They was standing right in front of us with a shopping cart packs with stuff with 4 cases of heineken beer under the cart. All of a sudden the husband starts pulling the beer of of the cart and placing it on the checkout belt (you know the stores that have the lines next to each other) He then hands his wife the food stamp card. Since noone was in the other lane he was able to go first and his bill was a little under 100 bucks and takes out his wallet and pays with cash.. Sorry but if you can waste 100 bucks on beer there is no reason why you should be on food stamps.
So i see a man and his family using a food stamp card at the store.
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You should've fought 'em
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Oh slidecage, you never disappoint.
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Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) Eligible Food Items Last Published: 07/18/2014
Households CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:
Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
What is slidecage whining about? It sounds like the family above votes Republican, which is exactly the party we need to have in power to save this great country. Who will cut their benefits to buy beer? Republicans.
Households CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:
- Foods for the household to eat, such as:
- breads and cereals;
- fruits and vegetables;
- meats, fish and poultry; and
- dairy products.
- Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.
Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
- Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco
- Any nonfood items, such as:
- pet foods
- soaps, paper products
- household supplies
- Vitamins and medicines
- Food that will be eaten in the store
- Hot foods
What is slidecage whining about? It sounds like the family above votes Republican, which is exactly the party we need to have in power to save this great country. Who will cut their benefits to buy beer? Republicans.
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It's the tired old argument that people on any kind off assistance shouldn't buy ______ because they should spend that money on food first. Basically, people who are poor shouldn't be able to enjoy life at all until they're not poor.
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Maybe the guy collected money for a party or something rather than spending $100 out of pocket. Maybe he's going to resell the beer for $200. Maybe he's just a guy who spends $100 on beer and would do so whether he was on SNAP or not but at least this way his kids can eat something besides empty beer bottles. Maybe you should have pointed him at some cheaper beer or bought him a home brewing kit so he could become self-sufficient. Give a man a beer versus teaching a man to brew and all that.
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4 case of hinies for under 100, what place is that, did you tell him he getting ripped off to
Did you report the business for price gouging ?
Did you report the business for price gouging ?
I dont get food stamps or any aid and cant afford it so dont know what the
your saying they poor should not be able to enjoy life. so they Get aid and are allowed better then then Those who work, Yea right that is what is ed up with this country.Just like this bullshit new insurance.. O by the poor now get free health care while the people who work for a living get
ed up the ass and lose theirs cause they cant not afford it. My insurance went from 285 (2014) to 370 (2015) and was told its going to 550 a month. Called them up and go i cant afford that can i get cheaper insurance and they go NO you do not qualified for anything cause i ed up my back 2 years ago (still work) they said if i change my plans noone will cover my bills if i have to go back for my back.Just like these
ing free phones.. O you get 500 mins plus FREE TEXTING. Guess what working people have to pay for texting, i know most dont know what that means cause you get your phones free from the goverment. Hell they are even teaching classes in high school how to sign up free stuff and never work a day in your lives.Just wait and see how
ed up this world will be in 10 to 15 years when little 8 year old jimmy is now 18 to 21 and told to get a job, what the you mean get a job my mommy and daddy never worked a day in their lives so why should I. Hell its already happened nowGrammar and typing skills, now that's what's wrong with this country.Yea right that is what is
As has been said before on this board, when it comes to your political enemies, look up, not down... Those SNAP benefits you're so concerned about are a drop in the bucket compared to the greed in big business and corporate welfare.
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Oh, come on. Donald Trump has never taken advantage of any financial loopholes in his life... He's going to fix this country. Geez...don't you know ANYTHING?
Donald Trump is the poster child for building yourself up from nothing. He only took a "small loan" of $1 million (adjusted for inflation that's a paltry $6.8 million) to get where he's at. It's the American Dream that we can all live.Oh, come on. Donald Trump has never taken advantage of any financial loopholes in his life... He's going to fix this country. Geez...don't you know ANYTHING?
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Unless you're a low energy loser.
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So I see a 4.5 BILLION dollar balloon that got loose and floated away in PA before being shot down.
I wonder how much that 4.5 Billion could of helped instead of being used to spy on Americans for no good reason at all
Who knew that violating the 4th amendment was so cheap, I thought our rights were "priceless"
I wonder how much that 4.5 Billion could of helped instead of being used to spy on Americans for no good reason at all
Who knew that violating the 4th amendment was so cheap, I thought our rights were "priceless"
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The blimp was part of the NORAD tracking system.
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look at the billions the debates are raking in, where is all of that money going... They should not even have debates until like june or july of 2016. Hell the people running could be dead by then.... ummmm wondering who is knocking at my door at 2am in the morning LOL
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They shouldn't have debates for elections held from January through May 2016 until June or July 2016?
