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#1501 pjb16   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1355 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 19 October 2015 - 03:34 AM

Not a single drop from a ton of Iron Bannering except for a cool looking Crucible ship. I'll try a little more tomorrow night and then just buy the boots and Titan mark. The drop rates are atrocious compared to previous Iron Banners.


Yea, played a ton of IB games this weekend and have got shit for drops. I finally managed to get the legendary class item as a drop, and it was level 281. Joy.

#1502 io   ... Super Moderators   25103 Posts   Joined 18.2 Years Ago  

Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:50 AM

So I went in to the Omnigul strike and farmed her last night for almost 3 hours with two of my buddies. We kept restarting the checkpoint after we would kill her before she got to the room. I would use the ShadowShot glitch to make orbs and keep her tethered, my one buddy would go Stormcaller and take out all the adds right in the front super quick then focus on Omnigul and then my other friend would go HammerBros on her and then use his Exotic Solar to push her back when she would venture too far up. At the end game once we finally stopped I had almost created 1500 orbs. 

I was bored so I decided to try this myself tonight.  Except I did it the hard way: regular Omnigul strike with randos.  Nearly every time we didn't kill her in the first room and had to finish it like normal.  But a few times we killed her in the first room and then the others wouldn't wipe. Only once did I get in on a group that knew what the deal was, but even then after about 3 kills/wipes, one guy kept staying alive and cleared everything out.   I think we hadn't killed her yet and maybe he was trying to do it solo (me and the other guy were dead).  He should have just wiped and started over.  It was pretty easy to take her down if one guy tethered and I had my hammers to throw.  But on the next turn I didn't have my super so it was harder.

 

Then towards the end I kept starting up the strike and having people leave in the beginning.  Again, I don't get that at all.  I understand why people do that on strike playlists, but why when you just selected to run that specific strike?  WTF!?  Anyway, I ended up running it with just 1 other person the last two times and after that decided to call it quits.

 

So all in all I probably killed her 15-20 times and I only got 2 legendary engrams out of it and of course no pulse rifle or warlock bond.  Oh well... Then I ran an Alak-Hul strike to test my luck (still want that Darkblade helmet) and nothing of note dropped there either.  At least the whole Omnigul strike is pretty quick now at the regular difficulty.  Each run didn't seem to take more than 10 minutes.  But if I have to do it 100+ times that way to get a drop, then, yeah, forget it ;).

 

I kept using 3 of coins at Omnigul but about half way in I noticed that the buff was still on me even after killing her at the end.  I guess she doesn't count for some odd reason?   So then I ran my Black Garden checkpoint and had an exotic pop immediately - turned into a 310 Monte Carlo.  I would have preferred a Red Death.  I may have to buy one for 150 marks and level it up.  Ugh.  I have gotten several 310 weapons but nearly all of them have been Monte Carlo or Hereafter.  RNG definitely leans towards those two.  I think the only other one I've gotten is Suros and then a Truth that came from a legendary engram.  That Truth pull was my very best RNG in Taken King so far since otherwise it would be very hard to get a heavy weapon to 310 with the lack of heavy weapon exotic engrams and my horrible Raid/NF luck.

 

I'm holding on to two 310 Monte Carlos.  If I got the Omnigul pulse rifle of course I'd make that 310.  But since that will probably never happen I might have to use them on a Red Death if I have any intention of doing Trials.  Or maybe just to upgrade my Raid pulse rifle.  We'll see about that.

 

I'm kind of burnt out on the game again.  I may just keep it to Raids this week and play much less otherwise.

 

Yea, played a ton of IB games this weekend and have got shit for drops. I finally managed to get the legendary class item as a drop, and it was level 281. Joy.

I jumped into a few last matches tonight and didn't get anything, or so I thought.  But the Titan mark was in my post.  It must have come the one time I got a mote and a blue item on the rewards screen.  I'd seen that happen before and it only showed along the side for a second when the reward screen went away and it was queuing up the next match.  I guess I just missed it this time.  You'd think they would prioritize legendaries on the reward screen.  Anyway, so I only had to go buy the boots.  I'm done with IB for now.



#1503 GLOCKGLOCK   Guardians Make Their Own Fate CAGiversary!   4411 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 19 October 2015 - 02:42 PM

Yea these drop rates were pretty poor for Iron Banana and actually I got both my Titan and Warlock marks when I was very low level.  2 or under I believe.  Also got the sidearm at around the same time.  Absolutely nothing from level 3+.  Although it is so easy to rank up now I felt like I only had to play a couple games last night to go from 3 -> 4 on my other 2 characters and I didn't even turn in the weekly bounties. 

