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#361 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:23 AM

Got Ending A of Nier late last week and started the second loop today. I'm a little surprised at how far back it placed me at the start of this loop, but at least it isn't too far.

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I know this game is all about the story, and I'm definitely committed to seeing it through, but it'll probably take a while, but I do hope once I finish the second half it will hook me in a bit and I can proceed to keep beating the game for 100%.

Yeah, can't say that the actual game part of Nier is all that. The side stuff in particular ranges from dull to bad, though some of the requests are good for raising cash late in the game, and there's at least one which is worth doing for other reasons. Combat's okay, though the distance and force with which the main character is flung back whenever he gets hit with a physical attack is ridiculous. The story really is something, though, and I like the world-building and characters. Also, I need the soundtrack like burning.
 

Oh and before you touch a Ys game, let me warn you this is the starting premise of just about every single one involving Adol:
 

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Adol really is the ultimate JRPG ladies man. It's kind of ridiculous :lol:


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#362 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 24 August 2017 - 01:23 AM

Sorry for posting again so soon, but I have a quick question: is the Nier DLC worth picking up? And if so, is there an ideal time (in relation to the story/endings) when to play it?


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#363 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5233 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 24 August 2017 - 01:48 PM

I haven't played the DLC for either NieR game, but I believe none of them have any real story to them. Pretty much just arenas and costumes locked behind them. So if you do get them, I wouldn't think it matters when you actually buy/play them.



#364 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 24 August 2017 - 02:04 PM

There isn't really much story to the DLC at all. No cutscenes at least, and not much exposition. Its about the MC's dead wife, and you get sucked into a dream-world like area where you fight some new shades in 15 rooms as the younger Nier from the RepliCant version of the game. That's about it game-play wise. You get some new costumes and weapons, and a couple of other little things. I would only recommend the DLC if you really, really like the game, because there's not much to it other than the challenge.

 

It doesn't fit into the main story at all, so you can play it whenever, but it is difficult, so I'd recommend having a high level.




#365 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:19 PM

Thanks guys; will skip. I was only interested in the DLC if they added significantly to the story (the description mentioning the MC's wife got me intrigued).


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#366 JEKKI   JEKKI WOO FOO FOO CAGiversary!   7038 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 11 September 2017 - 05:00 AM

awwww yeay! Had a 3 day weekend during labor day a week ago; didnt play any Nier lol (focused on 100% puyo puyo tetris story mode). So I made up for it this week!

 

beat the game on friday evening; then powered thru NG+ to get the second ending today.

 

What I like about the Ending B route is the game doesnt adjust the difficulty; so it's a breeze to get thru as you feel kinda OP, which definitely helps coz the game still isnt fun. 

 

story's cool I guess. Shouldnt be too much work getting the last 2 endings so hopefully by next weekend I'll have this game complete!

 

other observations from this game:

 

everytime dude jumps or rolls or lands, the sound effect sounds like an approaching dog jingling their collar.

 

The menu sound effects are straight out of Silent Hill.

 

lastly, the main character is freakin Sojiro. Like the voice actor didnt even bother to act in a different voice; they're literally the same sounding person! So people who played Nier before P5 are probably like yo that guy is Nier!



#367 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 11 September 2017 - 05:15 PM

lastly, the main character is freakin Sojiro. Like the voice actor didnt even bother to act in a different voice; they're literally the same sounding person! So people who played Nier before P5 are probably like yo that guy is Nier!

Huh, I actually never noticed. My husband did recognize Weiss' voice actor right away as the guy who plays Illidan in World of Warcraft (and he also apparently voices Akihiko in Persona 3).

I have one ending left to go here; shouldn't take too long. Have really loved this whole experience, in a weird way.
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#368 Evrae  

Posted 15 September 2017 - 12:38 PM

Ys VIII feels a lot like Ys Seven which I did not really enjoy. But at least the dodge roll is no longer faster than the run speed. That's a major step forward.


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#369 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5233 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:55 PM

Ys VIII feels a lot like Ys Seven which I did not really enjoy. But at least the dodge roll is no longer faster than the run speed. That's a major step forward.

Now it's all about sprinting + jumping.



#370 Evrae  

Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:54 PM

I'm starting to notice that   :oldman:


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#371 JEKKI   JEKKI WOO FOO FOO CAGiversary!   7038 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 18 September 2017 - 03:15 AM

OK, spent my time this weekend getting thru playthru #3 of Nier.

 

Ending B was OK coz you can just power thru the game, but ending C makes the game terrible again because there's a item collection requirement to achieve, which causes the game to force you into sidequests. Not a fun time at all :(

 

fortunately, I've made it thru and am now at the final save point!

