Jump to content


* * * * - 29 votes

Japanese Niche Games Deals & Discussion Thread 4.0


#36421 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4372 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

Posted 27 January 2023 - 06:28 PM

I looked at my completed games list for last year and I finished 2.

Last year the only game I finished was Live A Live.. and that was just the base completion for each character's story... not finishing the final story with every character (just one or two).  I did play a decent amount of Grand Mountain Adventure also but not enough to call it anywhere near complete (not that I feel I need to "complete" it).  On the plus side, I only bought 7 games for switch last year... and between then and now have played at least some of 4 of them.  The other two being DQ Treasures & Pocky & Rocky Reshrined.  So I'm feeling pretty good about my ratio of purchases to at least what I've played.

 

This year so far I haven't bought any games but I will 100% buy Zelda Tears of Kingdom as well as anything else Zelda, DQ, and Xenoblade that releases physically (for Switch) even if I don't make the time for them immediately.  I have my eyes on about 5 other releases none of which I'm sure on yet and might easily pass them all up.



#36422 Mattiful-Joe   Henshin A Go-Go Baby! CAGiversary!   3676 Posts   Joined 19.5 Years Ago  

Mattiful-Joe

Posted 27 January 2023 - 08:52 PM

I'm a physical copy-only gamer; if the game's only sold digitally, or its physical copy is fatally broken, I'm not interested.

Anyways, while I'm much more picky now with purchases, I also find I'm less and less interested in the games being made today.

As for completing my games, I've long since abandoned any belief that I'll have the time to beat even a fraction of my collection. I just don't have the time or even the energy/motivation.

I just play a game as long as I'm having fun. If it's not fun anymore, I stop. I've never felt obligated to finish a game and I definitely don't care enough to hate-play to see the end credits.

Obviously, different folks have different approaches or needs. Mine is just based on whether I'm having fun - that's the same barometer I use for buying a game. Don't care whether it'll be worth squat. If I want to play something, I'll keep an eye out and get it when it's on sale. Only games I used to ever pay full price for were Zelda and Mario, but today, won't do it for those, either (not a fan at all of botw and its open world direction). Still love the mainline Mario games, but that's about it for Nintendo, which explains why I still haven't gotten around to buying a Switch -- and at this point, will just wait to see what's next.

#36423 keyblader1985   Wait, what? CAGiversary!   4389 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

keyblader1985

Posted 27 January 2023 - 10:38 PM

To be honest I just can't get the "physical only" mentality. Don't get me wrong; I 100% understand and agree with most of the reasons for preferring physical over digital, but if a game I'm interested in is only available digitally or if the price is low enough, I'm not going to pass it up. Yeah, digital copies are never really yours and the servers will go down eventually, but physical copies are only yours as long as they're safe and in your possession (and anything can happen no matter how careful you are).

A couple years ago I was slightly more adamant about preferring physical copies. But as it is we're already headed very quickly toward an all-digital future, with whole consoles with no physical drive. I feel like if I skip out on something I want I'm only hurting myself.

#36424 Daniel_Shadow170  

Daniel_Shadow170

Posted 27 January 2023 - 11:10 PM

I finish what I really like. Dead space I bought today and 100% will finish this weekend.

I will probably never even beat 70% of my collection and I'm ok with that.

#36425 elessar123  

Posted 28 January 2023 - 02:40 AM

To be honest I just can't get the "physical only" mentality. Don't get me wrong; I 100% understand and agree with most of the reasons for preferring physical over digital, but if a game I'm interested in is only available digitally or if the price is low enough, I'm not going to pass it up. Yeah, digital copies are never really yours and the servers will go down eventually, but physical copies are only yours as long as they're safe and in your possession (and anything can happen no matter how careful you are).

A couple years ago I was slightly more adamant about preferring physical copies. But as it is we're already headed very quickly toward an all-digital future, with whole consoles with no physical drive. I feel like if I skip out on something I want I'm only hurting myself.

All things equal, I'll pick physical. When a Kecmo game is $2 digital or $40 physical, na.



#36426 bappt   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1072 Posts   Joined 17.7 Years Ago  

Posted 28 January 2023 - 05:47 AM

All the Digital Deluxe editions for the niche games I play have pretty much guaranteed I'm mostly going digital. Koei Tecmo and the Atelier series has been pretty consistent with theirs and the first mainline Neptunia game in ages locks swimsuit costumes behind one. 



