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#27541 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4817 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:56 PM

Nice. We'll get a good translation and a shit PC version. I'd still much, much rather see Xseed get this, as then the translation and  PC versions would be all but guaranteed to be winners. 



#27542 ARsignal11   Pirate King CAGiversary!   636 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:05 PM

Nice. We'll get a good translation and a shit PC version. I'd still much, much rather see Xseed get this, as then the translation and  PC versions would be all but guaranteed to be winners. 

Didn't Xseed recently let go of a bunch of their translator staff? I don't know if we can assume going forward that the translations coming from them will be of similar quality as of past games.



#27543 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4817 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:10 PM

Didn't Xseed recently let go of a bunch of their translator staff? I don't know if we can assume going forward that the translations coming from them will be of similar quality as of past games.

Maybe because NISA keeps stealing all of their projects! lmao.

 

In all seriousness, though, I was not aware of that. I hope that doesn't adversely affect them. 



#27544 Tothoro  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:59 PM

Maybe because NISA keeps stealing all of their projects! lmao.

 

In all seriousness, though, I was not aware of that. I hope that doesn't adversely affect them. 

Brittany was one of the folks that left, I guess this might be why?



#27545 62t   Zune Duck! CAGiversary!   19939 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 09:17 PM

Brittany was one of the folks that left, I guess this might be why?

Brittany was fired



#27546 62t   Zune Duck! CAGiversary!   19939 Posts   Joined 14.4 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 09:18 PM

Xseed also just hired Atlus's Lead Editor

 

 

Jessica is back from maternal leave

 



#27547 Tothoro  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 10:02 PM

Brittany was fired

Oh wow, wasn't aware of that. Guess all isn't well at XSEED.



#27548 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   7996 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 10:13 PM

Nice. We'll get a good translation and a shit PC version. I'd still much, much rather see Xseed get this, as then the translation and  PC versions would be all but guaranteed to be winners. 

PC ports are an afterthought; a job done just to make money easily.   I speak in regards to high profile JP games that have been released on Steam recently.  It has been a concern of mine for awhile in the realm of PC gaming.   These days, most cross-platform stuff is never developed with PC as a leading platform.  Many games are fps locked at whatever they run on console, and then performance is even worse because of porting bugs and issues.   

 

Master racers (like over in the Steam thread) are in complete denial of the shortcomings of their (only) preferred platform.  They'd rather play a shitty botched job on PC then play a game on it's leading platform, that performs the best and is accessed the most conveniently.  They don't buy anything either, so all their opinions run completely hollow regardless.   They just bitch and complain about perceived slights.



#27549 lakers714  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 10:56 PM

PC ports are an afterthought; a job done just to make money easily.   I speak in regards to high profile JP games that have been released on Steam recently.  It has been a concern of mine for awhile in the realm of PC gaming.   These days, most cross-platform stuff is never developed with PC as a leading platform.  Many games are fps locked at whatever they run on console, and then performance is even worse because of porting bugs and issues.   

 

Master racers (like over in the Steam thread) are in complete denial of the shortcomings of their (only) preferred platform.  They'd rather play a shitty botched job on PC then play a game on it's leading platform, that performs the best and is accessed the most conveniently.  They don't buy anything either, so all their opinions run completely hollow regardless.   They just bitch and complain about perceived slights.

I mean this rings true with "some" JRPGS and from Japanese Studios but what other games run much more worse or are terrible experiences on PC than consoles? 



#27550 shadowysea07   Cjenvy I'm ready for you awd this time I'm wearing pants CAGiversary!   4536 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

shadowysea07

Posted 18 January 2019 - 11:07 PM

I would like to point out 60 wasn't the norm for cold steel 1 & 2  both of those were around 40 or so at release with the special versions being 10$ more iirc but they were ps3 games.



#27551 lilman   Only the ordinary. CAGiversary!   4081 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 11:24 PM

Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet Complete Edition released today. $70 on PSN: https://store.playst...AOFBCOMPLETE000

 

Since no store has listed it, seems it will be digital only. If you want to go somewhat physical, physical base game is $20, season pass is $25, new/final dlc is $20, so $65 total. If you want cheapest price overall, probably best to wait for a sale on the digital complete edition.

 

Free SAO:FB CE dynamic theme: https://store.playst...H00000000000005



#27552 dragonx   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   38 Posts   Joined 14.3 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 11:32 PM

Grand Kingdom on clearance at Best Buy for $17.99.