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How about no debate for republicans ever....lol
They should be regulated to fox news to complain and bitch from the side while they watch the world be runned by actual reasonable humans
They should be regulated to fox news to complain and bitch from the side while they watch the world be runned by actual reasonable humans
no for president, i dont see a single reason why the debates need to take place before summer of 2016
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Have you ever heard of primaries?
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Because it divides the voters. You think having a President that 48% of the people don't want is bad?
What do you think a President that 75% of people didn't vote for would look like?
bush
really though almost all presidents probally 75% of the people didnt vote for win..
I mean if your group as ABCD and you pick D and A wins
the other ground has EFGH and their H wins
A vs H your going to vote for A Cause they are on your side even though you would never voted A for president in the first place
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Yes, for the most part you're right...and that's just how politics (and really, democracy) works. It might not be 100% representative of EXACTLY what each person wants, but in general, the goal is to get a majority opinion.
Electoral College and all of its nonsense notwithstanding, what you're proposing sets up a scenario like this:
5 Candidates (A-E)
A: Receives 20% of vote
B: Receives 20% of vote
C: Receives 20% of vote
D: Receives 18% of vote
E: Receives 22% of vote
So, Candidate E ends up winning when 78% of the votes cast were not for that candidate. At that point, we might as well just crown Miley Cyrus our Queen and call it a day.
Electoral College and all of its nonsense notwithstanding, what you're proposing sets up a scenario like this:
5 Candidates (A-E)
A: Receives 20% of vote
B: Receives 20% of vote
C: Receives 20% of vote
D: Receives 18% of vote
E: Receives 22% of vote
So, Candidate E ends up winning when 78% of the votes cast were not for that candidate. At that point, we might as well just crown Miley Cyrus our Queen and call it a day.
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Anyone who disagrees with this or pretends not to get what you're saying is either delusional, disingenuous, or just flat out stupid. Anyway, this has been my first and last time in the section that I didn't even know existed on this site before today. Political forums attract the absolute bottom of the barrel...I dont get food stamps or any aid and cant afford it so dont know what the
Just like this bullshit new insurance.. O by the poor now get free health care while the people who work for a living get
Just like these
Just wait and see how
I find it amazing that some people don't get (or choose not to) what's so ed up about the government basically paying for a guy's beer. I had a neighbor that did the same basic thing.
His wife was on WIC and all that sort of thing, yet he always, I mean always had beer. I have a picture someplace of a big trash bag he had in his yard full of nothing but his old beer cans. Beer isn't cheap, beer is not an economically wise choice for nutrition. It believe it or not, it basically is a luxury item. It's not a necessity. If you are so poor you need government assistance, you shouldn't be drinkinging beer. There's no way around the fact that the government was subsiding this, he and his wife got free stuff from the government, and he took the money he made chopping fire wood or what ever else it was he did and bought beer.
The guy was drunk a lot of the time, and this would occasionally lead to bouts of him out in the yard yelling and that sort of thing. The story doesn't end there though. He also would get drunk and crash into things. A fence, another vehicle... It didn't end there either. He'd get drunk and beat his wife. I called the police, I did what I could, but he's someone that lived with virtually no accountability. He didn't just ruin that girl's life, he ruined her parents life to (apparently somehow managed to burn their house down).
Now, obviously the government isn't to blame for all the batshit crazy things this guy did. But they sure as hell didn't need to help supply him withing beer. May be, just may be if he had to actually care for his family he'd have straightened up a bit, and if not may be his wife would have decided that not eating sucks. Instead though she was fed by the government and beaten by her piece of shit drunk husband.
ed up about the government basically paying for a guy's beer. I had a neighbor that did the same basic thing.His wife was on WIC and all that sort of thing, yet he always, I mean always had beer. I have a picture someplace of a big trash bag he had in his yard full of nothing but his old beer cans. Beer isn't cheap, beer is not an economically wise choice for nutrition. It believe it or not, it basically is a luxury item. It's not a necessity. If you are so poor you need government assistance, you shouldn't be drinking
ing beer. There's no way around the fact that the government was subsiding this, he and his wife got free stuff from the government, and he took the money he made chopping fire wood or what ever else it was he did and bought beer.The guy was drunk a lot of the time, and this would occasionally lead to bouts of him out in the yard yelling and that sort of thing. The story doesn't end there though. He also would get drunk and crash into things. A fence, another vehicle... It didn't end there either. He'd get drunk and beat his wife. I called the police, I did what I could, but he's someone that lived with virtually no accountability. He didn't just ruin that girl's life, he ruined her parents life to (apparently somehow managed to burn their house down).
