George Zimmerman is NOT a racist? You conservatives are full of sh*t

You should really think about changing your name and avatar to something that doesn't scream "I'm a 12-year-old going to Catholic school."

 
He's not wrong about Zimmerman, though. Dreadful human being. The guy who painted a confederate flag for a "no Muslims allowed" gun shop is accusing Obama of being racist? Hoo hoo, that's a laugh. Also, it's on public record that the man is more Pee-Wee Herman than Chuck Norris when it comes to hand-to-hand combat. He's nothing without a gun. Hell, he's just nothing.

 
Finger_Shocker said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/zimmerman-slams-racist-obama-va-news-crew-killings-article-1.2338297

This is the same guy you said wasn't motivated by hate when he followed, tailed and stalked a black teen before getting into a fight and gunning a unarmed teen down.

Face it if Martin was white he wouldn't have "assumed" anything bad about him
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So are we going on record stating that minorities can be racist? Because Zimmerman is about as white as.... Obama.

 
Yeah, Zimmerman's race isn't important - it's his skin color... something, something, lighter than a paper bag something.
 
So what? He can be a racist piece of shit and still not be guilty of murder. If I follow you and say mean things to you, you still don't have the right to turn around and beat the shit out of me. This many years later and you still don't understand what the verdict was based on.

 
n8rockerasu said:
So what? He can be a racist piece of shit and still not be guilty of murder. If I follow you and say mean things to you, you still don't have the right to turn around and beat the shit out of me. This many years later and you still don't understand what the verdict was based on.
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Here's the thing, holmes: Just about all the shit that he's done since getting acquitted, kinda leans on the side of him being a racist asshole with impulse control issues when angered along with having violent tendencies, which is exactly the kind of stuff that his detractors have been talking about since the beginning. You say that you can verbally harass me and I can't beat the shit out of you for it? I'm totally down with that to the point where it turns into assault, but there is zero actual proof of that being all that happened that night and Zimmerman's story is as credible as a $3 bill. All facts are pointing towards Zimmerman's "reconnaissance" being motivated by Martin being black. Hyperbole aside, FS is right.

As for the verdict, it was anything BUT cut and dry. I'll give you points for effort though. GBAstar doesn't even try anymore.

 
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Here's the thing, holmes: Just about all the shit that he's done since getting acquitted, kinda leans on the side of him being a racist asshole with impulse control issues when angered along with having violent tendencies, which is exactly the kind of stuff that his detractors have been talking about since the beginning. You say that you can verbally harass me and I can't beat the shit out of you for it? I'm totally down with that to the point where it turns into assault, but there is zero actual proof of that being all that happened that night and Zimmerman's story is as credible as a $3 bill. All facts are pointing towards Zimmerman's "reconnaissance" being motivated by Martin being black. Hyperbole aside, FS is right.

As for the verdict, it was anything BUT cut and dry. I'll give you points for effort though. GBAstar doesn't even try anymore.
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Again, so what? That still has nothing to do with evidence related to the specific crime for which he was being charged. And it certainly doesn't prove him to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

We can't go around convicting people of murder because we think they're a bad person.

Should he be profiled, classified as a potential threat to society, and monitored closely? I'd be on board with that. I'd be fine with taking away his right to carry a gun too. But I feel that way about most people with documented mental health issues.
 
dohdough said:
Here's the thing, holmes: Just about all the shit that he's done since getting acquitted, kinda leans on the side of him being a racist asshole with impulse control issues when angered along with having violent tendencies, which is exactly the kind of stuff that his detractors have been talking about since the beginning. You say that you can verbally harass me and I can't beat the shit out of you for it? I'm totally down with that to the point where it turns into assault, but there is zero actual proof of that being all that happened that night and Zimmerman's story is as credible as a $3 bill. All facts are pointing towards Zimmerman's "reconnaissance" being motivated by Martin being black. Hyperbole aside, FS is right.