#27553 lutz   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   1330 Posts   Joined 13.4 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 11:36 PM

PC ports are an afterthought; a job done just to make money easily.   I speak in regards to high profile JP games that have been released on Steam recently.  It has been a concern of mine for awhile in the realm of PC gaming.   These days, most cross-platform stuff is never developed with PC as a leading platform.  Many games are fps locked at whatever they run on console, and then performance is even worse because of porting bugs and issues.   

 

Master racers (like over in the Steam thread) are in complete denial of the shortcomings of their (only) preferred platform.  They'd rather play a shitty botched job on PC then play a game on it's leading platform, that performs the best and is accessed the most conveniently.  They don't buy anything either, so all their opinions run completely hollow regardless.   They just bitch and complain about perceived slights.

 

While I have a similar view, I do think the tides are turning though. I'm always disappointed in a shoddy port, and the developer taking forever to fix a critical error and/or never fixing it. Once Valve make a better effort to mandate developers to at least have a non broken (technically speaking, not gameplay) games, I think PC ports will actually become the norm (ie: consoles will be the ports).

 

Ultimately, I do see Steam and Switch being the champions of JRPG, Anime, Niche, Retro, Indie, ect next gen. With Sony going full SJW and religious on their censorship, and the Japanese refusing to accept the Microsoft brand, we can only hope for the best...



#27554 Rai Rai   Lookin' in all the right places CAGiversary!   14974 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 18 January 2019 - 11:45 PM

PC ports are an afterthought; a job done just to make money easily.   I speak in regards to high profile JP games that have been released on Steam recently.  It has been a concern of mine for awhile in the realm of PC gaming.   These days, most cross-platform stuff is never developed with PC as a leading platform.  Many games are fps locked at whatever they run on console, and then performance is even worse because of porting bugs and issues.   

 

Master racers (like over in the Steam thread) are in complete denial of the shortcomings of their (only) preferred platform.  They'd rather play a shitty botched job on PC then play a game on it's leading platform, that performs the best and is accessed the most conveniently.  They don't buy anything either, so all their opinions run completely hollow regardless.   They just bitch and complain about perceived slights.

Whew, it takes a special kind of stupid to believe this. Either you do the world's best parody of a child with a vendetta against a platform or actually believe what you say. Either way, bravo, I got a good laugh out of it. If you keep this up I might have just found my new favorite toy to play with while working.



#27555 spoderman  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 12:02 AM

PC ports for JP games have gotten better over the years if anything, with the exception being NISA and KOEI ports. Tales of Vesperia, Dragon Quest XI, and Ni No Kuni II are all really good ports, with Dragon Quest and Ni No Kuni being superior on PC. Even some lower profile stuff I think is better on PC, like Sword Art Online Fatal Bullet is better on PC because it's easier to play with keyboard/mouse IMO. I guess what I'm saying is that it'll depend on the publisher how much effort they're going to put into a port, and sometimes it's just a crapshoot. Sega has been making decent ports lately (Bayonetta and Vanquish are good examples), but Catherine sucks balls right now. I'm expecting them to fix most of the issues though.

 

From someone that's actually buying these ports.. they've been getting better overall, not worse. I agree some games are bug ridden and nearly unplayable on release.. which applied to the Secret of Mana remake and Chrono Trigger. They eventually did patch up Secret of Mana, and Chrono Trigger had most of the issues fixed from what I've heard. The only high profile Square Enix release I can think of that was never fixed was Nier. It's rare for any big publisher to not give a shit and leave a game broken, aside from the two I listed (NISA/KOEI)



#27556 denpanosekai  

denpanosekai

Posted 19 January 2019 - 12:14 AM

Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet Complete Edition released today. $70 on PSN: https://store.playst...AOFBCOMPLETE000

 

Since no store has listed it, seems it will be digital only. If you want to go somewhat physical, physical base game is $20, season pass is $25, new/final dlc is $20, so $65 total. If you want cheapest price overall, probably best to wait for a sale on the digital complete edition.

 

Free SAO:FB CE dynamic theme: https://store.playst...H00000000000005

Play-Asia had a listing for the PS4 Asian edition but it's gone today?!?! Weird.