#36427 Soma_Cruz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1705 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

Posted 28 January 2023 - 02:36 PM

All the Digital Deluxe editions for the niche games I play have pretty much guaranteed I'm mostly going digital. Koei Tecmo and the Atelier series has been pretty consistent with theirs and the first mainline Neptunia game in ages locks swimsuit costumes behind one. 

Sisters VS Sisters isn't another spinoff? I haven't really checked into this one yet, been used to the last few games in the series not being of much interest.



#36428 Tothoro  

Posted 28 January 2023 - 02:42 PM

I think Sisters vs. Sisters is a spin-off, though reviews indicate it's one of the better ones. Main series is just 1, 2, 3, and Megadimension unless I'm wrong (which is possible).



#36429 BoxPizzaBox   Trash Tier CAGiversary!   1558 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

BoxPizzaBox

Posted 28 January 2023 - 03:51 PM

I think about physical vs digital a lot, so I'll chime in too.

I used to be pure physical and I still understand the appeal. The most important aspect to me was losing access to my games if a store gets shut down or something. That and managing digital content on something like the Vita was asking for trouble. The download list was awful, the memory card were expensive, the backup application was time consuming.

 

Managing a physical collection is kind of a hassle for me, but in some cases digital was even more of a hassle.

 

There are the obvious arguments against physical that it rarely contains the best, or sometimes even a playable version of the game because of patches etc as well.

 

My biggest gripe with digital is just how the ability to buy something is lost when a store shuts down, I really like with physical things are still in circulation and can be bought second-hand.

 

My ultimate goal is to drop the hoarding mentality altogether, and buy games when I want to play them. I'll figure out how it can be accomplished when it's time to play it, and if it can't be I'll move on to something else.

 

I have an already too long list of 'last games to get physical' because there are already orders through LRG, using Best Buy certs, or through those Target sales so I'll still be riding those out but my hope is to stick more strictly to a "beat 6 games, can buy 1" rule-set for myself to get through my massive pile of games more. I'm finding that delaying the tracking down of a game when I'm ready for it instead of constantly trying to work through an everything list to have it all on hand isn't as scary as I thought.

 

Restrictions don't make sense if you don't want them though, if you like getting things on sale and having a lot of options or a collection then that's great too. It's a really personal, different for everyone type of question.



#36430 scorponok   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   81 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

scorponok

Posted 28 January 2023 - 03:54 PM

Touken Ranbu Warriors Switch $39.99 amazon.  This is sold out at bestbuy and gamestop, gamestop has a crazy pre-owned price for some reason.



#36431 nitrosmob   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   11444 Posts   Joined 16.7 Years Ago  

Posted 28 January 2023 - 05:13 PM

I do say to myself when I'm buying a game digital or physical, does it look like I'll play it in a few months to a year or so. If it's a super niche game, I may buy it on release and play it a little down the road. Sometimes I get tempted by new releases especially since I play many Steam demos during the fests (one is coming up in February I believe) and when those games come out I may take chances on them. This also helps with Steam's generous refund policy, so if I don't like the game in an hour I'll refund.

 

I like BoxPizzaBox like variety and tend to play multiple genres although some like Sports I'll rarely play. I will get some games if they're on my wish list somewhere if they're like a $1.50 or something. If something doesn't grip me around that range, I'll likely only get it from cheap bundles. I choose to play many things digitally otherwise I would miss out on my many visual novels, great digital only games like Picross, and extremely cheap prices at times.

 

I do prefer physical for niche games though especially since if I beat them quickly I can likely sell it for something still unless it's ancient and cheap or just fell a lot in price like Monark. Plenty of these games even after falling low around the $15-$25 range still do go up when they go out of print, or are just hard to find.

 

The bottom line is play games physically and digitally. You miss out on many especially niche releases that way. AAA is extremely stagnant for me nowadays other than a few heavy hitters. Just my opinions of course.



#36432 bappt   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1072 Posts   Joined 17.7 Years Ago  

Posted 29 January 2023 - 05:16 AM

Sisters VS Sisters isn't another spinoff? I haven't really checked into this one yet, been used to the last few games in the series not being of much interest.

It's a real Neptunia game that takes place after VII. The goddesses go to help out the PC continent, while they're gone Nepgear and friends find a hidden lab and get thrown into a stasis pod thing, awakening to a world where cell phones took over and monster attacks are keeping people inside. Also Neptune didn't return from the PC continent so Planeptune fell without a goddess. There's a different battle system but the story constantly refers back to earlier games. 

