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#21301 nagpo  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:41 PM

This makes me REALLY freaking glad he's not working on the DMC series anymore as many GOW fans will tell you that they hate the direction that series is headed.

 

Tell me Kamiya, how is it "novel" to replace ones identity and copy other gaming trends, especially from other genres like the Last of Us (which is what GOW is doing)? It makes no sense, DMC is already novel, it basically created its own genre, there is nothing else like it. The fact that he doesn't understand that makes me realize that he simply doesn't get what makes DMC great and well liked and I'm glad he's not working on the series and itsuno is.

 

/end rant.



#21302 nagpo  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:43 PM

 

Detective Pikachu is coming out in march and it seems to also be a physical release. Also has giant amiibo



#21303 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5566 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:41 PM

Yesterday XSeed posted a teaser tweet that they updated their banner logo to include three silhouetted games. From left to right, it looks like the three games are English Detective Mysteria (Otome VN), Senran Kagura: Burst Re:Newal (Remake) and Ys: Memories of Celceta. First game is probably Vita and maybe a PC port? Second is PS4 and at some point it will likely have a PC port as well. Last is probably a PC port.

 

These were kinda teased back in December, but only one was really properly guessed to my knowledge. All should line up with official art from those games.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Now I just want to know who's getting Cold Steel III. If it's XSeed, we won't likely hear about it anytime soon. If it's NISA, then we'll likely hear about it relatively soon and I'll proceed to cry myself to sleep for a good week or so.



#21304 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36526 Posts   Joined 12.9 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:12 PM

Now I just want to know who's getting Cold Steel III. If it's XSeed, we won't likely hear about it anytime soon. If it's NISA, then we'll likely hear about it relatively soon and I'll proceed to cry myself to sleep for a good week or so.

My hope is this: If Falcom learned anything from the Ys VIII fiasco, it's that they should have stuck with XSeed, or at the very least, think twice before using NISA again.



#21305 Olengie   Your Waifu is Kuso. Except Mine CAGiversary!   10997 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:31 PM

This wouldnt had been a problem if fking NISA actually did quality control and proofread their shit before release.

#21306 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6283 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:33 PM

This wouldnt had been a problem if fking NISA actually did quality control and proofread their shit before release.

This^

 

EDIT: They probably spend most of their free time and money censoring games, instead of actually doing what is mentioned above. 



#21307 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5566 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:41 PM

Yeah, NISA's quality control is absolutely horrendous. Both on the translation side and on the programming side. How they always end up introducing bugs during a localization and then almost never fix them is beyond me.

 

My hope is this: If Falcom learned anything from the Ys VIII fiasco, it's that they should have stuck with XSeed, or at the very least, think twice before using NISA again.

One can only hope that's the case. Japan has a weird forgiveness culture that's quite a bit different than ours, so I could potentially see them getting a second chance. I honestly don't think they'll get the Trails series with how interlinked all the games are and Falcom understands this, but every time mistranslated articles pop up I feel the need to remind myself of that. I could see them getting the next Ys or a different Falcom title quite easily though.

 

It was pretty amusing hearing about some of the voice actors for the Cold Steel games writing an informal letter/petition to Falcom saying that if anybody other than XSeed gets the Trails series, they will not reprise their roles. This was in response to Ys VIII as well.



#21308 AugustAPC   Not For Sale CAGiversary!   3466 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:02 PM

The Nintendo Direct was cool. Favorite part is, easily, the SNK Heroines game. Always down for more fighters.

The Wii U library of exclusives is whittling down. I would really like to see ports of Xenoblade 1 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions without the censorship. That would be a nice acknowledgement and apology one of their many mistakes last gen.



#21309 Olengie   Your Waifu is Kuso. Except Mine CAGiversary!   10997 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:24 PM

it would have been funny if they announced a Switch Port of Star Fox Zero instead of an actual, legitimate sequel



#21310 Richard Kain   The Kaiser CAGiversary!   2536 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

Richard Kain

Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:32 PM

it would have been funny if they announced a Switch Port of Star Fox Zero

 

Star Fox Zero relied too heavily on the dual-screen support for it's control scheme, and that control scheme was not optional. It wouldn't actually work on the Switch, the core game would have to be redesigned, and would have to toss out most of the dual-screen gameplay. I imagine most fans would be fine with that, as that was what most everyone complained about with the game.

 

I think a new Star Fox game would be a better idea for the Switch, even if they ended up re-using a lot of assets from Star Fox Zero.



#21311 Olengie   Your Waifu is Kuso. Except Mine CAGiversary!   10997 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:35 PM

Star Fox Zero relied too heavily on the dual-screen support for it's control scheme, and that control scheme was not optional. It wouldn't actually work on the Switch, the core game would have to be redesigned, and would have to toss out most of the dual-screen gameplay. I imagine most fans would be fine with that, as that was what most everyone complained about with the game.

