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#27481 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   4536 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:30 PM

I absolutely hate the fact whole VC franchise revolves around the scout capture flag mechanic (especially late game invincible scouts). But hey, how else would a tiny country like Galia win over the imperials lol?

Through knowledge of the terrain/home field advantage, access to supplies vs the enemy needing supply routes and of course having special technology. It's feasible they could win against a large powerful enemy.  The writers just suck at doing their jobs.  

 

There's also allying with other countries as another option but those usually come with large costs.



#27482 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   4536 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:44 PM

I always thought scouts being OP past a certain level was a bug. So if you want to play by exploiting it and saying it's bad, then that's partially on you.

 

I don't remember any issues with hit detection though?

 

Edit: Googling mostly confirms it? People are complaing about VC4's bad hit detection compared to VC1's.

Scouts being over powered wasn't a bug and I have no idea how you would leap to such an unfounded conclusion.  Three scouts came with rng abilities that gave them another free turn at the end of their turn irrc.  This coupled with orders allowed them to charge through maps with little to no issue and reach the flag in the first game.  It was poor balancing plain as day.  After a certain point your machine gunners can take out tanks making the lancers a useless class when their niche against tanks was already the only thing they were supposed to be good for.

 

I think because of the way it plays like a hybrid, people have expectations that maybe aren't in line with the actual gameplay and systems. I agree that many times it looks like your shots really should be hitting, but this is an RPG; one needs to remember that each shot is essentially a dice roll, and your perfectly aimed headshot doesn't guarantee anything. 

While I agree there are times where enemies just drop to the ground but I have prettymuch never seen the reverse happen.  It also kills suspension of disbelief and becomes meme worthy when enemies can be shot with a gun to the back of their heads and still dodge.  As a hybrid it does everything wrong mixing parts that don't go together and come off as idiotic.

 

My secondary issue besides dodging and invisible hit boxes on railings walls ect blocking shots would be the weird physics the games use.  I can throw a grenade as an example and it will bounce under the tank.  Or the death tank maps where you use lancers and such to try and knock the rocks down and a rocket launcher will miss.  

 

 

I've heard that before too and am not sure what people are complaining about.  Unless they are raging when they shoot a sniper round too close to a fence and it gets lost to an invisible wall.  I mean it's not a fps so people complaining about hit detection sound like they just wish it was one.

 

In vc4 scouts are squishy, often frustrated by grenadier interception fire, and have relatively bad weapons for most of the game.  Their AP advantage is no longer as large due to a shocktrooper buff.  Scouts still can be OP but mainly through an abuse of one of three things:  Defense^ orders, direct command + double movement potential, and a certain minor-spoiler weapon gained at the end of the valkyria dlc.

Already mentioned above but yeah the weird hit boxes where I can shoot an enemy on a bridge and the railing on the bridge I am standing ons invisible hit boxes block the shot from me despite my gun being above it.  But when the enemy fires back at me all the bullets land.  Its inconsistent shit like that which is the issue.



#27483 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   4536 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:48 PM

Some things that could help te vc franchise would be a stats window like in fire emblem and other rpgs when you are attacking an enemy.  To show how much damage, hit rate ect.  Second would be showing your movement radius.  Another thing found in most srpgs.  Last would be enemy radius highlighting options for their movement, attack range and maybe show their sight lines so you can use stealth if you choose to.



#27484 Covnam   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1255 Posts   Joined 14.1 Years Ago  

Posted 16 January 2019 - 09:12 PM

Only major issue I had with VC4 was that they kept the ranking based on turns passed. It was a poor choice in the first game and seeing that by the 4th it was still the same was a real disappointment.

Besides that, nothing really impacted my enjoyment of the game



#27485 itzd4n   Dank Lean CAGiversary!   1026 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

Posted 16 January 2019 - 09:18 PM

for someone who hates the game/series so much, you sure seem to have played a lot of it..

 

I enjoy the series in general, not that it doesn't have its faults, but I found it to be an enjoyable experience.  Thankfully, so do many others.



#27486 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   40066 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 16 January 2019 - 09:30 PM

Valkyria Chronicles is a great series.