 

Unfortunately the initial Japanese announcement called it a "Orthodox Spin-off" which was all the western audience needed to see to write it off. The Japanese term is used in media to refer to canon works in a larger franchise. The best anime example I can come up with is A Certain Scientific Railgun with it's plot running alongside A Certain Magical Index or all the Star Wars media created post-Disney acquisition.



#36433 Souffrir   Eternally Training CAG CAGiversary!   6479 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 29 January 2023 - 07:54 AM

I'm not shy about being a Sonic fan, and I'm not shy about my opinion that (other than, potentially, Sonic Mania, which is still in my backlog) there hasn't been a good Sonic game since Sonic & Knuckles, so you may have seen me espousing that opinion here before.

 

Still, I'd heard some people say that maybe most Sonic games past that point weren't very good, but I should check out the Sonic Advance series, or the Sonic Rush series. I bounced off Advance on an emulator probably about a decade ago, but went back to it last year and beat it. It was... okay. It was a significant step down from the Genesis games, but it wasn't a bad game, per se. I went on to Sonic Advance 2, which I found to be significantly less fun than Advance, but I played it for a while before bouncing off. I then moved on to Advance 3, and bounced off almost immediately due to the obtuse hub and probably being a little sick of the series by that point.

 

I recently modded my 3DS, and while loading some DS games onto it last week, figured I'd go back and give Rush a shot. Just got around to trying it, and the first couple levels were so mindless, and the first boss was so obnoxious, that I immediately powered my 3DS down, loaded my SD card onto my computer, and deleted the ROM. I literally had a better experience with Sonic 06. (Granted, that was mostly due to playing it with other people, but I feel like the point stands—at least 06 was entertainingly bad, this was just so mediocre I actively felt like I was wasting my time.)



#36434 bappt   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   1072 Posts   Joined 17.7 Years Ago  

Posted 29 January 2023 - 11:49 PM

Pretty much everything DS Sonic (Rush, Rush Adventure, Colors, Generations) was just a slightly modified Rush until Lost World, when they actually made a 3D game. Sonic Generations even gave Classic Sonic a homing attack when it reached the Dreamcast Era after they didn't have a 2D level to base stages off of. That's a whole range of games to avoid if you didn't like the playstyle. 



#36435 TheKbob   FakeyBro™, Esq. CAGiversary!   2261 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2023 - 01:31 PM

I heavily curate my physical collection and still have north of 500 titles across 16 platforms.  I don't collect anything with a cartridge save handhelds and Switch because hooking them up to modern TVs while looking good takes extra special hardware investments and storing carts is crazy.  More so when I can get a nice retro device that can play them nearly accurately for a song.
 

The Steam Deck is going to push more games digitally into my hands, since stuff I would normally thing "that's a Switch game" is now "that's a Steam Deck game."  LRG has a tough time selling me stuff; $4 for a Steam game or $40 for a Switch version 3 years from now. 

 

My physical wishlist is less than 20, including some high dollars acquisitions (Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, Solatorobo...), but my Steam wishlist is nearing 700, mostly unreleased stuff I just watch.

So I think my days of seeking out physical stuff is nearly ending, but its still fun to hunt and see things I've never seen before.  Sometimes I just find a too good to be true deal and pass the savings on to someone looking for whatever I find.  That's fun.



#36436 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   25173 Posts   Joined 18.6 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2023 - 03:09 PM

I heavily curate my physical collection and still have north of 500 titles across 16 platforms.  I don't collect anything with a cartridge save handhelds and Switch because hooking them up to modern TVs while looking good takes extra special hardware investments and storing carts is crazy.  More so when I can get a nice retro device that can play them nearly accurately for a song.
 

 

I tried doing that and ended up buying more games.... LOL



#36437 Mattiful-Joe   Henshin A Go-Go Baby! CAGiversary!   3676 Posts   Joined 19.5 Years Ago  

Mattiful-Joe

Posted 30 January 2023 - 03:18 PM

I heavily curate my physical collection and still have north of 500 titles across 16 platforms. I don't collect anything with a cartridge save handhelds and Switch because hooking them up to modern TVs while looking good takes extra special hardware investments and storing carts is crazy. More so when I can get a nice retro device that can play them nearly accurately for a song.

The Steam Deck is going to push more games digitally into my hands, since stuff I would normally thing "that's a Switch game" is now "that's a Steam Deck game." LRG has a tough time selling me stuff; $4 for a Steam game or $40 for a Switch version 3 years from now.