 

I think a new Star Fox game would be a better idea for the Switch, even if they ended up re-using a lot of assets from Star Fox Zero.

I was being sarcastic. 

 

Nintendo choosing to do a Switch Port of Zero instead of an actual new Star Fox game? Absurd. But Nintendo can surprise and make questionable decisions. 



#21312 elessar123  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:43 PM

Yeah, NISA's quality control is absolutely horrendous. Both on the translation side and on the programming side. How they always end up introducing bugs during a localization and then almost never fix them is beyond me.

I'm still bitter about Ar Tonelico 2 and Witch and the Hundred Knight. The latter especially, since they released the PS4 version with almost the same collectibles, but refused to patch the PS3 version.



#21313 dsman3717   Saber is Life CAGiversary!   630 Posts   Joined 5.3 Years Ago  

dsman3717

Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:56 PM

Star Fox Zero was decent, but could have been much better.

 

I just want Star Fox Assault 2 (Don't hate me)



#21314 sovereignNX-73811   THINKS HE CAN TAKE the whole Ardanian Army CAGiversary!   5688 Posts   Joined 4.0 Years Ago  

sovereignNX-73811

Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:28 PM

Yesterday XSeed posted a teaser tweet that they updated their banner logo to include three silhouetted games. From left to right, it looks like the three games are English Detective Mysteria (Otome VN), Senran Kagura: Burst Re:Newal (Remake) and Ys: Memories of Celceta. First game is probably Vita and maybe a PC port? Second is PS4 and at some point it will likely have a PC port as well. Last is probably a PC port.

 

These were kinda teased back in December, but only one was really properly guessed to my knowledge. All should line up with official art from those games.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Now I just want to know who's getting Cold Steel III. If it's XSeed, we won't likely hear about it anytime soon. If it's NISA, then we'll likely hear about it relatively soon and I'll proceed to cry myself to sleep for a good week or so.

I was wondering what became of the Ys: Memories of Celceta hint that Xseed tweeted about like...two years ago. Was the first Falcom game I played and finished and introduced me to...well all things Falcom. 

 

My hope is this: If Falcom learned anything from the Ys VIII fiasco, it's that they should have stuck with XSeed, or at the very least, think twice before using NISA again.

This wouldnt had been a problem if fking NISA actually did quality control and proofread their shit before release.

Well I gotta say, NISA is bad but Aksys wasn't a whole lot better. I do wonder who was worse...

 

If Aksys and NISA are off the list that pretty much leaves Atlus/Sega or Bamco (which kinda messed up the prior three Legend of Heroes games before the Kiseki arc, so I have heard). I wonder how Sega or Atlus would handle a Falcom game...

 

Maybe just Atlus; Sega tends to hate its own fans going off by what they did to Sonic and 2017's lackluster Valkyria Revolution. I'm still like, "Really Sega?" when I think about how the Future Tone DX version basically has a couple of new songs on a disc...if the game's even on that disc.

Spoiler
 

It was pretty amusing hearing about some of the voice actors for the Cold Steel games writing an informal letter/petition to Falcom saying that if anybody other than XSeed gets the Trails series, they will not reprise their roles. This was in response to Ys VIII as well.

Did that really happen? I'm not in the Discord group for the Falcom fandom and apparently it seemed to kind of fade away. The rumor seemed to get the fanbase split up all over the place irrc reading some tweeters. 

 

Xseed's been rather quiet and I believe certain active projects are coming to a close? Zwei Arges Adventure is out in a couple of weeks. I'm sure Cold Steel II is going to be out soon...wouldn't be surprised if it comes out by early February. 

 

I wonder if there's sorta a monkey wrench in the works though...that is the "Kai" version of Cold Steel I and II. How's Xseed going to handle that on PS4? Personally I'd actually like them to add the additional lines to the "remaster" version. Heck if there are higher res textures I'd love to see those added to retroactively added to the PC version...oh the dreams that I have that typically don't come true! 

 

Hmm...there's some sort of a stream from Xseed today. Wonder if they'll drop a bombshell announcement tonight. Should make a bet with Drakeon a bottle of that FFXV Orange soda that they will.

 

But meanwhile I have a long way to go on Xenoblade 2...did I ever mention that I LOVE the music?



#21315 AugustAPC   Not For Sale CAGiversary!   3466 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:20 PM

it would have been funny if they announced a Switch Port of Star Fox Zero instead of an actual, legitimate sequel

I would honestly love that. That game was ruined by the control scheme. I'd fuckin love to play it with normal controls.



#21316 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5566 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:26 PM

Did that really happen? I'm not in the Discord group for the Falcom fandom and apparently it seemed to kind of fade away. The rumor seemed to get the fanbase split up all over the place irrc reading some tweeters.