Now, obviously the government isn't to blame for all the batshit crazy things this guy did. But they sure as hell didn't need to help supply him with
ing beer. May be, just may be if he had to actually care for his family he'd have straightened up a bit, and if not may be his wife would have decided that not eating sucks. Instead though she was fed by the government and beaten by her piece of shit drunk husband.
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I get the point you're trying to make...but at the end of the day, our country is just littered with shitty people. So, you're saying the father should have used his beer money to take care of his family. That's fair enough. But do you really think that's what would have happened? I don't disagree that it's his responsibility and he SHOULD have manned up, reprioritized, and taken care of his family. But all too many times...that's not what happens.I find it amazing that some people don't get (or choose not to) what's so
His wife was on WIC and all that sort of thing, yet he always, I mean always had beer. I have a picture someplace of a big trash bag he had in his yard full of nothing but his old beer cans. Beer isn't cheap, beer is not an economically wise choice for nutrition. It believe it or not, it basically is a luxury item. It's not a necessity. If you are so poor you need government assistance, you shouldn't be drinking
The guy was drunk a lot of the time, and this would occasionally lead to bouts of him out in the yard yelling and that sort of thing. The story doesn't end there though. He also would get drunk and crash into things. A fence, another vehicle... It didn't end there either. He'd get drunk and beat his wife. I called the police, I did what I could, but he's someone that lived with virtually no accountability. He didn't just ruin that girl's life, he ruined her parents life to (apparently somehow managed to burn their house down).
Now, obviously the government isn't to blame for all the batshit crazy things this guy did. But they sure as hell didn't need to help supply him with
So, do you punish the child and mother in that case? No? Ok...so you let the kid START to starve, and then you have him/her removed from the home...and put into an orphanage/foster care that is...wait for it, paid for by the government. No? Ah, I've got it. You counsel the mother and simply tell her to just leave her husband and venture off into the world on her own as a single mother with self-esteem issues...where she can't work because she has to stay home with the child...and is now on welfare.
Can you see how providing the mother and child with milk and cheese starts to become the least drastic (and least expensive) option? NONE of it is ideal. In an ideal world, people would be nice to one another, raise respectful, intelligent children, and have enough money to support themselves.
But in the real world (see also: shitty world), sometimes you have to compromise and just do the best you can. Unless you want to take the hardcore "let them starve!" extremist route (which...believe it or not, I actually respect more than the beat around the bush, not openly admit it but vote for "let them starve!" policies route), paying for milk and cheese is a lot cheaper than paying to find the kid a new home, paying for the mother's welfare, etc.
Also, just to clarify, that's not to say that the woman should stay in a home where she's being abused. But leaving should be her choice and one that she feels confident in. If she's essentially forced into it and is just running scared, it's probably not going to work out too well.
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Yeah, I know a lot of alcoholics who say "No money for beer today, I'm going to buy nutritious and healthy food instead!"
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Nope, don't have anything better to do than to pick on some schmuck getting $150 in benefits each month.
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Shit this actually made sense.bush
really though almost all presidents probally 75% of the people didnt vote for win..
I mean if your group as ABCD and you pick D and A wins
the other ground has EFGH and their H wins
A vs H your going to vote for A Cause they are on your side even though you would never voted A for president in the first place
First, I have never experienced, in anyway, shape, or form anyone actually starving in America (save someone choosing not to eat), or being even near to starvation. Malnourished? Sure, there are fat people that don't even get adequate nutrition, but the idea that not getting government benefits will equal starvation is quite a stretch. There are numerous charitable organizations, and Americans throw out a tremendous amount of food, even poor people on government benefits. It's just not realistic to suggest starvation is a likely occurrence unless someone lives in complete isolation. There's food everywhere, hell across the street from where they lived there was food growing in the wild.
The real problem, and the real thing I was trying to get at is that there's no accountability at all, no incentive for responsible choices. The government was basically saying yeah, go ahead and buy your beer, we got you covered on the rest. For instance the parents probably should be arrested for child endangerment (at least the father, he attacked her while she was holding the child). They should be held accountable, not just, it sucks but it's better than the alternative of starvation. My suggestion is something that people seem to have lost touch with, accountability and responsibility. We rarely ask that of anyone anymore, and we don't expect it. So someone is buying a bunch of beer and buying the rest with food stamps? Nothing to see here, he's just having a good time, never mind the fact that it's a terrible choice that we are paying for in more ways than one.
If you can't house, feed, cloth, or otherwise care for your child (I'm speaking to the collective deficiencies, not on an individual basis), then you should be held accountable for that. At what point do we stop paying shitty parents to do a shitty job of raising soon to be shitty kids (I saw that little kid out in the yard with a stick yelling and imitating his piece of shit dad and it was terribly upsetting), and say you know what? They're just unfit parents?