My physical wishlist is less than 20, including some high dollars acquisitions (Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, Solatorobo...), but my Steam wishlist is nearing 700, mostly unreleased stuff I just watch.

So I think my days of seeking out physical stuff is nearly ending, but its still fun to hunt and see things I've never seen before. Sometimes I just find a too good to be true deal and pass the savings on to someone looking for whatever I find. That's fun.


I kept telling myself I'll get around to curating my collection, but at this point, I've just placed that on the perpetual backburner. In the interim, I'll usually pick up a game here/there if I want to play it and it reaches a reasonable sale price. Can't justify buying games at full price anymore ... unless it's a so-called limited print run (though I think I'm generally done with those, too) or an import (but even then, seldom at msrp).

Like you, I also sense my physical game buying days are numbered. I can see myself buying far fewer games this current gen given the way publishers are handling releases (i.e., critically unfinished games or material dlc content, or just the usual holding back content to sell as microtransactions). I don't think we'll see nearly as many publishers bothering with GOTY/complete editions, either. It's what the consumer trajectory has been for quite some time so none of this comes as a surprise. Selfishly, I can't say I mind it all that much in that it means I'll stop spending money on games, and maybe make an actual dent on the games gathering dust in my collection.

#36438 Vigilante   poyo CAGiversary!   38939 Posts   Joined 17.6 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2023 - 05:43 PM



#36439 consoleman   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   581 Posts   Joined 17.9 Years Ago  

consoleman

Posted 30 January 2023 - 06:07 PM

As a gamer who has been gaming since the earliest days of home videogames, I realize that while I still have a love of gaming, the fire I had to buy and play every high-profile game is gone for me. Unlike movies (and I collect those too) where I can enjoy one in an hour and a half or two hours, there just aren't enough hours in the day to really commit to playing a game through like in my younger days. When I realize how many games I have that I barely played through because it could not keep my interest or because I couldn't beat it because my reflexes and mind are dwindling due to age, I can compare it to watching a movie and never seeing it to the end. Glad to see my son can commit to playing a game through for 2 weeks to a month so we actually buy far fewer games than we used to from even a few year ago where I used to buy every game I even have the slightest interest in when it drops in price. I'm tired of adding to a backlog I will never get to. As an older gamer, I keep going back to my older games that I played when I was young that gave me so much enjoyment while my son's interest are only in the newest games.

Nowadays, I'm buying only games we're committed to playing through and I'm committed to buying games physically although it ticks me off to no end knowing the full content of so many physical games are not on the disk(s) and requires downloads. I'm tired of remasters being brought over to every new generation of consoles but is more partial to remakes although I find it sad that game publishers often don't make new games with stories and gameplay as riveting as their older counterparts.

#36440 TheKbob   FakeyBro™, Esq. CAGiversary!   2261 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2023 - 09:45 PM

Rhapsody II & III got announced, western release.   Rad.

 

And you can buy Disgaea 7, too.  Maybe rad?

 

I won't be pre-ordering either since NIS pissed me off with breaking every single Prinny Presents release with a game ending bug on each cart.

I'll get them on PC on sale. To tie it with the previous conversation, no point in owning a physical product if its broken without patches!



#36441 nightc1   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   4372 Posts   Joined 17.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 January 2023 - 10:20 PM

Oh that's kind of cool Rhapsody II & III are coming west.  I didn't even know they existed since I don't follow japanese only releases for the genre.

 

Unlike movies (and I collect those too) where I can enjoy one in an hour and a half or two hours

I stopped collecting most movies.  I will on rare occasions buy something but for the most part I'm happy seeing something in streaming for one watch and be happy and move on.  The main exceptions are the occasional marvel movies and star wars... though even Marvel I stopped buying them since it's easier to just have Disney+.   In the end I don't re-watch movies that much outside of the certain classics and even those it's more like every 5 to 10 years.
 



#36442 keyblader1985   Wait, what? CAGiversary!   4389 Posts   Joined 10.1 Years Ago  

keyblader1985

Posted 30 January 2023 - 10:41 PM

Rhapsody II & III got announced, western release. Rad.

And you can buy Disgaea 7, too. Maybe rad?

I won't be pre-ordering either since NIS pissed me off with breaking every single Prinny Presents release with a game ending bug on each cart.

I'll get them on PC on sale. To tie it with the previous conversation, no point in owning a physical product if its broken without patches!