Yes. Sean Chiplock posted a link to it in the official Falcom discord channel I think or it was the Trails Discord. It wasn't up for very long and it was asked to be taken down and all links removed from the Discord an hour or two after posting. While I don't visit the discord channel, I did manage to procure the link and read it with the official signatures. I believe I mentioned it here previously around that time but purposely did not link to it. I mentioned some of the people who signed it and what characters they played. Off the top of my hand I only remember the voice actors who did Rean and Fie/Alfin.

Now whether or not it was actually sent, I have no idea. I know Sean started getting a lot bigger work as a voice actor after Cold Steel as he's relatively newer to the industry. Plus he interacts a lot with the Trails community and is always willing to quickly do short lines in the characters voice for kicks. He seems to have a lot of respect for XSeed, so I could see him not reprising his role.

 

As for the whole fandom split, I'm not sure what you're talking about. A good deal of them were NeoGAF members and when the recent fiasco happened, they all moved over to ResetEra. During this time I think a secondary invite only discord channel was created. I could probably join it if I asked, but eh, I'm not that worried about it. All the important information still surfaces in the usual places I get my info from regarding Trails/Falcom.
 

Xseed's been rather quiet and I believe certain active projects are coming to a close? Zwei Arges Adventure is out in a couple of weeks. I'm sure Cold Steel II is going to be out soon...wouldn't be surprised if it comes out by early February.


With XSeed's PC releases, they have some of the worst marketing ever. They announce its release two weeks before it actually releases and mentioned it on their twitter and facebook pages. That's it. Nothing else. I'm not even sure they use an official press release for it, just announce it on their twitter/facebook pages and send out one newsletter related to it.
 
Half the time it feels like they don't even say they're working on a PC release for a game and the first time anybody hears of it is two weeks prior.
 

I wonder if there's sorta a monkey wrench in the works though...that is the "Kai" version of Cold Steel I and II. How's Xseed going to handle that on PS4? Personally I'd actually like them to add the additional lines to the "remaster" version. Heck if there are higher res textures I'd love to see those added to retroactively added to the PC version...oh the dreams that I have that typically don't come true!

The fast forward the PS4 port will have is not the same as the PC version, so just a heads up there. As for the voice acting, the Japanese version will not include new voice overs. Since XSeed doesn't do any programming for their console games to my knowledge, I don't expect Falcom to port it with extra voice hooks just for the English port. I fully expect the port to be localized though.

 

If there are higher resolution textures with the PS4 version, XSeed typically will add them to the PC versions of the games.

 

By the way, voice actors in Japan are quite expensive with ridiculous contracts much like their music industry. Falcom often uses big name voice actors that cost a lot of money. It's speculated that it's what caused voice lines to be cut in the base game for Rean because he's apparently pretty big/expensive. Which is also why they're not adding in new lines for the PS4 port in Japan.
 

Hmm...there's some sort of a stream from Xseed today. Wonder if they'll drop a bombshell announcement tonight. Should make a bet with Drakeon a bottle of that FFXV Orange soda that they will.

I'm not expecting anything remotely bombshell worthy from them anytime soon. I wouldn't be surprised if they show off Zwei though. It starts in roughly ten minutes but I don't really ever bother watching their streams.



#21317 Squarehard   Nyaa~ CAGiversary!   20801 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:20 AM

So many walls of text in here.

 

Did Trump fulfill his promise?



#21318 ar4757   Makoto x Joker is canon CAGiversary!   860 Posts   Joined 4.0 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:32 AM

So many walls of text in here.

 

Did Trump fulfill his promise?

ikr, the walls of text just got 10 feet higher

 

 

Funny at work yesterday I randomly saw reference to Miku

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#21319 nitrosmob   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   8669 Posts   Joined 12.0 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:33 AM

Finally Sorcery Jokers All Ages Steam released today. Currently on sale for $35.99. Adult patch available on Mangagamer.com. Also available on Mangagamer 18+ for the same price. 

 

Steam

 

Mangagamer (NSFW)



#21320 Nothing371   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   7001 Posts   Joined 6.8 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 01:03 AM

With XSeed's PC releases, they have some of the worst marketing ever. They announce its release two weeks before it actually releases and mentioned it on their twitter and facebook pages. That's it. Nothing else. I'm not even sure they use an official press release for it, just announce it on their twitter/facebook pages and send out one newsletter related to it.
 
Half the time it feels like they don't even say they're working on a PC release for a game and the first time anybody hears of it is two weeks prior.

This simply has to be a calculated decision.  Every company employs some kind of marketing or social media people.  They must figure that they get more sales based on surprise reveals and the subsequent week 1 hype purchasing than actually marketing something in the traditional way. 

