Can we finally admit that if you are/vote REPUBLICAN, you are most likely a racist/bigoted pig?

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Close to 40% support Donald Trump

While we know republicans love to use thinly veiled words to cover their racist attitude, Donald Trump make no use of such and fully express those views without trying to hide behind "safe" words.

Can we finally admit that the Republican party as a whole are filled with racists and bigots?  Can we stop pretending that the Republican party stands for anything else. 

Donald Trump may likely be the best presidental TROLL in like forever, but he has exposed what the Republicans or anyone who vote republican stands and believes in

 
No, because making generalizations like that makes you no better than the people you're decrying as racist.

Also, almost 40% isn't even half so you're doing nothing more than stereotyping.
 
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Also, I suspect any such results are skewed by a little project chaos-like tampering. I live in a pretty Republican area and I've seen NO support for Trump. I really think him getting the nomination would be the best thing for the Democrats.
 
Age seems to play a large part in what the OP is referring to.  I don't know whether to call it outright racism or simply uninformed xenophobia, but the older generation in my district that vote Republican (I'm talking 60+ in age) have been raised in 97% or higher white populations and have an innate fear of "others," whether it be Latinos, African Americans, Asians, or any non-Christians (some here go so far as to label Catholics non-Christians).  These are the same ones who "didn't go to no college" and buy into the Republican bashing of higher education as elitist.  The majority of Trump's supporters have only a high school education, and it shows in their values.  Despite his education at Wharton, Trump acts like some New York street tough when he's stumping.

As for the younger Republican voters, I don't entirely blame them.  Some are simply single-issue voters, like most cops I know.  They're so convinced the Democratic "gun grabbers" will take away their right to own every manner of firearm imaginable they vote the way the NRA tells them to, despite Republican lawmakers doing all they can to diminish the power of their unions.  Some choose other single-issue (or related issue) socially conservative agendas like abortion or same-sex marriage to throw their support behind whatever candidate speaks strongest on those issues to them.  Some mistakenly think voting Republican makes them elite or rich by association (my one brother is this way - between he and his wife they only pull in $175,000 a year or so, but they think they're loaded so they vote for who they think is going to tax them less).  Some know nothing but white Christian privilege so they flock to the party that will perpetuate this attitude. Finally, we have the socially progressive but otherwise delusional Libertarians who vote Republican because that's how the Paul men choose to run for office.

 
No, because making generalizations like that makes you no better than the people you're decrying as racist.

Also, almost 40% isn't even half so you're doing nothing more than stereotyping.
Thats all cool...

Tho please list any other Republican candidate who don't spout some form of what Donal Trump spew but in a "nicer" way?

That might raise it close to 99% ;)

 
Give me a few reasons why you dislike Cruz and why you love candidate X.
There are countless reasons I could give from him going to religious conventions where pastors spoke of how we are supposed to be killing gays to his stance on immigration to his just flat out showing he has no understanding of the military or science at times by using completely wrong terms. However the best reason I can give to not support Cruz is that the guy is a used cars sales men. To a certain minority he can really press the right buttons and you dont necessarily see easily through his BS. However even those most prone to buying his BS see through it if they spend any time with the guy. Try to find anyone who has spent more then a few years with the guy and still likes him. Not his colleagues in congress nor people from his past. One of my favorite Ted Cruz moments was a guy he worked with in college in young republicans or some other political organization. He talked about how Cruz had issues with a lot of people but was friendly to their face so you would never know it. Well at some point during whatever campaign they were working on the robo dealers that only 3 or 4 people had access to started calling people in the middle of the night multiple times a night. They never figured out who did it but again Cruz was not just one of the people but people he had issues with were getting calls.