That sums it up. I'm hype for the games themselves, but I am beyond wary of NISA at this point.

#36443 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   25173 Posts   Joined 18.6 Years Ago  

Posted 31 January 2023 - 12:51 AM

I too had no idea these was a sequel to Rhapsody... much less two of them. 

 

I too am also over NISA, seems like most of their releases have some major bigs/issues and their CEs suck. 



#36444 Souffrir   Eternally Training CAG CAGiversary!   6479 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 31 January 2023 - 01:38 AM

Rhapsody II & III got announced, western release. Rad.

And you can buy Disgaea 7, too. Maybe rad?

I won't be pre-ordering either since NIS pissed me off with breaking every single Prinny Presents release with a game ending bug on each cart.

I'll get them on PC on sale. To tie it with the previous conversation, no point in owning a physical product if its broken without patches!

PS5/Switch/PC only. Not rad.

#36445 Squarehard   Nyaa~ CAGiversary!   21403 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 31 January 2023 - 01:41 AM

Made more space again for Switch. Looking way into the future. XD

 



#36446 Souffrir   Eternally Training CAG CAGiversary!   6479 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 31 January 2023 - 01:44 AM

I too had no idea these was a sequel to Rhapsody... much less two of them.

I too am also over NISA, seems like most of their releases have some major bigs/issues and their CEs suck.


There are actually three (I think), not including spin-offs like Marl Jong.

I say I think because the last sequel is a PSP-exclusive RPG about which essentially zero information is available on the English-speaking web. It seems to ditch some of the elements of the earlier games, but a Japanese-language longplay I looked up a while back includes story references to the previous games and musically-themed gameplay, so probably? It’s called Antiphona no Seikahime: Tenshi no Gakufu Op.A.

#36447 consoleman   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   581 Posts   Joined 17.9 Years Ago  

consoleman

Posted 31 January 2023 - 04:08 AM

Oh that's kind of cool Rhapsody II & III are coming west. I didn't even know they existed since I don't follow japanese only releases for the genre.

I stopped collecting most movies. I will on rare occasions buy something but for the most part I'm happy seeing something in streaming for one watch and be happy and move on. The main exceptions are the occasional marvel movies and star wars... though even Marvel I stopped buying them since it's easier to just have Disney+. In the end I don't re-watch movies that much outside of the certain classics and even those it's more like every 5 to 10 years.

I agree with you. With so many ways to watch movies and shows nowadays, I realize there's so few I would want to watch over and over again thus there's so few I need to actually own. Funny but I have the same exceptions as you with Marvel and Star Wars but I also have Pixar on the list although the newest titles of all 3 haven't been so good lately. I collect DC too though I don't rewatch so many of their movies given how depressing and overly serious so many of their movies are. Long for the old days of Superman movies with Christopher Reeve in it and wish they would have stuck with that formula where heroes were heroes when making superhero movies.

It's been far easier cutting back on buying videos than it's been with games. With videos, like you said, you can watch something once and be done with it but with games, at least it is for me, I want to take my time to play it through and feel like I actually own the game to play even it's years and years from now never to be taken away. None of that Gamepass stuff for me which is trying to make gaming subscription-based where you end up renting but never owning anything. Anyway, whether it's video streaming or Gamepass, things can disappear so it's always better to own it physically if it's a title you really like.

#36448 Squarehard   Nyaa~ CAGiversary!   21403 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 31 January 2023 - 06:01 AM

Oh that's kind of cool Rhapsody II & III are coming west.  I didn't even know they existed since I don't follow japanese only releases for the genre.

I feel like Switch has really been great for reviving/porting a lot of games that were just thought of as gone. While Vita sorta did that a bit, the Switch has really been a much greater movement regarding this aspect, which is great to see.
 



#36449 ǝ˥ǝuoʌ   CAG in Training CAGiversary!   342 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

ǝ˥ǝuoʌ

Posted 01 February 2023 - 03:18 PM

Just received notification from Amazon that my order of Witch of the Holy Night for the Switch just shipped and will arrive on Sunday. I also ordered the PS4 copy but that haven't shipped yet.



#36450 BoxPizzaBox   Trash Tier CAGiversary!   1558 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

BoxPizzaBox

Posted 01 February 2023 - 03:50 PM

If you have any interest in Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey on Xbox (there are other games, but those are probably the most relevant to this thread), they're being delisted soon.

 

https://www.silicone...360-marketplace