Thanks Sega

#27487 elessar123  

Posted 16 January 2019 - 10:46 PM

Scouts being over powered wasn't a bug and I have no idea how you would leap to such an unfounded conclusion.  Three scouts came with rng abilities that gave them another free turn at the end of their turn irrc.  This coupled with orders allowed them to charge through maps with little to no issue and reach the flag in the first game.  It was poor balancing plain as day.  After a certain point your machine gunners can take out tanks making the lancers a useless class when their niche against tanks was already the only thing they were supposed to be good for.

I was refering to their grenade damage. They're scouts; they're supposed to excel at movement. Not do insane damage.



#27488 Dead_Batteries   Voltaic Pile CAGiversary!   1089 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

Dead_Batteries

Posted 17 January 2019 - 05:51 AM

Off-topic, but is anybody going to the Fate Grand Tour in LA? I just bought my ticket and the movie is supposed to premiere on the 23rd.

https://fate-go.us/tour2019/

#27489 aerozero   The man from nowhere CAGiversary!   1016 Posts   Joined 12.1 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:00 AM

Off-topic, but is anybody going to the Fate Grand Tour in LA? I just bought my ticket and the movie is supposed to premiere on the 23rd.

https://fate-go.us/tour2019/

 

I'm going to the movie for sure, but I dunno about the Fate Grand Tour yet. None of my friends are into the Fate franchise, and I dunno if I want to go to the Grand Tour and stand in long lines by myself haha.



#27490 EdJericho   2.5D Seiyuu Fanboy CAGiversary!   822 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:30 AM

New - Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom Collector's Edition - $79.99 / $63.99 GCU

 

Valkyria Chronicles is a great series.

Thanks Sega

And thank you Sega for Skies of Arcadia too.



#27491 The Dead Texan   Rest in Peace, Big Rizzle CAGiversary!   3801 Posts   Joined 10.2 Years Ago  

The Dead Texan

Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:31 AM

Off-topic, but is anybody going to the Fate Grand Tour in LA? I just bought my ticket and the movie is supposed to premiere on the 23rd.

https://fate-go.us/tour2019/

$45? For what? Are they at least giving you an SSR for attending this? 



#27492 DarthPwner  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 02:26 PM

NISA Store Preorder Trails of Cold Steel III: Thor's Academy Edition



#27493 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5695 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 02:33 PM

 

Fuck you NISA. You translate terribly, can't fix damn near any bugs and can't port to the PC worth a damn. I hope you rot in the deepest reaches of hell. I had some extremely annoying life shit happen yesterday and now this bullshit.

 

I wonder if Brittany was hired by NISA. That would soften the blow of the translation at the very least. Seems like Sean is still voicing Rean, which he was one who had previous said he wouldn't work with NISA if they got the Trails series. I wonder what happened.

 

Amazing that they misspelled the hashtag on the announcement tweet. They're off to a good start already.

 

EDIT: They deleted the tweet and posted a new one with the correct hashtag.



#27494 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36927 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 02:39 PM

Fuck you NISA. You translate terribly, can't fix damn near any bugs and can't port to the PC worth a damn. I hope you rot in the deepest reaches of hell. I had some extremely annoying life shit happen yesterday and now this bullshit.

 

I wonder if Brittany was hired by NISA. That would soften the blow of the translation at the very least. Seems like Sean is still voicing Rean, which he was one who had previous said he wouldn't work with NISA if they got the Trails series. I wonder what happened.

I have no idea where this guy found the quote and whether it would include Brittany, but:

 

 

A comment of some kind from XSeed or Sean would be much appreciated.



#27495 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5695 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 02:50 PM

I have no idea where this guy found the quote and whether it would include Brittany, but:

 

A comment of some kind from XSeed or Sean would be much appreciated.

I think there's a panel or something tomorrow that I believe will address this.

 

Chavez who just recently said she was returning to translating and was the original translator for the Trails series before Brittany started working on the Trails series. I don't mind that person either, but Chavez era quality I feel is slightly less than what it was once Brittany became lead editor for the series. Regardless, both are better than any other at NISA as I believe they'd actually put forth an effort as well as keep up with the consistency between the games.

 

So I guess I hope Chavez is translating and or Brittany is are editing. Then all that's left is to pray that NISA doesn't introduce bugs and they don't Fuck up the inevitable PC port and hire Durante to do it. That is the only way to soothe my anger at this announcement. Even then I'm still angry because it really sucks to see XSeed lose another series they've build up a fan base for only for them to get them stolen from them after they've busted their asses working on the series.