As for the verdict, it was anything BUT cut and dry. I'll give you points for effort though. GBAstar doesn't even try anymore.
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So I can use the violent actions of Mike Brown caught on video to predict his behavior during his shooting? And GBAstar is correct, anybody can be racist if you use the dictionary definition of the word and not Doh's "make it mean what I want it to mean" interpretation. We had a debate about it a while back. He disagreed with the Meriam Webster definition.;-)
 
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Again, so what? That still has nothing to do with evidence related to the specific crime for which he was being charged. And it certainly doesn't prove him to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Because it's more complicated than the "specific crime he was being charged with." Especially since murder was the highest charge and covers all lesser crimes involving killing someone.

We can't go around convicting people of murder because we think they're a bad person.
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See above and it happens all the time. We even execute them! And on LESS evidence! Reducing it to the point of removing all context is the absolute worst way to look at it.

Should he be profiled, classified as a potential threat to society, and monitored closely? I'd be on board with that. I'd be fine with taking away his right to carry a gun too. But I feel that way about most people with documented mental health issues.
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You know what's funny? I actually don't agree with the first part here. Ideally, if he hasn't done anything, then he shouldn't be harrassed by local cops or followed until he starts fucking up. Too bad he can't help himself!(Which is kinda the point of FS making these types of posts/threads)*hint hint*

Not to mention that because of all the hijinx Zimmerman can't keep himself away from, maybe the shooting wasn't actually justified, huh? Or maybe it didn't play out the way Zimmerman said it did.
 
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So I can use the violent actions of Mike Brown caught on video to predict his behavior during his shooting? And GBAstar is correct, anybody can be racist if you use the dictionary definition of the word and not Doh's "make it mean what I want it to mean" interpretation. We had a debate about it a while back. He disagreed with the Meriam Webster definition.;-)
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Nice to see you back! Maybe you can look up the word "context" and learn how to apply it to everyday life! Like putting out an electrical fire with water!
 
So the narrative switched from "Zimmerman's not racist! Quit race-baiting!" to "Wait, he is racist? Well, so what?"

it astounds me that on top of him murdering an unarmed child, despite everything he's done since then people are still willing to defend him. That really paints a bad portrait of the kinds of people that a lot of conservatives are willing to go to bat for.

I'd say I'm surprised, but look who's leading in the polls in the GOP race.

 
Again, after this tweet from his own mouth.

Do you right wing conservatives still believe Zimmerman was never/nor ever hold/held racist views?  Do you still say Zimmerman isn't a racist?

 
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So the narrative switched from "Zimmerman's not racist! Quit race-baiting!" to "Wait, he is racist? Well, so what?"

it astounds me that on top of him murdering an unarmed child, despite everything he's done since then people are still willing to defend him. That really paints a bad portrait of the kinds of people that a lot of conservatives are willing to go to bat for.

I'd say I'm surprised, but look who's leading in the polls in the GOP race.
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It's a bit of a tangent but your point about the kinds of people conservatives will go to bat for reminded me of Mike Huckabee defending Josh Duggar...
 
"Go to bat for", and simply observe that reasonable doubt exists with an eye witness are two very different things. I do not know anything about the Duggars. Reality TV is ridiculous to watch to me. Go out and be the star of your own show.;-)
 
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"Go to bat for", and simply observe that reasonable doubt exists with an eye witness are two very different things. I do not know anything about the Duggars. Reality TV is ridiculous to watch to me. Go out and be the star of your own show.;-)
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He freely admitted to it, his sisters came forward as the "unnamed victims", there's very little "reasonable doubt" to be had...
 
I don't want to put words in ego's mouth, but I'm pretty sure the first part of his statement regarding "reasonable doubt" was with regards to Zimmerman (as the 'going to bat' comment was made before Duggar was inserted into the conversation).  Ego then switched tracks when he stated he didn't know anything about the Duggar situation.