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but man those are tooooo many stupid and douche baggy things and none of your colleagues like you then to boot? I bet its still not enough to convince you though so I say look to the final piece of evidence. Cruz himself. Go look at youtube and there are hours and hours and hours of hilarious videos of Ted Cruz bullying his own family members. To skirt/stay within the law he cant collaborate with super pacs on his ads. What he can do is take hours and hours and hours of video and dump it online for his super pac to then use as they see fit. Among that footage is so many examples of him being a mean manipulative little shit that puts his desires before his families. I love in particular the moment his mom is embarrassed to tell a story so he prods her.

Like I said the guy is a douche and a used cars sales men....but ya know business is usually pretty good for those guys. Some people just can never see through a huckster with the devils smile.

 
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Yeah, because the party where the leading candidates include an African-American and two Hispanics are totally racist and the party with 3 white candidates fully embrace diversity.

 
Most of these candidates should be ashamed of themselves to pandering to the worst of what America has to offer. All of them are titans of industry, Ivy-leagued educated, and/or Washington elites. They constantly whine about making America great again, even when they have the power to do so each and every single day. We're supposed to applaud the latest budget agreement, after inaction stemming from the Bush era? We deserve these used car salesmen, because we don't even bother getting rid of them.

 
Yeah, because the party where the leading candidates include an African-American and two Hispanics are totally racist and the party with 3 white candidates fully embrace diversity.
Funny how you forget to mention that the ACTUAL frontrunner of the republicans is a rich white guy that embodies some of the most racist aspects of the party and is polling at about 40%, which is about 20 points ahead of Cruz and 30 above Carson and Rubio. As for the democrats, the only two that are polling with any significance are Clinton and Sanders. Yeah, they're white, but they're not promoting internment camps, religious bans, racist policies, or violence against those that disagree with their views.

Care to try again without making half truths or do you intend to jump on the bullshit train?

 
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As for the democrats, the only two that are polling with any significance are Clinton and Sanders. Yeah, they're white, but they're not promoting internment camps, religious bans, racist policies, or violence against those that disagree with their views.
Except, you know, for all those times Clinton voted to support funding our global war machine. Oh, and her time spent as Secretary of State, where we continued our 60-year policy of blowing up poor countries because 'Merica, fuck Yeah.

Clinton is really no better than Trump. Hell, she's worse than Trump - Trump never had the ability to vote for bills that paid for and lead to killing civilians in other counties. Clinton did.
Sure, by all accounts, Trump *would* have... but he hasn't (yet). Clinton has. But she gets a free pass.
 
Except, you know, for all those times Clinton voted to support funding our global war machine. Oh, and her time spent as Secretary of State, where we continued our 60-year policy of blowing up poor countries because 'Merica, fuck Yeah.

Clinton is really no better than Trump. Hell, she's worse than Trump - Trump never had the ability to vote for bills that paid for and lead to killing civilians in other counties. Clinton did.
Sure, by all accounts, Trump *would* have... but he hasn't (yet). Clinton has. But she gets a free pass.
You are stretching Bob. I think you know many Democrats, especially at this board are not giving Clinton a free pass. To most of us she is what Jeb is to the right. A life long politician who has switched her views so many times that we do not want to vote for her....yet at the same time a politican who has never done anything so horribly wrong we dislike her enough to vote for the other side. I do not think I can bring myself to vote for her and will likely stay home this year, but I get where most do not feel the same way. But saying she is the same is Trump is quite the exaggeration as is implying most of us are giving her a free pass. With the media and with far too many women she may get a free pass, but with popularity ratings regularly under 50% your statement just isnt fact based when it comes to the average voter. People neither like nor trust her and if we vote for her it will be holding our nose and grumbling about her flaws NOT with a little slip of paper in our hands saying we never considered her flaws. Again thats more then supporters of people like Trump or Cruz can say.