 

Speaking of those, if I hold the completed bounties until next IB can I turn them in when it starts and then pick them up and do them again?  Don't really need the marks or IB rep right now so would be helpful to stack them for later use.

 

I am a bit burnt out this week too.  Spent entirely too much time managing inventory last night.  I can't believe I am back to that already. But I would like to run the weekly Heroics tonight if anyone hasn't done their 3 for the week.  Not even bothering with the Nightfalls.



#1504 BrolyB593   I've been here well over a decade?!? o.O CAGiversary!   7741 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

Posted 19 October 2015 - 05:25 PM

Yeah I am most certainly getting burnt out already on this game. I mean the gameplay is still fun and I do not have everything yet available but I have most of it. Hard Mode will be something to do and give me a little jolt probably but I don't know especially with Halo coming out next week and then Battlefront and Black Ops 3 later next month.

 

I did get a 300 IB SideArm the other night. That is one of two IB rewards I got total, but having it at 300 is nice. It has the bonus damage when surrounded, outlaw and I believe hammer forged. So in terms of a gun it is pretty solid for PvE I just never find myself using sidearms. I bought and boosted the IB Pulse to just shy of 300 and used it a few matches and I do like it. At least I am glad I was able to buy my cloak and pulse that was all I wanted out of IB this time around!



#1505 GLOCKGLOCK   Guardians Make Their Own Fate CAGiversary!   4411 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:39 PM

Here is a good idea of how iron banner went rewards wise:

 

https://account.xbox...ad-7c1d0ec14469

 

27-4 game and a no rewards.  Previous version of Iron Banner would have at least made sure that the guy at the bottom of the leaderboard with zero kills would have got an IB drop to troll everyone else.  At least they fixed that part of things... :beer:



#1506 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:27 PM

I managed to get some decent boots. I hit rank five just in time to buy the pulse rifle before my Internet cropped out. Have an all day appointment to get it fixed tomorrow. Thanks Frontier.

#1507 Ryuukishi   My ambitionz az a Ryder CAGiversary!   11788 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 03:46 PM

Kotaku expose on the making of Destiny:

 

http://kotaku.com/th...tiny-1737556731

 

Interesting but not necessarily surprising. Basically it confirms what everyone already guessed, that Bungie completely scrapped the existing story, characters, and cutscenes with only months left to duct tape something together to replace it.



#1508 gotdott   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2480 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 04:20 PM

In March of 2014, Bungie rebooted Comet, sources say. The team ultimately decided to focus it around a single major map—the Hive ship that had been cut from vanilla Destiny—as well as a new public space on Mars, complete with strikes and a new raid. (That entire last Mars chunk was later cut and passed to Activision subsidiary High Moon Studios to develop for Destiny’s full-sized 2016 sequel, a source said. They’re helping Bungie make the game.) Over the months, Bungie kept rescoping as they looked more realistically at what they could do, and the final version of The Taken King—the one that shipped last month—wound up focusing solely on the Dreadnaught.

 

 

Explains the heavy Cabal focus in TTK



#1509 Ryuukishi   My ambitionz az a Ryder CAGiversary!   11788 Posts   Joined 14.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 04:39 PM

I'd be really interested to learn what specifically was so bad about the initial story structure. Even if it did have problems, I wonder if anyone at Bungie still thinks it was a better idea to scrap it and start over without enough time to replace it.



#1510 Sinfulfate   The Podfather CAGiversary!   1257 Posts   Joined 13.1 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 04:47 PM

I got flawless raider last night. On our first attempt we made it to crota in 20mins but our sword guy ended up dying. Took us 3 more hours before we finally got it. Now I just need to fully upgrade a warlock subclass and beat Kings Fall on Hard to have all the achievements.

 

Once I get all the achievements I think I'm gonna be done with this game. Now that the taken king expansion has been out for over a month the game feels like its back to where it was a year ago. There is nothing to do to progress once you reach endgame(295+) except raid which you can only do once a week per character and even then the chance to get something useful is all random.  This game doesn't have enough end game content to warrant locking 300+ gear and weapons behind the once a week raid, I don't understand how Bungie doesn't realize this. 



#1511 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 04:54 PM

I think my plugging away slowly has helped me. I haven't looked for the fastest way to level my light and don't always have time to commit to a raid. I still have quests to do and it has greatly extended the life of the game for me.