 
Thanks, Bob. Indeed you interpreted my comment correctly. Sounds like the Duggar guy is a piece of crap with plenty of evidence to back that claim up. Zimmerman had supporting evidence to back up his story including an eye witness. I may not want to have the guy as a neighbor, but I do want him to receive the same protections and execution of legal procedures as  every other citizen. The idiots who back people like Mike Brown or Josh Duggar before getting all the facts annoy me, the bigger idiots who STILL back them after contradicting evidence is shown just sadden me. A Mike Brown memorial and parade? For real? He is on fricking video displaying his pure thuggish criminal personality! Make him a martyr and example of a false narrative police brutality agenda? Weak minded fools.....

PS: Doh, I threw that "dog whistle" in there just for you. :whistle2:

 
Hmmmm so does that justified getting murdered by Presidential-sanctioned military actions, a President who was elected by a racist laden country?

We have a majority of (voting) citizens who throw their support behind a man who abuses his power to kill hundreds of innocent men, women, and children and no one here bats an eye (unless that president has an (R) behind their name), yet when a police officer *possibly* does the same tbhing once, we riot in the streets.
 
UncleB... Why do you hate America, if you hate America you should leave....  We get to make the rules because my guns, bible and my god, says I'm in the right and its my god who is superior, that's why !!  So now I'm going to have sex with my daughter while I fight against them homosiixualls and them guay people who want to marry, who want to destroy them white race with all them abortions, those baby killas, cause my god say them are wrong.  I will take my guns and tell you to nutta thread on me...  So America is the best .. Yeee Haww you American hating commie, Islam loving socialist .

Well all joking aside ...lol  , I agree with you, because America is a selfish nation with me me me, and are only self-interested in their own lives, we have no "worldview" like most people in the world.   The reason why we go around killing people is because of American self-decline morally, ethically and Constitutionally, which don't give much hope for our future.  So enjoy your life, America's life is coming to a end soon, just like Greece and Rome.

But who give em fark as long as we hating them gays and all, that will keep us busy :D

 
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Since you are unable to form a understanding of such matters, let me baby step it for you

Racism is AGAINST the law

People who are charged with LAW ENFORCEMENT ( keyword pay close attention very close attention to this word ) are systematically and institutionally breaking the LAW

A person who pledge to UPHOLD THE LAW,  turns a blind eye or condone even probably approves of such law-breaking

Makes him as evil as the police department he works in

Those who turn a blind eye to evil are part of the evil itself

So sorry Wilson is as much evil as the institution he works for and accepted the evils that went on there.

If Wilson can't be held accountable for the police dept. he worked for, why did our gov't PUNISH and HELD accountable everyone who worked for Bernie Madoff even his farking secretary ? 

 
Racial profiling and Hate ( race based ) Crimes aren't against the law, wow Uncle B you sure know America ;)

Maybe you should leave America since you don't even know the law of the land ... just saying

 
Finger_Shocker said:
Racial profiling and Hate ( race based ) Crimes aren't against the law, wow Uncle B you sure know America ;)

Maybe you should leave America since you don't even know the law of the land ... just saying
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That's not what you said.

And do you have any proof that Wilson was a racist and that race influenced his decision to shoot Brown when Brown was charging him?

 
Do you trust people with criminal tendencies, or people who have a history and known history of not being a law abiding person?

Well if Wilson was such a GOOD Law Enforcement Officer, wouldn't he be responsible to uphold the law whereever there was law breaking, seems like he not only condone but was immense in the racist laden police dept he serve.  Did he report wrong doings as what LEO suppose and are required by their SWORN duty to do ( NO ), so one can assume Officer Wilson wasn't really a good cop. 

So if Wilson is known to not follow the law or have contempt for certain laws once can assume he is not really a "good" law officer in fact he is part of the problem.

 
Not to mention being a typical racist conservative too, love his Muslim rant ...

Can't wait to see what he would of said if his ex went for a black guy instead

 
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