All that said. I will almost certainly stay home before I vote for Clinton and all her baggage. I do not trust or respect her and I think she and female politicians within the DNC and the party itself are doing women a HUGE disservice by not having Clinton fight her own fights and supporting her in such large numbers over Sanders. When something like 15/16 female Senators line up behind the historic female candidate with as much controversy as Clinton has it doesnt say we believe in her, it says look she has a Vagina too and damn do we want a women President. Especially when the one stand out is someone so respected like Warren. THOSE are the people not just holding their nose but instead giving Clinton a free pass. They should be ashamed that yes they are giving little girls a female president showing them what they can accomplish.....but at what cost? Those little girls deserve more then the first female president, they deserve role models. Clinton as the first female president would have far too many asterisk next to her name to ever be a role model.

Sigh....Clinton is going to be president....God damnit

 
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I say Clinton gets a free pass because she *is* going to get the DNC nomination. Plain and simple. She doesn't deserve it (#Sanders2016), but everything the DNC is doing is to either bolster her exposure or minimize Sanders' exposure (although, to be fair, I think a lot of what they're doing is to just minimize DNC exposure all together and let the 'Pubs continue to fucktard up the airwaves for as long as some idiot is willing to stick a mic in Trump's face.)

But, you're right - Clinton is going to be the next President. I've been saying it for awhile. Nothing short of something completely outrageous happening will change that (she's going to get the DNC nomination and no 'Pub in the top 5 would even remotely be electable in the general election - Maybe Rand Paul, if he's even considered top 5, but I really don't see him being electable).

My opinion - short of Sanders pulling off something amazing (Don't get me wrong, I disagree with Sanders on a *lot* of stuff...), frankly, I expect there to be some pretty low turn-out this year. After eight years of Bush and 8 Years of Obama, I think the general population is getting to the point where they just don't care because it doesn't matter.

As for comparing Clinton and Trump - you're right. Trump has never directly voted Federal Legislation that is responsible for killing civilians in foreign countries. Would he? I'd say likely, going by his vocal diarrhea. But we *know* Clinton has. So it is unfair to compare them.
 
IMO, Clinton and Trump may have different political platform to implement (whoever wins) according to their party beliefs. However, no matter how beautiful their speech or their proposed law. There is only same goal that is to win, power and fame.

 
IMO, Clinton and Trump may have different political platform to implement (whoever wins) according to their party beliefs. However, no matter how beautiful their speech or their proposed law. There is only same goal that is to win, power and fame.
Likely very true. Though my gut says Clinton is diluted enough on this issue to beleive everything she does she does for the best of the country, where Trump knows he is a dick. Most people trick themselves into believing a few lies in their life time because they cant handle the awful truth that they like MOST of humans are self motivated(even over family or morals).

 
It is why Sanders is my guy, because he is the only one(either side) I sense that even if I disagree with him he is still TRYING to act in my interests.  I do not agree with him on every issue nor is the canidate I would most want to hang out with. He is the one person on either side and in years though that I feel is compltly not self interested. Even people I really respected like Denis Kuccinch I still believe had fame/glory/power in SOME part of their mind. Sanders I just do not sense the smallest bit of personal NEED to be President.

 
There are countless reasons I could give from him going to religious conventions where pastors spoke of how we are supposed to be killing gays to his stance on immigration to his just flat out showing he has no understanding of the military or science at times by using completely wrong terms. However the best reason I can give to not support Cruz is that the guy is a used cars sales men. To a certain minority he can really press the right buttons and you dont necessarily see easily through his BS. However even those most prone to buying his BS see through it if they spend any time with the guy. Try to find anyone who has spent more then a few years with the guy and still likes him. Not his colleagues in congress nor people from his past. One of my favorite Ted Cruz moments was a guy he worked with in college in young republicans or some other political organization. He talked about how Cruz had issues with a lot of people but was friendly to their face so you would never know it. Well at some point during whatever campaign they were working on the robo dealers that only 3 or 4 people had access to started calling people in the middle of the night multiple times a night. They never figured out who did it but again Cruz was not just one of the people but people he had issues with were getting calls.

