make a statement should always strike where it hurts the gov't financially.

We are already like $19 trillion in debt not counting unfunded entitlements, I remember it was $4 billion a day federal deficit spending not to long ago....I don't think the gov't really cares about its financial solvency anymore.



#27 UncleBob  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 01:56 PM

I am reminded of the stupidity of some people who continues to deflect from the real issues by deflecting ...
 
You know who RATS out those people who the police post wanted posters or when the local news runs the "we need your help identifying a suspect in the video etc etc."  ?  Let me point you to that answer... THE COMMUNITY
 
Now when the local news runs a story about how a man mysteriously has his spinal column severed while in a marked police van, do the police RAT out what really happened?   NO..
Now when the local news runs a story about how a unarmed guy gets shot in the back, do the police RAT out what really happened?  Or did they RAT out once some NON-LEO private citizen provided the video footage necessary?
I believe the first response to the media by the police was that this guy's death was justified  until that pesky private citizen video showed up
 
There you go....  good enough for you.
 
Again there will always be people like those above and in the world who will keep deflecting the real issues with posting stupid and ridiculous questions to try to take away from the real issue.  Lets see what new deflecting statement he will make...


You're absolutely right. "Stop Snitchin'" and "Snitches get Stitches" totally aren't a thing. The fact that you specifically call people who do report stuff "RATS" doesn't mean anything at all. And there's not a single recorded case in the history of mankind of a cop snitchin' on another cop. Ever.

How could I have been so wrong all along?

#28 TheN8torious   Shhh...I'm Invisible CAGiversary!   16969 Posts   Joined 16.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 04:35 PM

Troll  .....

No. It was just a stupid joke...because at this point, the situation itself, the handling of it, and the reaction to it is so god damn stupid, that's all it deserves. When people feel like not acting like jokes, I'll stop regarding them as such.



#29 Spokker   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2211 Posts   Joined 17.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:25 PM

Its disgusting watching what their doing and the sad part is they're doing it around where they live. It started as a protest and now its just lets loot a store because the cops aren't going to stop us. Supposedly there is another "purge" happening today at another local mall. This whole situation is just hurting Baltimore financially, 10 o'clock curfew is going to really hurt downtown bars and restaurants. Its just sad.

What hurt Baltimore the most, though, was giving a private business $300 million to build a baseball stadium. They also own a hotel that lost $5.6 million last year. 



#30 UncleBob  

Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:33 PM

What hurt Baltimore the most, though, was giving a private business $300 million to build a baseball stadium. They also own a hotel that lost $5.6 million last year.


Sounds like that hotel would be a better target for the ire of protestors.

I seriously don't understand the obsession with spending taxpayer funds on stadiums, convention centers, and the like.