We are so far from having individual responsibilities that I don't think most people (those idiots included) even know what it looks like. Would he have made stupid choices if the government didn't prop him up? Probably, would he be in jail if the government did their job? Probably. Would that woman have made better choices if she had more accountability (I know enough about her to say yes), probably. When will people be held accountable for themselves? And, finally just to address the part about the government paying for the kid. The government is already doing that. It just so happens that they're paying really really shitty babysitters.
I feel sorry for the kid. I even felt somewhat sorry for the mother until I realized how complicit she was. But more so than anything I think there's no need for us as a society and on a government level to contribute so extensively to helping people avoid responsibility.
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Well, you take those kids away because obviously the government is better at raising kids.
think its bad now just wait 10 to 15 years the children today see their parents not working and getting everything for free so they will thnk why the hell should i get a job, They are already teaching kids in school how to sign up to get everything for free
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if i can find the papers i try to take pictures and post them not sure if i even kept them (this was last summer and it was showing people how to apply for free stuff instead of getting summer jobs. There has been many reports on many different news outlets about this.
Like i said just wait and see the will go my mommy and daddy never worked a day in their lives do you really think they expect me to work
I work in the hood at a non-profit that hires 25 teens from the neighborhood twice a year on a schedule that's slightly staggered from the school year. We get about 300 applicants and interview ALL of them. Our hires generally consist of 2-5 returning teens(edit: per site, we have 2), so that means that there are really only about 18 slots for roughly 300 kids. The sentiment of kids emulating their parents and just wanting free shit from the government is especially hilarious to me.
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Impossible to know when we generally don't hire beyond a 1.5 mile radius from each site(there are 2) and almost everyone is within 1 mile.
Most people I knew that grew up dirt poor/with parents on welfare wanted to do the best they could to NOT end up like them. It did not stop a vicious cycle though, my friend Mark is the perfect example of this. His parents were on the system, he never knew his real dad, he was moved around constantly and put on a handful of pills Drs later told him he didnt even need(His mom was using him for extra SSI money). Mark wanted to not end up like his parents but what hope did he have? Is he on the system now because he sat around watching his parents and thinking yep this is the life I want?!?!?! No Mark is struggling now because when you bounce from school to school constantly you repeat some classes and miss others, your education ends up lopsided and you fall behind. Mark is struggling now because he had 2-3 hard years just figuring out who he was because his head was so muddled from pills he didnt need. Mark is struggling now because even as a young teen he saw his future was bleek at best and never applied himself half as hard as he could. Mark is struggling now because yes his parents didnt work, but more importantly they didnt instill work effort in him. Mark doesnt work for MANY reasons.
I can understand Mark and I understand there are many many many people like him out there. People who grew up with their parents on the system and will end up on it themselves. I wish things were not this way and the beer thing does upset me. However I can be adult about this and recognize life is complicated, some people will always fall through the cracks and many of them will fall through because their parents sins not their own. What truly angers and disgusts me though is that all these people who are so judgmental and indignant that welfare kids grow up to be welfare adults are soooooo concerned.....yet they are doing the same thing to their own children. I have never in my over 30 years on the planet met a single parent who deserved their child. There is no money to invest in your kids college fund, but you bought yourself beer just like that welfare dad right? And there is no time to help your kids with their homework and read to them every night, but there is time for fantasy football and poker at a buddies, isnt there? PTA meetings and running a cub scout group, but that means missing that Nascar race you wanted to go to and giving up bowling night. I know it seems I am getting off point, but to me its all interconnected/the same. Shitty and neglectful parents do more to harm a child's future then simply seeing your parents not working. Frankly to me the OP could have summed up the topic with humans are selfish.
I can understand Mark and I understand there are many many many people like him out there. People who grew up with their parents on the system and will end up on it themselves. I wish things were not this way and the beer thing does upset me. However I can be adult about this and recognize life is complicated, some people will always fall through the cracks and many of them will fall through because their parents sins not their own. What truly angers and disgusts me though is that all these people who are so judgmental and indignant that welfare kids grow up to be welfare adults are soooooo concerned.....yet they are doing the same thing to their own children. I have never in my over 30 years on the planet met a single parent who deserved their child. There is no money to invest in your kids college fund, but you bought yourself beer just like that welfare dad right? And there is no time to help your kids with their homework and read to them every night, but there is time for fantasy football and poker at a buddies, isnt there? PTA meetings and running a cub scout group, but that means missing that Nascar race you wanted to go to and giving up bowling night. I know it seems I am getting off point, but to me its all interconnected/the same. Shitty and neglectful parents do more to harm a child's future then simply seeing your parents not working. Frankly to me the OP could have summed up the topic with humans are selfish.
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