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but man those are tooooo many stupid and douche baggy things and none of your colleagues like you then to boot? I bet its still not enough to convince you though so I say look to the final piece of evidence. Cruz himself. Go look at youtube and there are hours and hours and hours of hilarious videos of Ted Cruz bullying his own family members. To skirt/stay within the law he cant collaborate with super pacs on his ads. What he can do is take hours and hours and hours of video and dump it online for his super pac to then use as they see fit. Among that footage is so many examples of him being a mean manipulative little shit that puts his desires before his families. I love in particular the moment his mom is embarrassed to tell a story so he prods her.

Like I said the guy is a douche and a used cars sales men....but ya know business is usually pretty good for those guys. Some people just can never see through a huckster with the devils smile.
Personally I think Cruz is not humble enough. He can be arrogant and he exploits situations for his own political gain. Perhaps he is a demagogue but then again most politicians are. Yet he is one of the better senators who at least try to defend some of the constitution. Is he my number 1 choice? No, not even close but I would rather see him win than someone like Rubio or Jeb.

I could not find any videos of him bullying his family, perhaps you can link one or two.

It is why Sanders is my guy, because he is the only one(either side) I sense that even if I disagree with him he is still TRYING to act in my interests. I do not agree with him on every issue nor is the canidate I would most want to hang out with. He is the one person on either side and in years though that I feel is compltly not self interested. Even people I really respected like Denis Kuccinch I still believe had fame/glory/power in SOME part of their mind. Sanders I just do not sense the smallest bit of personal NEED to be President.
I like Sanders because I do think he is trying to act in our best interest but he is just so wrong on the solutions to the problems. Socialism does not work and will kill the economy. Is he a dove? Here is what Viggo Mortensen said:

I mean, I wish that Bernie Sanders would be president, for many reasons. I think in many ways he speaks truth to power. But even on foreign policy, you know, I mean, he’s a person who, as a senator, has voted for every military appropriation, has voted for every, you know, resolution, pro-Israel government resolution, without question. In many ways, he’s as hawkish as Hillary Clinton is. […] [F]or all the good things he does, he’s also very hawkish and not really different than Hillary Clinton in that regard, or any of the Republicans.
 
http://twitchy.com/2015/12/26/did-bernie-sanders-just-send-the-most-economically-illiterate-tweet-ever/

Bernie needs to work on the economic side of things. He's an idiot when it comes to that.

And 90% of the feel good make people like him shit that he spouts is economically infeasible.
So the takeaway is that education has no value?

I suppose it is easier to keep a whole swath of bootlickers in line by teaching them that education carries no value... But hey, one day the economic fairy will sprinkle their magic dust on them and they'll be one of those rich people they so desperately think they'll become through hard work.
 
So the takeaway is that education has no value?

I suppose it is easier to keep a whole swath of bootlickers in line by teaching them that education carries no value... But hey, one day the economic fairy will sprinkle their magic dust on them and they'll be one of those rich people they so desperately think they'll become through hard work.
The value of a college degree is going down all the time.

And if you don't understand the difference between a secured loan and an unsecured one I feel sorry for you.

 
The value of a college degree is going down all the time.

And if you don't understand the difference between a secured loan and an unsecured one I feel sorry for you.
No, please sir explain it for me. And then we can discuss how a secured loan being viewed as a "sure thing" thus deserving a lower interest rate has never been a problem for our economy, especially not in 2008...

 
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Hey, RvB, loan me $100, would you?

In exchange, I'll let you either hang onto this rare skylander I have that sells for about $250 on eBay. Or I'll give you nothing and you can just take my word I'll pay you back.

Let me know which one of those is more agreeable to you and I'll PM you my address so you can send me the check.
 
Hey, RvB, loan me $100, would you?

In exchange, I'll let you either hang onto this rare skylander I have that sells for about $250 on eBay. Or I'll give you nothing and you can just take my word I'll pay you back.