#27557 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   7996 Posts   Joined 7.5 Years Ago  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 12:35 AM

Whew, it takes a special kind of stupid to believe this. Either you do the world's best parody of a child with a vendetta against a platform or actually believe what you say. Either way, bravo, I got a good laugh out of it. If you keep this up I might have just found my new favorite toy to play with while working.

See these PC assclowns are everywhere.  They suffer from insecurity issues and some sort of inferiority complex.  Ignored

 

I just built a brand new gaming rig btw.  (It's probably nicer than yours)

 

 

I mean this rings true with "some" JRPGS and from Japanese Studios but what other games run much more worse or are terrible experiences on PC than consoles? 

I'm speaking mainly about a couple of high profile games from recent years which I was interested in purchasing that ran worse on PC like Nioh, Nier, and Monster Hunter World.  Sometimes they get fixed, sometimes they don't.  But in the case of MH:W it's depressing to think about how it comes out 7 months after the initial console version, it releases for $59.99 while the console version is being widely discounted, and yet it was still riddled in bugs.  That kind of ecosystem can put a bad taste in your mouth.  It eventually had fixes but then there are games like Nioh which were never really fixed.  There are countless examples.  You find them in Steam reviews, articles are posted in publications, and people post about them on forums.

 

Also I did not say that games on PC were terrible.   I said that ports of JP games are often shoddy and that many of them perform better on console.  The bottom line is that these games are not developed with PC as their leading platform, so therefore they perform worse on PC, and have worse comparative purchasing value to non-bias consumers.



#27558 Rai Rai   Lookin' in all the right places CAGiversary!   14974 Posts   Joined 13.6 Years Ago  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:05 AM

See these PC assclowns are everywhere.  They suffer from insecurity issues and some sort of inferiority complex.  Ignored

 

I just built a brand new gaming rig btw.  (It's probably nicer than yours)

Unf, keep going, nothing I love more than seeing someone getting riled up and tossing some sass my way.



#27559 roger watersmelon   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   2819 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  

roger watersmelon

Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:08 AM

Search -> Forum -> "PC + sucks"
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Gasp!
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(Feel free to swap out "PC" with "PS4," "Xbox," "Switch," or "Roger Watersmelon")

#27560 whoknows   Time and Eternity for all of time and eternity CAGiversary!   40066 Posts   Joined 14.6 Years Ago  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:15 AM

Unf, keep going, nothing I love more than seeing someone getting riled up and tossing some sass my way.

 

As long as there's love. 

 

Search -> Forum -> "PC + sucks"
...
Gasp!
ktpng.gif

(Feel free to swap out "PC" with "PS4," "Xbox," "Switch," or "Roger Watersmelon")

But no need to swap with Vita, since no one sasses Vita.



#27561 lakers714  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:15 AM

I'm speaking mainly about a couple of high profile games from recent years which I was interested in purchasing that ran worse on PC like Nioh, Nier, and Monster Hunter World.  Sometimes they get fixed, sometimes they don't.  But in the case of MH:W it's depressing to think about how it comes out 7 months after the initial console version, it releases for $59.99 while the console version is being widely discounted, and yet it was still riddled in bugs.  That kind of ecosystem can put a bad taste in your mouth.  It eventually had fixes but then there are games like Nioh which were never really fixed.  There are countless examples.  You find them in Steam reviews, articles are posted in publications, and people post about them on forums.

 

Also I did not say that games on PC were terrible.   I said that ports of JP games are often shoddy and that many of them perform better on console.  The bottom line is that these games are not developed with PC as their leading platform, so therefore they perform worse on PC, and have worse comparative value to non-bias consumers.

Ehh that's just the par with Japanese Developers especially this last gen with them bringing more of their titles to PC since all consoles are pretty much use the same PC based architecture, most of these games coming out to PC 5+ Years ago had no shot ever coming there except with the Major ones. The price vs consoles is whole other topic when comparing retail to only digital storefronts. Of course it shitty when these games are terrible ports and even at the same price or more expensive but most times than not you get a potential better performance with it being a decent port or fixes to it's counterparts. I game on both so I have no horse in this 



#27562 spoderman  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:29 AM

I thought the Nioh PC port was supposed to be really good? Like the only good KOEI port



#27563 Zaku77   \m/ CAGiversary!   4817 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 04:20 AM

Monster Hunter World on PC is more demanding than it really needs to be and did have some bugs--especially with connections. Those have really all been ironed out at this point, though--and mostly were not long after release. And, while one must throw a fair amount of hardware at it, my 1440p ~90FPS 120 hours with it have been completely incomparable to the console versions. A general rule of thumb for PC games is to wait a month or two for drivers and patches to fix things up and improve the experience. It's an annoying trend, but MH basically followed how Western AAA games are, too. If you want the objectively better experience, you just have to wait a minute for it sometimes. Thankfully, we all have hundreds to thousands of other games to make that wait much easier haha. 