 

Not sure if I will beat it again tonite, but should easily have the game completed this week!!

 

I'm also glad that there's no need to play the game again; you can get the last 2 endings by just reloading the final save point so that's a relief!



#372 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 18 September 2017 - 04:22 AM

My own Nier update: played through the final ending on Friday (and ended up buying and playing the Recycled Vessel DLC after all, haha whoops); ordered the OST, Piano Collections, and artbook; got that first item today and ripped it; and somewhere in all that, finished rereading The Dark Id's Drakengard LP and am ready to tear into the Nier one. Nier is easily (and inexplicably) my favorite game played this year.

Next up RPG-wise will be... probably nothing until Etrian Odyssey V comes out.
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#373 JEKKI   JEKKI WOO FOO FOO CAGiversary!   7038 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 19 September 2017 - 05:29 AM

awwwwwww yeeeeeaaaaayyyyy Nier is done!

 

Cool game; but dang it took me 2 months to beat it! (started mid July). In other words, Nier is as long as Persona 5 is!!!

 

Now I really wanna play Automatic, but unfortunately that will not be for a while :(

 

So I'm finally free to start my next game / RPG - Yakuza 0!!!

 

except... there's a small handful of indie games I wanna play thru first, and one of those games is the famous Undertale.

 

other 2 I wanna play are Axiom Verge and Freedom Planet, so the next 30 hours should definitely be much more fun than the last 30 have been lol.

 

Still... Nier, worth experiencing and very happy that I did. I will now watch random youtube vids to help understand the story and world more lol. 



#374 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 September 2017 - 03:54 PM

I'm finally near the end of SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1. I could make a run on the final tower dungeon, but apparently there's several side-quest things I can do, so I guess I'll work on those and grind my characters some of the more high-level skills I know I'll probably need. I'm gonna try and focus on this game, since I've only really been playing it an hour or two on the weekends for the last few months. Try and get it knocked out and move on to the next backlogged RPG.




#375 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 04 October 2017 - 07:31 PM

And now I've beaten DDS1.

 

Honestly, I think it is harder in many ways than Nocturne. I had a lot more cheap deaths in DDS than Nocturne, and mostly against common enemies as opposed to bosses. Not to say bosses were easy. Some where frustrating, but the final boss wasn't too hard at all. I think a lot of the difficulty comes down to having a 3-man team (versus the 4 you get in Nocturne). It took me about 50-hours on my play-thru, and I'd say about 10-12 of those hours doing nothing but grinding for skills to beat the next boss. Certainly a weird-ass story.

 

But I'm done for now with DDS, and need a break from the grind, so I won't jump into DDS 2 just yet.

 

I think next I'm going to finally tackle the last game in the Suikoden main series, and complete my play of all 5 of them that I began a couple years ago. I hear 5 is one of the best, so I'm looking forward to it.




#376 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5233 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:30 PM

I finished Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth (Sequel to Mask of Deception) a few weeks ago. I love the game and the translation is pretty decent. Highly recommend it, so long as you don't mind a lot of talking/reading. With it being a visual novel first, you can go something like four hours in between a single battle only to have another two hours of dialogue until the next battle. The story was good, significantly better than most of what we get these days with JRPGs by far. The only downside for new players would be not having played the original 2002 game that was never officially localized, only fan translated. Alternatively you could watch the anime based on it that aired back in 2006 I believe. It's very connected to the two games, which makes it all the more difficult for people to get into when I recommend watching the series prior to playing it. I also did a bit of a writeup here, but in retrospect probably left out a couple things.

 

 

Also finally went through Breath of the Wild very recently too. Honestly I don't think it's even close for a game of the year contender from how people constantly rave about it like it's hot shit. I liked it, but it just did so many things poorly that I can't really give it more than a 7 out of 10. If they decide to use the open world formula again, they refine it and fix a lot of the areas they are sorely lacking in.

 

 

I really want to play Divinity: Original Sin 2, but I think I'd rather play it in co-op with someone. Though if I do pick it back up, I will likely restart even though I've probably put two hours in. I think I'd go with a premade character this time with their own story.

 

Besides that, I'm slowly working through Golf Story on the Switch. Weird little RPG that is pretty decent, but has already frozen on me once due to glitching out a golf ball in a 10 hole putting area. Maybe try out Mario + Rabbids now that I have a Switch to play on top of that.



#377 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:46 PM

Near the end of Suikoden V and hope to have it beat by this weekend. It is WAY better than IV, but man, those loading screens.....