 

EDIT: Signs currently pointing that Varion is translating and Jessica Chavez is editing. It wouldn't be a bad combo. For some reason I thought Chavez was a translator rather than an editor.



#27496 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36927 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 03:15 PM

I think there's a panel or something tomorrow that I believe will address this.

 

Chavez who just recently said she was returning to translating and was the original translator for the Trails series before Brittany started working on the Trails series. I don't mind that person either, but Chavez era quality I feel is slightly less than what it was once Brittany became lead editor for the series. Regardless, both are better than any other at NISA as I believe they'd actually put forth an effort as well as keep up with the consistency between the games.

 

So I guess I hope Chavez is translating and Brittany is editing? Then all that's left is to pray that NISA doesn't introduce bugs and they don't Fuck up the inevitable PC port and hire Durante to do it. That is the only way to soothe my anger at this announcement. Even then I'm still angry because it really sucks to see XSeed lose series they've build up a fan base for only for them to get them stolen from them after they've busted their asses working on the series.

That quote came from RPG Site: https://www.rpgsite....r-playstation-4

 

We recently had the opportunity to visit NIS America's offices in LA, where we got the chance to get a look at some of their upcoming games - including a brief teaser for Trails of Cold Steel III. While more information regarding the localization will be revealed during the company's PAX South panel on Friday, we were told that players should expect news regarding who will be helming the title's translation, with an emphasis on NISA bringing aboard talent that already has experience with the series, to "help contextualize, translate and localize the title".
I'm now cautiously optimistic.

#27497 Draekon   Kung-Fu Panda CAGiversary!   5695 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 03:52 PM

I guess I should get this off my chest to help relieve a little stress. Been trying to decide when to mention it even though I decided this a month ago but didn't want to bring it up around Christmas or New Years.

 

Anyways, I won't be returning to posting weekly releases or Tuesday releases. I won't go into specific detail, but I was in very bad shape in November and I think the biggest contributing factor was the stress of everything I have to deal with. I've recovered since then, but it was seriously bad to the point where I was almost completely incapacitated from the pain and lack of appetite. As a result I'm lightening my load as much as possible. So always make sure to take care of your mind and body because the force your mind can exert on your body is absolutely ridiculous as I've seen first hand.

 

Like I've mentioned before I'll still read and post here but since I'm not doing the weekly posts. I typically don't say a whole lot to begin with as I've grown tired of drama on the internet over the decades I've been using it and thus tend to try and avoid it. So I'll still be here, but less frequent and will try to reply if someone says my name. Though you can always PM me here or contact me through Steam. PS4 is also possible as well and uses the same ID as the forum here, but I mostly use it for Netflix/Amazon Video and don't always resign-in when the PSN messaging app logs me out.



#27498 hostyl1   Rejoice commoners! CAGiversary!   2905 Posts   Joined 13.3 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 03:55 PM

Self care is important! Be well Draekon.



#27499 gospelman   Irreducibly Complex CAGiversary!   1616 Posts   Joined 9.6 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 04:13 PM

I'm happy to finally be getting it this year.  is this version exclusive to the nisa store?



#27500 FlawlesslyFatal   $15 or less CAGiversary!   1394 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  

FlawlesslyFatal

Posted 17 January 2019 - 04:19 PM

I'm happy to finally be getting it this year. is this version exclusive to the nisa store?

Very likely

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#27501 cloudmd23   Tojo Clan Member CAGiversary!   200 Posts   Joined 10.4 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 04:22 PM

I guess I should get this off my chest to help relieve a little stress. Been trying to decide when to mention it even though I decided this a month ago but didn't want to bring it up around Christmas or New Years.

 

Anyways, I won't be returning to posting weekly releases or Tuesday releases. I won't go into specific detail, but I was in very bad shape in November and I think the biggest contributing factor was the stress of everything I have to deal with. I've recovered since then, but it was seriously bad to the point where I was almost completely incapacitated from the pain and lack of appetite. As a result I'm lightening my load as much as possible. So always make sure to take care of your mind and body because the force your mind can exert on your body is absolutely ridiculous as I've seen first hand.