 

I think it has something to do with that you have to close the sale immediately, or else you're going to miss out because people won't pull the trigger.  Kind of like a mattress salesman or the TV informercials "call within the next 20 minutes or miss this price".   It's backwards thinking, I know.  But these niche games are entirely different beasts from their brethren.  If people don't buy new PC games right away, they wait for a humble bundle or the giant slashing discounts. 



#21321 Supplice   Hi-Fi CAGiversary!   4666 Posts   Joined 8.6 Years Ago  

Supplice

Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:14 AM

The Seven Deadly Sins Gets New Trailer Showing Adventure Mode and Familiar Scenes

Spoiler

 

Nintendo France Boss on Why They Don’t Pursue 4K/VR: ‘If We Do The Same as Others, We Are Doomed To Die’

 

SEGA Drops a Curious Teaser for Incoming Announcement Next Week

 

Dissidia Final Fantasy NT Open Beta Begins

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Monster Hunter: World adds Kirin

 

BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle launches June 5 in North America; adds DLC character Blake Belladonna

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#21322 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5566 Posts   Joined 12.5 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:49 AM

This simply has to be a calculated decision.  Every company employs some kind of marketing or social media people.  They must figure that they get more sales based on surprise reveals and the subsequent week 1 hype purchasing than actually marketing something in the traditional way. 

 

I think it has something to do with that you have to close the sale immediately, or else you're going to miss out because people won't pull the trigger.  Kind of like a mattress salesman or the TV informercials "call within the next 20 minutes or miss this price".   It's backwards thinking, I know.  But these niche games are entirely different beasts from their brethren.  If people don't buy new PC games right away, they wait for a humble bundle or the giant slashing discounts. 

They've actually come out and said that they know their marketing is woefully lacking. Granted that's mostly in threads on places like the Falcom subreddit or the Falcom threads in NeoGAF/ResetEra. The main issue with what you're describing is that only the core fans tend to find out that the game is released and not much beyond that. So numbers are rather low, which may or may not improve to good levels.

 

Games like mainline Senran Kagura games sell decently well on Steam though. It's mostly just the ones with less name recognition like Xanadu NEXT and Zwei that have serious issues. I don't necessarily think they need traditional marketing, but they do need a way to get their game out there so people actually see it. Like using youtubers/streamers and giving reviewers plenty of time to review while setting a specific date within a week of release to post reviews.



#21323 The Dead Texan   Rest in Peace, Big Rizzle CAGiversary!   3685 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  

The Dead Texan

Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:29 PM

 

I'm not too excited about this game after finding out there's 20 fucking DLC characters. 

 

I downloaded the DBZ beta client. Hope it works when it's up tonight. 



#21324 JCAll   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1884 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 01:43 PM

Star Fox Zero was decent, but could have been much better.

 

I just want Star Fox Assault 2 (Don't hate me)

I'm still waiting for Star Fox Adventures 2.



#21325 nagpo  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:26 PM

I'm still waiting for Star Fox Adventures 2.

Yeah, and I'm still waiting for Rareware to return.



#21326 elessar123  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 05:01 PM

Yeah, and I'm still waiting for Rareware to return.

I'm still waiting for the Return of the King. My first vaporware. I'm never going find out what happened that thing party =(

#21327 BMXJouster   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1272 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 05:31 PM

I'm not too excited about this game after finding out there's 20 fucking DLC characters.

 

Yup.  A 20 character roster with 20 planned DLC characters is just fucking ridiculous.

 

I'm passing on this until they release a complete bundle at some point.



#21328 Olengie   Your Waifu is Kuso. Except Mine CAGiversary!   10997 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:17 PM

Yup.  A 20 character roster with 20 planned DLC characters is just fucking ridiculous.

 

I'm passing on this until they release a complete bundle at some point.

The game is pretty much Cross Tag Battle ft. RWBY. You think they would have more RWBY characters, but nope. LOL

 

The 20 Character DLC announcement lost my sale. Unless they plan on having a DLC model where you can earn the characters like in SFV, I'm just going to skip this game for now until they announce the inevitable "Complete" release.

 

Knowing them, each DLC pack will have a character from BB, UNIL, and Persona, meaning you have to buy it if you want all the characters from one series.



#21329 lakers714  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:40 PM

Way to totally kill a game for me, game is months away from releasing and announce 20 DLC Characters already that is the same amount that it's launching with, I also heard that in EVO 2018 that all the DLC Chracters will be playable already in a build for it 



#21330 Olengie   Your Waifu is Kuso. Except Mine CAGiversary!   10997 Posts   Joined 6.0 Years Ago  

Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:41 PM

Way to totally kill a game for me, game is months away from releasing and announce 20 DLC Characters already that is the same amount that it's launching with, I also heard that in EVO 2018 that all the DLC Chracters will be playable already in a build for it 

The demo will have all 20 Base Characters during the event. Makes you think that they can add in all 20 DLC characters before the May release date in Japan if they wanted to. But choose not to because "extra monies". Which is total bs for the customer.