#378 JEKKI   JEKKI WOO FOO FOO CAGiversary!   7038 Posts   Joined 13.8 Years Ago  

Posted 22 October 2017 - 08:18 AM

wazuuuuuup! I'm back! It's 1AM, apparently neogaf is dead forever, and I just beat Undertale!

 

I think the game forces the neutral ending on you during first play thru? Regardless I went thru the game blind and didnt kill anyone (except for the first major boss coz I didnt know you could spare them... just found out just now reading some faqs).

 

but yah, real good game, tho tough to play at first due to the same reasons I never got hooked to Earthbound (slow-paceyness of it).

 

But I finished it and would love to go back and explore the depth and endings of the game, but instead I'm just gonna buy the physical version and dive in all over again later. Good game so definitely worth it. 



#379 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 22 October 2017 - 05:40 PM

Not an RPG, but RPG-adjacent: I started Shin Megami Tensei: Synchronicity Prologue yesterday. It's a free metroidvania to promote SMT: Strange Journey's 3DS rerelease in Japan. Pretty well made and fun game so far, and a bit more substantial than I thought it would be. It's available here until Dec. 24, and a dialogue translation patch can be found here.

Got Etrian Odyssey V in, but don't know when I'll be able to start it. I'm fairly busy right now and with that sort of game, I'd want to have enough free time to really sink my teeth into it.
 

I think the game forces the neutral ending on you during first play thru? Regardless I went thru the game blind and didnt kill anyone (except for the first major boss coz I didnt know you could spare them... just found out just now reading some faqs).

AFAIK, it doesn't, but you have to do certain things to avoid the Neutral ending if you've spared everyone (and if you've killed even just once, boss or not, you're getting Neutral).

Anyway, congrats on beating it! I liked it quite a bit more than Earthbound, for various reasons.
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#380 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 23 October 2017 - 03:36 AM

Dang, I still need to get around to Undertale, and I would love to get EO V, but I feel like I'm drowning in my RPG backlog already. Maybe if I quit my job, I'll have more time to play....




#381 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   39865 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 23 October 2017 - 03:45 AM

Dang, I still need to get around to Undertale, and I would love to get EO V, but I feel like I'm drowning in my RPG backlog already. Maybe if I quit my job, I'll have more time to play....

I recommend it. I quit my job and life has been great.


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#382 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:38 PM

Shin Megami Tensei V is the mystery SMT game for Switch. Dammit, I still haven't gotten around to SMTIV!
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#383 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5233 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 23 October 2017 - 03:07 PM

^ And SMT IV has two games. Hopefully V won't have anything like the final dungeon of IV Apocalypse though. That dungeon was terrible.

 

I'm playing Etrian Odyssey V on the side here and there. Currently a little into the second stratum. Also playing through a little bit of Valkyrie Revolution that a friend lent me prior to Mario Odyssey's release this Friday. Man that game is bad and deserves all the bad reviews it gets.



#384 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 23 October 2017 - 03:30 PM

I considered picking up Valkyrie Revolution when it first dropped to $15 on Amazon, but I just couldn't pull the trigger. Instead, I watched some videos of it, and after seeing it in action, I think that was overpaying.

 

I got thru most of the first SMT IV, but never got Apocalypse. Your average grind-fest that SMT is known for, with cheap deaths a'plenty. I skipped a ton of the sidequest stuff and made a run for the end game.

 

I thought the SMT game announced for Switch would probably be V, but I was really hoping for Persona 5 Golden.




#385 Krymner   Yup, I think you're sexy CAGiversary!   2940 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2017 - 06:07 AM

Finally finished with Suikoden V. Very good JRPG. Almost the best in the series in many ways, but I really did not like how they did the major battles. Turn based was better. Far too often, I'd be trying to move one group out of the way, then flung to the other end of the battlefield for a far-away battle, and then the group I was trying to move away would get clobbered because I couldn't scroll back and move it in time. Just really annoying. Other than that, it was wonderful.

 

But that finally completes my playthru of the five main Suikoden games! It's a great series, and I recommend them to any fan of the genre. If I had to rank the five, I would probably go: 3>2=5>1>4. I put 2 and 5 together, because I cannot decide which is the best because I liked 2's story and major battles better, but I liked 5's characters and gameplay system (magic, skills, battle formations, etc).

 

On thing I did realize about the entire series was that they were really kinda easy. I never had that much trouble with any of the bosses or having party wipes, and in most major battles I dominated the other side. I did follow guides to make sure I recruited all 108 star characters, and some of those I would probably have missed on my own, but overall, they were cake walks.