Let me know which one of those is more agreeable to you and I'll PM you my address so you can send me the check.
No problem. I'll just need to run a credit check first so I'll be needing your full name, address, a list of your other debts, 2 months of pay stubs, and of course your social security number. Don't worry, you can trust me, I'm a lender.
 
No problem. I'll just need to run a credit check first so I'll be needing your full name, address, a list of your other debts, 2 months of pay stubs, and of course your social security number. Don't worry, you can trust me, I'm a lender.
See, now you're discriminating against me because I might not have a job and thus wouldn't have two months of paystubs to give you. This is harassment in it's finest, right here, folks. I shouldn't have to prove any ability to actually repay this debt, because doing so makes it harder for the poor, disenfranchised to get loans.
 
South Park got it right years ago...

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Actually Trey and Matt shifted their position with that Canada episode this season. If you don't care about the civic process, ie vote when you're supposed to including primaries, you ARE going to get a douche and turd sandwich, and then you deserve the insane guy on top. You know, if you don't vote, you let the crazies vote and they'll matter even more.

 
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Personally I much rather have Trump as president than another Clinton or a Bush. To me its crazy that this country essentially keeps electing the same people. 

 
While I in no way support or agree with anything I've heard come out of Trump's mouth, I'd rather have him than Clinton just because him actually getting elected and trying to do half of what he says might be the catalyst this country needs to overhaul the federal government as a whole.

Clinton will just be your average fuck up like Obama and Dubya before her, so we'll get status quo.
 
While I in no way support or agree with anything I've heard come out of Trump's mouth, I'd rather have him than Clinton just because him actually getting elected and trying to do half of what he says might be the catalyst this country needs to overhaul the federal government as a whole.

Clinton will just be your average fuck up like Obama and Dubya before her, so we'll get status quo.
Plus she'd bring along the First Rapist.
 
While I in no way support or agree with anything I've heard come out of Trump's mouth, I'd rather have him than Clinton just because him actually getting elected and trying to do half of what he says might be the catalyst this country needs to overhaul the federal government as a whole.

Clinton will just be your average fuck up like Obama and Dubya before her, so we'll get status quo.
And what would that be...?

lol... I don't support/agree w- Trump but he might be the catalyst to overhaul the federal gov't... Are you a politician?

How does one not support or agree with someone yet wants them to win and support his policies that will change the gov't for the worst

 
I don't at all support his policies.

I think if he were to get elected, the people would revolt (not necessarily in a violent manner) and demand some significant changes up top. Think "Occupy", but with purpose and an agenda.
 
And what would that be...?

lol... I don't support/agree w- Trump but he might be the catalyst to overhaul the federal gov't... Are you a politician?
How does one not support or agree with someone yet wants them to win and support his policies that will change the gov't for the worst
I've gotta admit there's a perverse part of me that wants to see him get elected. For one, I'm almost curious to see just how far a president can get with near zero congressional or party support. He's also the type of hothead that could just go on a vetoing streak for no other reason than retribution. It would be absolutely fascinating. The good news is he mostly couldn't grind the whole country to a halt because of Congress's veto override power.

The other, long game part of me would be interested in seeing him elected to see what kind of populist opposition it would drum up. Much in the same way Obama's election gave rise to that shitshow we call the tea party, there could hopefully be a rallying of support from the left with hopefully a less hypocritical, "me first" platform. The tea party might think they want Trump elected but in the long run I see it being the death knell for their movement. And that alone might make it worth suffering through 4 years of his presidency.
 
Would he make it four years?

I'd also be interested in seeing if the same types of people wh said things like "We won, you lost, suck it up" when Obama won would be so generous with their blanket support for the elected official if Trump won.

I'd like to view into an alternate universe where Trump is elected, but I wouldn't want to live there.
 
Student loans are non-dischargeable and your wages and benefits can be garnished if you default.

Unsecured? It's shooting fish in a fucking barrel.

 
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