#1512 gotdott   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2480 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 06:30 PM

someone found it

 

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#1513 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:06 PM

someone found it

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Looks like the quest is triggered by doing the ghost quest from a few weeks back. Can't wait to see if I have the quest when I get home.

#1514 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:09 PM

... And looks like I'll be heading back into the vault of Glass.

#1515 BrolyB593   I've been here well over a decade?!? o.O CAGiversary!   7741 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:13 PM

No Time to Explain seems like a decent PvP gun too. 

 

I am getting really effing sick of Destiny and its BS RNG. For 3 nights now I have farmed the Omnigul Strike killing her before the boss room and so we kill her once every few minutes. I have put in over 12 hours at least doing so and it was made much more doable with the ShadowShot glitch. Literally every person who has helped me has gotten the Pulse and the Warlock bond basically. The other night my one buddy got 4 of the Pulse Rifle total (counting the one from the night before) and was able to pick the most perfect roll of them. io and others too were helping and got the Pulse and the Bond no problem whereas I finally just got the bond last night at 10 hours in total. Still no Pulse Rifle though and now with the ShadowShot glitch gone farming that will be much more difficult. I am freaking floored at how BS it is that I could be doing it that much and never get it while left and right everyone else in the group has been each night.

 

 

*edit*

 

I just read the actual patch notes and they just removed quiver for now... that means I have even less desire to touch PvP now that you killed the super for my character. Titans can get about 10 kills with their super and then now with quiver gone Nightstalkers can literally get one kill per super. Awesome. I know it is temporary but it just pissed me off and then pair it with what I said above that now I cannot farm for the gun I should have been awarded long ago and just ugh.

 

Also those Nightfall reward changes are pointless. Anyone who Raids regularly does not need a new ghost that maxes at 300 and then why the hell would they increase the Legendary drop rates when we are playing for Exotics? It is considered a crap prize to me if I get a legendary because that means I got a few Legendary Marks only. Getting Strange Coins can be used to buy exotic engrams or more three of coins and obviously three of coins means more exotics. I would much rather have those. Ugh. This game is really pissing me off lately.

 

Is Halo out yet?

 

*edit x2*

 

Apparently Reddit is saying that the drops on the Nightfall have a chance to drop higher than 300? That is something worth while then, though I wouldn't be surprised if this was not their intention and they will patch it to cap at like 300 or something.



#1516 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:17 PM

No Time to Explain seems like a decent PvP gun too.

I am getting really effing sick of Destiny and its BS RNG. For 3 nights now I have farmed the Omnigul Strike killing her before the boss room and so we kill her once every few minutes. I have put in over 12 hours at least doing so and it was made much more doable with the ShadowShot glitch. Literally every person who has helped me has gotten the Pulse and the Warlock bond basically. The other night my one buddy got 4 of the Pulse Rifle total (counting the one from the night before) and was able to pick the most perfect roll of them. io and others too were helping and got the Pulse and the Bond no problem whereas I finally just got the bond last night at 10 hours in total. Still no Pulse Rifle though and now with the ShadowShot glitch gone farming that will be much more difficult. I am freaking floored at how BS it is that I could be doing it that much and never get it while left and right everyone else in the group has been each night.

You going to give up? I don't have either so I'd love to give it a try if you're doing it again. Maybe you'll give my horrible luck back to me...

#1517 Fearia   I'a Cthulhu! CAGiversary!   1289 Posts   Joined 13.7 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:33 PM

Kind of laughable. So, your super now has to be strategically placed (like Titans striker fist)to get multiple kills, but blade dancer still works like titan hammer at shorter range. I love the hunter QQ.

#1518 BrolyB593   I've been here well over a decade?!? o.O CAGiversary!   7741 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:37 PM

You going to give up? I don't have either so I'd love to give it a try if you're doing it again. Maybe you'll give my horrible luck back to me...

With the ShadowShot glitch patched it is really hard to pull off the farm now. We would need at least 2 Nightstalker Hunters to keep her tied down and tons of heavy synths and exotic swords. Buh.



#1519 gotdott   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2480 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:38 PM

Yes you can get 310 items from the NF now or like 20 coins. Totally worth the 3x.



#1520 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:56 PM

Yes you can get 310 items from the NF now or like 20 coins. Totally worth the 3x.

I will be waiting for my invite at the boss. ;-)
At least now my weapons are better so I might actually take down some enemies.