 

I did Nier Automata on PC, and the widely used mod pretty much fixed everything up, but it's nonsense that I needed to do that for a game published by SE. I can't speak to Nioh. I won't touch a TK/KT PC port with a 10 ft pole. Japanese PC ports are starting to get better, as the publishers start to see that there is a market for it (hell, compare Dark Souls 1 to 2 or 3, as that's a massive difference). I really hope that this trend continues and that we continue to see improvements in the future.



#27564 nitrosmob   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   9152 Posts   Joined 12.6 Years Ago  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:07 AM

PC is master race for eroge and always will be very likely. I know I will choose to play on there versus console a good percent of the time.

 

Speaking of eroge....time for VN news!

 

The Harachuchu translation was released by Loe Quality Translations. It's about a vampire that bites a guy and vampires need s*x so he needs to turn other people into vampires as well for those reasons. Honestly these games by the publisher Swaneye are generally fun enough, though I'm sure there will be some pregnancy stuff or something. That's in all their games.

 

VNDB (NSFW)

 

I also forgot last time to say that Boku to Nurse no Kenshuu Nisshi was translated. This one is about a guy doing his residency and he meets his old friend Mio, who is a nurse. He breaks his arm helping her somehow and she mentions that she should take care of him, since his residency was put on hold. He agrees and a love story between an intern and nurse begins. Honestly it could be worse, but I'm sure i'll play it since it's pretty short.

 

VNDB (NSFW)

 
One last reminder that next friday Hello, Goodbye comes out from NekoNyan. I believe it's banned from Steam and has a discount and you get the soundtrack for pre-ordering. It looks very good, and I will be buying it.
 


#27565 Souffrir   Eternally Training CAG CAGiversary!   4274 Posts   Joined 6.3 Years Ago  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:19 AM

Grand Kingdom on clearance at Best Buy for $17.99.


How’s the single player on this? I know it was designed around MP, but some MP games are still good alone.

#27566 superxgaga   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   291 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

superxgaga

Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:48 AM

How’s the single player on this? I know it was designed around MP, but some MP games are still good alone.

It's got a decent SP campaign. But the level doesnt scale, so dont over level your team in multiplayer before finishing it.

#27567 Jurai  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 08:51 AM

NISA have cold steel 3 posters at their pax booth if you pre-order, also have $5 coupons for their online store

#27568 denpanosekai  

denpanosekai

Posted 19 January 2019 - 02:30 PM

NISA have cold steel 3 posters at their pax booth if you pre-order, also have $5 coupons for their online store

Still can't believe shipping to Canada for CS3 CE is 65$ USD



#27569 chrislaustin   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6926 Posts   Joined 13.2 Years Ago  

chrislaustin

Posted 19 January 2019 - 03:19 PM

Still can't believe shipping to Canada for CS3 CE is 65$ USD

They probably calculate "international" shipping the same way I do, and that's by having a flat rate to all involved. It sucks for Canadians, as it is probably the cheapest place to ship outside of the US, but is still considered international. I normally have potential buyers from Canada ask why my shipping is so high, and I explain and tell them it's often cheaper, I just don't have the time to set up shipping per countries. So if and when they buy something, I'll refund them the difference which sometimes can be close to half, especially for something costing $65 going someplace else(it would probably be in the 35-40 range).



#27570 Jurai  

Posted 19 January 2019 - 04:17 PM

They probably calculate "international" shipping the same way I do, and that's by having a flat rate to all involved. It sucks for Canadians, as it is probably the cheapest place to ship outside of the US, but is still considered international. I normally have potential buyers from Canada ask why my shipping is so high, and I explain and tell them it's often cheaper, I just don't have the time to set up shipping per countries. So if and when they buy something, I'll refund them the difference which sometimes can be close to half, especially for something costing $65 going someplace else(it would probably be in the 35-40 range).


How do you deal with duties do you just put it on them