 

All in all, great series. I'll keep an eye out for a copy of Suikoden Tactics, but its not something I'll hunt down just to have.

 

 

Now, I'm headed back into the Legend of Heroes series, and start Trails of Cold Steel 2.




#386 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 02:52 AM

Spent the past couple weekends playing Road Not Taken. It's a combination roguelike and puzzle game, and a damn good one at that.

The basic premise is that you're a ranger whose job is to rescue kids when they get lost picking berries in the winter. This may sound cutesy, and it is to a certain extent, but things go to some rather dark places the more you learn about the world. You have to complete fifteen winters' worth of rescuing kids to beat the game.

In each year, you go into the forest and match the objects in each room to progress (for example, matching four bear statues to unlock the next path) and/or make new items (match three bears, and they will turn into a bear statue). Some rooms are carefully crafted puzzles, but most seem to be randomly generated. There are over a hundred types of items and at least as many combinations, the latter of which can be learned through the villagers or by good ol' trial and error. And speaking of the villagers, there's other benefits to befriending them, such as special items and health boosts.

It doesn't take long to beat, though there's a good amount of replayabilty, thanks in part to some flexible difficulty options. Can't recommend this game enough, especially if you're looking for something a little different from the average roguelike.


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#387 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5233 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 11:43 AM

I was semi-interested in the game, but it never interested me enough to buy it. I think Europe received it in August through PS+, but not the US. So I still don't own it since I rarely ever buy PC bundles.

 

Played and beat Summon Night 6. Really disappointed in the game. Story went in circles for 80% of the game with very little to no actual story development and the translation, while readable, is very typical Vic Ireland. If you interested in a Summon Night game, play 5 instead. It's significantly better in my opinion, but still suffers from some similar things.

 

Since you mentioned Road Not Taken, I'll bring up A Hat in Time. I beat that a month or so ago and it was pretty damn good. Highly recommend the game if you enjoy 3D platformers. The game has a lot of personality to it and despite not sticking to one thing particularly long, it does what it does fairly well while being fun. Unfortunately the only real downside to it is that it's not particularly polished. I completed the game with all time pieces at around 10 to 11 hours.

 

Etrian Odyssey V is still slowly being played. I typically play those very slowly over the course of a few months. Haven't really made much progress since the last post. My main games currently are Demon Gaze II (It's alright) and the new Horizon expansion. I'm going to try and get through those so I can play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 when it comes out next week. I also need to give the Pillars of Eternity 2 beta a quick try soon as well as the SpellForce 3 Beta today before it expires.

 

EDIT: Oh, I also played Zwei on the PC when it released at Halloween. That was a pretty good game too for an older Falcom game. Characters are pretty sassy and the voice overs, while weird at times, were pretty good too.



#388 elessar123  

Posted Yesterday, 06:53 PM

I'm kinda glad this is the last main EO game. I hit a bit of a wall on floor 24, and have been stuck there for a long time. I can't upgrade gear because of how expensive everything is. Even fighting FOEs or bosses would take a dozen kills to get one piece of gear. Obviously 20 pieces of gear would be an extremely long grind.

 

XP scaling seem to be the same thing. It seems to go up exponentially in this game, making grinding a retired character or a new character up be an extremely long chore.

 

They're obviously pushing people to buy the DLC to get xp and money easily, which is putting me off.


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#389 R. Kasahara   The Artist Formerly Known as ブルー神羅 CAGiversary!   4107 Posts   Joined 11.5 Years Ago  

Posted Yesterday, 07:20 PM

Since you mentioned Road Not Taken, I'll bring up A Hat in Time.

Well, I thought Road Not Taken would fit in the scope of this thread, being a roguelike ;) A Hat in Time looks pretty interesting, but I'm very picky about 3D platformers. If it's something along the lines of the Klonoa or Sly Cooper series, or the first Jak, I may check it out.

And I still have to start Etrian V >.< Maybe after Thanksgiving; I should have a bit more free time then!
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#390 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5233 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted Today, 12:47 AM

Yeah, Etrian Odyssey always had a little grind to it but it seems to be a bit more with the latest entry.

 

Well, I thought Road Not Taken would fit in the scope of this thread, being a roguelike ;) A Hat in Time looks pretty interesting, but I'm very picky about 3D platformers. If it's something along the lines of the Klonoa or Sly Cooper series, or the first Jak, I may check it out.

It's probably closer to Mario 64/Sunshine in how the levels are designed than it is those. You switch hats that each have an ability to perform whatever you need done. Each level is quite different and having to replay them for different time pieces can sometimes drastically change everything. So you aren't always replaying the same exact area or even doing the same thing.