#1521 GLOCKGLOCK   Guardians Make Their Own Fate CAGiversary!   4411 Posts   Joined 15.9 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 08:51 PM

Yea the Omnigul farming isn't efficient now with the shadowshot nerf.  I doubt you would want to go back to running the full strike to get 1 kill every 10-15 minutes vs 1 every 3-4 minutes before.  

 

Is that weapon really that good?  I can barely farm these planetary materials for the other 2 exotic swords let alone keep playing a strike for a RNG weapon drop.  At least when you farm exotics with 3oC you know you will get an engram eventually maybe (and probably have it turn into a 290 Last world, lol)

 

So the Hard mode raid drops the normal mode gear as well and doing normal first won't lock you out of hard mode drops.



#1522 BrolyB593   I've been here well over a decade?!? o.O CAGiversary!   7741 Posts   Joined 15.6 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:02 PM

Is that weapon really that good? 

Like I said if I can get another Hunter to run it with me at least and the three of us all have swords and syths it is possible just not as easy.

 

And in terms of the gun it has I believe the fastest time to kill of any primary right now. Plus if you can get a solid set of perks on it then it is even more amazing. I have put almost 15 freaking hours in, I feel like if I don't keep farming and get it eventually then all that time would have been for nothing. Bah humbug.



#1523 gotdott   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2480 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:48 PM

Reddit consensus is that it's the Y2 Black Hammer condensed into a pulse rifle



#1524 io   ... Super Moderators   25103 Posts   Joined 18.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:21 PM

Reddit consensus is that it's the Y2 Black Hammer condensed into a pulse rifle

What?  Well, that would depend on the perks.  Edit: Oh wait, you are talking about the No Time To Explain...

 

As for Grasp of Malok, like Broly said (and I feel really bad about this), I got one last night after he asked me to come in and help when another guy left.  I got it after about 5 tries ;).  Then I got another about an hour later.  And I got 3 Warlock bonds.

 

Unfortunately the rolls on mine are pretty much crap.  Both have the increased handling when health is low, which is OK I guess.  But then the second perks are the shooting from cover one and grenadier.  Ugh.  One of Broly's friends got glass half full (bottom half of magazine does more damage) and, what, Outlaw along with that?  And he had another with Third Eye.  Plus I think both had Perfect Balance in one of the mutli-slots.  I didn't get anything close to that.  I haven't tried it out in PvP yet but it shoots damn fast.  During the farming I also managed to push my weapon parts from about 5 to 149 so it was worth it for that regardless.

 

So for this new exotic Pulse rife, I never did the ghost mission thing.    Is that back up today?



#1525 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:26 PM

I think it is today's daily. If you do it today you won't get the quest until tomorrow from what I've read.

#1526 io   ... Super Moderators   25103 Posts   Joined 18.2 Years Ago  

Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:37 PM

I think it is today's daily. If you do it today you won't get the quest until tomorrow from what I've read.

I guess no one knows for sure - but what I'm seeing is you have to wait until the next time it is the Daily.  I suppose people are just basing that on how it worked for people who got it last time.  But if they just "turned on" the quest now it could jus be a matter of waiting for tomorrow or reset or something.

 

Blah - tonight is Raid night.  Why they gotta do this on reset day?  I can't waste my whole afternoon getting these stupid ghosts.  I think that's why I didn't do it last time.



#1527 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:39 PM

I guess no one knows for sure - but what I'm seeing is you have to wait until the next time it is the Daily. I suppose people are just basing that on how it worked for people who got it last time. But if they just "turned on" the quest now it could jus be a matter of waiting for tomorrow or reset or something.

Blah - tonight is Raid night. Why they gotta do this on reset day? I can't waste my whole afternoon getting these stupid ghosts. I think that's why I didn't do it last time.

Getting the ghosts is easy. The final boss is a bit of a tough encounter. Definitely bring a fireteam.

#1528 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:09 PM

I'm going to be starting the quest soon if anybody wants to run together.

#1529 pjb16   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1355 Posts   Joined 14.7 Years Ago  

Posted 21 October 2015 - 12:31 AM

I'm going to be starting the quest soon if anybody wants to run together.


If you're still looking, I'll join you.

#1530 Renegade Moose   The cake is a lie. CAGiversary!   1069 Posts   Joined 18.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 01:20 AM

If you're still looking, I'll join you.

Sorry, I was in the middle of running it with a group. The last mission is tough. If you need help in your fireteam and I'm still free I can try to help out. There are unlimited minotaurs just pounding you constantly.