 

Like I've mentioned before I'll still read and post here but since I'm not doing the weekly posts. I typically don't say a whole lot to begin with as I've grown tired of drama on the internet over the decades I've been using it and thus tend to try and avoid it. So I'll still be here, but less frequent and will try to reply if someone says my name. Though you can always PM me here or contact me through Steam. PS4 is also possible as well and uses the same ID as the forum here, but I mostly use it for Netflix/Amazon Video and don't always resign-in when the PSN messaging app logs me out.

Sorry to hear things have been rough. Take good care of yourself.



#27502 Jurai  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 04:25 PM

gonna stay cautiously optimistic, hope NISA doesn't screw the pooch



#27503 itzd4n   Dank Lean CAGiversary!   1026 Posts   Joined 8.7 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 04:37 PM

Be good Draekon.

 

Put a preorder in for ToCS since I managed to accumulate $20 of points and don't see myself ordering much more from them in the future.  Surprised I had this much since I only buy one or two things a year.



#27504 Gershomcz  

Gershomcz

Posted 17 January 2019 - 05:27 PM

Off-topic, but is anybody going to the Fate Grand Tour in LA? I just bought my ticket and the movie is supposed to premiere on the 23rd.

https://fate-go.us/tour2019/

 

I bought my ticket for the tour and will buy my ticket for the movie when it goes live.



#27505 elessar123  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

Fuck you NISA. You translate terribly, can't fix damn near any bugs

Pretty much my biggest gripe. I didn't realize til recently how many games I've played of theirs where there's some major game breaking bug that they refused to patch. It's one reason I never bought Witch and the Hundred Knights 2 or the remaster. Fix your original shit before you release more.

 

Along with XSEED Aksys doing so much otome, and Atlus being bought by Sega, my enthusiasm for the niche Japanese game companies died down a lot.



#27506 Souffrir   Eternally Training CAG CAGiversary!   4274 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:20 PM

Pretty much my biggest gripe. I didn't realize til recently how many games I've played of theirs where there's some major game breaking bug that they refused to patch. It's one reason I never bought Witch and the Hundred Knights 2 or the remaster. Fix your original shit before you release more.

Along with XSEED doing so much otome, and Atlus being bought by Sega, my enthusiasm for the niche Japanese game companies died down a lot.


What’s wrong with SEGA? From what I’ve been able to tell, they’ve been more hands off with Atlus than Index ever was, and have been more encouraging of Atlus to take their time and do niche stuff, too. Not to mention they’ve got their own niche stuff that’s generally pretty highly considered. I mean, yeah, Sonic continues to be a train wreck despite upswings like Sonic Mania, but you just kinda expect that.

#27507 Vigilante   The Deal Is Already Dead CAGiversary!   36927 Posts   Joined 13.5 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:24 PM

Pretty much my biggest gripe. I didn't realize til recently how many games I've played of theirs where there's some major game breaking bug that they refused to patch. It's one reason I never bought Witch and the Hundred Knights 2 or the remaster. Fix your original shit before you release more.

 

Along with XSEED doing so much otome, and Atlus being bought by Sega, my enthusiasm for the niche Japanese game companies died down a lot.

Do you mean Aksys Games? The only otome game Xseed did recently was London Detective Mysteria.



#27508 elessar123  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:25 PM

What’s wrong with SEGA? From what I’ve been able to tell, they’ve been more hands off with Atlus than Index ever was, and have been more encouraging of Atlus to take their time and do niche stuff, too. Not to mention they’ve got their own niche stuff that’s generally pretty highly considered. I mean, yeah, Sonic continues to be a train wreck despite upswings like Sonic Mania, but you just kinda expect that.

Nothing in regards to the main first party Atlus titles like SMT and EO, but there's a lot less outside of those nowadays.

 

 

Do you mean Aksys Games? The only otome game Xseed did recently was London Detective Mysteria.

Oops, yes.



#27509 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4817 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:32 PM

Nothing in regards to the main first party Atlus titles like SMT and EO, but there's a lot less outside of those nowadays.

 

 

Oops, yes.

Agreed. Atlus doesn't seem to be the publishing force that they used to be--instead mainly focusing on their own titles. 



#27510 elessar123  

Posted 17 January 2019 - 06:35 PM

Just look at Atlus's 5 year period from 2008-2013, and 2013-2018. In the Sega period, there's literally only 1 game that isn't a remaster/SMT/EO, and it's Tokyo Mirage. The period before that? About 20.